Are you seriously thinking about trading this guy for any hitters?Which hitter can i get for him right now?
Why not? His value will never be higher.Are you seriously thinking about trading this guy for any hitters?Which hitter can i get for him right now?![]()
Um, his stuff is good/great(right now).....but this is still the same guy you posted a 4.52 ERA with a WHIP of 1.335 last year.Sure he's a year older.....but his value has never been higher.You don't have to get Pujols(no one in their right mind would take that trade) but as BobCat pointed out, asking for Teix, Berkman, Utley, or Ortiz(all are top 10 hitters) is not out of the question.Unless Pujols/Santana is coming back to me, I wouldn't deal him. His stuff is as good as any pitcher in the game, and he throws heat. The only thing you have to worry about is the inning limit the Mariners put on him (200 or so).
No doubt, but he was a tub of lard last season, and that surely had some effect on his performance. I just look at a guy like Hernandez, and see Roger Clemens all over again...Um, his stuff is good/great(right now).....but this is still the same guy you posted a 4.52 ERA with a WHIP of 1.335 last year.Sure he's a year older.....but his value has never been higher.You don't have to get Pujols(no one in their right mind would take that trade) but as BobCat pointed out, asking for Teix, Berkman, Utley, or Ortiz(all are top 10 hitters) is not out of the question.Unless Pujols/Santana is coming back to me, I wouldn't deal him. His stuff is as good as any pitcher in the game, and he throws heat. The only thing you have to worry about is the inning limit the Mariners put on him (200 or so).
And he could get hurt next week. All I'm saying is he has yet to really do anything in the Bigs, other than kill fantasy teams last year.If Biggamer3 needs offense,(and it sounds like he does) I'd move him while the getting is good.Felix is good....it would take a lot for me to part with him. Obviously he will not be this ridiculous all year long, but he plays in a pitcher friendly park, with a solid defense behind him. He very well could be a top 5 SP this year, and I tend to hold those on my team, rather than deal them.
I would want ARod, Utley, Berkman, Reyes in return
I'm not sure anyone is totally dismissing that. But if we look at our (redraft) teams, and was your 3rd drafted SP, he probably has the most value out of those 3 unless you have Johan. So if you need some hitting, I don't see why moving King now is a bad idea. You could even move him for 2 very good hitters (not Ortiz/Berk/Teix type) and maybe a lessor arm.What if you have Webb, Harden and King? The first two are not bringing in top shelf hitters. Maybe that is a bad example, but it's just off the top of my head.The league I have King in is a 10 player keeper points league, so I won't be moving him at all.No doubt, but he was a tub of lard last season, and that surely had some effect on his performance. I just look at a guy like Hernandez, and see Roger Clemens all over again...Um, his stuff is good/great(right now).....but this is still the same guy you posted a 4.52 ERA with a WHIP of 1.335 last year.Sure he's a year older.....but his value has never been higher.You don't have to get Pujols(no one in their right mind would take that trade) but as BobCat pointed out, asking for Teix, Berkman, Utley, or Ortiz(all are top 10 hitters) is not out of the question.Unless Pujols/Santana is coming back to me, I wouldn't deal him. His stuff is as good as any pitcher in the game, and he throws heat. The only thing you have to worry about is the inning limit the Mariners put on him (200 or so).
I would not give you any of those guys for him if they were on my team.The dude has pitched 2 games and everyone is ready to anoint him the next Cy Young. I would be shipping him around to everyone. If people are willing to give up first round picks (Utley, Ortiz, etc) you hop all over that.Maybe struggling guys like Berkman, Ortiz, Teix, Utley???
I actually have Utley and Berkman on my team.My hitting is so so, but my pitching is lights out in a 12 team 5x5And he could get hurt next week. All I'm saying is he has yet to really do anything in the Bigs, other than kill fantasy teams last year.If Biggamer3 needs offense,(and it sounds like he does) I'd move him while the getting is good.Felix is good....it would take a lot for me to part with him. Obviously he will not be this ridiculous all year long, but he plays in a pitcher friendly park, with a solid defense behind him. He very well could be a top 5 SP this year, and I tend to hold those on my team, rather than deal them.
I would want ARod, Utley, Berkman, Reyes in return
In an answer: yesI actually have Utley and Berkman on my team.My hitting is so so, but my pitching is lights out in a 12 team 5x5And he could get hurt next week. All I'm saying is he has yet to really do anything in the Bigs, other than kill fantasy teams last year.If Biggamer3 needs offense,(and it sounds like he does) I'd move him while the getting is good.Felix is good....it would take a lot for me to part with him. Obviously he will not be this ridiculous all year long, but he plays in a pitcher friendly park, with a solid defense behind him. He very well could be a top 5 SP this year, and I tend to hold those on my team, rather than deal them.
I would want ARod, Utley, Berkman, Reyes in return
i have straight 12's acroos the pitching cats, with an ERA of 1.6 and a whip below 1, i am just due for multiple blowups![]()
My pitchers are Oswalt, Felix, Sheets,Beckett,C James,T Hudson,Greinke
so I think i can take a hit by losing felix, no?
I'd rather trade Beckett or Hudson than Hernandez. I think Felix can keep it up...again, good pitchers park, good defense, etc.... I don't think Beckett or Hudson will continue their pace.I actually have Utley and Berkman on my team.My hitting is so so, but my pitching is lights out in a 12 team 5x5And he could get hurt next week. All I'm saying is he has yet to really do anything in the Bigs, other than kill fantasy teams last year.If Biggamer3 needs offense,(and it sounds like he does) I'd move him while the getting is good.Felix is good....it would take a lot for me to part with him. Obviously he will not be this ridiculous all year long, but he plays in a pitcher friendly park, with a solid defense behind him. He very well could be a top 5 SP this year, and I tend to hold those on my team, rather than deal them.
I would want ARod, Utley, Berkman, Reyes in return
i have straight 12's acroos the pitching cats, with an ERA of 1.6 and a whip below 1, i am just due for multiple blowups![]()
My pitchers are Oswalt, Felix, Sheets,Beckett,C James,T Hudson,Greinke
so I think i can take a hit by losing felix, no?
Of course i would rather trade them two, but i cant get a solid hitter for either of them in my league.I tried with Beckett to get Adrian Gonzalez, and i was turned down, people think he is due for a blowup any gameI'd rather trade Beckett or Hudson than Hernandez. I think Felix can keep it up...again, good pitchers park, good defense, etc.... I don't think Beckett or Hudson will continue their pace.I actually have Utley and Berkman on my team.My hitting is so so, but my pitching is lights out in a 12 team 5x5And he could get hurt next week. All I'm saying is he has yet to really do anything in the Bigs, other than kill fantasy teams last year.If Biggamer3 needs offense,(and it sounds like he does) I'd move him while the getting is good.Felix is good....it would take a lot for me to part with him. Obviously he will not be this ridiculous all year long, but he plays in a pitcher friendly park, with a solid defense behind him. He very well could be a top 5 SP this year, and I tend to hold those on my team, rather than deal them.
I would want ARod, Utley, Berkman, Reyes in return
i have straight 12's acroos the pitching cats, with an ERA of 1.6 and a whip below 1, i am just due for multiple blowups![]()
My pitchers are Oswalt, Felix, Sheets,Beckett,C James,T Hudson,Greinke
so I think i can take a hit by losing felix, no?
wowwowI'd stay put for awhile if I were you. By the way, what position hitter are you trying to go after? You already have Berkman and Utley.....why are you trying for another 1b?Of course i would rather trade them two, but i cant get a solid hitter for either of them in my league.I tried with Beckett to get Adrian Gonzalez, and i was turned down, people think he is due for a blowup any game
In a 12 team league he's going to need Felix with the rest of that rotation. It's basically Oswalt/Felix and question marks. Sheets should be good but how long can he be counted on? I don't think it's all that deep a staff.In an answer: yesI actually have Utley and Berkman on my team.My hitting is so so, but my pitching is lights out in a 12 team 5x5And he could get hurt next week. All I'm saying is he has yet to really do anything in the Bigs, other than kill fantasy teams last year.If Biggamer3 needs offense,(and it sounds like he does) I'd move him while the getting is good.Felix is good....it would take a lot for me to part with him. Obviously he will not be this ridiculous all year long, but he plays in a pitcher friendly park, with a solid defense behind him. He very well could be a top 5 SP this year, and I tend to hold those on my team, rather than deal them.
I would want ARod, Utley, Berkman, Reyes in return
i have straight 12's acroos the pitching cats, with an ERA of 1.6 and a whip below 1, i am just due for multiple blowups![]()
My pitchers are Oswalt, Felix, Sheets,Beckett,C James,T Hudson,Greinke
so I think i can take a hit by losing felix, no?
We field 5 OF and i currently have Kearns and Bradley there, if i got Adrian i woulda put Berkman OFwowwowI'd stay put for awhile if I were you. By the way, what position hitter are you trying to go after? You already have Berkman and Utley.....why are you trying for another 1b?Of course i would rather trade them two, but i cant get a solid hitter for either of them in my league.I tried with Beckett to get Adrian Gonzalez, and i was turned down, people think he is due for a blowup any game
I'm sure a slow starting Soriano could be had for King...........And I would so pull the trigger on that.biggamer3 said:We field 5 OF and i currently have Kearns and Bradley there, if i got Adrian i woulda put Berkman OFguru_007 said:wowwowI'd stay put for awhile if I were you. By the way, what position hitter are you trying to go after? You already have Berkman and Utley.....why are you trying for another 1b?biggamer3 said:Of course i would rather trade them two, but i cant get a solid hitter for either of them in my league.I tried with Beckett to get Adrian Gonzalez, and i was turned down, people think he is due for a blowup any game
Adrian Gonzalez is 24 and improving. The only thing limiting him is his cavernous home park. I wouldn't trade him away for Josh Beckett either. Beckett has been too inconsistent and injury prone IMO to part with someone like Adrian Gonzalez.While Felix has a great park to pitch in, he is in the AL so he has to face a quality hitter each time through the lineup as opposed to a pitcher. Also keep in mind the Mariners aren't very good and don't have a ton of help coming in the minors. They are a smaller budget team and there are questions whether they will be able to resign Ichiro. All of that said, if you can get an Utley, Berkman, Tex, Sizemore, definitely do. If not, there are far worse things than holding onto King Felix. Barring injury it should be a great ride.guru_007 said:wowwowI'd stay put for awhile if I were you. By the way, what position hitter are you trying to go after? You already have Berkman and Utley.....why are you trying for another 1b?biggamer3 said:Of course i would rather trade them two, but i cant get a solid hitter for either of them in my league.I tried with Beckett to get Adrian Gonzalez, and i was turned down, people think he is due for a blowup any game
I disagreeAdrian Gonzalez is 24 and improving. The only thing limiting him is his cavernous home park. I wouldn't trade him away for Josh Beckett either. Beckett has been too inconsistent and injury prone IMO to part with someone like Adrian Gonzalez.
I don't think my opinions on this are quite as strong but the result is the same. I wouldn't trade Beckett for Gonzalez. Not yet anyway. A year from now, maybe the answer is a lot different.I disagreeAdrian Gonzalez is 24 and improving. The only thing limiting him is his cavernous home park. I wouldn't trade him away for Josh Beckett either. Beckett has been too inconsistent and injury prone IMO to part with someone like Adrian Gonzalez.Beckett's first two outings have shown just how dominant he 'can' be when he is on. He plays on one of the best teams in MLB. Assuming he is healthy this year, he has a great chance to be in the top 15 SP in wins, and K's...as well as be in the top 25 or so in ERA and WHIP. If things break right, he has a chance to be significantly higher, and I could see him challenging for the AL Cy Young....okay, at least runner up.Adrian Gonzalez is young and improving. However, in Petco, you cannot possibly rank him higher than maybe the 15th best starting 1B in MLB. Some would rank him no higher than the 20th best. In a 14 man league, that is like trading one of the worst starting 1B in the league, for a potential ace or #2 starter. I own Gonzalez in one league I'm in and I own Beckett in one league. I would trade Gonzalez in a heart beat for Beckett. I would not dream of trading Beckett for Gonzalez in the other. True, I'm a Red Sox fan, so I'm partially biased, and mostly crazy, but my reasoning here is fairly solid. You can't predict injuries. Beckett's injuries have been flukish...i.e. blisters. He has not had recurring shoulder or elbow concerns.
This is unbelievably dumb.So you are saying if a draft happened today, you would go 1. Pujols 2. Santana 3. Hernandez???There are probably 2 or 3 dozen players I would happily take for Felix.428143 said:Unless Pujols/Santana is coming back to me, I wouldn't deal him. His stuff is as good as any pitcher in the game, and he throws heat. The only thing you have to worry about is the inning limit the Mariners put on him (200 or so).