Whats The Play Here? (1 Viewer)

[Cjw_55106]

I have been told that my old boss is retiring Jan 2 of next year, although it is not common knowledge and he hasn’t told me. He just told me he's gathering information at this point, but I know he's definitely retiring. He is the facilities supervisor.



I'd love to apply for his job, but a few years back, we had a facilities engineer position opened and he wanted to train me for the job but upper management said they wanted someone with experience. Clearly I don’t know nearly enough about the building facilities to be considered for his job (I do IT work now).



In any case, my issue is this; There are about 4 months between his retirement and now. IMO, that is enough time for him to train me for his job and I’m sure he'd be willing to do so. The issue is, I can’t really bring it up to his boss or even him because I am not supposed to know that he already has a retirement date. Not to mention the fact that even with four months of training, upper management might not be willing to give me the job.



What would you do at this point? It kills me to just let it go as I see it as both a 25% pay raise and a stepping stone to my ultimate goal at this company. The woman that is in my ultimate job is in her upper 50's so if I could land his job for the next 5 years, I would be a serious contender for the position when she leaves.



What's the play?

Worth mentioning; the current facilities engineer isnt interested in any type of management position and it basically the two of them doing all of the facilities type work.

 

[eoMMan]

Is it an issue where you don't have enough education or just not enough experience?

Either way, you'll need to just grind it out. Go back to school if need be but if you simply don't have the years of experience they want, there's not much you can do other than doing an awesome job at your current position.

 

[Bucky86]

Blackmail is your only option.

 

[eoMMan]

Blackmail is your only option.

You might like sleep with him?

 

[El Floppo]

Blackmail is your only option.

before wife-sleeping?

 

[Dan Gladden's Mustache]

How did you find out the definite retirement info?

 

[Cjw_55106]

Is it an issue where you don't have enough education or just not enough experience?

Either way, you'll need to just grind it out. Go back to school if need be but if you simply don't have the years of experience they want, there's not much you can do other than doing an awesome job at your current position.

I have no education or experience with it. I know how that sounds, but the guy retiring doesn't think it's necessary. I'd like to do the training without the upper folks even knowing and after the four months, I feel I would know everything necessary for the job. The issue is, his retirement is under wraps for some unknown reason which makes training a little tougher.

 

[Cjw_55106]

How did you find out the definite retirement info?

He told his boss, who has a big fricken mouth.

 

[Ned]

why didn't you just text her back a pic of your dong?

 

[Dan Gladden's Mustache]

How did you find out the definite retirement info?

He told his boss, who has a big fricken mouth.

Then just tell him that you know and what you want to do. What's the big deal?

 

[Cjw_55106]

How did you find out the definite retirement info?

He told his boss, who has a big fricken mouth.

Then just tell him that you know and what you want to do. What's the big deal?

The big deal is that he doesn't want people to know for some reason. I respect him and I won't try to force it out of him.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

if you're tight with him, just ask him if he would consider "mentoring" you in what he does. you don't need to tell him that you know he's given his date. if he sees you as a potential replacement, he should be willing to help you out.

 

[chet]

What do you want more?

a) the respect of the retiring guy whom you won't ever see again in 4 months; or

b) his job which you view as a stepping stone in your career.

 

[Bucky86]

If you killed him, would you be the first person to take over his job?

 

[Cjw_55106]

What do you want more?

a) the respect of the retiring guy whom you won't ever see again in 4 months; or

b) his job which you view as a stepping stone in your career.

I was hoping for a viable third option that included both. I think Maik is probably on the right track. That being said, I think it would need to be formal if I planned to use it as an argument for the job.

 

[Cjw_55106]

If you killed him, would you be the first person to take over his job?

Today, no. Maybe in three months if everything plays out the way I'd like.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

What do you want more?

a) the respect of the retiring guy whom you won't ever see again in 4 months; or

b) his job which you view as a stepping stone in your career.

I was hoping for a viable third option that included both. I think Maik is probably on the right track. That being said, I think it would need to be formal if I planned to use it as an argument for the job.

when he does finally say he's retiring, ask him for a recommendation.

 

[bushdocda]

Seems to me that if you were in consideration for this role you would already have had this conversation with the people.

At this point take the direct route and find out from your boss what his plans are and find a way to be a part of them.

 

[Bucky86]

Sleep with the woman that has the job you want. Then blackmail HER.

 

[xulf]

How did you find out the definite retirement info?

He told his boss, who has a big fricken mouth.

Then just tell him that you know and what you want to do. What's the big deal?

 

[Steve in Minneapolis]

Given that he is your old boss, I would ask if he has time for a coffee/beer/meeting because you would like his advice on something. Assuming it works with his style, I think the more informal/conversational the setting the better.

Tell him you are interested in continuing the dialogue you guys had in the past about transitioning into a facilities-type role. Acknowledge that based on those previous discussions with leadership, you know you need more expereince to be considered as a viable option on his team... Then you ask him for his help: "I am willing to do my current job PLUS any side projects/work that you might have that you could hand off to me or that we could work on together."

At several of my previous employers, the best way to show you could do the next job was to simply start doing it.

Good luck...

 

[Chemical X]

this job is already earmarked for someone else. if they wanted you for it, you would know.