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What is Everyones feelings on Brandon Weeden? (1 Viewer)

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I hear everyone talking about RGlll and Andrew Luck I really don't think people are noticing whats going on with Weeden. He is throwing the ball 35 to 40 times a game with 2 300 yd games and against the World Champs he went 22 for 35 291 yds 2 td's and 2 int

Now I know his int are high but this guy is putting up numbers! This could be the makings of a perfect storm here. Trent Richardson Brandon Weeden and now throw in Josh Gordon something special may be developing there. Are fantasy owners discounting Weeden does he keep this up can he be considered a # 1 by years end,

 
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They're probably happy now because he's so much better than what they've had. I don't see him being better than a top 20 qb personally. Too old and just doesn't have the experience.

 
With that receiving core, I don't think it's possible. There's just not enough talent, and if there is, it's too raw and needs times to develop.

I have been nothing short of impressed by Weedan, though. He has good footwork in the pocket and can really sling it. Given some time, I can see him becoming something. I don't think it'll happen this year though.

 
I have been watching the Browns some because of Richardson. I do like Weeden's arm. He can throw on a rope pretty well. The pass protection is good enough that he should be able to make some plays off of play action.

I have not scrutinized him enough to say what his pocket awareness is like, perhaps someone who has could comment on this.

Based on the interceptions I would say Weeden needs some time to learn to read coverages. So in a year or 2 we will be able to see what kind of progress he has made on that front. By that time Weeden will be 30-31 years old. He will not have a lot of time to develop. I could see the Browns drafting a QB again in the 1st round and Weeden becoming the veteran back up at that time. That is pretty much how I see his future.

So far the Browns have been letting Weeden throw the ball 40+ times a game. He is getting yards just because of the high pass attempts. I do not think this is a strategy for success and the coaching staff should be looking to reduce those attempts and run the ball more. However the coaching staff as far as I can tell from what I have been reading is really challenged to clueless, so Weeden might end up with 600 passing attempts EOY if they keep this up.

 
Weeden - 55%, 5 TD, 9 INT through 5 games

Peyton - 55%, 4 TD, 12 INT through 5 games

 
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I'm not big on Weeden's long-term prognosis and I believe his pass attempts go down with Haden back from suspension to bolster the defense but I do think he can be a serviceable bye week fill-in in deep leagues this season and perhaps even a capable emergency starter for the fantasy playoffs in the event of a freak injury to an RG3 or the like. The Browns draw both the Chiefs and Redskins at home in Weeks 14-15... last I checked you can put up numbers against those teams if you're throwing a lot (although Kansas City may be getting better on that front).

 
To answer your specific question, no, he won't be a QB1 by year's end. He's currently QB23 in terms of fantasy points (and hasn't had his bye yet). But he's certainly not going to be the bottom of the barrel QB30-QB32 that people were predicting early in the season either. If I were drafting today in a redraft, I'd take him over Sanchez, Tannehill, Hasselbeck, and Wilson, just to name a few names. He's a tolerable spot-start in QB2 leagues now.

I have him in a dynasty league and he's a hold-and-see for me. The talent is raw, but it's definitely there.

 
Though I rarely agree with s'tooth, I perceive him as a winner, too. It's in his countenance, his confidence, his command. He stands in the pocket & surveys the field. So many young QBs are prone to panic & shortening their fields of vision. I've also noticed him making the right reads so that the INTs are at least going to single-covered receivers most times. I like him, but I'm an optimist, so factor that in.
 
I've been hoping for someone to start a thread on Weeden!!! I just picked him up in a dynasty behind Vick n Fitz. I'm obviously hurting at the QB position which sux as I'm pretty strong at my other positions! I don't get the opportunity to watch many, if any, Clev games so these threads are important to some of us owners. It seems to me that if Weeden was drafted into a better situation, he might be something in a year or two but he gets to go to friggin' Clev!!! No offense to the Brown's fans but the organization is in "turnover" mode and Weeden's not the youngest rookie to ever be drafted! He might not have the time for Clev to turn things around! I'll be keeping a close eye on him and the Brownies as it would be a downright miracle if he would be starting for my team come next season.....

WB

 
Weeden has been criminally under-rated based almost exclusively on his age. Kind of crazy since most good QB's play well into their 30s.

He has poise, and he has the physical tools. Might never be a fantasy QB1, but he's going to be very relevant for the next 6 or 7 years, likely a mid to high end fantasy QB2.

 
Brandon Weeden earns first NFL win on 29th birthday

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

Brandon Weeden isn't getting any younger, and he hasn't stopped growing.

The Cleveland Browns' rookie quarterback turned 29 on Sunday, an afternoon when he won his first NFL game, 34-24 over the AFC North rival Cincinnati Bengals.

The Browns are the youngest team in football, and they started seven rookies Sunday. Against the Bengals, most of these newbies contributed.

Weeden was 17-of-29 passing for 231 yards and two touchdowns. One of those scoring strikes was a beauty -- a rope to 21-year-old Josh Gordon, who burned Cincinnati's secondary for a 71-yard score that marked the second-longest touchdown by a rookie receiver in Cleveland franchise history.

Some of Weeden's well-advertised on-field issues bubbled up in the win. He had another momentum-killing interception -- his NFL-worst 10 picks are dubious -- but he recovered to produce a solid game. The Browns are averaging 22 points per game after putting up 13.6 last season.

Weeden impressed me on a third-quarter quarterback sneak on which he had his helmet ripped off below a pile of defenders. Weeden calmly rose to his feet, plopped his helmet back on and guided the Browns on a 10-play, 66-yard scoring drive. He's not intimidated by NFL defenses.

Weeden hasn't made much noise in our weekly rookie quarterback ratings, and that has to do with his epic turnover count. However, we saw signs of growth on his 29th birthday.
 
Brandon Weeden earns first NFL win on 29th birthday

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

Brandon Weeden isn't getting any younger, and he hasn't stopped growing.

The Cleveland Browns' rookie quarterback turned 29 on Sunday, an afternoon when he won his first NFL game, 34-24 over the AFC North rival Cincinnati Bengals.

The Browns are the youngest team in football, and they started seven rookies Sunday. Against the Bengals, most of these newbies contributed.

Weeden was 17-of-29 passing for 231 yards and two touchdowns. One of those scoring strikes was a beauty -- a rope to 21-year-old Josh Gordon, who burned Cincinnati's secondary for a 71-yard score that marked the second-longest touchdown by a rookie receiver in Cleveland franchise history.

Some of Weeden's well-advertised on-field issues bubbled up in the win. He had another momentum-killing interception -- his NFL-worst 10 picks are dubious -- but he recovered to produce a solid game. The Browns are averaging 22 points per game after putting up 13.6 last season.

Weeden impressed me on a third-quarter quarterback sneak on which he had his helmet ripped off below a pile of defenders. Weeden calmly rose to his feet, plopped his helmet back on and guided the Browns on a 10-play, 66-yard scoring drive. He's not intimidated by NFL defenses.

Weeden hasn't made much noise in our weekly rookie quarterback ratings, and that has to do with his epic turnover count. However, we saw signs of growth on his 29th birthday.
The INT was a batted ball that miraculously bounded directly to another Bengal 8 yards away. The implication that he through an ill-advised pass into coverage is just bad journalism.
 
Brandon Weeden earns first NFL win on 29th birthday

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

Brandon Weeden isn't getting any younger, and he hasn't stopped growing.

The Cleveland Browns' rookie quarterback turned 29 on Sunday, an afternoon when he won his first NFL game, 34-24 over the AFC North rival Cincinnati Bengals.

The Browns are the youngest team in football, and they started seven rookies Sunday. Against the Bengals, most of these newbies contributed.

Weeden was 17-of-29 passing for 231 yards and two touchdowns. One of those scoring strikes was a beauty -- a rope to 21-year-old Josh Gordon, who burned Cincinnati's secondary for a 71-yard score that marked the second-longest touchdown by a rookie receiver in Cleveland franchise history.

Some of Weeden's well-advertised on-field issues bubbled up in the win. He had another momentum-killing interception -- his NFL-worst 10 picks are dubious -- but he recovered to produce a solid game. The Browns are averaging 22 points per game after putting up 13.6 last season.

Weeden impressed me on a third-quarter quarterback sneak on which he had his helmet ripped off below a pile of defenders. Weeden calmly rose to his feet, plopped his helmet back on and guided the Browns on a 10-play, 66-yard scoring drive. He's not intimidated by NFL defenses.

Weeden hasn't made much noise in our weekly rookie quarterback ratings, and that has to do with his epic turnover count. However, we saw signs of growth on his 29th birthday.
The INT was a batted ball that miraculously bounded directly to another Bengal 8 yards away. The implication that he through an ill-advised pass into coverage is just bad journalism.
I'd say at least 2 other INTs this season were due to similar situations of batted balls getting picked. Weeden has been more impressive than his numbers would indicate.
 
Weeden is a rookie QB. Weeden has the worst WR corp in the NFL. The Browns are not a great run organization. The guy is bound to struggle. He is never going to be great but could be better than average. He is good enough for the Browns to keep as their starter as they fill other holes such as WR and TE next year.

 
Brandon Weeden earns first NFL win on 29th birthday

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

Brandon Weeden isn't getting any younger, and he hasn't stopped growing.

The Cleveland Browns' rookie quarterback turned 29 on Sunday, an afternoon when he won his first NFL game, 34-24 over the AFC North rival Cincinnati Bengals.

The Browns are the youngest team in football, and they started seven rookies Sunday. Against the Bengals, most of these newbies contributed.

Weeden was 17-of-29 passing for 231 yards and two touchdowns. One of those scoring strikes was a beauty -- a rope to 21-year-old Josh Gordon, who burned Cincinnati's secondary for a 71-yard score that marked the second-longest touchdown by a rookie receiver in Cleveland franchise history.

Some of Weeden's well-advertised on-field issues bubbled up in the win. He had another momentum-killing interception -- his NFL-worst 10 picks are dubious -- but he recovered to produce a solid game. The Browns are averaging 22 points per game after putting up 13.6 last season.

Weeden impressed me on a third-quarter quarterback sneak on which he had his helmet ripped off below a pile of defenders. Weeden calmly rose to his feet, plopped his helmet back on and guided the Browns on a 10-play, 66-yard scoring drive. He's not intimidated by NFL defenses.

Weeden hasn't made much noise in our weekly rookie quarterback ratings, and that has to do with his epic turnover count. However, we saw signs of growth on his 29th birthday.
The INT was a batted ball that miraculously bounded directly to another Bengal 8 yards away. The implication that he through an ill-advised pass into coverage is just bad journalism.
I'd say at least 2 other INTs this season were due to similar situations of batted balls getting picked. Weeden has been more impressive than his numbers would indicate.
Not only that but for the people who based their opinion of Weeden off of his first game, 0 TDs with 4 INTs, that was obviously the abbertation. His first NFL game, the offensive line was working in a rookie at right tackle, it was Trent Richardson's first game after coming off of surgery and he struggled in that game as well. The team had lost starting OLB Chris Gocong to a season ending injury and had suspensions for OLB Scott Fujita AND their top defender, CB Joe Haden, hanging over their heads. In addition the club was counting on, 'sic' WR Greg Little, to be the #1 WR on the club as they worked in two rookie WRs, Travis Benjamin and supplemental draft pick WR Josh Gordon.Nothing was settled in that first game. This is the YOUNGEST NFL team in the league.

The fact that Weeden bounced back in a big way the following week against Cincinatti was huge from my perspective. Also in the second game the offensive line didn't struggle nearly enough and RB Trent Richardson stepped up. The Browns continued to struggle at the WR position and would until injuries forced the coaches to push WR Josh Gordon into the lineup against the Giants in New York. Gordon is far from a polished reciever, he can't run every route in the route tree but he certainly can stretch the field vertically AND, most importantly, SCORE.

Take out that first game and his TD/INT ratio is 7 TDs/7 INTs and quite frankly I would start the tape from this game forward since WR Josh Gordon has obviously taken over the #1 WR stop from Greg Little and the offensive line has settled down and now CB Joe Haden is back so the pressure to constantly score just to keep pace is reduced somewhat but their are still tons of issues on defense so Weeden should still be dropping back to pass a ton going forward but things are begining to settle and stabalize on offense.

1. PHI - TD/INT ratio 0-4, passing yards 118, QB passer rating 5.1

2. CIN - TD/INT 2-0, 322, 114.9 (broke two all-time rookie club records for a QB with yaardage and QB rating)

3. BUF - TD/INT 1-2, 237, 65.7

4. BAL - TD/INT 0-1, 320, 59.8

5. NYG - TD/INT 2-2, 291, 84.2

6. CIN - TD/INT 2-2, 231, 92.7

Look at the QB passer ratings over the last two weeks once WR Josh Gordon was plugged into the starting lineup. Gordon also has three of the four TDs that Weeden has thrown over that two-game span.

As long as that rib injury to RB Trent Richardson isn't serious and Josh Gordon continues to improve then Weeden should continue his improvement but he isn't the same guy who began the season with 0 TDs and 4 INTs and a QB Passer rating of 5.1. Anyone foolish enough to think that obviously hadn't noticed that Trent Richardson only caught one pass in that game for 5 yards and only managed 39 rushing yards on 19 carries in his very first NFL game AFTER coming off surgery where he missed training camp and the entire preseason.

Richardson and Ogbanyana have been a big part of the recieving corps coming out of the backfield and that has helped cut down on the pressure that Weeden faced in that first game against Philly when he looked awful but he was under continuous durress.

The team still had to count on WR Greg Little as the #1 WR but he kept dropping balls and killing drives and lost the confidence of Weeden. Now with Gordon and Richardson and yes even Ogbanaya playing big roles, the recieving corps has settled down but it still can improve since both TE Ben Watson and TE Jordan Cameron had been silent until yesterday and I think they both can make big contributions if they get the chance.

Bottom line? Look at the last two games when WR Josh Gordon was forced into the starting lineup and how much of an impact it has made on Weeden's QB passer rating. Weeden would have much better stats if Greg Little had caught just half of those balls that he dropped or if he could make the sort of impact that Josh Gordon has made.

 
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