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Upgrades/DowngradesTargetsStrength of ScheduleMatchupsInjury UpdatesProjectionsNews Blast-what we need to know now.If you do this, and do it better than anyone else....the green will roll in.Do it when expected and do it well! If i'm missing something...let me know!My opinion. Like the hole I have.

 
Some people suggested that advice to them a couple weeks ago. The response was:1. Move the thread to the off topic board so less people see it.2. Move the projections deadline to even later in the week.3. Give smart alleck responses back to those with suggestions.This is my first year subscribing. Haven't seen a deadline hit in 6 weeks. If that, and the attitude of responses from the FBGs, don't improve it will be my last year subscribing.

 
50% out of gratitude, I now pay.I most like the solid data early on in the week to base my WW and trades on.e.g. targets, SOS

 
Some people suggested that advice to them a couple weeks ago. The response was:1. Move the thread to the off topic board so less people see it.2. Move the projections deadline to even later in the week.3. Give smart alleck responses back to those with suggestions.This is my first year subscribing. Haven't seen a deadline hit in 6 weeks. If that, and the attitude of responses from the FBGs, don't improve it will be my last year subscribing.
huh?
 
I don't really understand the purpose of this thread. Aren't we already providing all of this and then some??
I think he's taking issure with the missed deadlines.I think at this juncture you should tow the company line and tell him he can have a refund. It's sounds much nicer than #### off, and it gets the same message across.
 
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It's been obvious for a long time that the owners of FBG's just don't understand the vital importance of meeting strict, regular deadlines.Just accept it. Otherwise, you'll never be satisfied as a subscriber.

 
thats a great way to defend the site you are SELLING TO OTHERS. you guys are making a lot of money, get it right.if you CANT make the deadlines, MOVE THEM.
I asked a simple question. I didn't make any attempt to defend anything as I still don't understand the purpose of this thread.feel free to email me at rudnicki@footballguys.com if you have a problem with me or the site.
 
please be more specific:

what deadlines were missed?
right now, Friday afternoon, October 15th

Offensive Projections - Dodds

Friday Night, October 15th

NFL Injury Report - Dodds

Updated Off Cheatsheets - Dodds

Updated Def Cheatsheets - Norton

Updated Players in the News - Gray ***

it is like this everyweek.

 
I don't really understand the purpose of this thread. Aren't we already providing all of this and then some??
I think he's taking issure with the missed deadlines.I think at this juncture you should tow the company line and tell him he can have a refund. It's sounds much nicer than #### off, and it gets the same message across.
I was being sincere. I was unaware that deadlines have been missed. I know it was a problem earlier in the year, but I thought things had been going much better as of late.Perhaps it would be better to not provide a timeline at all?
 
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please be more specific:

what deadlines were missed?
right now, Friday afternoon, October 15th

Offensive Projections - Dodds

Friday Night, October 15th

NFL Injury Report - Dodds

Updated Off Cheatsheets - Dodds

Updated Def Cheatsheets - Norton

Updated Players in the News - Gray ***

it is like this everyweek.
please keep in mind that Dodds is in the Pacific Time Zone...sometimes I think that people don't really understand the enormous amount of time that goes into the content here. this stuff can't be rushed if you want it to be as good as possible.we're all working on getting things in and posted as quickly as possible, but a few delays are inevitable. quite a few changes will be implemented before next year that should make things go much more smoothly.

 
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please be more specific:what deadlines were missed?
Haven't gotten the projections on time yet this year. But you knew that already despite the games you want to play. I'm sure Bryant really appreciates you telling people to $&$) off.
 
please be more specific:what deadlines were missed?
Haven't gotten the projections on time yet this year. But you knew that already despite the games you want to play. I'm sure Bryant really appreciates you telling people to $&$) off.
huh?where did I say that?am I in the twilight zone?I'm not playing games. If you are unhappy with the deadlines, please send David, Joe, or Clayton an email and I'm sure they'll be happy to discuss the matter with you in more detail. Complaining on the message board really isn't going to help anything, and attacking me certainly isn't going to do anything.
 
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please be more specific:

what deadlines were missed?
right now, Friday afternoon, October 15th

Offensive Projections - Dodds

Friday Night, October 15th

NFL Injury Report - Dodds

Updated Off Cheatsheets - Dodds

Updated Def Cheatsheets - Norton

Updated Players in the News - Gray ***

it is like this everyweek.
please keep in mind that Dodds is in the Pacific Time Zone...sometimes I think that people don't really understand the enormous amount of time that goes into the content here. this stuff can't be rushed if you want it to be as good as possible.we're all working on getting things in and posted as quickly as possible, but a few delays are inevitable. quite a few changes will be implemented before next year that should make things go much more smoothly.
I'm just wondering but how can you have a weekly cheatsheet but no projections? WHat makes up the cheatsheet? (And the time of day doesn't have much to do with missing deadlines within the last few weeks. They have been made for Thrusday afternoons and haven't came out till Friday night/Saturday morning)
 
thats a great way to defend the site you are SELLING TO OTHERS. you guys are making a lot of money, get it right.if you CANT make the deadlines, MOVE THEM.
Why don't you guys start your own site if you know what should be done, when it should be done, and how it should be done. Cry me a river. 100% satisfied customer for two years. Keep up the great work guys. Smart ### response that some of you were looking for.
 
some further suggestions...why not continue the premier faceoffs each week. it could be a place where you tell your reasoning behind your projections.another one, how about a stock-watch type thing..and something that tells us your picks to buy low, sell high.also, a blogger for when you guys are watching the game. no comments, and it would be premium content...just dodds, or someones comments on a game. that would be AWESOME!!!

 
I could be wrong on this, but i think the main reason a lot of people are construing the stuff as late is because most of the subscribers are on EST. That, and everybody has different definitions of morning, afternoon, or night... to some people "afternoon" means 1 minute after 12pm (which i guess is techinically correct), while another person might construe "afternoon" to mean somehwere about 3 o'clock.... maybe if FBGs put up an estimated time (along with PST or EST) the masses might simmer down....Edit: for basic grammar

 
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I could be wrong on this, but i think the main reason a lot of people are construing the stuff as late is because most of the subscribers are on EST.... that and everybody has different definitions of morningin, afternoon, or night... to some people "afternoon" means 1 minute after 12pm (which i guess is techinically correct), while another person might construe "afternoon" to mean somehwere about 3 o'clock.... maybe if FBGs put up an estimated time (along with PST or EST) the masses might simmer down....
Its currently 8:26 PM on the WEST COAST. The projections are late.Furthermore, I think many people would prefer them to be released earlier in the week before they make weekly moves. That was expressed by many in a thread a couple weeks ago that mysteriously got moved to the Free For All board and then deleted.
 
please be more specific:

what deadlines were missed?
right now, Friday afternoon, October 15th

Offensive Projections - Dodds

Friday Night, October 15th

NFL Injury Report - Dodds

Updated Off Cheatsheets - Dodds

Updated Def Cheatsheets - Norton

Updated Players in the News - Gray ***

it is like this everyweek.
please keep in mind that Dodds is in the Pacific Time Zone...sometimes I think that people don't really understand the enormous amount of time that goes into the content here. this stuff can't be rushed if you want it to be as good as possible.
Aaron, that's fine, but just set a later deadline that will be met. I think that's all that people are saying.
 
I could be wrong on this, but i think the main reason a lot of people are construing the stuff as late is because most of the subscribers are on EST.... that and everybody has different definitions of morningin, afternoon, or night... to some people "afternoon" means 1 minute after 12pm (which i guess is techinically correct), while another person might construe "afternoon" to mean somehwere about 3 o'clock.... maybe if FBGs put up an estimated time (along with PST or EST) the masses might simmer down....
Its currently 8:26 PM on the WEST COAST. The projections are late.Furthermore, I think many people would prefer them to be released earlier in the week before they make weekly moves. That was expressed by many in a thread a couple weeks ago that mysteriously got moved to the Free For All board and then deleted.
Now this is just stupid. You paid for a service knowing when the deadlines were. You should expect them to be met. But for them to be moved? :loco:
 
This thread is a joke as are all people that complain about deadlines. This site gives you 5x better info than any other site, free or pay, and it costs TWENTY FREAKING DOLLARS. That's like a dollar a week. If you counted up the number of times you clicked on FBGs and got some good info, or got an email with some good info, from August through December, I guarantee you would be talking about ONE CENT PER CLICK. If not less.So the stuff is a bit late. Jesus Christ. Just relax and it'll be there. These whiners who periodically create these inane threads must all have obsessive compulsive disorder -- nothing else can explain thier paranoia.

 
Aaron, that's fine, but just set a later deadline that will be met. I think that's all that people are saying.
that's great advice...I'm sure Dodds is trying his best, but sometimes delays are inevitable.my sincere apologies that FBG has failed to live up to everybody's expectations.please send an email to Clayton at gray@footballguys.com and let him know your suggestions for improvement.
 
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Aaron, that's fine, but just set a later deadline that will be met. I think that's all that people are saying.
that's great advice...I'm sure Dodds is trying his best, but sometimes delays are inevitable.my sincere apologies that FBG has failed to live up to everybody's expectations.please send an email to Clayton at gray@footballguys.com and let him know your suggestions for improvement.
Dude I can't believe you guys didn't predict Foster's injury. THIS IS BULL####!
 
I could be wrong on this, but i think the main reason a lot of people are construing the stuff as late is because most of the subscribers are on EST.... that and everybody has different definitions of morningin, afternoon, or night... to some people "afternoon" means 1 minute after 12pm (which i guess is techinically correct), while another person might construe "afternoon" to mean somehwere about 3 o'clock.... maybe if FBGs put up an estimated time (along with PST or EST) the masses might simmer down....
Its currently 8:26 PM on the WEST COAST. The projections are late.Furthermore, I think many people would prefer them to be released earlier in the week before they make weekly moves. That was expressed by many in a thread a couple weeks ago that mysteriously got moved to the Free For All board and then deleted.
Now this is just stupid. You paid for a service knowing when the deadlines were. You should expect them to be met. But for them to be moved? :loco:
I think at the beginning of the year they were projecting the Projections for Wednesday or Thursday at the latest. I'm pretty sure that was the schedule last year, as well.I think what we're seeing is disappointment that when there were delays for content that many consider among the most important, the response was to move back the deadline (and still miss it!) rather than reprioritize and delegate work to make sure they can deliver high priority material when people want it and expect it.It's certainly not enough to quit over, but that doesn't mean it isn't frustrating and disappointing.
 
Aaron, that's fine, but just set a later deadline that will be met. I think that's all that people are saying.
that's great advice...I'm sure Dodds is trying his best, but sometimes delays are inevitable.my sincere apologies that FBG has failed to live up to everybody's expectations.please send an email to Clayton at gray@footballguys.com and let him know your suggestions for improvement.
Please tell me Clayton isn't third in the line of succession! If he is I demand $5 of my fee go to security for Joe and Dave
 
Do you guys really set your lineups on Friday night? In most of the leagues I play, the owners demand to have the ability make lineup changes all the way up until kickoff. So I care more about the Saturday cheatsheets & players in the news info, than what's given out on Thursday and Friday. That being the case, I set most of my lineups on late Saturday, and even then, I tweak them depending on info I get on Sunday while listening to pregame. But if you must turn a lineup in on Friday, then I could understand your frustration.

 
Aaron, that's fine, but just set a later deadline that will be met. I think that's all that people are saying.
that's great advice...I'm sure Dodds is trying his best, but sometimes delays are inevitable.my sincere apologies that FBG has failed to live up to everybody's expectations.please send an email to Clayton at gray@footballguys.com and let him know your suggestions for improvement.
Aaron,You and I have both been here for a number of years and I think whats happening now is that people want more out of this site than what its intended for, IMO.I would rather see quality material put out slightly after a deadline* than inaccurate info. I use this site as it should be used...as a tool or reference and not expecting the site to make my decisions for me. If projections are suppose to be out Fri afternoon and they come out Sat morning, who the heck cares? My lineup is due on Sun and as long as I have it in time to make my decisions, I'm good with that.That being said, I think the only way to provide everyting on "deadline" is for Joe and David to hire more full-time guys and less part-time guys as the part-timers have other jobs that actually pay their bills and this is just extra. This isn't an excuse for late content etc but the site has moved from what it used to be (a community/family of football junkies) to what it is now (a business where people look at black & white.Inreference to the asterik above this is a direct quote from the content page:Note 2: Release times are Pacific Time Zones. They are provided as estimates only. Grayed out content has not yet been released.Tracy
 
Sorry, I probably have no business even posting in this thread since I'm not a subscriber, but all times should be in Eastern Standard Time.

 
Sorry, I probably have no business even posting in this thread since I'm not a subscriber, but all times should be in Eastern Standard Time.
why? for one, it isn't even standard time right now, so that would really #### things up. are you unable to differentiate between pacific time and eastern time, or do you just have trouble with subtraction?
 
Note 2: Release times are Pacific Time Zones. They are provided as estimates only. Grayed out content has not yet been released.
:thumbup: estimates are imperfect, and occasionally will need to be changed. It was my impression that things had been going a lot better with regard to deadlines lately, which is why I was so caught off guard by this thread.Regardless, this is nothing new that hasn't already been mentioned a hundred times on the boards. Rest assured that everybody is doing all they can to get things done as quickly and efficiently as possible.I also think you guys are kidding yourselves if you think anybody is more frustrated by things being late than Dodds himself. I believe we'll have some changes in place for next year to lighten the load on him and allow staff members to post their own articles, which should help things run much smoother.Honestly...I have no doubt that those who stick with us as we work this stuff out will be very happy they did as things are only going to get bigger and better around here. FBG has grown substantially in the past couple years...growing pains are normal and to be expected, IMO.BTW, projections have been up for awhile now...sure, they were a little late, but it's not like they got posted Sunday at 11am or anything. A simple polite request to Dodds via email asking to prioritize them and post them earlier in the week would likely be a lot more effective than #####ing on the message boards. Just a friendly piece of advice to everybody who has a complaint.Good luck this week guys.
 
Sorry, I probably have no business even posting in this thread since I'm not a subscriber, but all times should be in Eastern Standard Time.
why? for one, it isn't even standard time right now, so that would really #### things up. are you unable to differentiate between pacific time and eastern time, or do you just have trouble with subtraction?
I personally don't care, because I'm not a subscriber.
 
Sorry, I probably have no business even posting in this thread since I'm not a subscriber, but all times should be in Eastern Standard Time.
why? for one, it isn't even standard time right now, so that would really #### things up. are you unable to differentiate between pacific time and eastern time, or do you just have trouble with subtraction?
I personally don't care, because I'm not a subscriber.
east coast bias
 
If you want a full refund. No problem. Just send an email to gray@footballguys.com or bryant@footballguys.com.At a point like this, I don't know what else to say. Yes, you want something by a specific deadline. It wasn't (and hasn't) been on time. You've made your point. No, Aaron (or any staff member for that matter) does not have to keep explaining the same points over and over.I understand you're unhappy about it. That's not what I would want, but it seems that's the reality of the situation. It also seems apparent that we have been unable, and may not be able to meet the hard deadlines that you would like to see put in place. I'm sorry. It hasn't been possible. It may not be feasible for Dodds to hit those deadlines in the future. If that means we lost your business I'm not happy about that, but we're going to move forward and do the best we can with what we have.

 
What Shick said.I'm not sure how anyone could construe offering a full refund to an unsatisfied customer as telling them to "#### off". We've added more content than we've had during the week for this season. It's affected our ability to hit our self imposed deadlines. That's clearly been our biggest failing this season (outside of liking Kevan Barlow...) We're working on how to fix the issue and provide for our subscribers the best product we possibly can. Thanks for bearing with us.J

 
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