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What would Bradshaw score on the Wonderlic? (1 Viewer)

I saw an interview with Mark Malone talking about Bradshaw when Malone first came in the league. He told a story about a late night at training camp when Malone was studing the playbook. Terry asked him what he was doing and he told him he was struggling learning all the plays. terry told him " I can't learn that stuff, just take the snap,look for someone to throw the ball to and if no one is open, throw it high to #88. He'll catch everything.

Terry is the first to admit he was no geniuse.

 
Just wondering. I am still of the opinion that you dont have to be book smart to play in the NFL. Learning to read defenses and learning to read Shakespeare are two very different things.

 
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Just wondering. I am still of the opinion that you dont have to be book smart to play in the NFL. Learning to read defenses and learning to read Shakespeare are two very different things.
Most of the QB's who did poorly on the Wonderlic but did well in the NFL were great passers in college - Marino, Testerde, McNair, Culpepper, McNabb, and Brooks. However, Cunningham and Stewart also did poorly and did well in the NFL. Those happen to be the QB's most similar to Young, so that's something going for him.

 
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I've spoken with Bradshaw on a few occasions on USO tours and he is very sly with what he allows people to think about him. If you think a guy can be the primary leader of one of the greatest teams ever, be a staple in broadcasting for years, and be as good at self promotion as he is and not be pretty intelligent, you are sadly mistaken.

I'd bet he scores no worse than Favre (22) and likely better than average. Bradshaw is a good ole boy but that doesn't mean he's a dumb ole boy. He's as crafty as they come.

 
I am still of the opinion that you dont have to be book smart to play in the NFL.
I'm sure each team has some big playbooks with lots of pictures instead of words. And cloth pages to chew one.
 
If my memory serves me correctly, Bradshaw scored 1068 on his SATs. IMHO that doesn't make him intelligent but by no means does that categorize him as dumb.

 
Marino was what, a 14?

So I'd guess at least an 18 for Bradshaw

Marino +4

same as the number of rings

 
Terry Bradshaw has a great quote for people that think he is stupid.

"Yeah....I'm so dumb, I had to hire someone to fly my jet for me."

;)

 
I just find it interesting that everyone wants to make excuses for a guys score based on his play. I think Vince Young will do the same thing. This test is not a determining factor in how well someone will do in the NFL.

 
Just wondering. I am still of the opinion that you dont have to be book smart to play in the NFL. Learning to read defenses and learning to read Shakespeare are two very different things.
Hi TM,I dont' disagree that you must be "book smart". But the Wonderlic doesn't measure "book smart".

J

 
I've spoken with Bradshaw on a few occasions on USO tours and he is very sly with what he allows people to think about him. If you think a guy can be the primary leader of one of the greatest teams ever, be a staple in broadcasting for years, and be as good at self promotion as he is and not be pretty intelligent, you are sadly mistaken.

I'd bet he scores no worse than Favre (22) and likely better than average. Bradshaw is a good ole boy but that doesn't mean he's a dumb ole boy. He's as crafty as they come.
:goodposting: I'm admittedly biased as I live (and talk like I live) in the South and that accent and speaking style is usually dismissed as unintelligent.

We use that to our advantage. ;)

J

 
I just find it interesting that everyone wants to make excuses for a guys score based on his play. I think Vince Young will do the same thing. This test is not a determining factor in how well someone will do in the NFL.
Well, to be precise people are guesing at what the guy may have scored. He never really took the test.
 
I just find it interesting that everyone wants to make excuses for a guys score based on his play. I think Vince Young will do the same thing. This test is not a determining factor in how well someone will do in the NFL.
Well, to be precise people are guesing at what the guy may have scored. He never really took the test.
True, but let's be honest, he isn't the shaprest knife in the drawer.
 
I've spoken with Bradshaw on a few occasions on USO tours and he is very sly with what he allows people to think about him. If you think a guy can be the primary leader of one of the greatest teams ever, be a staple in broadcasting for years, and be as good at self promotion as he is and not be pretty intelligent, you are sadly mistaken.

I'd bet he scores no worse than Favre (22) and likely better than average. Bradshaw is a good ole boy but that doesn't mean he's a dumb ole boy. He's as crafty as they come.
I agree with this. He plays up his hick shtick in broadcast booth. I'm not saying hes a genius, but he plays up his dumb cowboy routine quite a bit. FWIW i hate his routine in the booth -- he acts like a bafoon with constant wood for Julian Barbierre (sp?).edit, because a typo in "shtick" turns it into "####ck"

 
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I dont know how much of it is an act and how much of it is real...... but I will take everyone's word for it I guess......

 
also, the NFL has changed drastically since Bradshaw's days in terms of preparation. It's a lot more difficult to just go in and wing it, especially for a QB.

 
also, the NFL has changed drastically since Bradshaw's days in terms of preparation. It's a lot more difficult to just go in and wing it, especially for a QB.
Right. In Bradshaw's days he had to do the salt lick, not the wonderlic.
 
He would score a 51 after using a Kirk-esque "Kobayashi Maru" maneuver to rig the test and allow him to score over the 100% mark. That's because he's the greatest QB of all-time, who played on the greatest team of all time, for the greatest franchise of all-time.

How's that for homerism? :)

 
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also, the NFL has changed drastically since Bradshaw's days in terms of preparation. It's a lot more difficult to just go in and wing it, especially for a QB.
Right. In Bradshaw's days he had to do the salt lick, not the wonderlic.
Didn't he play for the Linefork Skillet Lickers?
 
I just find it interesting that everyone wants to make excuses for a guys score based on his play. I think Vince Young will do the same thing. This test is not a determining factor in how well someone will do in the NFL.
It's only one factor. Problem for Young is that some wondered already if he could handle an NFL playbook, as the rumor in college was that they had to minimize UT's for Young because he couldn't handle the original version. It was said he eventually was told, "here are some key plays with a couple options on each, and if they don't work, improvise." Those same critics suggest you can't do the same thing in the NFL and win.So when Young does poorly on the wonderlic after critics suggested he couldn't handle an NFL yearbook, it stands out a little more.

As for Bradshaw, he didn't have that reputation in college (i.e. inability to read defenses and handle playbooks) and indeed called his own plays throughout his HOF pro career.

 
As for Bradshaw, he didn't have that reputation in college (i.e. inability to read defenses and handle playbooks) and indeed called his own plays throughout his HOF pro career.
As much as things have changed in football, that young quarterback playing today does not call his own plays,’” Bleier quoted teammate Terry Bradshaw. “‘I may be a dinosaur, but at least I called my own plays.’ What Bradshaw doesn’t tell you is that he only had four plays.”..................Bleier making reference to Bradshaw when discussing parallels between the challenges of business and football

 
For one, I do not think Bradshaw "stupid"

Second, you have a vastly different game now, than when Bradshaw played. A QB with limited intelligence might have been able to lead a group of men back in that day, while he would suffer immeasurably in todays game of a far larger playbook and FAR more complex defensive schemes.

 
For one, I do not think Bradshaw "stupid"

Second, you have a vastly different game now, than when Bradshaw played.  A QB with limited intelligence might have been able to lead a group of men back in that day, while he would suffer immeasurably in todays game of a far larger playbook and FAR more complex defensive schemes.
Actually, Unitas wasn't very smart either. Especially with regards to business after his playing days were over, sad to say. However, I would say he had plenty of football intelligence.
 
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I'm Vinc Yung and I make Bradshaw look like Albert Einstein. I usually spell my name wrong because i tatooed it where I can't see it.

I'm so stupid... :wall:

 
Ya know, I am a genius. Whenever I stumble about and get lost, I can always have someone return me to where I came from. I just have them look on my back to give the authorities my name.

 
I'm Vinc Yung and I make Bradshaw look like Albert Einstein. I usually spell my name wrong because i tatooed it where I can't see it.

I'm so stupid... :wall:
Goodbye Vinc.Have a nice season™

J

 
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