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What's Normal? - Do you fly the American flag on July 4th? (1 Viewer)

Do you fly the American Flag on Independence Day (July 4th)?

  • Yes - 'Murica!

    Votes: 47 35.9%
  • No

    Votes: 84 64.1%

  • Total voters
    131
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
As far as I know, it's not "illegal" (you're not going to jail) but some frown on it. Myself, I don't care what those people think. How dare anyone tell me the "right" way to be patriotic? I earned my spot.
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
My grandpa was a WW2 Navy fighter pilot who fired one of the torpedo's from his plane that helped sink the Yamato Battleship. He was as patriotic as it gets and his flag flew on a free-standing flagpole on his farm, day and night with no light, for as long as I can remember.

So I say, fly 'em if you got 'em.
 
I will bet my house that some nimrod will start shooting fireworks tonight in my area.
That's the next poll BTW :D
It won't even get dark before it starts :lol:
It can be much worse. I lived in a Dominican neighborhood for two years, and 4th of July lasts at last two weeks. 😂 They either love this country, or really love fireworks
I spent a week in Nicaragua about 10 years ago. It's EVERY night there. I have to believe they've never stopped firing them off since I left :lol:
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
My grandpa was a WW2 Navy fighter pilot who fired one of the torpedo's from his plane that helped sink the Yamato Battleship. He was as patriotic as it gets and his flag flew on a free-standing flagpole on his farm, day and night with no light, for as long as I can remember.

So I say, fly 'em if you got 'em.

Uh..... Thats pretty F'n awesome!
 
Uh..... Thats pretty F'n awesome!
Yeah. He was interviewed on radio about it years ago. Right after the war I think. Here's the transcript:

Soon after the sinking of the Yamato, Jack was flown by the U.S. Navy to the Marianas, where he was interviewed about his experience helping to sink the Yamato for a radio broadcast which was aired back in his hometown of Dixon. A recording of the broadcast is available at the A&T Recovery website. Here is a transcription of the broadcast:

Announcer:Dixon, Illinois, here is one of your own fighting men of the United States Navy. He's attached to a great fighting carrier, a carrier that is credited with getting the last telling blows on the *** battleship Yamato. He's speaking to you from somewhere in the Marianas, where he was flown especially for a series of broadcasts. His name: Lieutenant (jg) Grant C. Young.
Just about where did you live there in Dixon, Grant?
Jack: Well, I live in the country just outside of Dixon.
Announcer: And have any names? Call you Grant out here, do they?
Jack: Uh, no, they call me Jack.
Announcer: So your name is Grant, I suppose, huh?
Jack: I imagine.
Announcer: Uh huh. How long have you been in the Navy anyhow?
Jack: Five years.
Announcer: And I understand that you had quite a time with this particular *** battleship, the Yamato. Tell us about that now. We'll pick you up just at the point where you were about ready to go in. How was the visibility at that particular time?
Jack: Very poor.
Announcer: Take it from there and tell us what happened.
Jack: Well, through a freak I got separated from the rest of my group, and I could not attack the same ships that they were attacking, which happened to be a cruiser and a destroyer. It was necessary for me to go in on this battleship all by myself.
Announcer: In other words, you made a lone run on the Yamato.
Jack: It was a lone run.
Announcer: And no other aircraft to divert the firing. Was there a lot of firing going on at you at that time?
Jack: Very much so.
Announcer: Did they hit you with any of that fire?
Jack: Yes, I picked up several holes.
Announcer: Now as you leveled off for that long
(sic) run at the Yamato, and they were doing all of this firing, did you think you were going to make it?
Jack: No, I didn't.
Announcer: But you plowed right on through, huh?
Jack: Yeah, I went into a snake dance there, and jinxed very much here and there, and got in and out alright.
Announcer: And you dropped that fish -- did you see it hit, Grant?
Jack: Yes, I eased outside the anti-aircraft [fire] and made a circle to watch the fish run in.
Announcer: After it -- when it hit, what did the ship look like? Describe that, will you?
Jack: Well, it -- the ship lifted up out of the water and moved sideways. It just heaved out of the water.
Announcer: And then you knew there wasn't any doubt.
Jack: There was no doubt there.
Announcer: When you finally left the ship, what did it look like to you?
Jack: Well, it was burning and seemed to be settling a little by the stern. I wasn't there at the actual time it blew up.
Announcer: You think that was about your toughest run on a battleship or any ship?
Jack: I'd say that was a pretty tough run on any man [inaudible].
Announcer: I'd say you were entirely right. Any time you make a lone run on a ship like the Yamato, you're heading into a lot of possible trouble. You did a great job on that. I know the people of Dixon, Illinois, would be proud of you.
 
Voted no because we do not have a flagpole. Then i recalled that we have a wooden frame inside the house, and we put up a wooden american flag at this time.

so i would change that to a yes
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
My grandpa was a WW2 Navy fighter pilot who fired one of the torpedo's from his plane that helped sink the Yamato Battleship. He was as patriotic as it gets and his flag flew on a free-standing flagpole on his farm, day and night with no light, for as long as I can remember.

So I say, fly 'em if you got 'em.
My gramps was in the Pacific. He flew the Narragansett beer flag for the rest of his life after that.
 
My cousin puts up patriotic bunting on the porch of his 120 year old dutch colonial every year the week of 4th of July. Looks beautiful. Love when patriotism is tastefully done but not a fan of flag clothing, bumper stickers, et al. Not sure exactly why - guess maybe it just feels like it cheapens the ideals? Talks is cheap, let your actions speak for themselves.

We're NYC apartment dwellers so somewhat limited, but have a small flag on the fire escape. At federal facilities they are required to fly the MIA-POW flag below the American flag. I think if I was a homeowner I would fly both.
 
Uh..... Thats pretty F'n awesome!
Yeah. He was interviewed on radio about it years ago. Right after the war I think. Here's the transcript:

Soon after the sinking of the Yamato, Jack was flown by the U.S. Navy to the Marianas, where he was interviewed about his experience helping to sink the Yamato for a radio broadcast which was aired back in his hometown of Dixon. A recording of the broadcast is available at the A&T Recovery website. Here is a transcription of the broadcast:

Announcer:Dixon, Illinois, here is one of your own fighting men of the United States Navy. He's attached to a great fighting carrier, a carrier that is credited with getting the last telling blows on the *** battleship Yamato. He's speaking to you from somewhere in the Marianas, where he was flown especially for a series of broadcasts. His name: Lieutenant (jg) Grant C. Young.
Just about where did you live there in Dixon, Grant?
Jack: Well, I live in the country just outside of Dixon.
Announcer: And have any names? Call you Grant out here, do they?
Jack: Uh, no, they call me Jack.
Announcer: So your name is Grant, I suppose, huh?
Jack: I imagine.
Announcer: Uh huh. How long have you been in the Navy anyhow?
Jack: Five years.
Announcer: And I understand that you had quite a time with this particular *** battleship, the Yamato. Tell us about that now. We'll pick you up just at the point where you were about ready to go in. How was the visibility at that particular time?
Jack: Very poor.
Announcer: Take it from there and tell us what happened.
Jack: Well, through a freak I got separated from the rest of my group, and I could not attack the same ships that they were attacking, which happened to be a cruiser and a destroyer. It was necessary for me to go in on this battleship all by myself.
Announcer: In other words, you made a lone run on the Yamato.
Jack: It was a lone run.
Announcer: And no other aircraft to divert the firing. Was there a lot of firing going on at you at that time?
Jack: Very much so.
Announcer: Did they hit you with any of that fire?
Jack: Yes, I picked up several holes.
Announcer: Now as you leveled off for that long
(sic) run at the Yamato, and they were doing all of this firing, did you think you were going to make it?
Jack: No, I didn't.
Announcer: But you plowed right on through, huh?
Jack: Yeah, I went into a snake dance there, and jinxed very much here and there, and got in and out alright.
Announcer: And you dropped that fish -- did you see it hit, Grant?
Jack: Yes, I eased outside the anti-aircraft [fire] and made a circle to watch the fish run in.
Announcer: After it -- when it hit, what did the ship look like? Describe that, will you?
Jack: Well, it -- the ship lifted up out of the water and moved sideways. It just heaved out of the water.
Announcer: And then you knew there wasn't any doubt.
Jack: There was no doubt there.
Announcer: When you finally left the ship, what did it look like to you?
Jack: Well, it was burning and seemed to be settling a little by the stern. I wasn't there at the actual time it blew up.
Announcer: You think that was about your toughest run on a battleship or any ship?
Jack: I'd say that was a pretty tough run on any man [inaudible].
Announcer: I'd say you were entirely right. Any time you make a lone run on a ship like the Yamato, you're heading into a lot of possible trouble. You did a great job on that. I know the people of Dixon, Illinois, would be proud of you.
Chief, that is really amazing and awesome. Loved this part:
“Yeah, I went into a snake dance there……”
 
Uh..... Thats pretty F'n awesome!
Yeah. He was interviewed on radio about it years ago. Right after the war I think. Here's the transcript:

Soon after the sinking of the Yamato, Jack was flown by the U.S. Navy to the Marianas, where he was interviewed about his experience helping to sink the Yamato for a radio broadcast which was aired back in his hometown of Dixon. A recording of the broadcast is available at the A&T Recovery website. Here is a transcription of the broadcast:

Announcer:Dixon, Illinois, here is one of your own fighting men of the United States Navy. He's attached to a great fighting carrier, a carrier that is credited with getting the last telling blows on the *** battleship Yamato. He's speaking to you from somewhere in the Marianas, where he was flown especially for a series of broadcasts. His name: Lieutenant (jg) Grant C. Young.
Just about where did you live there in Dixon, Grant?
Jack: Well, I live in the country just outside of Dixon.
Announcer: And have any names? Call you Grant out here, do they?
Jack: Uh, no, they call me Jack.
Announcer: So your name is Grant, I suppose, huh?
Jack: I imagine.
Announcer: Uh huh. How long have you been in the Navy anyhow?
Jack: Five years.
Announcer: And I understand that you had quite a time with this particular *** battleship, the Yamato. Tell us about that now. We'll pick you up just at the point where you were about ready to go in. How was the visibility at that particular time?
Jack: Very poor.
Announcer: Take it from there and tell us what happened.
Jack: Well, through a freak I got separated from the rest of my group, and I could not attack the same ships that they were attacking, which happened to be a cruiser and a destroyer. It was necessary for me to go in on this battleship all by myself.
Announcer: In other words, you made a lone run on the Yamato.
Jack: It was a lone run.
Announcer: And no other aircraft to divert the firing. Was there a lot of firing going on at you at that time?
Jack: Very much so.
Announcer: Did they hit you with any of that fire?
Jack: Yes, I picked up several holes.
Announcer: Now as you leveled off for that long
(sic) run at the Yamato, and they were doing all of this firing, did you think you were going to make it?
Jack: No, I didn't.
Announcer: But you plowed right on through, huh?
Jack: Yeah, I went into a snake dance there, and jinxed very much here and there, and got in and out alright.
Announcer: And you dropped that fish -- did you see it hit, Grant?
Jack: Yes, I eased outside the anti-aircraft [fire] and made a circle to watch the fish run in.
Announcer: After it -- when it hit, what did the ship look like? Describe that, will you?
Jack: Well, it -- the ship lifted up out of the water and moved sideways. It just heaved out of the water.
Announcer: And then you knew there wasn't any doubt.
Jack: There was no doubt there.
Announcer: When you finally left the ship, what did it look like to you?
Jack: Well, it was burning and seemed to be settling a little by the stern. I wasn't there at the actual time it blew up.
Announcer: You think that was about your toughest run on a battleship or any ship?
Jack: I'd say that was a pretty tough run on any man [inaudible].
Announcer: I'd say you were entirely right. Any time you make a lone run on a ship like the Yamato, you're heading into a lot of possible trouble. You did a great job on that. I know the people of Dixon, Illinois, would be proud of you.

That’s beautiful. Just the greatest generation. Very little ego, all class. So unassuming. Just wow.

You are lucky. I’ve got a ton of my grandfathers stuff from the war and I am always in awe of those men and women of that era. I know you’re proud, and with good reason.

Also :lmao: at the Grant/Jack part of the exchange. Lol. Nicknames were very common back then. My grandfather’s name before the war was Archie. Post war he only went by “Domna”, short for Dominic, (his middle name.)

Thank you for sharing.
 
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A realtor comes to our neighborhood every year the week before 7/4 and sticks little flags in our lawns with a business card attached. I voted no.
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
My grandpa was a WW2 Navy fighter pilot who fired one of the torpedo's from his plane that helped sink the Yamato Battleship. He was as patriotic as it gets and his flag flew on a free-standing flagpole on his farm, day and night with no light, for as long as I can remember.

So I say, fly 'em if you got 'em.
My gramps was in the Pacific. He flew the Narragansett beer flag for the rest of his life after that.

Mine too. When I was a kid and proudly told other vets about my Grandfather they would always assume it was in Europe. When I said he was in the Pacific on Guadalcanal, every last one of them would let out an audible “oooo” and would add how nasty the condition were or how brutal it was over there.


We’re all lucky to be having this conversation.
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
My grandpa was a WW2 Navy fighter pilot who fired one of the torpedo's from his plane that helped sink the Yamato Battleship. He was as patriotic as it gets and his flag flew on a free-standing flagpole on his farm, day and night with no light, for as long as I can remember.

So I say, fly 'em if you got 'em.
My gramps was in the Pacific. He flew the Narragansett beer flag for the rest of his life after that.

Mine too. When I was a kid and proudly told other vets about my Grandfather they would always assume it was in Europe. When I said he was in the Pacific on Guadalcanal, every last one of them would let out an audible “oooo” and would add how nasty the condition were or how brutal it was over there.


We’re all lucky to be having this conversation.
Guadalcanal also, according to my aunt. I have also been told he was Iwo Jima and Okinawa. I wish he was still alive so I could hear exactly where he was. He would never talk about it when I was a kid. He was seriously messed up from it all unfortunately.
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
My grandpa was a WW2 Navy fighter pilot who fired one of the torpedo's from his plane that helped sink the Yamato Battleship. He was as patriotic as it gets and his flag flew on a free-standing flagpole on his farm, day and night with no light, for as long as I can remember.

So I say, fly 'em if you got 'em.
My gramps was in the Pacific. He flew the Narragansett beer flag for the rest of his life after that.

Mine too. When I was a kid and proudly told other vets about my Grandfather they would always assume it was in Europe. When I said he was in the Pacific on Guadalcanal, every last one of them would let out an audible “oooo” and would add how nasty the condition were or how brutal it was over there.


We’re all lucky to be having this conversation.
Guadalcanal also, according to my aunt. I have also been told he was Iwo Jima and Okinawa. I wish he was still alive so I could hear exactly where he was. He would never talk about it when I was a kid. He was seriously messed up from it all unfortunately.

Same. Tried to talk to him but I asked poorly worded questions like “ So what was the war like?” (Idiot! :lmao: )

The was the first and only time I ever saw Pop cry.

I started a thread here a while back and shared some of it. I have about 50 of his letters sent back to his wife and more than half of them mention looking for beer lol.

If you know which unit he was in I might be able to help you. I’ve paused my quest to track where my grandfather was but I’ll happily look into your grandfathers unit for ya the next time I break out the boxes.

Pop was with the Americal division, 57th combat engineer battalion - Guadalcanal, then it gets hazy but it seems to be they hit Lyte, Bougainville and Fiji.

I have a deck of playing cards with his hand written words” from DC to Fiji and back”
 
I don't personally fly one, but my neighbor always asks if he can put out the small ones lining our street. I have no problem with that.
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
My grandpa was a WW2 Navy fighter pilot who fired one of the torpedo's from his plane that helped sink the Yamato Battleship. He was as patriotic as it gets and his flag flew on a free-standing flagpole on his farm, day and night with no light, for as long as I can remember.

So I say, fly 'em if you got 'em.
My gramps was in the Pacific. He flew the Narragansett beer flag for the rest of his life after that.

Mine too. When I was a kid and proudly told other vets about my Grandfather they would always assume it was in Europe. When I said he was in the Pacific on Guadalcanal, every last one of them would let out an audible “oooo” and would add how nasty the condition were or how brutal it was over there.


We’re all lucky to be having this conversation.
Guadalcanal also, according to my aunt. I have also been told he was Iwo Jima and Okinawa. I wish he was still alive so I could hear exactly where he was. He would never talk about it when I was a kid. He was seriously messed up from it all unfortunately.

Same. Tried to talk to him but I asked poorly worded questions like “ So what was the war like?” (Idiot! :lmao: )

The was the first and only time I ever saw Pop cry.

I started a thread here a while back and shared some of it. I have about 50 of his letters sent back to his wife and more than half of them mention looking for beer lol.

If you know which unit he was in I might be able to help you. I’ve paused my quest to track where my grandfather was but I’ll happily look into your grandfathers unit for ya the next time I break out the boxes.

Pop was with the Americal division, 57th combat engineer battalion - Guadalcanal, then it gets hazy but it seems to be they hit Lyte, Bougainville and Fiji.

I have a deck of playing cards with his hand written words” from DC to Fiji and back”

My dad was too young for WWII or Korean, too old / had 4 kids by the time Vietnam happened. But all five of his siblings - AND all five of his siblings spouses - served during WWII. I was closest to my Uncle Rod, who flew 30 missions as a tailgunner in a B-17 with the 8th Army Air Force in Britain. He told me a few stories. The other four uncles all served in the Pacific, three in the Marines. Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Saipan, Tinian, Okinawa - none of them would talk about it. "It was pretty bad...[shrug]...somebody had to do it." was about all they would say. All my aunts served stateside as WACs and Waves. My aunt telling me about the V-J celebrations in San Francisco was the only story I heard from any of them.
 
Same. Tried to talk to him but I asked poorly worded questions like “ So what was the war like?” (Idiot! :lmao: )

The was the first and only time I ever saw Pop cry.

I started a thread here a while back and shared some of it. I have about 50 of his letters sent back to his wife and more than half of them mention looking for beer lol.

If you know which unit he was in I might be able to help you. I’ve paused my quest to track where my grandfather was but I’ll happily look into your grandfathers unit for ya the next time I break out the boxes.

Pop was with the Americal division, 57th combat engineer battalion - Guadalcanal, then it gets hazy but it seems to be they hit Lyte, Bougainville and Fiji.

I have a deck of playing cards with his hand written words” from DC to Fiji and back”
My grandfather LOVED to talk about it. And talk about it he did. He frequently was a guest at the schools in his little town in Illinois when the kids needed a real life history lesson. He would give speeches to groups and go to squadron reunions with his men and swap stories. And could remember these stories in great detail - down to the color shirt a guy was wearing when they were walking down a street in Italy 50 years before. It was amazing.

Before he died I asked him to type up a list of all the places he served down to his squadrons and groups and everything.

One of my favorite stories of his was at his funeral. A man comes up to me and he was wearing a Navy hat - one of the kinds you see veterans wear all the time. He looks at me, tears welling up in his eyes, and says to me:

"I wouldn't be standing here today without your Grandpa helping me. We were in a bad way in a fight and I was all shot up, but my plane could operate. Your grandfather found me and guided me back to the air craft carrier. He always did that for us men. He never came back unless we were all accounted for."
 
Same. Tried to talk to him but I asked poorly worded questions like “ So what was the war like?” (Idiot! :lmao: )

The was the first and only time I ever saw Pop cry.

I started a thread here a while back and shared some of it. I have about 50 of his letters sent back to his wife and more than half of them mention looking for beer lol.

If you know which unit he was in I might be able to help you. I’ve paused my quest to track where my grandfather was but I’ll happily look into your grandfathers unit for ya the next time I break out the boxes.

Pop was with the Americal division, 57th combat engineer battalion - Guadalcanal, then it gets hazy but it seems to be they hit Lyte, Bougainville and Fiji.

I have a deck of playing cards with his hand written words” from DC to Fiji and back”
My grandfather LOVED to talk about it. And talk about it he did. He frequently was a guest at the schools in his little town in Illinois when the kids needed a real life history lesson. He would give speeches to groups and go to squadron reunions with his men and swap stories. And could remember these stories in great detail - down to the color shirt a guy was wearing when they were walking down a street in Italy 50 years before. It was amazing.

Before he died I asked him to type up a list of all the places he served down to his squadrons and groups and everything.

One of my favorite stories of his was at his funeral. A man comes up to me and he was wearing a Navy hat - one of the kinds you see veterans wear all the time. He looks at me, tears welling up in his eyes, and says to me:

"I wouldn't be standing here today without your Grandpa helping me. We were in a bad way in a fight and I was all shot up, but my plane could operate. Your grandfather found me and guided me back to the air craft carrier. He always did that for us men. He never came back unless we were all accounted for."


That’s great! GB Jack!

I just remembered, he would talk with his”war buddies” at the mall or when he would let me tag along to McDonalds or Roy Rogers. Back in those days all the vets would congregate everywhere and swap stories. I was just not old/wise enough to pay attention.
 
We have a bunny flag flying. I thought it was illegal to fly a US flag at night unless it has a spotlight or something? I know there are lots of rules, but don't know what they are.
My grandpa was a WW2 Navy fighter pilot who fired one of the torpedo's from his plane that helped sink the Yamato Battleship. He was as patriotic as it gets and his flag flew on a free-standing flagpole on his farm, day and night with no light, for as long as I can remember.

So I say, fly 'em if you got 'em.
My gramps was in the Pacific. He flew the Narragansett beer flag for the rest of his life after that.

Mine too. When I was a kid and proudly told other vets about my Grandfather they would always assume it was in Europe. When I said he was in the Pacific on Guadalcanal, every last one of them would let out an audible “oooo” and would add how nasty the condition were or how brutal it was over there.


We’re all lucky to be having this conversation.
Guadalcanal also, according to my aunt. I have also been told he was Iwo Jima and Okinawa. I wish he was still alive so I could hear exactly where he was. He would never talk about it when I was a kid. He was seriously messed up from it all unfortunately.

Same. Tried to talk to him but I asked poorly worded questions like “ So what was the war like?” (Idiot! :lmao: )

The was the first and only time I ever saw Pop cry.

I started a thread here a while back and shared some of it. I have about 50 of his letters sent back to his wife and more than half of them mention looking for beer lol.

If you know which unit he was in I might be able to help you. I’ve paused my quest to track where my grandfather was but I’ll happily look into your grandfathers unit for ya the next time I break out the boxes.

Pop was with the Americal division, 57th combat engineer battalion - Guadalcanal, then it gets hazy but it seems to be they hit Lyte, Bougainville and Fiji.

I have a deck of playing cards with his hand written words” from DC to Fiji and back”
What state was he? My gramps was James McElroy providence RI. He initially lied about his birthday and he went in at 16. That's where the confusion starts. I'll try and get more info from my aunt asap. Thx!

He was also in Korea.
 

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