What if baseball career scenario (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

A: Win a World Series and be named World Series MVP, but end up a .260 hitter with Rusty Staub power.

B. Never get to a World Series but be inducted in the baseball HOF

 

[JZilla]

Ring woulda been nice, but I'll take the money and the Hall

 

[boubucarow]

Got to take the World Series. I have to imagine the bonds made on such a team last a lifetime. I actually might take being a utility type player who just contributes to such a team over a HOF career without a ring.

 

[SofaKings]

Hall.

 

[Knightro]

Thousands of people have world series rings; only hundreds can claim a HOF plaque. Put me in the more exclusive club please.

 

[dutch]

Thousands of people have world series rings; only hundreds can claim a HOF plaque. Put me in the more exclusive club please.

Only 54 players have a world series MVP to their credit; does that change your vote?I still take the bust over the trophy.

 

[Eephus]

Baseball is the most individual of the major team sports. See ya in Cooperstown.

 

[Hoos First]

I bet if you ask HOF's would they rather have a ring they would say yes.

 

[Knightro]

Thousands of people have world series rings; only hundreds can claim a HOF plaque. Put me in the more exclusive club please.

Only 54 players have a world series MVP to their credit; does that change your vote?I still take the bust over the trophy.

Not at all. a WS MVP means you were great for 4-7 games. A bust means you were great for an entire career. The criteria for the HOF is much more difficult to achieve. Hell, Joe Nelson has a WS ring and he sucks. Pat Borders has a WS MVP award and he was not that good.

 

[boubucarow]

The fame doesn't concern me.

The difference between making 500K plus for 10-15 years and superstar money would be great but not necessary.

The HOF is about individual achievement and that always would be secondary to team goals for me.

Of course, I would be the guy to take less money to be on the right team as well.

 

[TLEF316]

I bet if you ask HOF's would they rather have a ring they would say yes.

they say that because they've already had the experience of being a superstar player and all the benefits that come with it.David Eckstein's got a World Series MVP, but I'd much rather be A-Rod.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I bet if you ask HOF's would they rather have a ring they would say yes.

they say that because they've already had the experience of being a superstar player and all the benefits that come with it.David Eckstein's got a World Series MVP, but I'd much rather be A-Rod.

The feeling you would get from winning a World Series and being the MVP would be as high as you could get in sports. It's not something I think you can replicate and even though getting into the HOF would probably be something that lasted longer, the chance to be part of a World Champion and being the MVP in the most important event in baseball would be a little better IMO. Eckstein>Sandberg

 

[Knightro]

With some guys, walking around with your WS ring is like walking around wearing your HS letterman jacket any time you leave high school. Hell, Lenny Dykstra has pawned his off and countless athletes have done the same. It meant you were great for one moment. Anyone can be great for a week but it takes a special player to be great for a career which is what makes the HOF so awesome. For all the time we've had baseball in our history, there are still less than 500 players enshrined yet we've had 500 players receive WS rings since the strike.

 

[boubucarow]

With some guys, walking around with your WS ring is like walking around wearing your HS letterman jacket any time you leave high school. Hell, Lenny Dykstra has pawned his off and countless athletes have done the same. It meant you were great for one moment. Anyone can be great for a week but it takes a special player to be great for a career which is what makes the HOF so awesome. For all the time we've had baseball in our history, there are still less than 500 players enshrined yet we've had 500 players receive WS rings since the strike.

I would think the ring isn't as much about being great for one week as it is a reminder of a tremendous experience at your sports mountain top. Being a Hall of Famer is solely an individualistic pursuit and experience that wouldn't compare to that moment of pure joy in winning. It isn't even close for me.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Serious queston>WTF wears their World Series ring? I mean to baseball related events and maybe to your class reunion but I think most players who have won them have them in a trophy case or under lock and key. Any D-bag wearing their World Series Ring to Subway doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame anyway.

 

[wilked]

I bet if you ask HOF's would they rather have a ring they would say yes.

they say that because they've already had the experience of being a superstar player and all the benefits that come with it.David Eckstein's got a World Series MVP, but I'd much rather be A-Rod.

The feeling you would get from winning a World Series and being the MVP would be as high as you could get in sports. It's not something I think you can replicate and even though getting into the HOF would probably be something that lasted longer, the chance to be part of a World Champion and being the MVP in the most important event in baseball would be a little better IMO. Eckstein>Sandberg

For anyone that has had a chance to be the champion at a sport, you know that there is no feeling like celebrating after the clock expires / last out. WS MVP is the way to go here.

 

[TLEF316]

I bet if you ask HOF's would they rather have a ring they would say yes.

they say that because they've already had the experience of being a superstar player and all the benefits that come with it.David Eckstein's got a World Series MVP, but I'd much rather be A-Rod.

The feeling you would get from winning a World Series and being the MVP would be as high as you could get in sports. It's not something I think you can replicate and even though getting into the HOF would probably be something that lasted longer, the chance to be part of a World Champion and being the MVP in the most important event in baseball would be a little better IMO. Eckstein>Sandberg

For anyone that has had a chance to be the champion at a sport, you know that there is no feeling like celebrating after the clock expires / last out. WS MVP is the way to go here.

so you'd rather be Dexter Jackson than Dan Marino?I get that at the time, the win would be unbelievable. But in the long term, i'd much rather have a career full of success (albeit not the biggest team the success) than 1 magical season.

 

[boubucarow]

I bet if you ask HOF's would they rather have a ring they would say yes.

they say that because they've already had the experience of being a superstar player and all the benefits that come with it.David Eckstein's got a World Series MVP, but I'd much rather be A-Rod.

The feeling you would get from winning a World Series and being the MVP would be as high as you could get in sports. It's not something I think you can replicate and even though getting into the HOF would probably be something that lasted longer, the chance to be part of a World Champion and being the MVP in the most important event in baseball would be a little better IMO. Eckstein>Sandberg

For anyone that has had a chance to be the champion at a sport, you know that there is no feeling like celebrating after the clock expires / last out. WS MVP is the way to go here.

so you'd rather be Dexter Jackson than Dan Marino?I get that at the time, the win would be unbelievable. But in the long term, i'd much rather have a career full of success (albeit not the biggest team the success) than 1 magical season.

I pretty sure I would be happier as Dexter Jackson then as Dan Marino in the pure football sense.

 

[Eephus]

The championship is a great moment that fades in memory and is replaced in a year by another new set of champions.

The Hall of Fame isn't immortality but it's the closest thing to it in baseball terms. I think it would be very satisfying to be recognized by your peers and the general public as being the absolute best in what you did. I suppose the constant recognition could get old but it might be a positive if you were used to that adulation from your playing days. It could also be useful to always be able to pick up some cash by signing a bunch of crap.

 

[Limp Ditka]

We've seen enough athletes go broke so my thinking here is that I can make a hell of a lot more money (If the need presented itself) as a HOF'er than a WS winner or even a WS MVP.

WS winner / MVP, I might be able to milk the region I won that championship in for some dimes along the way.

HOF'er, I can milk the entire baseball community if need be.

 

[boubucarow]

For those of you voting for the Hall of Fame, what is the key factor?

Ego

Money

Fame

Other?

 

[Bogart]

Give me the Hall and all that goes with it.

I agree with everyone else, you could be hot for a 2 week period and get a WS MVP. And then you are forgotten outside of the city you won it for. Look at some of the guys who have not made it in the Hall but are really close. They are still eating for free based on their body of work.

Yes the ring would be sweet, and that would be an offseason to remember, but at the end there is a good chance you are selling cars or insurance to make money in your old age. A HOF career tells me that I made some serious cash during my playing days and I have many days in front of me banging chicks at card signing shows.

 

[boubucarow]

Give me the Hall and all that goes with it.I agree with everyone else, you could be hot for a 2 week period and get a WS MVP. And then you are forgotten outside of the city you won it for. Look at some of the guys who have not made it in the Hall but are really close. They are still eating for free based on their body of work.Yes the ring would be sweet, and that would be an offseason to remember, but at the end there is a good chance you are selling cars or insurance to make money in your old age. A HOF career tells me that I made some serious cash during my playing days and I have many days in front of me banging chicks at card signing shows.

The opening question describes the World Series MVP as a baseball player with a long career. Take 15 years at 500K and unless dumb, you won't be needing a job for the rest of your life.

 

[Bogart]

Give me the Hall and all that goes with it.I agree with everyone else, you could be hot for a 2 week period and get a WS MVP. And then you are forgotten outside of the city you won it for. Look at some of the guys who have not made it in the Hall but are really close. They are still eating for free based on their body of work.Yes the ring would be sweet, and that would be an offseason to remember, but at the end there is a good chance you are selling cars or insurance to make money in your old age. A HOF career tells me that I made some serious cash during my playing days and I have many days in front of me banging chicks at card signing shows.

The opening question describes the World Series MVP as a baseball player with a long career. Take 15 years at 500K and unless dumb, you won't be needing a job for the rest of your life.

Good point. But in today's economy a HOF will make at least 9 figures in his career and I think have more career highlights to show at the end of the day.100,000,000 >> 7,500,000. With 7.5 million I live the rest of my days on an island, with 100 million I own the island.The idea of having a ring does not mean as much to me anymore after watching guys like Ray Bourque and Karl Malone turn into mercenaries and leave their teams, just to try and get a ring.

 

[TLEF316]

if we're talking ONLY about the sport, i'd value the ring over the hall.

But you cant take it in a vacuum. HOF players have much better lives than WS MVP's that had 1 good series. They have more $$, get hotter women, ect. Its a no-brainer for me.

 

[Eephus]

Give me the Hall and all that goes with it.

I agree with everyone else, you could be hot for a 2 week period and get a WS MVP. And then you are forgotten outside of the city you won it for. Look at some of the guys who have not made it in the Hall but are really close. They are still eating for free based on their body of work.

Yes the ring would be sweet, and that would be an offseason to remember, but at the end there is a good chance you are selling cars or insurance to make money in your old age. A HOF career tells me that I made some serious cash during my playing days and I have many days in front of me banging chicks at card signing shows.

The opening question describes the World Series MVP as a baseball player with a long career. Take 15 years at 500K and unless dumb, you won't be needing a job for the rest of your life.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

David Eckstein or Ernie Banks?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This is 5 years old, but HOFers who never played in the WS.

P Jack Chesbro

Addie Joss

Kid Nichols

Rube Waddell

1B Jake Beckley

Dan Brouthers

2B Nap Lajoie

SS Hughie Jennings

Bobby Wallace

0F Jesse Burket

Ed Delahanty

Hugh Duffy

Elmer Flick

Willie Keeler

Joe Kelley

Jim O'Rourke

Sam Thompson

P Jim Bunning

Ferguson Jenkins

Ted Lyons

Phil Niekro

Gaylord Perry

C Rick Ferrell

1B George Sisler

2B Rod Carew

3B George Kell

SS Luke Appling

Ernie Banks

0F Harry Heilman

Ralph Kiner

Billy Williams

http://www.allbusiness.com/health-care-soc...l/236699-1.html

 

[Eephus]

you can add Ryne Sandberg to that list

 

[oso diablo]

For those of you voting for the Hall of Fame, what is the key factor?

a fondness for Ernie Banks?

 

[Parrothead]

World Series MVPs

Personally, I'd take the Hall...