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I was offered both Both Bells for Caddy and my 1st round pick in 2008(I do not have a first in 2007).This is dynasty, i said no
I agree. Either hold onto him and ride the numbers that Denver's feature back always gives you, or wait until a game where he gets 100 yards and a touchdown before you field any offers.If you trade him now, you won''t get top dollar.
Well I'm desperate for a WR, but I won't be desperately trying to give him away. I'm trying to get a top WR in return. (Probably from a team that has Boldin and TO).I think it will be interesting to see where Dodds ranks him this week in his 250 Forward.
I have M Bell and can't give him away right now - Tatum owner is stubborn but should get him off me now for cheap!
Who are your RB's now?
Willie Parker, Ronnie Brown and Maroney. The move thinned me out at RBs, but if an injury occurs I have enough WR power to go get a good enough RB. I'm not too worried.Starting lineup of...VickParker, Ronnie BrownHarrison, Holt, Chad JohnsonCooleyElamPitt D
Poor trade - even on Friday.Now it is a
not me.
I agree I don't feel great about it now. But I decided to take the gamble since Tatum was my RB #4.Poor trade - even on Friday.Now it is a
Yes. And really only the Tatum Bell owner has any interest in Mike Bell at this point. If you can trade him, I would definitely do it.
Having Lamont as your RB4 might be OK - but when will you use him?The gamble would have been to hang onto TBell, hope that what happened last night happens in the future, and trade him for starting player help - an elite WR, for instance. Will Lamon Jordan have a string of games that make a trade partner a "believer"? I don't know - but, I DO know that folks have faith in WHOever the Denver RB starter is - and will trade for him.With Jordan, people will be waiting for the bottom to drop and his value will remain deflated.I agree I don't feel great about it now. But I decided to take the gamble since Tatum was my RB #4.Poor trade - even on Friday.Now it is a
Mike Bell's value right now is much higher as a reserve than it is in a trade.If you have the roster space, just sit tight on him. He has huge value in the event of a Tatum Bell injury or if Tatum somehow works his way into Shanny's doghouse.I doubt an owner would give up much of anything for a guy who got three carries yesterday.
I agree
Bad assumption.Unless I hear a good reason from Shanny why Mike was riding pine, I think the safe assumption here is that Tatum took the job and ran with it.
As far as I'm concerned, Mike Bell = Michael Turner. Quality backup who might put up some good games on small carries, but who could easily become a top-12 RB if the guy in front of him goes down.
This is like the 5th time you've mentioned this mental handicap of mine. I seriously don't get it.Like I said, I have said *SEVERAL TIMES* that TBell was the most talented RB on the team, and that as a Denver fan I would love nothing more than for TBell to take the job and run with it. If you don't believe me, I can provide links and quotes backing this up. Several links, and several quotes, because as I said, I've *repeatedly* made this assertion.My big knock against TBell has always been one of OPPORTUNITY, not talent. When your coach goes out of his way to say FOUR TIMES during a six month span that he's going to limit your carries, and that he's going to CONTINUE limiting your carries, and when your GM comes out and says the exact same thing, and when you yourself come out and say that it's plain as day that the coaching staff is opposed to giving you a heavy workload... well then, don't be surprised if I'm not doing backflips over your chances to put up fantastic numbers. If Schottenheimer said he was going to limit LaDanian Freaking Tomlinson to 15 carries per game, and if every action Schotty took backed up that statement 100%, then I'd be pretty down on LaDanian Tomlinson, as well.
LOL....3 games does not make a season. History tells us it wont last. P.S. IF he's not the goal-line back his 20 touches are more like 15. :(Shanny is giving him 20+.What more evidence do you need?
Ummm...more than ONE game.Shanny is giving him 20+.
I actually got lucky and the owner accepted my offer today.
Pop Quiz: When was the last time a Denver RB averaged 20+ carries a game?Answer: 1998, when TD ran for 2,000 yards.Shanny is giving him 20+.
No way would I do it. Driver and Chad Johnson are pretty close (close enough that I wouldn't call Chad Johnson a big upgrade), while I fully expect TBell to blow Deshaun out of the water, especially after Deshaun loses his job in a couple of weeks.TDTommy said:
I disagree. I think his skill set is tremendous...his durability is an issue. Not that he is near the specimen that Portis is, but of all the Denver RB's who have has their fifteen minutes, Tatum is the closest to his abilities. You take any RB and stick him behind a run-down o-line and there is going to be issues. But if Tatum went to another team with reasonable blocking, a reasonable offense, he'd be a RB2 at worst. He is a Dunn/FWP type back, fast and slashy, and small.
When I watch Tatum run, he seems fast and quick--and that is all. His ability to move the pile is vastly improved, but he still lacks ideal power. He's not as shifty as FWP, he doesn't have the vision of Dunn, and he goes down too often on first contact. What makes him succeed in Denver is that the holes are so large and he hits them so fast that he's often not touched until he gets to the second level, and sometimes, he's not touched at all. Most teams don't open holes that big.
I think what we're seeing is that the Denver system can turn a decent NFL running back into a top 10 fantasy player, and make a good player top 5 or better. But it can't always turn a bad running back into a good fantasy player, which may have been the case with Mike Bell. Shanahan's always been good at picking RB talent, and always seems to find a guy that fits the Denver system and can be taught how to fix whatever holes cause him to slip in the draft. But I think the Clarett debacle, the use of a roster spot on Dayne, and the trade of Droughns all killed the depth on the team, and when they used their excellent draft position this year to pick up Cutler and Walker, they bypassed a lot of RB talent and put all their eggs in the basked of late round or undrafted talent. I think in Shanahan's ideal case, Tatum WOULD be limited to a smaller number of carries. Which means that I'm a little nervous about his value, even if he plays well. Even if he plays well, I wouldn't be surprised to see his carries tail off later in the season, or to see Denver draft someone in the offseason to replace him or split time with him. I would probably hang on to him in a dynasty/keeper league, and look to trade him later in the season, or trade for him after this week's game, with the hope of using him in the short term and then flipping him later for an upgrade. Either way, I probably wouldn't make a Tatum Bell move this week unless it was especially favorable.This is like the 5th time you've mentioned this mental handicap of mine. I seriously don't get it.Like I said, I have said *SEVERAL TIMES* that TBell was the most talented RB on the team, and that as a Denver fan I would love nothing more than for TBell to take the job and run with it. If you don't believe me, I can provide links and quotes backing this up. Several links, and several quotes, because as I said, I've *repeatedly* made this assertion.My big knock against TBell has always been one of OPPORTUNITY, not talent. When your coach goes out of his way to say FOUR TIMES during a six month span that he's going to limit your carries, and that he's going to CONTINUE limiting your carries, and when your GM comes out and says the exact same thing, and when you yourself come out and say that it's plain as day that the coaching staff is opposed to giving you a heavy workload... well then, don't be surprised if I'm not doing backflips over your chances to put up fantastic numbers. If Schottenheimer said he was going to limit LaDanian Freaking Tomlinson to 15 carries per game, and if every action Schotty took backed up that statement 100%, then I'd be pretty down on LaDanian Tomlinson, as well.
Just teasing ya, BTW.
