ghostguy123
Footballguy
Got a similar guy in one of my leagues. Probably same guy.
He also sends me an offer every couple days with nothing on his side of the deal, my 3-4 best assets on my side, with a comment saying "I like these"
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What is the worst dynasty trade you have been offered? (4 Viewers)
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He also sends me an offer every couple days with nothing on his side of the deal, my 3-4 best assets on my side, with a comment saying "I like these"
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Wiley Tigers is the worst owner in the history of fantasy football. Can't tell you how much I hate that guy.
Zyphros
Footballguy
As a sidenote a bit, I wish FFPC had a good way of just messaging another owner and having a chat rather than trade offers. The message board doesn't work so well.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
Sugar Huddle
Footballguy
What do you think about a guy who make offers and before you can even consider them he revokes them? This has happened on multiple (more than 10 times) occasions.
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Streetduck
Footballguy
One time is a reconsideration, multiple times and I start to think he wants me to think he offered too much. A ploy to get a player at a lower value.
Shawnky
Footballguy
Zyphros
Footballguy
Could just be an accidental offer. I know I've done that before where I included a 1st, rather than a 3rd for a flier type of player.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Some people can’t bring themselves to actually make an offer that might get accepted. Like being at a restaurant, some people can’t make a decision because they may regret it.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
There was a post last year about that. Some owners intentionally do that to get you to make an offer. A couple fbgs said they do it. Seems like an owner I probably wouldn't deal with.
The take away can be effective.
I don't mind people pulling trade offers. A lot that can go into it such as working on other deals and just not wanting to leave a trade open in case the unexpected happens like out of the blue injury or arrest.
I got a bigger issue with people who won't decision a trade offer I make and just let it linger and also not a big fan of the guy who posts that player X is on the trade block and then proceeds to want massive overvalue return for him. I mean when paying over value pretty much everyone is on the trade block.
But by far my #1 pet peeve on trade talks is when I include a throw-in and if the trade is rejected the person will cite the reason as not liking the throw in/sweetener.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
I will do that to generate an email to the other guy. It's not a ploy, just easier than finding their email address and typing out all the player names and so on. I had one guy complain until I explained it, he still didn't love it but he understood. Everyone else seems to like it when I start trade talks.
Fun exchange just happened.
A couple weeks ago I traded Stafford, fournette, and corey Davis for Odell, 2020 first, 2.1 and Mason Rudolph in a 14 team superflex .25 points per carry PPR league.
Get this offer tonight: I give Odell and Nick Foles, I get Allen robinson, 1.3, 2.6 and E St. Brown.
I decline right away and say that I gave up more then that for odell so isn’t even close and not interested. Guy replies back and says “what I offered was more than that, blah blah blah” abt how it was a good offer. Made me laugh a little
A couple weeks ago I traded Stafford, fournette, and corey Davis for Odell, 2020 first, 2.1 and Mason Rudolph in a 14 team superflex .25 points per carry PPR league.
Get this offer tonight: I give Odell and Nick Foles, I get Allen robinson, 1.3, 2.6 and E St. Brown.
I decline right away and say that I gave up more then that for odell so isn’t even close and not interested. Guy replies back and says “what I offered was more than that, blah blah blah” abt how it was a good offer. Made me laugh a little
ghostguy123
Footballguy
He is actually right. His offer was a lot better than the deal you made.
The deal you made was robbery. The 1st was on the wrong side of that deal and even then I would side with OBJ
Edit....ahhhhhh the super flex does change that a bit
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Eh, he may have thought it was a better offer but I don’t and that’s the key, I’ve never told someone that no your wrong, certain people like certain guys more and this guy obviously likes Robinson and a unnamed rookie (won’t be a QB unless someone reaches for a guy other than Murray and Haskins) more then most people.
Obviously wasn’t the worst offer I’ve gotten but the comment/reply’s make it pretty bad.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
A guy in my league that was on the clock announced he was going to a baseball game and was out at the bar, I strongly considered sending him some offers...
garlicduck
Footballguy
Just offered today
I get: Malcolm Brown, James White, Mohamed Sanu, Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald
I give: Mike Evans, Nick Chubb, 2019 Rookie Pick 2.11
I thought the inclusion of the Rookie Pick was classic since I wasn't already giving up enough for this pile of crap. Oh, and we have to cut rosters to 18 before the draft...
I get: Malcolm Brown, James White, Mohamed Sanu, Vernon Davis, Vance McDonald
I give: Mike Evans, Nick Chubb, 2019 Rookie Pick 2.11
I thought the inclusion of the Rookie Pick was classic since I wasn't already giving up enough for this pile of crap. Oh, and we have to cut rosters to 18 before the draft...
Birdie048
Footballguy
Were they drunk or stoned? Did you counter offering Pick 2.11 for all his elite players saying it was fair? LOL!
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Birdie048
Footballguy
Had a funny offer today.... 12 team PPR, TE Premium
What I give up: OBJ & A Jones plus 2.06
What I get: P Rivers, Sterling Shepard and his 1.03 pick
Now, Rivers will be very unlikely to see my SL (Watson & Mayfield) and Jones is my RB3 but what makes him think OBJ's value went down?
What I give up: OBJ & A Jones plus 2.06
What I get: P Rivers, Sterling Shepard and his 1.03 pick
Now, Rivers will be very unlikely to see my SL (Watson & Mayfield) and Jones is my RB3 but what makes him think OBJ's value went down?
Zyphros
Footballguy
At least those are 2 solid items on your receiving end (while giving up a butt ton but still). Some offers in here don't even offer 1 thing of value.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Been awhile since I've posted a bad offer here but got one a little while ago. Not the worst per se, but:
I give Juju
I get AJ Brown (who I do like), McCoy, LJ Scott (I don't even know who that is - RB apparently), and a 2020 2nd.
I give Juju
I get AJ Brown (who I do like), McCoy, LJ Scott (I don't even know who that is - RB apparently), and a 2020 2nd.
Dez
Footballguy
I don't usually post here but my god this one is worthy.
I was offered Newton, a 2020 3rd and 2020 5th
for
My own 2020 1st
Another teams 2020 1st
My own 2020 2nd
Seems bad even without context which is I am totally rebuilding and will be 99.9% assured of the worst record this year so that be #1 pick in the 1st and 2nd rounds next year not even counting the other teams 1st which will be in middle of the pack most likely.
Now this really doesn't matter but for context this guy traded for Newton last week he gave up one 2020 1st projected from a team that should compete for the championship so basically that pick and my future 2020 2nd are going to be 1-2 picks apart maybe.
I was offered Newton, a 2020 3rd and 2020 5th
for
My own 2020 1st
Another teams 2020 1st
My own 2020 2nd
Seems bad even without context which is I am totally rebuilding and will be 99.9% assured of the worst record this year so that be #1 pick in the 1st and 2nd rounds next year not even counting the other teams 1st which will be in middle of the pack most likely.
Now this really doesn't matter but for context this guy traded for Newton last week he gave up one 2020 1st projected from a team that should compete for the championship so basically that pick and my future 2020 2nd are going to be 1-2 picks apart maybe.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
kutta
Footballguy
Mark Football
Footballguy
Here's a doosy.
His 2019 1.05 and 4.05
For
My Christian McCaffrey and 2.05
His 2019 1.05 and 4.05
For
My Christian McCaffrey and 2.05
wgoldsph
Footballguy
northern exposure
Footballguy
Not a specific bad trade offer, but more a question of tactics. I sent a reasonable trade offer to another owner. He didn't reject my offer, but sent an offer of his own involving most of the same players. I rejected his offer. He let my offers expire without ever accepting or rejecting them. Is this a "power" move on his part that I am unaware of?
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I rarely reject an offer. It's like closing a door. I'd rather keep it open and have him stare at it every day wondering what else he can/needs to add/change to make it work. It's also a convenient way for me to look at his list of players he's looking for to see if I can make something else work.
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cloppbeast
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Lol, the mind game of fantasy football. I usually send a lowball offer, then demand a counter offer when it’s rejected. When told the player isn’t available, I throw a fit, because that’s ridiculous. I also like to send an offer with all the reasons they should want my guy and why the guy I want might suck.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Because it's not good enough for me to have already accepted. I didn't say anything about considering the offer. I'll leave trash offers undeclined as well. All they know is that it isn't good enough or I would have accepted it.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Okay, this is worthy of posting here.... 12 Team Dynasty PPR.... I have received 21 offers from same owner in last 2 months (and I sent 10 counters).
This is a case of trying for Quantity over Quality.... and I am just not buying what he is selling. Now, I did sell him Mahomes a few weeks ago (Mayfield, Rivers, Tre'Quan S & (2) Firsts)
(# is free site dynasty trade value: Give 3187 vs receive 1373)
They offered: They wanted:
Dixon, Kenneth BAL RB (44) Hunt, Kareem CLE RB (767)
Martin, Doug OAK RB (12) Green, A.J. CIN WR (1747)
Benjamin, Travis LAC WR (6) Njoku, David CLE TE (673)
Brown, John BUF WR (142)
Williams, Mike LAC WR (1010)
Herndon, Chris NYJ TE (158)
This is a case of trying for Quantity over Quality.... and I am just not buying what he is selling. Now, I did sell him Mahomes a few weeks ago (Mayfield, Rivers, Tre'Quan S & (2) Firsts)
(# is free site dynasty trade value: Give 3187 vs receive 1373)
They offered: They wanted:
Dixon, Kenneth BAL RB (44) Hunt, Kareem CLE RB (767)
Martin, Doug OAK RB (12) Green, A.J. CIN WR (1747)
Benjamin, Travis LAC WR (6) Njoku, David CLE TE (673)
Brown, John BUF WR (142)
Williams, Mike LAC WR (1010)
Herndon, Chris NYJ TE (158)
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It's not that bad. Without Hunt it would at least be defendable, as Williams and Herndon is pretty close to Green and Njoku in dynasty.
Now everyone would prefer Hunt over the rest of that junk, but he's a hard player to value as his future is not clear.
ETA: That free sites numeric values are a little wacky as I don't see Njoku being worth that much more than Herndon. If Mike Williams continues to build on last season and with no Tyrell Williams in LA by next season he may be worth more than Green.
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He gave 2 firsts plus for Mahomes? That is the bad offer that needs to be talked about.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Sorry I thought it was bad. I like Njoku & Hunt over his offer without AJG.
While I agree the #'s are wacky and not reliable, I just look at it as benchmark ...I actually like Mike Williams and I did target him.... however, aside from Herndon, I have no value for the rest of his offer and it provides me nothing but bench cloggers. None of them would ever see my lineup.
AJ Green is my WR2 (Woods, Tyrell Williams, James Washington) so I cannot afford to part with him easily.
He just sent a new offer that included Peyton Barber TBB RB (42) and David Moore Sea WR (36) in place of Brown.....
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It’s a bad offer but this is “worst” game offer which doesn’t have to be taken literally of course but while I would reject that it at least allows the possibility of a counter offer if there’s any interest in Williams or Herndon. Most offers in here should be ones where there isn’t even any reason to counter.
Anyway I wasn’t trying to make a huge issue out of you posting it - just offering a different perspective. I’ve got plenty of terrible offers before I wouldn’t find that one offensive.
And his “counter” shows he’s willing to tweak it some.
Birdie048
Footballguy
Thanks.... no offense taken and sorry if I implied such. I recognize we all have different values and perspectives. I guess the point I was making is this same owner makes multiple "Quantity" offers asking for "Quality" in return. FWIW, he picked up D Moore Sea WR, D Martin & T Benjamin off waivers so if I had wanted them, I had a chance.
And I recognize his willingness to modify his offer in negotiations.
I read this similarly though. Age-ists likely already would want Mike Williams ahead of AJ Green. (Personally I favor Green but we’re getting close to the point where not trading Green means he’ll retire on your roster because no one will give decent value.)
Njoku is consensus-rated ahead of Herndon, so the “value” is on Njoku’s side, but I remain underwhelmed. If (unlike this case) I needed to tirn Njoku into Herndon in order to get another part of the deal done I’d be willing to.
He needs to give you someone with reasonable prospect value for Hunt...this one might have worked shortly after the video and release from the Chiefs but a lot of people are satisfied with the Cleveland landing spot and pending free agency. Hunt’s redraft value is minimal though...looks like that’s where he’s hoping to exploit a misvaluation on your part.
Njoku is consensus-rated ahead of Herndon, so the “value” is on Njoku’s side, but I remain underwhelmed. If (unlike this case) I needed to tirn Njoku into Herndon in order to get another part of the deal done I’d be willing to.
He needs to give you someone with reasonable prospect value for Hunt...this one might have worked shortly after the video and release from the Chiefs but a lot of people are satisfied with the Cleveland landing spot and pending free agency. Hunt’s redraft value is minimal though...looks like that’s where he’s hoping to exploit a misvaluation on your part.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
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