What is the highest scoring single season offense in NFL history? (1 Viewer)

[Ghost Rider]

The '07 Patriots scored 589 points, but 9 of those TDs were on defensive or special teams returns, so the offense actually scored 526 points. I am curious if the '98 Vikings offense scored more. They had 556 points, but I am not sure how many returns they had. Or what about that Redskins offense from the team that had 541 points?

 

[David Yudkin]

Of the teams you listed . . .

98 MIN

58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)

83 WAS

59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)

07 NE

67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

 

[Assani Fisher]

They don't kick extra points on defensive/special teams touchdowns?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Of the teams you listed . . .98 MIN58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)83 WAS59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)07 NE67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

NE had 9 non offensive TDs. And those numbers are not adding up. Those Vikings numbers would give them 512 on offense, with the non offensive TD bumping it up to 518, but they scored 556, so those numbers you posted are not entirely accurate. Where did you get them from?

 

[FUBAR]

If you're only counting offense, are you going to include FG's and XPs, which are actually special teams?

 

[Ghost Rider]

If you're only counting offense, are you going to include FG's and XPs, which are actually special teams?

That is a tough call, as in most cases, the offense moving the ball is what lead to the FGs and XPs being scored, but there are special cases, like two weeks ago when the Patriots blocked a Jets punt and recovered it at the 3. The offense got credit for the TD, but that was basically a special teams score. Things like that are why this kind of stat isn't that definitive.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

Of the teams you listed . . .98 MIN58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)83 WAS59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)07 NE67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

Don't forget 2 pt conversions / blocked XP

 

[Shlon]

Of the teams you listed . . .98 MIN58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)83 WAS59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)07 NE67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

Don't forget 2 pt conversions / blocked XP

There was no 2 pt conversion for the 83 Redskins. 98 Vikings had three 2pt conversions, it wouldn't make up the difference between them & the 07 Pats. Vikings had 0 blocked XP & Pats had 0 blocked XP. So 07 Pats = highest scoring offense.

 

[[scooter]]

What about "points per game"? Did any of the teams from the 14-game era have a higher scoring average?

 

[David Yudkin]

Of the teams you listed . . .98 MIN58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)83 WAS59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)07 NE67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

NE had 9 non offensive TDs. And those numbers are not adding up. Those Vikings numbers would give them 512 on offense, with the non offensive TD bumping it up to 518, but they scored 556, so those numbers you posted are not entirely accurate. Where did you get them from?

Pats had 50 passing TD and 17 rushing TD. Yahoo has them down for 6 defensive TD and 1 return TD.

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

If you take out the Randy Moss TD's, the Vikings scored more. Which shows again, Denny Green + Randall Cunningham >>>> Bill Belichick + Tom Brady

 

[Shlon]

Of the teams you listed . . .

98 MIN

58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)

83 WAS

59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)

07 NE

67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

NE had 9 non offensive TDs. And those numbers are not adding up. Those Vikings numbers would give them 512 on offense, with the non offensive TD bumping it up to 518, but they scored 556, so those numbers you posted are not entirely accurate. Where did you get them from?

Non-offensive TD's for Vikings. 3 INT returns for TD, 2 Fumble Recoveries for TD, 0 Punt Returns for TD, 1 Kick Return for TD. From http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/1998.htm No Safeties.

 

[David Yudkin]

Of the teams you listed . . .

98 MIN

58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)

83 WAS

59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)

07 NE

67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

NE had 9 non offensive TDs. And those numbers are not adding up. Those Vikings numbers would give them 512 on offense, with the non offensive TD bumping it up to 518, but they scored 556, so those numbers you posted are not entirely accurate. Where did you get them from?

Non-offensive TD's for Vikings. 3 INT returns for TD, 2 Fumble Recoveries for TD, 0 Punt Returns for TD, 1 Kick Return for TD. From http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/min/1998.htm No Safeties.

I forgot to add in 2 point conversion attempts, but it does look like the Vikes had 6 return TDs that year but definitely 58 offensive TD.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Of the teams you listed . . .98 MIN58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)83 WAS59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)07 NE67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

NE had 9 non offensive TDs. And those numbers are not adding up. Those Vikings numbers would give them 512 on offense, with the non offensive TD bumping it up to 518, but they scored 556, so those numbers you posted are not entirely accurate. Where did you get them from?

Pats had 50 passing TD and 17 rushing TD. Yahoo has them down for 6 defensive TD and 1 return TD.

That is not right. From looking at all of their game recaps, the Patriots had the following defensive or special teams scores:-Ellis Hobbs 108 Yd Kickoff Return (against the Jets in week 1)-Adalius Thomas 65 Yd Interception Return (against the Chargers in week 2)-Randall Gay 15 Yd Fumble Return (against the Browns in week 5)-Willie Andrews 77 Yd Kickoff Return (against the Dolphins in week 7)-Rosevelt Colvin 11 Yd Fumble Return (against the Redskins in week 8)-Ellis Hobbs 35 Yd Fumble Return (against the Bills in week 11)-Asante Samuel 40 Yd Interception Return (against the Eagles in week 12)-Eugene Wilson 5 Yd Interception Return (against the Jets in week 15)Okay, so it was not 9 like I thought or 7 like you thought. We both got wrong info. The numbers still do not add up, though...

 

[David Yudkin]

If I can get this to format right, here is the scoring breakdown the Boston Globe has . . .

Scoring Statistics Player G TDs Rush Rec Ret XPM XPA FGM FGA 2pt Safety Pts R. Moss 16 23 0 23 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 138 S. Gostkowski 16 0 0 0 0 74 74 21 24 0 0 137 W. Welker 16 8 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 48 L. Maroney 13 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 38 B. Watson 12 6 0 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 36 J. Gaffney 16 5 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 30 H. Evans 16 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 S. Morris 6 3 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 D. Stallworth 16 3 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 K. Brady 14 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 T. Brady 16 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 K. Eckel 12 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 E. Hobbs 16 2 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 M. Vrabel 16 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 W. Andrews 15 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 M. Cassel 6 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 R. Colvin 11 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 K. Faulk 16 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 R. Gay 16 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 A. Samuel 16 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 A. Thomas 16 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 E. Wilson 11 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 6 Total 16 75 17 50 8 74 74 21 24 1 0 589

That didn't work, so here is the link instead . . .Pats scoring

 

[Shlon]

Of the teams you listed . . .

98 MIN

58 offensive TD, 35 FG, 59 XP (so 1 non offensive TD)

83 WAS

59 offensive TD, 33 FG, 62 XP (so 3 non offensive TD)

07 NE

67 offensive TD, 21 FG, 74 XP (so 7 non offensive TD)

NE had 9 non offensive TDs. And those numbers are not adding up. Those Vikings numbers would give them 512 on offense, with the non offensive TD bumping it up to 518, but they scored 556, so those numbers you posted are not entirely accurate. Where did you get them from?

Pats had 50 passing TD and 17 rushing TD. Yahoo has them down for 6 defensive TD and 1 return TD.

That is not right. From looking at all of their game recaps, the Patriots had the following defensive or special teams scores:-Ellis Hobbs 108 Yd Kickoff Return (against the Jets in week 1)

-Adalius Thomas 65 Yd Interception Return (against the Chargers in week 2)

-Randall Gay 15 Yd Fumble Return (against the Browns in week 5)

-Willie Andrews 77 Yd Kickoff Return (against the Dolphins in week 7)

-Rosevelt Colvin 11 Yd Fumble Return (against the Redskins in week 8)

-Ellis Hobbs 35 Yd Fumble Return (against the Bills in week 11)

-Asante Samuel 40 Yd Interception Return (against the Eagles in week 12)

-Eugene Wilson 5 Yd Interception Return (against the Jets in week 15)

Okay, so it was not 9 like I thought or 7 like you thought. We both got wrong info. The numbers still do not add up, though...

1998 Vikings:58 Offensive TD's (348)

35 FG's (105)

59 XP (59)

3 two point conversions (6)

Total Offensive Points: 518

6 Non-offensive TD's: (36)

Total: 554 (2 points missing from pro-football-reference. They report 0 Safeties but they could've had one to make up the difference of 2).

2007 Pats:

67 Offensive TD's (402)

21 FG's (63)

74 XP (74)

1 two point conversion (2)

Total Offensive Points: 541

8 Non-offensive TD's: (48)

Total: 589

 

[Ghost Rider]

Okay, that helps. So, unless that Redskins scored all 541 of their points on offense, then the Patriots are the highest scoring single offense in NFL history. Question answered.

 

[Bill Lust]

It was my understanding that there would be no math involved.