That's a fair offer. I'd take the picks. Cook is at his highest value since his ACL tear. It's a good time to get out imo. Hopefully he takes it.I countered he has 3 1st rnd picks I countered with those picks. #3,#7 and #8.He always puts lame offers out there. He never responded back.
Brees doesn’t have much value in dynasty.Just took over an orphaned team in an 8 year old dynasty. My first day in the system was offered J. Brissett and Tre'Quan Smith for Drew Brees. Oof!
According to fantasy pros Brees and Smith are only 7 players apart.voiceofunreason said:Brees doesn’t have much value in dynasty.
voiceofunreason said:Brees doesn’t have much value in dynasty.
Not to belabor the discussion, but we're talking two guys who will be lucky to see the field on Sunday (Smith may not even hold down the Saint's WR3 spot) vs. the #5 QB in this league on an average points per game played basis. I too looked at the DTC, but I believe the eye test serves me better here.According to fantasy pros Brees and Smith are only 7 players apart.
In single QB dynasty leagues, the likes of Brees has very little value. It was a bad offer for sure but you won't get much better offers if you put him up on the trade block. He is the type of player that is worth much more to his owner than anybody you would try and trade him to. The time to get the most value for him (if you wanted to move him) would be mid season if a contender loses his QB.Not to belabor the discussion, but we're talking two guys who will be lucky to see the field on Sunday (Smith may not even hold down the Saint's WR3 spot) vs. the #5 QB in this league on an average points per game played basis. I too looked at the DTC, but I believe the eye test serves me better here.
I hear you. I wouldn't do that trade either. But I'm not a T. Smith believer. According to dynasty value it was a fair trade offer. If he really wants Brees maybe try to get like a WR3 type from him. Assuming you have other options at QB.Not to belabor the discussion, but we're talking two guys who will be lucky to see the field on Sunday (Smith may not even hold down the Saint's WR3 spot) vs. the #5 QB in this league on an average points per game played basis. I too looked at the DTC, but I believe the eye test serves me better here.
Smith and Brissett have negative value though tying up roster spots.voiceofunreason said:Brees doesn’t have much value in dynasty.
I understand him not taking your offer, but it’s not bad. His is the kind of offer you send back after someone offers their 3rd rd draft pick for your best player.With Gronk coming to town I sent an offer of:
J. Cook, 2021 3rd (late)
for
OJ Howard, 2021 2nd
Team that would get Cook needs TE help and has a strong roster.
I was countered with
J. Ajayi, Alshon Jeffrey
for
Tyreek Hill, AJB
I'm sure he thinks that he "got you good". But he's the jerk, not you.With Gronk coming to town I sent an offer of:
J. Cook, 2021 3rd (late)
for
OJ Howard, 2021 2nd
Team that would get Cook needs TE help and has a strong roster.
I was countered with
J. Ajayi, Alshon Jeffrey
for
Tyreek Hill, AJB
Yeah, he has been sending out offers that are heavily in his favor and when I tell him where I stand he sends out equally bad offers. This isn't the first time he has countered with horrible offers. I haven't been able to figure out how he values players and have never been able to make a trade with him. I think I will hold off sending him offers because I think he gets offended easily and reacts this way.I'm sure he thinks that he "got you good". But he's the jerk, not you.
Sure but an opening offer for a qb who has a TV lined up after they retire, you can't make an offer bad enough to be in this thread.Smith and Brissett have negative value though tying up roster spots.
He shouldn't have got offended by your offer (and his counter was childishly ridiculous) but I do think you sent him a bad offer. Howard is worth more than Cook and you wanted the pick upgrade.Yeah, he has been sending out offers that are heavily in his favor and when I tell him where I stand he sends out equally bad offers. This isn't the first time he has countered with horrible offers. I haven't been able to figure out how he values players and have never been able to make a trade with him. I think I will hold off sending him offers because I think he gets offended easily and reacts this way.
In a Superflex is that terrible?A buddy of mine sent me one he just got offered.
12 Team SF
Matt Ryan and 2.05
for
1.01
It was a starting point. Last year Cook outscored by almost double the points in PPR. In my league it was 155 to 85. Cook should be able to repeat that and OJ Howard just got major competition for targets at the TE position. I know Howard is younger and if you still believe in him he would be more valuable than Cook. It was a feeler to see where he stood. I don't think of my offer as bad.He shouldn't have got offended by your offer (and his counter was childishly ridiculous) but I do think you sent him a bad offer. Howard is worth more than Cook and you wanted the pick upgrade.
Saints added Emmanuel Sanders and will likely draft a WR early (and Cook is what he is a career underachiever) - and there's many indications that Howard will now be traded.It was a starting point. Last year Cook outscored by almost double the points in PPR. In my league it was 155 to 85. Cook should be able to repeat that and OJ Howard just got major competition for targets at the TE position. I know Howard is younger and if you still believe in him he would be more valuable than Cook. It was a feeler to see where he stood. I don't think of my offer as bad.
NiceDynasty 12 teamer. My son just got an offer:
He gives: Miles Sanders.
He would get: 2020 pick 2.10
Ohh a bunch of dart throws for the fifth? How can you say no?In a 16 team large roster, balanced IDP scoring league I was offered:
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.11
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.14
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.15
Year 2020 Draft Pick 5.01
Year 2020 Draft Pick 5.11
Year 2020 Draft Pick 6.01
for my Year 2020 Draft Pick 1.05
This seems pretty bad to me![]()
That’s....not good, no.In a 16 team large roster, balanced IDP scoring league I was offered:
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.11
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.14
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.15
Year 2020 Draft Pick 5.01
Year 2020 Draft Pick 5.11
Year 2020 Draft Pick 6.01
for my Year 2020 Draft Pick 1.05
This seems pretty bad to me![]()
This one’s the winner so far. Yeesh2020 Pick 28
2020 Pick 42
2021 Late 3rd rounder.
----------for------------
Juju
This is one of the worst I have seenIn a 16 team large roster, balanced IDP scoring league I was offered:
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.11
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.14
Year 2020 Draft Pick 4.15
Year 2020 Draft Pick 5.01
Year 2020 Draft Pick 5.11
Year 2020 Draft Pick 6.01
for my Year 2020 Draft Pick 1.05
This seems pretty bad to me![]()
LolWith Gronk coming to town I sent an offer of:
J. Cook, 2021 3rd (late)
for
OJ Howard, 2021 2nd
Team that would get Cook needs TE help and has a strong roster.
I was countered with
J. Ajayi, Alshon Jeffrey
for
Tyreek Hill, AJB
Chicken dinnerAndy Dufresne said:PPR IDP Zealots
I get
Gandy-Golden, Antonio WAS WR
Flowers, Trey DET DE
Year 2021 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2021 Round 1 Draft Pick
I give
Edwards-Helaire, Clyde KCC RB
Moss, Zack BUF RB
Ruggs, Henry LVR WR
Young, Chase WAS DE
I'm getting offers from a guy that are so heavily weighted in his favor he must have thought I was struck in the head with a shovel recently. I think he offered two second rounders, Steven Sims, and some other guy for Elliott, Chase Young, and two others. But I've never sent a snark offer or acted incredulous back. I just sat and explained how much those players are generally worth with a polite refusal. That led us to talking football for a bit over email...about the season, etc.I'm sure he thinks that he "got you good". But he's the jerk, not you.
Andy Dufresne said:PPR IDP Zealots
I get
Gandy-Golden, Antonio WAS WR
Flowers, Trey DET DE
Year 2021 Round 1 Draft Pick
Year 2021 Round 1 Draft Pick
I give
Edwards-Helaire, Clyde KCC RB
Moss, Zack BUF RB
Ruggs, Henry LVR WR
Young, Chase WAS DE
His follow up was even better...I mean, honestly...Chicken dinner
That’s....not good.A buddy of mine sent me one he just got offered.
12 Team SF
Matt Ryan and 2.05
for
1.01
I don’t know, I think maybe you should give that one some serious consideration.His follow up was even better...I mean, honestly...
I get
Evans, Darrynton TEN RB
Jefferson, Van LAR WR
Year 2021 Round 1 Draft Pick from Denver Broncos
I give
Edwards-Helaire, Clyde KCC RB
Ruggs, Henry LVR WR
That seems pretty fair… I’m a little surprised you didn’t accept. Not only is it a fair deal, it seems like a fairly reasonable response to his offer. So both on its own merit, and in context I don’t see why he wouldn’t accept that.I countered he has 3 1st rnd picks I countered with those picks. #3,#7 and #8.He always puts lame offers out there. He never responded back.
I picked up Gronk off the wire at the first rumor that he might be coming back… I was definitely rewarded with his return, but when It happened & I went to deal a tight end I offered up Hearst, and Let it be know that Ertz and Engram available.Also, all you fools who held onto a retired 230lb TE for a year and half to shoot out offers for 1st rounders yesterday and today... are equally trash.