What should the Saints do with the #2 pick? (1 Viewer)

[Jimmy James]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it. Leads me to believe Steinberg might try to negotiate for a bigger contract to make up for his 1.5 percent loss. Maybe scare some teams off?

Steinberg isn't that dumb. He isn't going to be able to get a bigger contract just because his cut is less, and he knows that. In fact, he should be run out of the industry if the amount he gets paid has any influence upon the performance of his duties. I highly, highly doubt it does.

 

[bostonfred]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

 

[Bob Magaw]

assuming the saints knew they wouldn't want to pay bentley pace/jones type of money, & franchising him would not be a viable option... all the more reason they should have been doing everything in their power to work out a new contract with bentley in advance.i agree it is a dumb rule... but if teams know they probably aren't going to want to franchise a guard, & the rules in play are known in advance, the team needs to work around them.as to the los angeles rumor... it is not a very well kept secret that league wants team in LA & is not especially enamored with benson... new ownership group would probably offer a monster profit, allowing for a win/win for everybody in 2007.

 

[Colin Dowling]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

It's true. One of Leinart's buddy's is also getting "mentored" by Steinberg as part of the deal.Colin

 

[Chaos Commish]

assuming the saints knew they wouldn't want to pay bentley pace/jones type of money, & franchising him would not be a viable option... all the more reason they should have been doing everything in their power to work out a new contract with bentley in advance.

Well, no other team is going to give him Pace/Jones money either, so they can still try to sign him. He will be the highest paid center in the NFL either way. Parcells has been known to swipe a center and pay him well. I hope he does it again.

 

[Jimmy James]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

It's true. One of Leinart's buddy's is also getting "mentored" by Steinberg as part of the deal.Colin

The CPA teaching a course on law office management I'm taking put it this way about situations like this:Look at your desk. If it's full, say no. If it isn't, take the work. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

 

[bostonfred]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

It's true. One of Leinart's buddy's is also getting "mentored" by Steinberg as part of the deal.Colin

The CPA teaching a course on law office management I'm taking put it this way about situations like this:Look at your desk. If it's full, say no. If it isn't, take the work. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

That's good advice for a CPA, where there's a near endless supply of potential customers, and word doesn't get around much. In this industry, though, why would someone pay Steinberg a 3% commission in the future?

 

[Colin Dowling]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

It's true. One of Leinart's buddy's is also getting "mentored" by Steinberg as part of the deal.Colin

The CPA teaching a course on law office management I'm taking put it this way about situations like this:Look at your desk. If it's full, say no. If it isn't, take the work. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

That's good advice for a CPA, where there's a near endless supply of potential customers, and word doesn't get around much. In this industry, though, why would someone pay Steinberg a 3% commission in the future?

Because not everyone can go in the top-4.Colin

 

[cstu]

since the Saints have a pretty good offensive line in place, along with quality talent at WR and RB, I'd go with Leinart.

That being said, I wouldn't be shocked if Leinart wanted to pull an Eli Manning and tried to force a trade by threatening to hold out. He might regret coming back to school for his senior year if he winds up in New Orleans.

Leinart has already said that he would love to go to NO

Wondering if he's thinking that it won't be long until he's back in LA again?

I have a theory that a deal is already in place to move the team to LA. WHy else would Benson suddenly become so interested in playing in New Orleans? One night, he's loving SA and hating on Baton Rouge, and the next he's openly embracing NO for the 2006 season.

I believe there is as well. Tagliabue has already made deals with the city and the Coliseum and says there will be a team here by the end of the decade and has mentioned 2008 and 2009.

 

[bostonfred]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

It's true. One of Leinart's buddy's is also getting "mentored" by Steinberg as part of the deal.Colin

The CPA teaching a course on law office management I'm taking put it this way about situations like this:Look at your desk. If it's full, say no. If it isn't, take the work. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

That's good advice for a CPA, where there's a near endless supply of potential customers, and word doesn't get around much. In this industry, though, why would someone pay Steinberg a 3% commission in the future?

Because not everyone can go in the top-4.Colin

Do you really think it's worth compromising your normal rates for all of your big clients just to get Leinart, who could easily slip to three or possibly even further?

 

[Jason Wood]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

It's true. One of Leinart's buddy's is also getting "mentored" by Steinberg as part of the deal.Colin

The CPA teaching a course on law office management I'm taking put it this way about situations like this:Look at your desk. If it's full, say no. If it isn't, take the work. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

That's good advice for a CPA, where there's a near endless supply of potential customers, and word doesn't get around much. In this industry, though, why would someone pay Steinberg a 3% commission in the future?

Because not everyone can go in the top-4.Colin

Do you really think it's worth compromising your normal rates for all of your big clients just to get Leinart, who could easily slip to three or possibly even further?

Hey bfred, I don't see how Leinart could "easily" slip to 3 or further frankly. It's rare of late when QB doesn't go 1st overall and, Bush or not, Leinert enters the workout/Pro Day phase with expectations of carrying a higher grade than Smith, Eli, or Carr.

 

[guderian]

since the Saints have a pretty good offensive line in place, along with quality talent at WR and RB, I'd go with Leinart.

That being said, I wouldn't be shocked if Leinart wanted to pull an Eli Manning and tried to force a trade by threatening to hold out. He might regret coming back to school for his senior year if he winds up in New Orleans.

Leinart has already said that he would love to go to NO

Wondering if he's thinking that it won't be long until he's back in LA again?

I have a theory that a deal is already in place to move the team to LA. WHy else would Benson suddenly become so interested in playing in New Orleans? One night, he's loving SA and hating on Baton Rouge, and the next he's openly embracing NO for the 2006 season.

I believe there is as well. Tagliabue has already made deals with the city and the Coliseum and says there will be a team here by the end of the decade and has mentioned 2008 and 2009.

The problem with this theory is that the NFL doesn't want it's worst owner running the high profile LA franchise and Benson has indicated that he is not willing to sell. He's gone as far as stating that he has turned down significant offers.

 

[saintfool]

The problem with this theory is that the NFL doesn't want it's worst owner running the high profile LA franchise and Benson has indicated that he is not willing to sell. He's gone as far as stating that he has turned down significant offers.

Exactly! Terry Bradshaw put a group together that offered to buy Benson out in order to remain in the NOLA area. Tagliabue has stated he is committed to keeping the Saints in the area. There is a greater likelihood that they will expand, I think. They have proven that LA is a poor NFL market in the past but they're determined to keep trying it would seem.

 

[bostonfred]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

It's true. One of Leinart's buddy's is also getting "mentored" by Steinberg as part of the deal.Colin

The CPA teaching a course on law office management I'm taking put it this way about situations like this:Look at your desk. If it's full, say no. If it isn't, take the work. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

That's good advice for a CPA, where there's a near endless supply of potential customers, and word doesn't get around much. In this industry, though, why would someone pay Steinberg a 3% commission in the future?

Because not everyone can go in the top-4.Colin

Do you really think it's worth compromising your normal rates for all of your big clients just to get Leinart, who could easily slip to three or possibly even further?

Hey bfred, I don't see how Leinart could "easily" slip to 3 or further frankly. It's rare of late when QB doesn't go 1st overall and, Bush or not, Leinert enters the workout/Pro Day phase with expectations of carrying a higher grade than Smith, Eli, or Carr.

If nobody is willing to pay for the #1 to get Bush, Houston may go with Young. Young has the mobility that Carr lacks, and he's a hometown guy, so there's a lot of reasons why they'd be willing to consider him. If they do, Bush would likely go #2. It wouldn't be shocking for Bush to "slide" to #3, but as of right now, I think he has to be considered fairly likely to go in the top two.

On the other hand, it there's a trade or if Houston decides to take Bush #1, #2 would have to choose between Young and Leinart. The Saints would probably lean towards Leinart, but that's far from a done deal.

There's a lot of time between now and then, but if I had to guess right now, I'd say that the #3 pick is about 20% likely to be Bush, 40% Young, 30% Leinart, and 10% "other".

 

[Statorama]

I've always felt they should select Leinart #2 if given the opportunity. He's a franchise type QB, which is one of the many things the Saints need.The more I hear about this guy personality wise though, he seems like a total jag. Now while in the grand scheme of things, most football players are likely total jags. It just seems that most of them know how to crank out the basics "I don't care what my stats are as long as we win...it was a team effort...I wouldn't be here without the great play of my teammates....". Now come on, we know the guys are jacking us around with these cliches, but even when they're winking at the camera...at least they're playing along. Leinart's kind of gruff and abrupt, but I still think he can get the job done.That said, he's just too talented to pass. I'd negotiate with him prior to the draft and let him know he'd be getting first overall type money regardless of where the Saints pick him.My prediction of what will happen:If the Saints keep the pick, they'll select Leinart and lowball him, causing a bitter holdout. What happens from that point is anyone's guess, although it ends in him never playing a down for the Saints.

 

[FFFIEND]

The Saints are a mess. I say either punt and move down or Draft Young. However, Young will only help them if they have a creative OC. Stay away from the USC pretty boy. The last thing the Aints need is a pretty boy. They either need a strong willed leader or a lot of good players. Either way, they need to clean house.

 

[Jason Wood]

I heard on the radio this morning that Leinart told Steinberg, that if he wanted to handle him as a client, that he would have to take 1.5 percent instead of the normal 3 percent. Take it or leave it.

Love to hear this if it's true.

It's true. One of Leinart's buddy's is also getting "mentored" by Steinberg as part of the deal.Colin

The CPA teaching a course on law office management I'm taking put it this way about situations like this:Look at your desk. If it's full, say no. If it isn't, take the work. 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

That's good advice for a CPA, where there's a near endless supply of potential customers, and word doesn't get around much. In this industry, though, why would someone pay Steinberg a 3% commission in the future?

Because not everyone can go in the top-4.Colin

Do you really think it's worth compromising your normal rates for all of your big clients just to get Leinart, who could easily slip to three or possibly even further?

Hey bfred, I don't see how Leinart could "easily" slip to 3 or further frankly. It's rare of late when QB doesn't go 1st overall and, Bush or not, Leinert enters the workout/Pro Day phase with expectations of carrying a higher grade than Smith, Eli, or Carr.

If nobody is willing to pay for the #1 to get Bush, Houston may go with Young. Young has the mobility that Carr lacks, and he's a hometown guy, so there's a lot of reasons why they'd be willing to consider him. If they do, Bush would likely go #2. It wouldn't be shocking for Bush to "slide" to #3, but as of right now, I think he has to be considered fairly likely to go in the top two.

On the other hand, it there's a trade or if Houston decides to take Bush #1, #2 would have to choose between Young and Leinart. The Saints would probably lean towards Leinart, but that's far from a done deal.

There's a lot of time between now and then, but if I had to guess right now, I'd say that the #3 pick is about 20% likely to be Bush, 40% Young, 30% Leinart, and 10% "other".

Hey bfred, time will tell but I see almost no discernible way that Matt Leinart falls out of the top 3. I could easiliy see Vince Young fall, because he has far more questions to answer at workouts. Whether Leinart is 1, 2 or 3 remains to be seen, but I would be stunned if he somehow gets to 3 that some team doesn't race up to grab him if the Titans aren't so inclined.

 

[cstu]

The problem with this theory is that the NFL doesn't want it's worst owner running the high profile LA franchise and Benson has indicated that he is not willing to sell. He's gone as far as stating that he has turned down significant offers.

Exactly! Terry Bradshaw put a group together that offered to buy Benson out in order to remain in the NOLA area. Tagliabue has stated he is committed to keeping the Saints in the area. There is a greater likelihood that they will expand, I think. They have proven that LA is a poor NFL market in the past but they're determined to keep trying it would seem.

LA is not a poor NFL market and did just fine for many years before a bunch of things happened to lower interest in the team:1. Moved to Anaheim in 1980. This was done mainly because of the league's stupid black-out rules for non-sellouts - despite the fact that the Rams played in the league's largest stadium which held 100,000.

2. Raiders moved into the Coliseum in 1982. Raiders' success split the fan base and combined with the Lakers' success the Rams become an afterthought.

3. The Rams were bad during the late 80's and early 90's, hurting attendance and a recession hurt it even more.

My solution? Move a team to LA or get an expansion team and keep it based in the city of LA so people don't have to drive to Anaheim to see a game, making it part of the city.

 

[helix]

The Saints are a mess. I say either punt and move down or Draft Young. However, Young will only help them if they have a creative OC. Stay away from the USC pretty boy. The last thing the Aints need is a pretty boy. They either need a strong willed leader or a lot of good players. Either way, they need to clean house.

This was the same kind of nonsense that was written when Carson Palmer went #1. Lienart has his faults, but he is a hell of a competitor (just watch the ND game) and one of the best on the field leaders in NCAA history. The Saints offense is a nice fit for Matt's talents. Next.

 

[Hawk]

They take Bush after the Texans take Young.

 

[psychobillies]

The problem with this theory is that the NFL doesn't want it's worst owner running the high profile LA franchise and Benson has indicated that he is not willing to sell.  He's gone as far as stating that he has turned down significant offers.

Exactly! Terry Bradshaw put a group together that offered to buy Benson out in order to remain in the NOLA area. Tagliabue has stated he is committed to keeping the Saints in the area. There is a greater likelihood that they will expand, I think. They have proven that LA is a poor NFL market in the past but they're determined to keep trying it would seem.

LA is not a poor NFL market and did just fine for many years before a bunch of things happened to lower interest in the team:1. Moved to Anaheim in 1980. This was done mainly because of the league's stupid black-out rules for non-sellouts - despite the fact that the Rams played in the league's largest stadium which held 100,000.

2. Raiders moved into the Coliseum in 1982. Raiders' success split the fan base and combined with the Lakers' success the Rams become an afterthought.

3. The Rams were bad during the late 80's and early 90's, hurting attendance and a recession hurt it even more.

My solution? Move a team to LA or get an expansion team and keep it based in the city of LA so people don't have to drive to Anaheim to see a game, making it part of the city.

I am not trying to bash L.A., but #2 and #3 are precisely what makes L.A. a less than desirable market. If the fans won't support them when they are down, which all teams have down years, then they will have to black out the 2nd largest TV market in the country. Seems counterproductive. If the fans aren't willing to drive a little bit for a game then WTF? That's not a strong fan base.