Whats going on with Jason Whitten? (1 Viewer)

[wtu311]

Dont really get a chance to see too many Dallas games but what happend here? Usually a top5 tight end but he's killing me so far

 

[packersfan]

Dont really get a chance to see too many Dallas games but what happend here? Usually a top5 tight end but he's killing me so far

Terrell Owens and Terry Glenn are what's happening. TO's arrival signaled strongly that Witten was going to have a decline in production. And with Glenn staying healthy and playing very well there are only so many passes to go around.

 

[culdeus]

Dont really get a chance to see too many Dallas games but what happend here? Usually a top5 tight end but he's killing me so far

Terrell Owens and Terry Glenn are what's happening. TO's arrival signaled strongly that Witten was going to have a decline in production. And with Glenn staying healthy and playing very well there are only so many passes to go around.

 

[wraith5]

Dont really get a chance to see too many Dallas games but what happend here? Usually a top5 tight end but he's killing me so far

Terrell Owens and Terry Glenn are what's happening. TO's arrival signaled strongly that Witten was going to have a decline in production. And with Glenn staying healthy and playing very well there are only so many passes to go around.

Between that and the effective running game, Witten has very limited upside.

 

[John Mamula]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.

the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

 

[jdoggydogg]

I dumped Witten from my Dynasty team for salary cap reasons. But even with a low cap number, I didn't like Witten's chances this year. This is the comment that I posted back in the Jason Witten spotlight in August:

"Witten has plenty of talent. He has good hands, good speed, and runs nice crisp routes. So the talent is not a problem. However, Witten owners will remember that his greatest peak of production came in 2004 when Terry Glenn was out for an extended time due to injury. With the arrival of Terrell Owens, Witten's targets will absolutely drop. Parcells mentioned that Owens won't catch 100 balls in this offense. We understand that this is Parcells telling Owens to temper his enthusiasm. But let's be realistic: Dallas signed Owens to catch touchdowns. And catch them he will. As good as Witten is, his numbers will be hurt by one of the biggest playmakers in football."

 

[Bri]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.

the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

Don't feel like digging up a list but I'm confident that (above scenario) TEs have received a real nice amount of TDs even if their rec stats sufferred.Bledsoe has used TEs more than most as the tough redzone pass, gotta hit someone kinda target. I remember plenty of times Coates being smotherred yet thrown to anyway. Campbell and a couple oter "no names" from the Bills got red zone targets.

I'm "let down" by Witten's lack of TDs but still believe it'll come.

As for the thread, see this article

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/15513367.htm

 

[josh]

Relax, he plays the Eagles this week - he always kills em

 

[C-Pod]

Witten's getting 5.7 targets per game - which is 9th best in the NFL.

However - his targets have been declining (8, 6, 3) with each game so far. Which isn't too much of a shock considering only 3 of those 8 Week One targets were caught.

More concerning is the fact that Witten has been targeted only ONCE in the Red Zone this season. And that was an incomplete pass back in Week One.

In the Red Zone ...

Owens has been targeted five times

Glenn has been targeted twice (both were caught for TDs last week)

The RB's have 21 looks between them so far

Three games doesn't make a season, but they can show a trend develop.

Parcells/Bledsoe are not using Witten as a TD option.

Maybe it's the Pickle Juice

 

[BassNBrew]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

If you were the dude who pointed this out to me back in spring...THANKS.

 

[Biabreakable]

Wittens only Red Zone look in week one he caught a TD. However the play was called back for offensive pass interference on Witten for pushing off. I thought it was a questionable call at the time.

Football is a game of inches. This one penalty has had a pretty big impact on Wittens season so far.

I think Witten is a great talent but he is not going to get the targets he needs to live up to peoples expectations of him unfortunitly. Not this year in this situation.

I would look for games against defenses with good cornerbacks as possible start opportunities for Witten moving forward.

 

[John Mamula]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.

the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

Don't feel like digging up a list but I'm confident that (above scenario) TEs have received a real nice amount of TDs even if their rec stats sufferred.Bledsoe has used TEs more than most as the tough redzone pass, gotta hit someone kinda target. I remember plenty of times Coates being smotherred yet thrown to anyway. Campbell and a couple oter "no names" from the Bills got red zone targets.

I'm "let down" by Witten's lack of TDs but still believe it'll come.

As for the thread, see this article

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/15513367.htm

only shannon sharpe in recent history has been on a team that was in the top half of the league in WR receiving yardage.bottom line, you will not have a TE stud with good WRs.

i have done the study with a fellow gb of mine here and it is overwhelming.

 

[John Mamula]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

If you were the dude who pointed this out to me back in spring...THANKS.

actually wilked and i had a really long post about this last year. most people didn't like the findings.

 

[Chase Stuart]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.

the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

If you were the dude who pointed this out to me back in spring...THANKS.

I don't get a lot of these right, but I remember Witten specifically. Here's what I wrote.

Chase Stuart - With an injured Julius Jones and Keyshawn Johnson on the team, Witten ranked as the sixth best TE. With a healthy Julius Jones and Terrell Owens, it seems unlikely that Witten can remain as productive. The loss of TE Mark Campbell might require Witten to stay in and block more, which would hurt Witten’s fantasy value. Witten was a stud in 2004 because Terry Glenn was injured, but the Cowboys have too many other playmakers to expect Witten to have a big year. There are several TEs that are much nicer values than Jason Witten in the 7th round.

I haven't watched enough of the Cowboys this year to say whether or not Witten has been used more as a blocker in 2006.

 

[BassNBrew]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

If you were the dude who pointed this out to me back in spring...THANKS.

actually wilked and i had a really long post about this last year. most people didn't like the findings.

So would it be fair to say comparing 06 expectations to 05 actuals...downgrade: Cooley, Heap, Witten, Denver TE, Mangum , Stevens after his return upgrade: Troupe/Schife, Watson/Graham, Franks, LJflat: Gonzo, Shockey

 

[Chase Stuart]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

If you were the dude who pointed this out to me back in spring...THANKS.

actually wilked and i had a really long post about this last year. most people didn't like the findings.

Did a quick run of the 2003-2005 data.Correlation Coefficient of team WR receiving yards to team TE receiving yards = -.-0.236. That doesn't indicate a very strong negative correlation. However, lots of the top TE seasons came during horrible WR seasons. So there might not be much of a correlation overall (indeed, there isn't), but there could still be a strong effect at the top.TeamYear combinations that ranked in the top 30 (out of 96 teams) in both WR receiving yards and TE receiving yards.IND2003IND2004MIN2004IND2005DEN2004NE2005PHI2004GB2005MIA2005NO2005NE2003

 

[crnerblitz]

WARNING: Opinion to follow. I said it before in a thread comparing Witten and Shockey for which I was roundly blasted for not knowing a darn thing, and I will say it again Because I am right just as soundly as they were wrong.

Witten IS NOT a great, or even really good TE, probably only above average at best. As a fantasy TE he is a few notches below even that.

 

[corpcow]

Witten's getting 5.7 targets per game - which is 9th best in the NFL.

However - his targets have been declining (8, 6, 3) with each game so far. Which isn't too much of a shock considering only 3 of those 8 Week One targets were caught.

More concerning is the fact that Witten has been targeted only ONCE in the Red Zone this season. And that was an incomplete pass back in Week One.

In the Red Zone ...

Owens has been targeted five times

Glenn has been targeted twice (both were caught for TDs last week)

The RB's have 21 looks between them so far

Three games doesn't make a season, but they can show a trend develop.

Parcells/Bledsoe are not using Witten as a TD option.

Maybe it's the Pickle Juice

I'd also consider last week somewhat of an anomaly since they didn't throw as much in the blowout. (Glenn had 2 TDs, but in general not a lot of yardage).I've seen him hit the wire in a few leagues... and depending on what other options i have at WR I'm definitely going to move on him. I think his production will go up later in the season, ESPECIALLY if something were to happen to Glenn or TO.

 

[Bri]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.

the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

Don't feel like digging up a list but I'm confident that (above scenario) TEs have received a real nice amount of TDs even if their rec stats sufferred.Bledsoe has used TEs more than most as the tough redzone pass, gotta hit someone kinda target. I remember plenty of times Coates being smotherred yet thrown to anyway. Campbell and a couple oter "no names" from the Bills got red zone targets.

I'm "let down" by Witten's lack of TDs but still believe it'll come.

As for the thread, see this article

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews...ts/15513367.htm

only shannon sharpe in recent history has been on a team that was in the top half of the league in WR receiving yardage.bottom line, you will not have a TE stud with good WRs.

i have done the study with a fellow gb of mine here and it is overwhelming.

not biting on sharpe line don't feel like researching it although it appears Chase did. I think you missed that I was expecting more TDs "while receiving stats sufferred"

 

[Bri]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

If you were the dude who pointed this out to me back in spring...THANKS.

actually wilked and i had a really long post about this last year. most people didn't like the findings.

Did a quick run of the 2003-2005 data.Correlation Coefficient of team WR receiving yards to team TE receiving yards = -.-0.236. That doesn't indicate a very strong negative correlation. However, lots of the top TE seasons came during horrible WR seasons. So there might not be much of a correlation overall (indeed, there isn't), but there could still be a strong effect at the top.TeamYear combinations that ranked in the top 30 (out of 96 teams) in both WR receiving yards and TE receiving yards.IND2003IND2004MIN2004IND2005DEN2004NE2005PHI2004GB2005MIA2005NO2005NE2003

thanks for doing the researchplease clarify top 30 in both WR+TE rec yards.Is it WR yards+TE yards=total which is top 30? OR is it WR in top 30 plus TE in top 30

 

[Bri]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

please explain Shockey and Plax last year

 

[Routilla]

I'm sure PHI is gameplanning for T.O. and Glenn, look for JW to have a huge game this week.

 

[oddball]

Anthony Fasano is taking some looks away from him also. Not many, but they will increase as he gets comfortable in the offense and Drew starts getting comfortable with 2 TE sets.

 

[Bankerguy]

I'm sure PHI is gameplanning for T.O. and Glenn, look for JW to have a huge game this week.

I respectfully disagree. Look for Philly to blitz Witten's side of the field. Rookie Anthony Fasano has his coming out party.I was one saying to not over-hype Witten. Since I'm tooting my own horn here, I was one of the few touting Glenn over T.O. for production.

 

[Chase Stuart]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

If you were the dude who pointed this out to me back in spring...THANKS.

actually wilked and i had a really long post about this last year. most people didn't like the findings.

Did a quick run of the 2003-2005 data.Correlation Coefficient of team WR receiving yards to team TE receiving yards = -.-0.236. That doesn't indicate a very strong negative correlation. However, lots of the top TE seasons came during horrible WR seasons. So there might not be much of a correlation overall (indeed, there isn't), but there could still be a strong effect at the top.TeamYear combinations that ranked in the top 30 (out of 96 teams) in both WR receiving yards and TE receiving yards.IND2003IND2004MIN2004IND2005DEN2004NE2005PHI2004GB2005MIA2005NO2005NE2003

thanks for doing the researchplease clarify top 30 in both WR+TE rec yards.Is it WR yards+TE yards=total which is top 30? OR is it WR in top 30 plus TE in top 30

Top 30 in receiving yards by WRs. And top 30 in receiving yards by TEs.

 

[Bankerguy]

WARNING: Opinion to follow. I said it before in a thread comparing Witten and Shockey for which I was roundly blasted for not knowing a darn thing, and I will say it again Because I am right just as soundly as they were wrong.

Witten IS NOT a great, or even really good TE, probably only above average at best. As a fantasy TE he is a few notches below even that.

Whatever....I guess all those Pro Bowl voters are wrong.

 

[jdoggydogg]

WARNING: Misinformed Opinion to follow. I said it before in a thread comparing Witten and Shockey for which I was roundly blasted for not knowing a darn thing, and I will say it again Because I am right just as soundly as they were wrong.

Witten IS NOT a great, or even really good TE, probably only above average at best. As a fantasy TE he is a few notches below even that.

Fixed...

 

[corpcow]

I'm sure PHI is gameplanning for T.O. and Glenn, look for JW to have a huge game this week.

I respectfully disagree. Look for Philly to blitz Witten's side of the field. Rookie Anthony Fasano has his coming out party.I was one saying to not over-hype Witten. Since I'm tooting my own horn here, I was one of the few touting Glenn over T.O. for production.

Personally, I would blitz the rookie not the Pro-Bowl TE.

 

[nygiants56]

I'm worried about Witten,too, buthe'll come on down the stretch...its only week 5, so I'm not throwing in the towel just yet..as T.O. plays more, defenses will begin shading to his side of the field. Eventually, they'll leave Witten in man-coverage since they need to conver Glenn and Owens, and thats when you'll see Witten do of his thing..Owens hasn't really performed well, either..his stats so far are journeyman-like..I fully expect that to change, and very soon.

also, both Glenn and Owens are injury risks, so if one of them misses significant time, Witten could be the benefactor.

 

[John Mamula]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

If you were the dude who pointed this out to me back in spring...THANKS.

actually wilked and i had a really long post about this last year. most people didn't like the findings.

Did a quick run of the 2003-2005 data.Correlation Coefficient of team WR receiving yards to team TE receiving yards = -.-0.236. That doesn't indicate a very strong negative correlation. However, lots of the top TE seasons came during horrible WR seasons. So there might not be much of a correlation overall (indeed, there isn't), but there could still be a strong effect at the top.TeamYear combinations that ranked in the top 30 (out of 96 teams) in both WR receiving yards and TE receiving yards.IND2003IND2004MIN2004IND2005DEN2004NE2005PHI2004GB2005MIA2005NO2005NE2003

let me help you out...http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=2

 

[John Mamula]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

please explain Shockey and Plax last year

where was the NYG WR corps (WRs 1-4) ranked among the league average?it is not about 1 WR.what i love about the shark pool is telling people good information without any risk of competitors actually using it.

 

[Bri]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

please explain Shockey and Plax last year

where was the NYG WR corps (WRs 1-4) ranked among the league average?it is not about 1 WR.what i love about the shark pool is telling people good information without any risk of competitors actually using it.

Ahh so you're limitting this to offenses with great 1-4 WRs and a great TE? With free agency, I'm not so sure I can even recall a team with great 1-4 WRs. Seems extremely limitting to me.

 

[John Mamula]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

please explain Shockey and Plax last year

where was the NYG WR corps (WRs 1-4) ranked among the league average?it is not about 1 WR.what i love about the shark pool is telling people good information without any risk of competitors actually using it.

Ahh so you're limitting this to offenses with great 1-4 WRs and a great TE? With free agency, I'm not so sure I can even recall a team with great 1-4 WRs. Seems extremely limitting to me.

you really need to read what i am saying. rank the 32 nfl teams' WR corps 1-32. teams that are in the top half of the league overwhelming do not have a stud TE.this then leaves you with 16 teams to look at to find TEs who have a great chance at breaking out and becoming a stud, or eliminating teams with former stud TEs who have brought in better WRs.

 

[Bri]

let me help you out...http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=2

Let me help you out, from the article YOU posted

Of the six players who scored over 100 points last year, all were on the teams listed above. This meant that by using this strategy, you almost had a 50/50 chance of taking a "stud" tight end, without even analyzing the individual talent! In fact, 8 of the top 10 tight ends were on teams listed above.

Now let's look at the individuals themselves. If you wanted to identify a tight end that could be drafted late from the teams mentioned above, this would eliminate Heap, Gonzalez, and Shockey, and to a lesser extent McMichael and Crumpler. This still left 8 teams for you to choose from, which identified break out tight ends such as Gates, Johnson, and Witten for you to draft

 

[Bri]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.

the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

please explain Shockey and Plax last year

where was the NYG WR corps (WRs 1-4) ranked among the league average?it is not about 1 WR.

what i love about the shark pool is telling people good information without any risk of competitors actually using it.

Ahh so you're limitting this to offenses with great 1-4 WRs and a great TE? With free agency, I'm not so sure I can even recall a team with great 1-4 WRs. Seems extremely limitting to me.

you really need to read what i am saying. rank the 32 nfl teams' WR corps 1-32. teams that are in the top half of the league overwhelming do not have a stud TE.

this then leaves you with 16 teams to look at to find TEs who have a great chance at breaking out and becoming a stud, or eliminating teams with former stud TEs who have brought in better WRs.

I have read what you are "saying" first you only mentioned Glenn and Owens now you bring up WR corps.You have changed it a smidge since your initial post.

The #1 passing offense (yardage)in the NFL is the Iggles right now.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PYDS/2006/regular

Only Winslow and Clark have more yards than LJ Smith

http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/TE...NG/2006/regular

You can add up WRs 1-4 stats to see if the Iggle 1-4 WR rank amidst the top so many. I'm looking at it and figuring they are

 

[John Mamula]

let me help you out...http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=2

Let me help you out, from the article YOU posted

Of the six players who scored over 100 points last year, all were on the teams listed above. This meant that by using this strategy, you almost had a 50/50 chance of taking a "stud" tight end, without even analyzing the individual talent! In fact, 8 of the top 10 tight ends were on teams listed above.

Now let's look at the individuals themselves. If you wanted to identify a tight end that could be drafted late from the teams mentioned above, this would eliminate Heap, Gonzalez, and Shockey, and to a lesser extent McMichael and Crumpler. This still left 8 teams for you to choose from, which identified break out tight ends such as Gates, Johnson, and Witten for you to draft

that article was from 2005 as i stated earlier.

you really have a bad time reading.

 

[Bri]

let me help you out...http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=2

Let me help you out, from the article YOU posted

Of the six players who scored over 100 points last year, all were on the teams listed above. This meant that by using this strategy, you almost had a 50/50 chance of taking a "stud" tight end, without even analyzing the individual talent! In fact, 8 of the top 10 tight ends were on teams listed above.

Now let's look at the individuals themselves. If you wanted to identify a tight end that could be drafted late from the teams mentioned above, this would eliminate Heap, Gonzalez, and Shockey, and to a lesser extent McMichael and Crumpler. This still left 8 teams for you to choose from, which identified break out tight ends such as Gates, Johnson, and Witten for you to draft

that article was from 2005 as i stated earlier.

you really have a bad time reading.

I'll email Ken and ask him to check into this error, according to you this "Friday, 05 May 2006" can't be right.Thanks. It's always fun debating with someone that has no interest in it and just wants to throw a theory out there and then post wise@ replies to everything posted after his theory. I would have pointed out that it's a sound theory but like any it's not absolute and flawed by a couple guys here and there but of course you never gave a debate a chance to form here.

 

[John Mamula]

please list me the TEs who are on teams with great WRs.

the fact that dallas had TO and Glenn should have been obvious that witten was going to be a bust in terms of his ADP.

please explain Shockey and Plax last year

where was the NYG WR corps (WRs 1-4) ranked among the league average?it is not about 1 WR.

what i love about the shark pool is telling people good information without any risk of competitors actually using it.

Ahh so you're limitting this to offenses with great 1-4 WRs and a great TE? With free agency, I'm not so sure I can even recall a team with great 1-4 WRs. Seems extremely limitting to me.

you really need to read what i am saying. rank the 32 nfl teams' WR corps 1-32. teams that are in the top half of the league overwhelming do not have a stud TE.

this then leaves you with 16 teams to look at to find TEs who have a great chance at breaking out and becoming a stud, or eliminating teams with former stud TEs who have brought in better WRs.

I have read what you are "saying" first you only mentioned Glenn and Owens now you bring up WR corps.You have changed it a smidge since your initial post.

The #1 passing offense (yardage)in the NFL is the Iggles right now.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/leaders/NFL/PYDS/2006/regular

Only Winslow and Clark have more yards than LJ Smith

http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/TE...NG/2006/regular

You can add up WRs 1-4 stats to see if the Iggle 1-4 WR rank amidst the top so many. I'm looking at it and figuring they are

well, considering my analysis is on year end stats, where the iggles rank through week 4 has no bearing, especially when some teams have had bye weeks.you really can't be advocating that a team who has not had their bye week yet has a better receiving corps than a team who has based on YTD stats.

i ranked lj smith #4, and i bet the philly WR corps will have a hard time staying in the top half of the league by the end of the year.

 

[John Mamula]

let me help you out...http://www.insidethestats.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=2

Let me help you out, from the article YOU posted

Of the six players who scored over 100 points last year, all were on the teams listed above. This meant that by using this strategy, you almost had a 50/50 chance of taking a "stud" tight end, without even analyzing the individual talent! In fact, 8 of the top 10 tight ends were on teams listed above.

Now let's look at the individuals themselves. If you wanted to identify a tight end that could be drafted late from the teams mentioned above, this would eliminate Heap, Gonzalez, and Shockey, and to a lesser extent McMichael and Crumpler. This still left 8 teams for you to choose from, which identified break out tight ends such as Gates, Johnson, and Witten for you to draft

that article was from 2005 as i stated earlier.

you really have a bad time reading.

I'll email Ken and ask him to check into this error, according to you this "Friday, 05 May 2006" can't be right.Thanks. It's always fun debating with someone that has no interest in it and just wants to throw a theory out there and then post wise@ replies to everything posted after his theory. I would have pointed out that it's a sound theory but like any it's not absolute and flawed by a couple guys here and there but of course you never gave a debate a chance to form here.

please do...he must have re-posted the article that day.

 

[Bri]

well, considering my analysis is on year end stats, where the iggles rank through week 4 has no bearing, especially when some teams have had bye weeks.

what a cop outyou throw a theory out there asking for such an example and I gave it. Chase took the time to do some research and your only reply is to link to an article not one comment on his research that YOU asked for in your initial post.what a wasted opportunity to discuss a theory this has been, I'm done here

 

[John Mamula]

well, considering my analysis is on year end stats, where the iggles rank through week 4 has no bearing, especially when some teams have had bye weeks.

what a cop outyou throw a theory out there asking for such an example and I gave it. Chase took the time to do some research and your only reply is to link to an article not one comment on his research that YOU asked for in your initial post.what a wasted opportunity to discuss a theory this has been, I'm done here

how can you come to any conclusions through week 4? you can't.this is more of an offseason discussion than something you can analyze through a partially completed season.gllll this year.

 

[Bankerguy]

I'm sure PHI is gameplanning for T.O. and Glenn, look for JW to have a huge game this week.

I respectfully disagree. Look for Philly to blitz Witten's side of the field. Rookie Anthony Fasano has his coming out party.I was one saying to not over-hype Witten. Since I'm tooting my own horn here, I was one of the few touting Glenn over T.O. for production.

Personally, I would blitz the rookie not the Pro-Bowl TE.

The rookie is the better blocker and plays the same side as Flo....but you already knew that right?

 

[NYGus]

Relax, he plays the Eagles this week - he always kills em

Not to be a tool but-In his career 5 games vs. the Eagles he's averaged 68 yards and 0.4 TD's.

I wouldn't consider that killing anyone.

Having a TE with WR numbers at the end of the year (Gates in '04 and '05) is RARE.

In my league, 3-5 points per game is the average TE production-it's not a point heavy position for I think it's wise to limit expectations.

 

[Ridgelake]

Lets look at the Dallas offensive philosophy. Parcells is all about creating threats to the defense from all 5 skill positions. He wants the defense to account for each of these guys every play. Once defenses commit a certain way, Dallas tries to exploit the mis-matches.

Bledsoe is a good enough QB to find the open guy, given a modicum of time. So far this year, he's generally had that with the exception of the Jax game.

Defenses this year have been covering Witten rather strongly so far this year. Especially in the red zones. He's getting blanketed there. So meanwhile, Glenn beats single coverages and he has several TDs. TO has 1 TD and 2 endzone drops. So he getting open as well.

If/when defenses decide to emphasize the WRs in the redzone, Witten will get the open looks and corresponding TDs.

A couple of other points on his lack of production so far this year. 1) He's dropped an unusual number of balls so far this year. He normally has GREAT hands. 2) He and his wife just had a baby about a week ago. I can imagine him not being his best under those circumstances. Any new parent can attest to that.