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What do you do for side cash? (1 Viewer)

Cool - I notice it depends on the sport - how prevalent Club pay is

At least around here.
It's very cool and I love doing it but it costs me most of my free time as well as gas money.  I dialed back my coaching of mens teams while my son is playing.  Too many crappy coaches over here and I don't trust most of them with my kid.  Every coach at his club now has played for me at some point.  Developing a good base and continuity moving forward.  Several of our players double license with clubs playing in the highest leagues.

 
belljr said:
For Town, Club or School?

Town I don't agree with

Club - I could see but don't agree with it

School - Yes
Curious on your rationale. You get what you pay for, so no pay Is more likely to lead to poor coaching. There are absolutely exceptions, but I'd rather have to pay more to register knowing it goes to potentially better coaching. 

 
Johnny Rock said:
It’s like a dollar an hour! 

I generally grow soybeans now. We used to sell produce to area grocery stores which provided a greater gross but was backbreaking. 
I figured all of this but the thought of this has always appealed to me! If I could come up with something that could make some good $ I would probably give it a shot. 

 
Bull Dozier said:
If this is real, how did you get into this?
Yes, I've been doing it for, I think, 8 years? When I started, I just walked into the radio station that carried our local high school and spoke with the manager. Told him I would like to broadcast games, but would be willing to carry gear or get coffee or whatever to get started. He said I'd be on the air to start the season. A few years later, that radio station was bought out and went 24-7 right wing radio, so we started our own thing broadcasting online.

https://www.spreaker.com/user/flowerybranchhs

 
Curious on your rationale. You get what you pay for, so no pay Is more likely to lead to poor coaching. There are absolutely exceptions, but I'd rather have to pay more to register knowing it goes to potentially better coaching. 
I'm sure it varies by area, level, etc., but I have found that people coaching youth sports for money to not necessarily be in it for the right reasons.  Very small sample size and not meaning to lay accusations at anyone in this thread.

 
Yes, I've been doing it for, I think, 8 years? When I started, I just walked into the radio station that carried our local high school and spoke with the manager. Told him I would like to broadcast games, but would be willing to carry gear or get coffee or whatever to get started. He said I'd be on the air to start the season. A few years later, that radio station was bought out and went 24-7 right wing radio, so we started our own thing broadcasting online.

https://www.spreaker.com/user/flowerybranchhs
That's pretty sweet.  That sounds like something that could be a lot of fun if you have a good partner.  Must be a labor of love because I can't imagine online broadcasting is a money making endeavour?

 
Curious on your rationale. You get what you pay for, so no pay Is more likely to lead to poor coaching. There are absolutely exceptions, but I'd rather have to pay more to register knowing it goes to potentially better coaching. 
I coach softball.  The level we play at you can't have a poor coach or the kids won't be competitive.  We don't take any money as it's our way of giving back.  Everyone has coached the game and or played.  I'm sure there are places that pay AND there are definitely programs that are money grabs also.  You can have crappy coaches that are getting paid also.

Most of the people that make it to our club our coaches/parents that started rec then travel and now club and progressed and learned along the way.  You usually coach your kids and move up the age groups with them.   We don't have any daddy ball with coaches who kids are not talented enough to make it.   If that makes sense

Also by us not getting paid.  We also offer a "cheaper" alternative to other teams ;)  but we are still expensive......

ETA: We're in it to make the kids better and learn the game.  That's enough payment for me  :shrug:

 
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my son is in his 1st year playing travel ice hockey and I'm an assistant coach for the team. We dont get paid, but I did hear though the grapevine that the team will pick up some of our travel expenses, so there is some benefit there. 

 
my son is in his 1st year playing travel ice hockey and I'm an assistant coach for the team. We dont get paid, but I did hear though the grapevine that the team will pick up some of our travel expenses, so there is some benefit there. 
We don't have tons of travel expenses yet. But I wouldn't have an issue of something small like this. 

 
That's pretty sweet.  That sounds like something that could be a lot of fun if you have a good partner.  Must be a labor of love because I can't imagine online broadcasting is a money making endeavour?
Nothing to get excited about. Couple hundred bucks for the season. I could make more if I went back to working for local radio, but we have a good thing going.

 
It's very cool and I love doing it but it costs me most of my free time as well as gas money.  I dialed back my coaching of mens teams while my son is playing.  Too many crappy coaches over here and I don't trust most of them with my kid.  Every coach at his club now has played for me at some point.  Developing a good base and continuity moving forward.  Several of our players double license with clubs playing in the highest leagues.
That is cool. I'm jealous. I've coached a bit for money. Most recently high school girls, but coaching in Europe where there's too many crappy coaches would be fun. Is this like teaching English in South Korea? Jobs available? 

 
That is cool. I'm jealous. I've coached a bit for money. Most recently high school girls, but coaching in Europe where there's too many crappy coaches would be fun. Is this like teaching English in South Korea? Jobs available? 
Footy is king here so there aren't a lot of clubs paying too much.  I can't give an opinion on coaches in other countries.  The German system is pretty rigid as far as what they want you teaching the kids and they haven't caught up with the recent evolution of the game, ie pace and space, and how it affects both sides of the floor.  

I made my start coaching HS girls as well and my son's shooting coach stateside actually coaches girls HS.

 
I've had multiple gigs over the years - clean/fix computers (mostly getting malware and viruses off), worked concessions at MN Twins/Vikings/Gophers games, and bartending. I've also moved furniture for a local office move company, traveled around the country to major sporting events to sell licensed apparel and merchandise, and currently I work maintenance at the local golf course (free golf) and provide remote support on Avaya phone systems for both techs I know and local companies. 

I've enjoyed the chance to make a nice bit of extra income for my family and had some pretty great experiences along the way. Some of the gigs have been crazy hours and way too much work, but for the most part they've all been positive experiences.

Oh yeah - when I lived in South Florida I was a part-time roadie for a few years as well at the Florida Panther stadium (BB&T now, I think, but back then it was the National Car Rental Center). The money was only so-so but the free concerts and all-access passes were killer. The only downside was that you had to meet for tear down when the first encore started, so you always missed the end of the concert. Most of the artists were pretty cool, and Eric Clapton in particular took the time to speak to the roadies and other behind the scenes workers and was a very gracious dude.

The majority of my side gigs have actually just been a case of  being in the right place at the right time and saying "yes" when the opportunity presented itself. Simply being open to something new has definitely paid off for me time and time again. 

 
the moops said:
Mostly just to neighbors and friends. Someone will ask me about making a dinig room table, or picnic table, a bowl, etc. Nice thing is that I actually make most of it while I am working my real job - don't tell the boss man :bag:  I have access to cool ### machines and a full on wood/metal/digital shop.

I am not the best maker in the world, by any stretch. Hav too little patience - but I am also probably just a little hard on myself. Few examples of random stuff I have made for peope

Coffee Table

Lego Table (made for my kiddos)

Outdoor low sitting table
Awesome. 

Keep it up 

 
Yes, I've been doing it for, I think, 8 years? When I started, I just walked into the radio station that carried our local high school and spoke with the manager. Told him I would like to broadcast games, but would be willing to carry gear or get coffee or whatever to get started. He said I'd be on the air to start the season. A few years later, that radio station was bought out and went 24-7 right wing radio, so we started our own thing broadcasting online.

https://www.spreaker.com/user/flowerybranchhs
Pretty cool

 
I've had multiple gigs over the years - clean/fix computers (mostly getting malware and viruses off), worked concessions at MN Twins/Vikings/Gophers games, and bartending. I've also moved furniture for a local office move company, traveled around the country to major sporting events to sell licensed apparel and merchandise, and currently I work maintenance at the local golf course (free golf) and provide remote support on Avaya phone systems for both techs I know and local companies. 

I've enjoyed the chance to make a nice bit of extra income for my family and had some pretty great experiences along the way. Some of the gigs have been crazy hours and way too much work, but for the most part they've all been positive experiences.

Oh yeah - when I lived in South Florida I was a part-time roadie for a few years as well at the Florida Panther stadium (BB&T now, I think, but back then it was the National Car Rental Center). The money was only so-so but the free concerts and all-access passes were killer. The only downside was that you had to meet for tear down when the first encore started, so you always missed the end of the concert. Most of the artists were pretty cool, and Eric Clapton in particular took the time to speak to the roadies and other behind the scenes workers and was a very gracious dude.

The majority of my side gigs have actually just been a case of  being in the right place at the right time and saying "yes" when the opportunity presented itself. Simply being open to something new has definitely paid off for me time and time again. 
Nice.

I think id like things like this where the money is the bonus but being at those events is the headline 

 
i've been doing some consulting for a winery in SF who's looking to open a Tasting Room:  forecasting sales, setting up best practices/employee handbook, moving from allocation list to a more traditional wine club, hiring TR Mgr + hourly staff, setting up the new space, etc. hoping it's successful and i can get my name out there to other vintners looking for the same. 

 
Pretty cool
One of the best things was calling 5-6 games featuring Deshaun Watson. He played for our rival (Gainesville), so I called a couple of regular season games, and then when our season was over, I got to call a few of his playoff games. He was the living embodiment of "a man amongst boys." I was beyond pissed when the Browns had him in their laps and traded him away.

ETA: There is a 4* RB that is committed to tOSU for 2019(?) that I'll get to see this year too.

 
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I applaud everyone in here for their ability to make money on the side. I am also extremely shocked at how many people do this, in my family and circle of friends I can think of only a couple of people that do side jobs for extra money on a consistent basis. 

 
glvsav37 said:
not going to lie, it can get to you if you let it. I have stories...parents coming on the ice to try and attack me...parents trying to get into the locker room, etc. No doubt, they are crazy. But IMO, if you are confident in your game and do a better then average job, there is nothing to worry about. They will chirp, but at the end of the day, you did your job. 

Plus, the leagues I work in now, I can blow my whistle and have security remove a parent. I dont work anywhere without league officials and security at every game. Also, you can mostly tune it out. there is glass between you and them unlike basketball where they are a lot closer and everything echos in the gym. 
Gotta be safer than low-level Brazilian soccer.

 
Gotta be safer than low-level Brazilian soccer.
funny you mention that. 

I also reffed men's flag football (thats blood money)  and we were on a field right next to an adult soccer match. The area we were in was pretty Spanish/South American leaning. We hear a commotion that's getting louder and louder and finally got our attention. We look over and we see both teams and all the spectators in a mob with the lone official quickly walking backward trying to defend himself. 

My partner and I run across the field and attempt to get between him and the mob (I know dumb idea but we had to do something). Soon both of our football teams follow and shield the soccer ref until the mob dispersed.  

I swear, if we had not been there, they may have seriously f'ed this guy up. 

 
Bull Dozier said:
Making furniture is one of those things I've considered because theoretically it is something that would fit me personality wise.  However, I would be starting at absolute zero (knowledge and equipment wise) it is quite a barrier to get started.
If you have no knowledge of it why do you think it suits your personality?

 
funny you mention that. 

I also reffed men's flag football (thats blood money)  and we were on a field right next to an adult soccer match. The area we were in was pretty Spanish/South American leaning. We hear a commotion that's getting louder and louder and finally got our attention. We look over and we see both teams and all the spectators in a mob with the lone official quickly walking backward trying to defend himself. 

My partner and I run across the field and attempt to get between him and the mob (I know dumb idea but we had to do something). Soon both of our football teams follow and shield the soccer ref until the mob dispersed.  

I swear, if we had not been there, they may have seriously f'ed this guy up. 
In the future just start running towards them frantically screaming "la migra!!" 

There will be some 40yd dash record breaking numbers going on.

 
Just curious what is funny about this?  Is it because we're footballguys?  We're supposed to be rich and don't need to make some secondary money that's not tied to our main job?
I hypothesize he found the term "side cash" funny... kinda reminiscent of "side piece".

 
If you have no knowledge of it why do you think it suits your personality?
I know/think I know only a couple of things about it.  First, it is something I could do in the privacy of my garage or workshop or whatever.  I love me some solitary time.  Secondly, I believe it is something you need to be patient with as it requires a high level of precision.  If I know what I am doing, the second part works for me.  If I'm trying to figure stuff out that I don't know, patience goes out the window.

 
NCAA football and high school football official.  Good side money if I don't count my expenses.  Next level up is always better.

 
I used to finish basements, remodel kitchens, install tile, build paver patios, and other construction.  I was spending way too much time working and not enough time with my family so I stopped a couple of years ago.  Would love to get back into that work eventually again but it is tough to maintain a good balance between family and work once you start down that road.  Turning down jobs is tough because you don't really know what jobs will be presented in the future.  A better side job would be something done out of the house or something scheduled a few days/month. 

 
I used to finish basements, remodel kitchens, install tile, build paver patios, and other construction.  I was spending way too much time working and not enough time with my family so I stopped a couple of years ago.  Would love to get back into that work eventually again but it is tough to maintain a good balance between family and work once you start down that road.  Turning down jobs is tough because you don't really know what jobs will be presented in the future.  A better side job would be something done out of the house or something scheduled a few days/month. 
If you stopped all together and it didnt hurt your financially. Why wouldnt you be able to select what jobs you wanted and the amount of time you wanted to allocate without fear of passing up on other jobs?

 
Curious on your rationale. You get what you pay for, so no pay Is more likely to lead to poor coaching. There are absolutely exceptions, but I'd rather have to pay more to register knowing it goes to potentially better coaching. 
In youth sports much of the time the "you get what you pay for" situation is false much of the time.  There are generally these types of youth coaches:

  1. Coach because they love the game/kids and want to make a difference
  2. Coach because they want their kid to play all the time and only care about that
  3. Coach because they know the game and do it as a job
  4. Coach because they can make a ton of money if marketed properly


Coaches #3 & #4 get morphed together quite a bit once someone sees how desperate many parents are to get little Johnny to the next level.  They charge a ton of money and even if they know what they are doing they take advantage of parents and it becomes a factory with too many kids that you don't get the necessary attention you think you would get by paying a premium.

Stay away from Coach #2 at all costs.  This only ends badly

Coach #1 is what you want to find.  You will generally get someone that if a coach that will teach life lessons in addition to the game.  Your kid will be much better off in the long run.  Sometimes you will find a Coach #3 that is doing it for the Coach #1 reasons and you can get what you pay for in that case.  I found this to be very few and far between.  In my area I have not found any paid coaches that you "get what you pay for".  They have all been factory type organizations that are trying to sign up as many kids as possible. 

 
If you stopped all together and it didnt hurt your financially. Why wouldnt you be able to select what jobs you wanted and the amount of time you wanted to allocate without fear of passing up on other jobs?
Good point and good question.  Three of us started the construction work.  I stopped when I got a promotion and had an increase in work travel.  The travel has slowed down to the point that I may join in on some jobs in the fall.  It is tough to say no to construction work because you do not know when or if the next job is coming.  I get your point though that we could have said no if we were a little busy assuming that another job would be around the corner.  And, there were always jobs around the corner.  There is a ton of money to be made in that field.   

 
I can't imagine a side job I'd enjoy less.  I volunteer coach which is bad enough.  The parents, at least in basketball, have become unbearable.  It is a PITA enough dealing with them from a coaches perspective.  Having to listen to them for the whole game, complaining and everything else, would not work for me.
I thought the same thing but I have been umping the past couple years on a volunteer basis and coming at from a coaches perspective I have found that I have had zero issues with parents or coaches.  I have missed some calls and been heckled but a smile and a joke seems to diffuse the situation quickly and as long as you don't have a chip on your shoulder I find things go smoothly.  I have never had a real problem in my two years of doing it. 

As a coach I have found the biggest officiating issues come from an official that is already worked up and waiting to have a confrontation.  Those are the situation that always seemed to escalate on the field.  Even if I went to go discuss calmly if they came back without even giving a chance to discuss things would escalate very quickly which would increase the emotions of everyone.  As an ump, I have approached it from the coaches perspective and have always been able to diffuse the situation quickly. 

It's not as bad as you think if you don't take it personally and laugh it off.  It's actually quite fun.

 
Coach because they know the game and do it as a job

Coach because they can make a ton of money if marketed properly
Just to clarify, I'm not referring to these types of coaches.  Ours do it on the side too.  And they don't make much money.  They are there because they love the game and want to develop their kids.  But by compensating them it improves retention, so we have coaches who have been doing it for 5-10+ years with a particular age group instead of relying on a constant rotation of parent volunteers.  I think that experience matters.  Our sports relying on parent volunteers try their best, but you can clearly see that practice is figure it out as you go instead of coming in with a plan that has been evolving for years.  They're crisper, more efficient, productive, and I think it translates to the actual games too.

But maybe we're just lucky to have such a structure around here.  I'm definitely happy I became involved and they want me to stick around.  I won't ever coach, but I may expand to umpiring/reffing sometime in the future.

 
Just to clarify, I'm not referring to these types of coaches.  Ours do it on the side too.  And they don't make much money.  They are there because they love the game and want to develop their kids.  But by compensating them it improves retention, so we have coaches who have been doing it for 5-10+ years with a particular age group instead of relying on a constant rotation of parent volunteers.  I think that experience matters.  Our sports relying on parent volunteers try their best, but you can clearly see that practice is figure it out as you go instead of coming in with a plan that has been evolving for years.  They're crisper, more efficient, productive, and I think it translates to the actual games too.

But maybe we're just lucky to have such a structure around here.  I'm definitely happy I became involved and they want me to stick around.  I won't ever coach, but I may expand to umpiring/reffing sometime in the future.
The original question about paying coaches commented on the "you get what you pay for"  Coaches that get gas money level of compensation are doing it because they want to help.  So that is getting more than what you pay for out of a coach.  I guess the point I was making that paying more generally doesn't equate to better.  Paying some to cover some expenses is one thing and usually is better than just a parent/coach. 

 
I've had multiple gigs over the years - clean/fix computers (mostly getting malware and viruses off), worked concessions at MN Twins/Vikings/Gophers games, and bartending. I've also moved furniture for a local office move company, traveled around the country to major sporting events to sell licensed apparel and merchandise, and currently I work maintenance at the local golf course (free golf) and provide remote support on Avaya phone systems for both techs I know and local companies. 

I've enjoyed the chance to make a nice bit of extra income for my family and had some pretty great experiences along the way. Some of the gigs have been crazy hours and way too much work, but for the most part they've all been positive experiences.

Oh yeah - when I lived in South Florida I was a part-time roadie for a few years as well at the Florida Panther stadium (BB&T now, I think, but back then it was the National Car Rental Center). The money was only so-so but the free concerts and all-access passes were killer. The only downside was that you had to meet for tear down when the first encore started, so you always missed the end of the concert. Most of the artists were pretty cool, and Eric Clapton in particular took the time to speak to the roadies and other behind the scenes workers and was a very gracious dude.

The majority of my side gigs have actually just been a case of  being in the right place at the right time and saying "yes" when the opportunity presented itself. Simply being open to something new has definitely paid off for me time and time again. 
chicks?  groupies?  throw me a bone, anything.

 

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