What is the street value for the 1.01 rookie pick? (1 Viewer)

[Black]

PPR - startTraded 1.1 for 1.8, 1.9, 1.10

Would you guys have done that?

I need RB help in the league & estimate at least 1-2 RB's I like will slip to that spot in the draft. Owner I traded with is very thin at WR & really wanted Watkins.

If I were the other guy, I would have stuck with 1.8, 1.9, 1.10 with all the depth at WR. He could have easily taken 3 WR or 2WR/1RB at those picks and probably hit on at least one WR. For you, assuming at least a couple of WR go early (Watkins, Evans), you should get a shot at 2-3 RBs.

IMO, I think there are about 8 really good WR:

Watkins, Lee, Evans, Beckham, Benjamin?, Allen Robinson, Brandon Cooks, Jordan Matthews.

For RBs, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder (big bruisers, PPR guys), but should be at least 7 good ones and probably more who could have fantasy value, depending on landing spot:

Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, Kadeem Carey, Tre Mason, Bishop Sankey, Lache Seastrunk, Devonta Freeman.

If any QBs or TEs go in the top 10, then some of these WR/RBs are going to be avail until the very end of the 2nd round.

 

[drew1976]

Modified my deal a little bit:

I get

Garcon, Robert Woods, 1.3

He gets:

Larry Fitzgerald, 1.1

 

[ghostguy123]

Modified my deal a little bit:

I get

Garcon, Robert Woods, 1.3

He gets:

Larry Fitzgerald, 1.1

I am thinkin I like the Fitzy and pick 1 side of that.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Modified my deal a little bit:

I get

Garcon, Robert Woods, 1.3

He gets:

Larry Fitzgerald, 1.1

I am thinkin I like the Fitzy and pick 1 side of that.

Ditto.

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

10 team league, Dez Bryant with a 3 year contract (5 yr max per player) was offered straight up for the 1.01 and it was turned down.

Ouch. Give me Dez every day of the week. Sure, he only has 3 years, but Watkins will probably burn at least 2 seasons getting to the point where Dez is at now, which means by the time he's carrying fantasy teams, he'll only have 3 years, too. Assuming he ever reaches that point.

Yeah, whoever turned that down is nuts, or is doing a rebuild where they specifically are trying to win 4 years from now. And even if that is so, ya still take Dez and just re-deal him for more.

Yeah, Dez should have been an easy accept. The same two owners consummated a deal:

1.01 for

1.06, 2015 1st (should be 7-10 range), Alfred Morris (2 yr contract)

 

[ghostguy123]

Yeah, Dez should have been an easy accept. The same two owners consummated a deal:

1.01 for

1.06, 2015 1st (should be 7-10 range), Alfred Morris (2 yr contract)

At least he still got a good haul for pick 1, and I even think Morris is overvalued.

 

[drew1976]

Modified my deal a little bit:

I get

Garcon, Robert Woods, 1.3

He gets:

Larry Fitzgerald, 1.1

I am thinkin I like the Fitzy and pick 1 side of that.

Ditto.

I wanted to get younger at WR. Already have Harvin and Floyd but also have Fitz and VJax.

Now I have 1.3, 1.7 and 1.9. I can go with RB at 1.3 or maybe Evans falls to me there.

I think Garcon and Woods are the best options on their teams and Woods is Manuels favorite target. We start 4WRs, so I tried to get young but still compete. Knew I wasn't stealing anything here.

 

[cstu]

I think he performed better than expected, especially later in the year, and now his situation is better.

I am personally not sure if I prefer pick 1 or Patterson. I might not even know after the draft.

As far as "what did he do to increase his value from last years draft", I think if you have to ask that question then you either didn't watch, or don't realize what you were watching.

I don't think that's fair at all. It should come as no shock to anyone that he's a spectacular threat as a ball carrier, on bubble screens, in the return game, etc. That's what made him a 1st round NFL and FF pick last year, and that's what he showed. The reason he wasn't a HIGH pick were the legitimate questions about how long it will take him to learn the entire NFL route tree, and what he did last year doesn't address that at all.

Yeah, exactly.

When a guy comes into to the league as a first round pick lauded for his explosiveness, why would you bump him up based on him showing that explosiveness? Didn't people already know he was a big guy who ran well in the open field? Isn't that why he was a top 32 NFL draft pick and a consensus top 5-6 rookie pick?

I'm not saying he can't be a superstar. I'm saying nothing in his rookie performance exceeded what he was touted as all along. Thus there's little reason to significantly bump up his value. Likewise, if Watkins comes out next year and gets 700-800 yards with a handful of impressive TDs, is that really going to move the needle at all? Isn't that sort of what we expect him to do? I don't know why you would adjust a player's value when he merely meets your expectations, apart from maybe eliminating some of the Rashaun Woods/AJ Jenkins/Buster Davis DOA bust risk that you might have assigned to him before his rookie year.

I understand your point, but I disagree a bit. Patterson looked even more explosive and dynamic than advertised in my opinion.

We also knew that Tavon Austin was really fast and explosive and he was generally a higher pick than Patterson in rookie drafts. Patterson was a lot more impressive just purely from a physical and athletic perspective against NFL talent than Tavon. Thus he moved up while Tavon's stock has dropped.

While I agree that he still has to show he can overcome a lot of the negatives that were on his scouting report, in my opinion he would go higher than 26 overall in the real NFL draft if they re-picked today based on what he showed. He might even go top 10 overall. And I think his fantasy stock is also higher based on what he showed.

Austin's run against Arizona was equally or more impressive than anything Patterson did last year IMO. That run was absolutely ridiculous. Austin and Patterson are pretty close to the same guy IMO -- both have absurd big play potential that literally jumps off the screen, and both have questions about their ability to be a traditional NFL WR, although for different reasons. It's amazing that Patterson is valued so much more highly, considering they had almost identical rookie years, and despite his size, Austin was a much higher pick. Austin at his WR3 price is an infinitely better buy than is Patterson at his WR1 price.

I didn't realize it until now but they had nearly identical rookie seasons:

Austin: 40/418/4

Patterson: 45/469/4