What is the worst free agent signing so far this offseason? (1 Viewer)

[twistd]

I think the Vikings overpaid for Berrian, but I'd have to go with Jerry Porter to Jacksonville. Here is a guy who is 29 years old. He's never had a 1000 yard receiving season in his career. He couldn't beat out Ronald Curry as the number 1 receiver last year. He has been the leading receiver on his own team once in his career. He's a headcase who quit on the Raiders. He has no problem throwing his teammates under the bus. And the Jaguars sign him to a $30 million dollar contract with over $10 million guaranteed. That is the stupidest signing so far this year. That may be one of the worst signing of the last five years.

 

[Ripleys]

Unless Lloyd is paying the Bears to be on the roster, he's at the top of the list.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

All these re-tread and old bucs that the Lions keep signing

 

[eric rymer]

Javon Walker

 

[NYCGangGreen]

The Jets signing Pace should be up there. They gave A LOT of money to a guy who needed an injury to become a starter and hasn't done much outside of contract years. This could be a 'wait and see' type signing, but for the money they threw at him, I think it's a huge gamble.

 

[The Shizzle]

Damien Woody or Shaun Rogers

 

[Bob Lee Swagger]

Unless Lloyd is paying the Bears to be on the roster, he's at the top of the list.

For the league minimum, it could've been worse.

 

[Keepers]

javon Walker

My vote too. Good player but too big a price tag.

 

[jurb26]

javon Walker

Good player but too big a price tag.

I've pretty much had this thought on every signing this year.

 

[3nOut]

Unless Lloyd is paying the Bears to be on the roster, he's at the top of the list.

I don't really care much for Lloyd but he came cheap with a one year contract. This signing is pretty much a non issue.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

How about Cleo Lemon who is no better than 3rd string now on JAX yet he is making $9 mill over 3 yrs? He sucked in Miami.

Also to consider......OL Damien Woody who sucked in Detroit playing inside so now the Jets think he can play TACKLE?...... Buffalo for overpaying a backup undersized DT Spencer Johnson, to start at a position where they already attempted to experiment with undersized DTs and failed.........49ers NEW DE Justin Smith, who was grossly overpaid last year and had what 2 sacks so now he goes from a 4-3 D to a 3-4 D yet they expect him to be able to handle this new position at HIS SIZE???........... Oakland's DT Tommy Kelly, who many so called experts didnt even who he was until he signed this new contract paying him $50 million??

I think ALL of those examples were much worse than anything mentioned yet.

 

[delusional]

Id say Turner.

Cant count anything Oakland does because itis a given

 

[NoCheese]

Has to be Javon and I don't think it's close. They paid full market value for a guy who has a bad knee that could be chronic.

 

[vandyt]

How about Cleo Lemon who is no better than 3rd string now on JAX yet he is making $9 mill over 3 yrs? He sucked in Miami.

Who are you thinking will be ahead of him besides Garrard?And what young QB do you think would have done well in Miami last year? Were they 1-15 because of him?

 

[vandyt]

My vote is for Joey Porter to Miami with $20mil guaranteed. Yes, I know that was last year, but god was that an AWFUL signing.

 

[wadegarrett]

Damien Woody or Shaun Rogers

Rogers wasn't a FA.

 

[mcintyre1]

Unless Lloyd is paying the Bears to be on the roster, he's at the top of the list.

I don't really care much for Lloyd but he came cheap with a one year contract. This signing is pretty much a non issue.

Ever consider that he just didn't get along with the Redskins? He definitely had his moments with SF.

 

[TheFanatic]

Has to be Javon and I don't think it's close. They paid full market value for a guy who has a bad knee that could be chronic.

I don't see it as the worst signing. The signing of Javon wasn't a bad thing. It's the K they offered him. If you found out they signed Walker for say $6 million guaranteed over a 3 year deal at say $3 million per,as a Raider fan you should be ecstatic. He can teach the young kids even if he isn't 100%. Signing Javon is good. Paying him that contract was not.

 

[az_prof]

javon Walker

Agreed. They paid this guy like he is a top WR and he hasn't produced like one on a consistent basis. He deserved a one year, incentive laden deal to prove himself like NE did with Moss last year.

 

[bcr8f]

javon Walker

Agreed. They paid this guy like he is a top WR and he hasn't produced like one on a consistent basis. He deserved a one year, incentive laden deal to prove himself like NE did with Moss last year.

To be fair he had a great year, was hurt, had another very good year and got hurt again. Consistency is the wrong word to use here in my opinion. It all depends on his knee. I think he was overpaid but don't think he is the worst player signed by any means.

 

[CanadianNFLJunkie]

How about Cleo Lemon who is no better than 3rd string now on JAX yet he is making $9 mill over 3 yrs? He sucked in Miami.

Who are you thinking will be ahead of him besides Garrard?And what young QB do you think would have done well in Miami last year? Were they 1-15 because of him?

Quinn Gray did a good job last year and it would have made more sense to resign him, but for some reason now JAX thinks Lemon is better? Obvouisly Gray goes elsewhere now.As for what young QB would have done well in Miami last year, no one and no they weren't 1-15 only because of Lemon but $3 mill a season for 3 yrs, for a stiff like him? Waaay too much.

 

[brednbuddah]

Damien Woody or Shaun Rogers

not that I would know, but there are a lot of people scratching their heads on this one. we´ll see...

 

[maxwelledison]

Has to be Javon and I don't think it's close. They paid full market value for a guy who has a bad knee that could be chronic.

I don't see it as the worst signing. The signing of Javon wasn't a bad thing. It's the K they offered him. If you found out they signed Walker for say $6 million guaranteed over a 3 year deal at say $3 million per,as a Raider fan you should be ecstatic. He can teach the young kids even if he isn't 100%. Signing Javon is good. Paying him that contract was not.

I don't really see Javon Walker taking to the mentor role.

 

[redman]

What about that Tommie Kelly contract with the Raiders? I don't know the numbers but I recall it being astronomical.

 

[AngryPatriot]

I thought I heard that Alex Smith, SF QB, was signed to a long term deal. He and Tavaris Jackson looked real bad when I saw them last year.

 

[Jason Wood]

Lots of deals will look bad in retrospect, and a few we're mocking will look good in a few years. I, for one, don't think the Jerry Porter contract is a bad deal AT ALL. He's 29 years old, has been productive (particularly in the red zone) and is an upgrade over what JAX was fielding last year at the position. Plus, he's only guaranteed $10mm. Compare that to what Andre Davis got from Houston, $8mm guaranteed; or what Berrian got to go to Minnesota (2x the money).

AS A TEAM, the Raiders are running away with the bad deals so far. They gave Javon Walker $27mm over three years (i.e., Randy Moss money) and guaranteed $16 of it ($1mm more than Moss is getting); signed Tommy Kelly to monster DT money even though he's very much unproven as a full-time 2-way tackle, and threw tons of cash Gibril Wilson's way. I'm not knocking Wilson; he's a solid safety. But they overpaid for his services based on the post Super Bowl hype.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Lots of deals will look bad in retrospect, and a few we're mocking will look good in a few years. I, for one, don't think the Jerry Porter contract is a bad deal AT ALL. He's 29 years old, has been productive (particularly in the red zone) and is an upgrade over what JAX was fielding last year at the position. Plus, he's only guaranteed $10mm. Compare that to what Andre Davis got from Houston, $8mm guaranteed; or what Berrian got to go to Minnesota (2x the money). AS A TEAM, the Raiders are running away with the bad deals so far. They gave Javon Walker $27mm over three years (i.e., Randy Moss money) and guaranteed $16 of it ($1mm more than Moss is getting); signed Tommy Kelly to monster DT money even though he's very much unproven as a full-time 2-way tackle, and threw tons of cash Gibril Wilson's way. I'm not knocking Wilson; he's a solid safety. But they overpaid for his services based on the post Super Bowl hype.

Conspiracy theorists believe the Raiders need to make bad deals in order to attract decent talent to the black hole.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

 

[rufan]

The Jets signing Pace should be up there. They gave A LOT of money to a guy who needed an injury to become a starter and hasn't done much outside of contract years. This could be a 'wait and see' type signing, but for the money they threw at him, I think it's a huge gamble.

I think this was a good move by the Jets. The reason he excelled last year was because he was finally playing in a defensive scheme that fit his style. His strengths APPEAR to fit nicely with Mangini's 3-4. I'm not saying he is not overpaid, but if you look into his deal, it is not as bad as it appears. See:http://www.thejetsblog.com/?p=3626

No way this is anywhere near the worst deal thus far.

 

[thayman]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

the amounts don't matter, it's how backloaded Walker's contract is.

 

[Jason Wood]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

the amounts don't matter, it's how backloaded Walker's contract is.

Walker is due $27mm over the first three years, including $16mm guaranteed.Moss is due $27mm over the first three years, including $15mm guaranteed.They overpaid any way you slice it.

 

[eric rymer]

Unless Lloyd is paying the Bears to be on the roster, he's at the top of the list.

I don't really care much for Lloyd but he came cheap with a one year contract. This signing is pretty much a non issue.

Ever consider that he just didn't get along with the Redskins? He definitely had his moments with SF.

My fav was the time he ducked instead of catching the ball. Sorry but that's all most people will ever remember about Brandon Lloyd. It's just like Jose Canseco. All I can remember is the fly ball that hit him in the head and then went over the fence for a home run. and yeah I know.......

For those that dont remember the Conseco clip:

 

[thayman]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

the amounts don't matter, it's how backloaded Walker's contract is.

Walker is due $27mm over the first three years, including $16mm guaranteed.Moss is due $27mm over the first three years, including $15mm guaranteed.They overpaid any way you slice it.

I agree they overpaid, but the $55 million is not a fair way to toss it out since Walker will probably never see that money.

 

[Jason Wood]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

the amounts don't matter, it's how backloaded Walker's contract is.

Walker is due $27mm over the first three years, including $16mm guaranteed.Moss is due $27mm over the first three years, including $15mm guaranteed.They overpaid any way you slice it.

I agree they overpaid, but the $55 million is not a fair way to toss it out since Walker will probably never see that money.

We definitely agree there. In fact, most of the contract numbers floating around are meaningless. I look at guaranteed money, upfront money, and how many years until escalators start kicking in.

 

[perry147]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

the amounts don't matter, it's how backloaded Walker's contract is.

Walker is due $27mm over the first three years, including $16mm guaranteed.Moss is due $27mm over the first three years, including $15mm guaranteed.They overpaid any way you slice it.

Way overpaid. How much were the Raiders pissed that Moss went to the Patriots and "found himself again" becoming the most dominate WR in the league after stinking it up while with them? Do you think this might have had an impact on how badly they wanted a dominate WR and with JW being the best one available they overpaid for him?

 

[Jason Wood]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

the amounts don't matter, it's how backloaded Walker's contract is.

Walker is due $27mm over the first three years, including $16mm guaranteed.Moss is due $27mm over the first three years, including $15mm guaranteed.They overpaid any way you slice it.

Way overpaid. How much were the Raiders pissed that Moss went to the Patriots and "found himself again" becoming the most dominate WR in the league after stinking it up while with them? Do you think this might have had an impact on how badly they wanted a dominate WR and with JW being the best one available they overpaid for him?

I think it's easy to see the process that led to Al Davis' decision; doesn't make it remotely sane.And qualifying Walker as "dominant" forsakes his injury history.

 

[twistd]

My vote is for Joey Porter to Miami with $20mil guaranteed. Yes, I know that was last year, but god was that an AWFUL signing.

I have to agree with you on that. The Porter signing was horrible. What was worse was there were other teams interested, but they paid a lot more than anyone else was offering. If I remember that signing correctly they outbid everyone by a lot.

 

[Weiner Dog]

What about that Tommie Kelly contract with the Raiders? I don't know the numbers but I recall it being astronomical.

$50mm. Former undrafted free agent who's recovering from a torn ACL. Absolutely the worst signing of the offseason.

 

[twistd]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

If I read it correctly the Walker contract is heavily back loaded. The price is pretty reasonable for the first three or four years. Teams do that all the time. Terms are released with this huge number on the contract, but in reality they will either cut Walker, or re-negotiate the contract before year five to avoid the huge balloon that is due in year five. So it isn't really as ridiculous as it looks. I'd rather have Javon Walker than Jerry Porter. At least Walker has done something. They are the same age.

 

[MAC_32]

Alan Faneca, Justin Smith, Berrian, and anything Al Davis touches.

 

[saintfool]

The Yankees keeping Alex Rodriguez might be the worst in professional sports...

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

I think my Browns way overpaid for Donte Stallworth.

 

[MAC_32]

I think my Browns way overpaid for Donte Stallworth.

You could have had Berrian or Jerry Porter for a similar rate or Javon Walker for a lot more...I'm fine with how much we gave Stallworth.

 

[No. 16]

javon Walker

Javon Walker - 6 year, $55 million Randy Moss - 3 year, $27 millionOne of these makes total sense one does not

the amounts don't matter, it's how backloaded Walker's contract is.

Walker is due $27mm over the first three years, including $16mm guaranteed.Moss is due $27mm over the first three years, including $15mm guaranteed.They overpaid any way you slice it.

Walker is overpaid (but who didn't get overpaid in FA?)... but what makes it looks worse Randy Moss is WAAAAAY underpaid. Here's a guy who broke the TD record in a season and is arguably the best WR in the NFL and in an off-season with "record setting deals" he doesn't become the highest paid WR in NFL history? Huh? How can that be?So when people compare Walker to Moss, it's not a fair comparison at all. One team HAS to overpay in order to attract talent, another team CAN UNDERPAY AND ATTRACT talent. Moss said it himself... that he took less money because of the Patriots "intangibles." As a Raider fan... I don't defend everything Al does... but the Walker signing was a good signing. Al needs to go or relinquish some power, but before we can get FA to sign for cheap, we have to overpay FA in order to build up talent and and get discount signings later on.

 

[eric rymer]

I think my Browns way overpaid for Donte Stallworth.

You could have had Berrian or Jerry Porter for a similar rate or Javon Walker for a lot more...I'm fine with how much we gave Stallworth.

Gotta agree. compared to the other WR's on the market, I've very happy

 

[dmac37]

My vote for the worst move is the one that has not happened yet.

DJ Hackett- I know about the injuries but this guy has looked great and nobody has looked his way until the Redskins just now.

 

[trader jake]

I'm torn between a few of the defensive lineman contracts that were given after they were acquired via trade. What made those even worse is that teams had to give up a 3rd and a 5th before they could even overpay their brand new underachieving fat guy.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Tommy Kelly wasn't a free agent. When he re-signed with Oakland, only they could sign him.

Jerry Porter

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Tatum Bell for 1.6 million again with the Lions.

I can see a team being fooled I guess, but to have seen him all last year and sign this guy for 1.6? I mean, seriously a 3rd round RB in this draft will be better than him.

I'm sick about this signing, the Lions are pathetic in how they manage a team.

 

[Donnybrook]

The Jets signing Pace should be up there. They gave A LOT of money to a guy who needed an injury to become a starter and hasn't done much outside of contract years. This could be a 'wait and see' type signing, but for the money they threw at him, I think it's a huge gamble.

After Javon, Pace is #2 on my list. Look at the tell of the tape:

Jets signed LB Calvin Pace to a six-year, $42 million contract. The deal includes $22 million in guarantees and a $20 million signing bonus.Bears re-signed Lance Briggs to a six-year, $36 million contract, with $12 million in guarantees.The Vikings signed Bernard Berrian to a six-year, $42 million contract, with a $16 million signing bonus. He'll get $23 million in the first three years.

I would have never guessed that Calvin Pace would have been the highest paid player of those three. All three players are 27 years old. Pace got more guaranteed money than Berrian. Are 43 OLB so rare nowdays that they deserve this kind of money?