What's wrong with the Bears? (1 Viewer)

[TD5150]

First the Bears make a huge mistake and re-sign Grossman. Now they extend Orton for another year??

I 100% agree that they should give him a chance to show what he can do but he has done nothing so far to warrant a contract extension. Are they really that worried that he will tear up the league in 2008 and they won't be able to re-sign him in 2009?

Come on this is Kyle Orton we are talking about.

I love my Bears but they have not had a solid QB since E. Kramer, and before that it was J. McMahon and neither one of those guys were that great anyway.

How can you go so long with out making a good decision at QB? You would think the rule of averages would hit at least once over the last 30 years, it's like they are trying to sign and draft bums!

 

[Fear & Loathing]

The Bears of the Angelo/Lovie Smith era have been the worst judges of offensive talent I've ever seen . . . and I grew in Cincinnati during the 90s.

The Bears have absolutely no clue on offensive talent. It's almost they've Jedi Mind-Tricked themselves into believing they know what they're doing.

 

[travdogg]

Remember when the Bears traded a top-10 pick for Rick Mirer after Mirer had already washed out of Seattle. Or that time they traded a 1st rounder for Steve Walsh when they already had Kramer. Or trading down to select McNown when they could have stayed put and gotten Champ Bailey.

All of those things happened in the last 15 years, so I can't knock the current front office too much. I'm just glad they didn't try to trade their 1st rounder for Alex Smith!

Edit to add: Grossman is actually probably the best QB they've had in the last ten years.

 

[Rumblefish]

I'm just glad they didn't try to trade their 1st rounder for Alex Smith!

The off-season is still young . . .

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

The Bears of the Angelo/Lovie Smith era have been the worst judges of offensive talent I've ever seen . . . and I grew in Cincinnati during the 90s.The Bears have absolutely no clue on offensive talent. It's almost they've Jedi Mind-Tricked themselves into believing they know what they're doing.

Greg Olsen may fly in the face of this theory, but letting the only good WR they have (Berrian) walk would certainly offset that move.This also seems to be a great place to remind all Bears fans that they traded the 12th overall pick for Rick Mirer in 1997. They then passed on Jake Plummer, the best QB of that draft, with their 2nd round pick. For the record, pick 12 in 97 was a bust in Micheal Booker CB, but with the 13th pick Warrick Dunn went to Tampa, and the 14th pick was Tony Gonzalez going to KC.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Remember when the Bears traded a top-10 pick for Rick Mirer after Mirer had already washed out of Seattle. Or that time they traded a 1st rounder for Steve Walsh when they already had Kramer. Or trading down to select McNown when they could have stayed put and gotten Champ Bailey.All of those things happened in the last 15 years, so I can't knock the current front office too much. I'm just glad they didn't try to trade their 1st rounder for Alex Smith!Edit to add: Grossman is actually probably the best QB they've had in the last ten years.

When did they trade a 1st round pick for Steve Walsh?The champ Bailey trade....actually added Warrick Holdman and Rosey Colvin to the roster as well as Cade McNown....makes it seem better.

 

[travdogg]

Remember when the Bears traded a top-10 pick for Rick Mirer after Mirer had already washed out of Seattle. Or that time they traded a 1st rounder for Steve Walsh when they already had Kramer. Or trading down to select McNown when they could have stayed put and gotten Champ Bailey.All of those things happened in the last 15 years, so I can't knock the current front office too much. I'm just glad they didn't try to trade their 1st rounder for Alex Smith!Edit to add: Grossman is actually probably the best QB they've had in the last ten years.

When did they trade a 1st round pick for Steve Walsh?The champ Bailey trade....actually added Warrick Holdman and Rosey Colvin to the roster as well as Cade McNown....makes it seem better.

Whoops! Sorry that was NO who traded a 1st for Walsh then they cut him and he signed in Chicago, my mistake.Question: Who do you think has been the Bears worst offensive draft pick over the last decade factoring in who they passed on?

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Remember when the Bears traded a top-10 pick for Rick Mirer after Mirer had already washed out of Seattle. Or that time they traded a 1st rounder for Steve Walsh when they already had Kramer. Or trading down to select McNown when they could have stayed put and gotten Champ Bailey.All of those things happened in the last 15 years, so I can't knock the current front office too much. I'm just glad they didn't try to trade their 1st rounder for Alex Smith!Edit to add: Grossman is actually probably the best QB they've had in the last ten years.

When did they trade a 1st round pick for Steve Walsh?The champ Bailey trade....actually added Warrick Holdman and Rosey Colvin to the roster as well as Cade McNown....makes it seem better.

Whoops! Sorry that was NO who traded a 1st for Walsh then they cut him and he signed in Chicago, my mistake.Question: Who do you think has been the Bears worst offensive draft pick over the last decade factoring in who they passed on?

The worst one was Rick Mirer......b/c we passed up Walter Jones.Next was Enis at #5 overall.....we should've traded down with the Jags to get #9 and 25....they got Fred Taylor and Donovan Darius with those two picks.

 

[Tibereas]

Remember when the Bears traded a top-10 pick for Rick Mirer after Mirer had already washed out of Seattle. Or that time they traded a 1st rounder for Steve Walsh when they already had Kramer. Or trading down to select McNown when they could have stayed put and gotten Champ Bailey.All of those things happened in the last 15 years, so I can't knock the current front office too much. I'm just glad they didn't try to trade their 1st rounder for Alex Smith!Edit to add: Grossman is actually probably the best QB they've had in the last ten years.

When did they trade a 1st round pick for Steve Walsh?The champ Bailey trade....actually added Warrick Holdman and Rosey Colvin to the roster as well as Cade McNown....makes it seem better.

Whoops! Sorry that was NO who traded a 1st for Walsh then they cut him and he signed in Chicago, my mistake.Question: Who do you think has been the Bears worst offensive draft pick over the last decade factoring in who they passed on?

The worst one was Rick Mirer......b/c we passed up Walter Jones.Next was Enis at #5 overall.....we should've traded down with the Jags to get #9 and 25....they got Fred Taylor and Donovan Darius with those two picks.

I say it was D.Terrell in 01 @ 1.08 but who can forget the R.Salaam reach in 95.

 

[LHUCKS]

If they don't add another QB...I really don't understand.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Remember when the Bears traded a top-10 pick for Rick Mirer after Mirer had already washed out of Seattle. Or that time they traded a 1st rounder for Steve Walsh when they already had Kramer. Or trading down to select McNown when they could have stayed put and gotten Champ Bailey.All of those things happened in the last 15 years, so I can't knock the current front office too much. I'm just glad they didn't try to trade their 1st rounder for Alex Smith!Edit to add: Grossman is actually probably the best QB they've had in the last ten years.

When did they trade a 1st round pick for Steve Walsh?The champ Bailey trade....actually added Warrick Holdman and Rosey Colvin to the roster as well as Cade McNown....makes it seem better.

Whoops! Sorry that was NO who traded a 1st for Walsh then they cut him and he signed in Chicago, my mistake.Question: Who do you think has been the Bears worst offensive draft pick over the last decade factoring in who they passed on?

The worst one was Rick Mirer......b/c we passed up Walter Jones.Next was Enis at #5 overall.....we should've traded down with the Jags to get #9 and 25....they got Fred Taylor and Donovan Darius with those two picks.

I say it was D.Terrell in 01 @ 1.08 but who can forget the R.Salaam reach in 95.

Terrell was talented it was Jauron's fault for starting Dez White all those years.Salaam went for 1,074 his rookie year......he was picked 19th....how is that a bust?

 

[Pictus Cat]

Why hasn't Chicago signed a QB like Manning, Brady, Romo....

Why haven't the other 25ish teams in the country?

Don't they know how much more important Chicago teams are than all the other teams in the country that they should just let us have all the top players we want?

Rex is our QB. He is the best one available to us right now.

GO BEARS!!!

- Bears fan

PS: Can't wait to see this type of thread come up for the rest of my life again and again.

 

[Mikey16x]

Rex Grossman isn't the best QB available at this point.. isn't chris weinke a FA.. im sure you can pull testaverde out of retirement... how about aaron brooks?.... i think i would rather have any one of those 3 at the helm before rex

 

[DoubleG]

Rex Grossman isn't the best QB available at this point.. isn't chris weinke a FA.. im sure you can pull testaverde out of retirement... how about aaron brooks?.... i think i would rather have any one of those 3 at the helm before rex

The fact of the matter is Rex Grossman was one of the best FA QBs available. Three things:1) Look at his stats from the first half of 2006. 2) Look at his stats after retruning from being benched.3) Compare those to anyone you mentioned (or anyone they could have signed for anywhere near $3 million base)The offseason is young. I still fully expect the Bears to draft O-line early to actually protect the QB this year (even the great Tom Brady looked fairly pedestrian with a pass rush in his face - and no, I'm comparing Rex to Brady). They actualy saved money by resigning Rex - hopefully money that will be spent on FA RB or WR.

 

[gdg76]

Rex was the best option for 2008. Rex ain't great, but the horrible O-line play, Turner's inept playcalling, a primadonna RB, and a ton of drops on well thrown balls is not exactly an environment for a QB to thrive.

Ideally, we would get another deep ball threat to replace Berrian and make Olsen and Clark a focus of the offense, leaving the WRs able to make plays downfield. Then, we would need either Benson to be half the player they expected or Adrian Peterson to grind it out to keep the long drives going.

Biggest needs are Oline, WR then QB IMO so Rex is fine. Without the first two, any other QB is destined to fail.

But this is the Bears, most likely we will draft 5 defensive guys with the first 5 picks then hope we find a QB in rd 6 or 7

 

[redman]

I still think Grossman can become a good NFL QB.

 

[flapgreen]

no

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I still think Grossman can become a good NFL QB.

As Do I.

 

[3nOut]

First the Bears make a huge mistake and re-sign Grossman. Now they extend Orton for another year??I 100% agree that they should give him a chance to show what he can do but he has done nothing so far to warrant a contract extension. Are they really that worried that he will tear up the league in 2008 and they won't be able to re-sign him in 2009?Come on this is Kyle Orton we are talking about.I love my Bears but they have not had a solid QB since E. Kramer, and before that it was J. McMahon and neither one of those guys were that great anyway.How can you go so long with out making a good decision at QB? You would think the rule of averages would hit at least once over the last 30 years, it's like they are trying to sign and draft bums!

Actually, I think this was a good decision. What were the other options? I still believe the Bears will address the QB situation during the draft, but what the resigning of both QBs at a very similar price tag (almost identical) levels out the playing field and at least on a high level makes it an open competition. I thought that Rex would be handed the job, but at least now I think Orton has a better chance to fight for the job. At least noone can say the winner of the competition is playing soley becasue he earns more than the other.

 

[Chadstroma]

In a word..... no.

 

[saintfool]

this will likely be the last year for grossman. griese will be cut. orton provides continuity going into next year.

ETA: bears fans will feel better, i think, once the bears draft joe flacco. at east you'll feel like there is a plan in place.

 

[plymkr]

What's wrong with the Bears?

Man this could be a long thread.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

First the Bears make a huge mistake and re-sign Grossman. Now they extend Orton for another year??I 100% agree that they should give him a chance to show what he can do but he has done nothing so far to warrant a contract extension. Are they really that worried that he will tear up the league in 2008 and they won't be able to re-sign him in 2009?Come on this is Kyle Orton we are talking about.I love my Bears but they have not had a solid QB since E. Kramer, and before that it was J. McMahon and neither one of those guys were that great anyway.How can you go so long with out making a good decision at QB? You would think the rule of averages would hit at least once over the last 30 years, it's like they are trying to sign and draft bums!

I understand your pain, but i'm not going to feel too bad for you here because your team went to the SB just 2 years ago and has won one before. The Detroit Lions have won, one playoff game in SB history back in the early 90's, a home victory over Dallas. Other than that, 40 years of garbage. So, the complaining only carries so much weight with this Detroiter.However, let's deal with this situation. After the complaining about Rex and Orton, who did you really want them to bring in? I'm not sure who's really out there that you feel would improve this team at QB. I don't think Rex was signed to soem LONG term contract. He basically singed another year (and I think part of it is performance based) to either finally see some significant improvment or maybe play as a backup to Orton, who did win a couple ballgames at the end of last season. I don't see them bringing in another QB in terms of challening to start the season, I'd be surprised. Whether we agree or not with them, their front office is at least lipspeaking that they're confident in the Qb's that they currently have. I'm looking forard to seeing Orton compete actually.

 

[Max Power]

Once D. Anderson agrees to terms with the Browns, you can count on Brady Quinn to Chicago Rumors for about a month.

I think FoxSports has already started one.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Once D. Anderson agrees to terms with the Browns, you can count on Brady Quinn to Chicago Rumors for about a month. I think FoxSports has already started one.

Well, I think that would be a good fit. I think the rumors for Quinn would begin for a lot of teams, like possibly the Vikings or even the Lions in the same division.

 

[redman]

Once D. Anderson agrees to terms with the Browns, you can count on Brady Quinn to Chicago Rumors for about a month. I think FoxSports has already started one.

Well, I think that would be a good fit. I think the rumors for Quinn would begin for a lot of teams, like possibly the Vikings or even the Lions in the same division.

Won't happen unless the Browns get the proverbial offer they can't refuse. This is Brees-Rivers II. Quinn's rookie contract makes him inexpensive to keep on the roster, and the nature of QB injuries means it's foolish not to have some depth there. Also, QB's tend to retain their value as long as any other type of position. There's just not a good reason for the Browns to look to dump Quinn unless, again, that reason is provided by another team's trade offer.

 

[Max Power]

Once D. Anderson agrees to terms with the Browns, you can count on Brady Quinn to Chicago Rumors for about a month. I think FoxSports has already started one.

Well, I think that would be a good fit. I think the rumors for Quinn would begin for a lot of teams, like possibly the Vikings or even the Lions in the same division.

Won't happen unless the Browns get the proverbial offer they can't refuse. This is Brees-Rivers II. Quinn's rookie contract makes him inexpensive to keep on the roster, and the nature of QB injuries means it's foolish not to have some depth there. Also, QB's tend to retain their value as long as any other type of position. There's just not a good reason for the Browns to look to dump Quinn unless, again, that reason is provided by another team's trade offer.

Or just the fact that the Browns have no real chance to compete with the current Defensive personnel. I agree it would take nice package to pry Quinn away, but at the same time the Browns could really improve by doing so.

 

[ookook]

To me re-signing Grossman makes more sense than Orton, but both were relatively cheap and teams these days need 3.

I think Rex is at the "weak starter - good backup" level of QB.

If they can find another of similar level on FA, sign and let them compete they might be able to develop an "okay starter" cheap.

 

[saintfool]

i think the trouble with re-signing Orton and Grossman is that they still don't have weapons. Berrian may leave. Benson isn't showing much. The o-line struggled. That's a lot for the front office to bite off in a single offseason. What WR with an impact will want to come with Grossman throwing to him? He's not going to make you look good. So they'll have to overpay to bring one in because, as bad as they have been at addressing the QB via the draft, they're every bit as inept at drafting WRs too.

 

[gman8343]

I still think Grossman can become a good NFL QB.

As Do I.

me too.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

i think the trouble with re-signing Orton and Grossman is that they still don't have weapons. Berrian may leave. Benson isn't showing much. The o-line struggled. That's a lot for the front office to bite off in a single offseason. What WR with an impact will want to come with Grossman throwing to him? He's not going to make you look good. So they'll have to overpay to bring one in because, as bad as they have been at addressing the QB via the draft, they're every bit as inept at drafting WRs too.

Same could be said then of a QB. What QB would want to come in and throw to a bunch of guys that can't catch so according to your logic you'd have to overpay for one and then address the WR via the draft.

 

[Andy Herron]

What's wrong with the Bears?Man this could be a long thread.

I was just coming in to say that it would make for a much simpler and shorter thread if we asked "what's right with the Bears?"And they haven't made a good decision at QB in over 20 years! Since McMahon?

 

[Black]

First the Bears make a huge mistake and re-sign Grossman. Now they extend Orton for another year??

What other QBs are avail in free agency? Volek? Leftwich? I think each team needs a startable #2 these days and a serviceable #3.

 

[gdg76]

i think the trouble with re-signing Orton and Grossman is that they still don't have weapons. Berrian may leave. Benson isn't showing much. The o-line struggled. That's a lot for the front office to bite off in a single offseason. What WR with an impact will want to come with Grossman throwing to him? He's not going to make you look good. So they'll have to overpay to bring one in because, as bad as they have been at addressing the QB via the draft, they're every bit as inept at drafting WRs too.

They could have overpaid Berrian to come back but chose not to. I think they should draft two wide receivers, later round value picks. Get O-line help with the first pick and get a late value QB.. pick up two guys like Bryant Johnson and Booker and you can have a servicable WR corps for not too much money...However, I would not have a problem if a great defensive player falls and they take him first round (though most Bears fans will piss and moan if this happens). The Bears know how to evaluate defensive talent and I would rather have another producer on D than another collossal bust on the offense. Plus, we all saw the tolls injuries can take last year... I say this only thinking the offense is a lost cause this year anyway...

 

[Riffraff]

Why hasn't Chicago signed a QB like Manning, Brady, Romo.... Why haven't the other 25ish teams in the country?Rex is our QB. He is the best one available to us right now.GO BEARS!!!

This guy gets it.

 

[TD5150]

Why hasn't Chicago signed a QB like Manning, Brady, Romo.... :( Why haven't the other 25ish teams in the country?Rex is our QB. He is the best one available to us right now.GO BEARS!!!

This guy gets it.

That statement is not rocket science. I think everybody understands that you just can't go out and get a player of the caliber. However, every team should get a QB either at their level or a level below once every 30 years or so........The Bears, not so much.I can’t believe I’m saying this but I think I would rather have Todd Collins than either Grossman or Orton for 2008. And Collins can be had for relatively low $$ too.

 

[RC94]

I have a feeling the CHI QB corps is still under construction. Just because they signed Grossman and Orton doesn't mean they can't go after a vet with potential like Losman or Leftwich or better yet a rookie in the first couple of rounds, such as Brohm or Flacco.

 

[FUBAR]

Why hasn't Chicago signed a QB like Manning, Brady, Romo.... Why haven't the other 25ish teams in the country?Rex is our QB. He is the best one available to us right now.GO BEARS!!!

This guy gets it.

Not really. The Bears leading passer is Sid Luckman - who played in the 40's. He ranks #120 all time. Put this in perspective, the Bears have never had a QB throw for more yards in a career than Joey Harrington. Their all-time leading passer has 660 more yards than David Carr. Their best recent QB is probably Jim Harbaugh - he did make the pro-bowl once, as a Colt. Best single season by a Bears QB ranks #104 - Erik Kramer, 3,838 yards in 1995I'm not saying every team has a Peyton Manning, but historically, this is abysmal.

 

[AussieOyOyOy]

Why hasn't Chicago signed a QB like Manning, Brady, Romo.... Why haven't the other 25ish teams in the country?Rex is our QB. He is the best one available to us right now.GO BEARS!!!

This guy gets it.

Not really. The Bears leading passer is Sid Luckman - who played in the 40's. He ranks #120 all time. Put this in perspective, the Bears have never had a QB throw for more yards in a career than Joey Harrington. Their all-time leading passer has 660 more yards than David Carr. Their best recent QB is probably Jim Harbaugh - he did make the pro-bowl once, as a Colt. Best single season by a Bears QB ranks #104 - Erik Kramer, 3,838 yards in 1995I'm not saying every team has a Peyton Manning, but historically, this is abysmal.

You had Walter Payton and the best defense in the history of the NFL. Cry me a freakin' river.

 

[FUBAR]

Why hasn't Chicago signed a QB like Manning, Brady, Romo.... Why haven't the other 25ish teams in the country?Rex is our QB. He is the best one available to us right now.GO BEARS!!!

This guy gets it.

Not really. The Bears leading passer is Sid Luckman - who played in the 40's. He ranks #120 all time. Put this in perspective, the Bears have never had a QB throw for more yards in a career than Joey Harrington. Their all-time leading passer has 660 more yards than David Carr. Their best recent QB is probably Jim Harbaugh - he did make the pro-bowl once, as a Colt. Best single season by a Bears QB ranks #104 - Erik Kramer, 3,838 yards in 1995I'm not saying every team has a Peyton Manning, but historically, this is abysmal.

You had Walter Payton and the best defense in the history of the NFL. Cry me a freakin' river.

You must be a Lions fan. Don't forget Gale Sayers. That's probably it, Da Bears simply have a philosophy that's worked fairly well throughout the years.

 

[flapgreen]

First the Bears make a huge mistake and re-sign Grossman. Now they extend Orton for another year??

I 100% agree that they should give him a chance to show what he can do but he has done nothing so far to warrant a contract extension. Are they really that worried that he will tear up the league in 2008 and they won't be able to re-sign him in 2009?

Come on this is Kyle Orton we are talking about.

I love my Bears but they have not had a solid QB since E. Kramer, and before that it was J. McMahon and neither one of those guys were that great anyway.

How can you go so long with out making a good decision at QB? You would think the rule of averages would hit at least once over the last 30 years, it's like they are trying to sign and draft bums!

I understand your pain, but i'm not going to feel too bad for you here because your team went to the SB just 2 years ago and has won one before. The Detroit Lions have won, one playoff game in SB history back in the early 90's, a home victory over Dallas. Other than that, 40 years of garbage. So, the complaining only carries so much weight with this Detroiter.However, let's deal with this situation. After the complaining about Rex and Orton, who did you really want them to bring in? I'm not sure who's really out there that you feel would improve this team at QB. I don't think Rex was signed to soem LONG term contract. He basically singed another year (and I think part of it is performance based) to either finally see some significant improvment or maybe play as a backup to Orton, who did win a couple ballgames at the end of last season.

I don't see them bringing in another QB in terms of challening to start the season, I'd be surprised. Whether we agree or not with them, their front office is at least lipspeaking that they're confident in the Qb's that they currently have. I 'm looking forard to seeing Orton compete actually.

OMG!!! :(

 

[Boston]

We'll see how the draft and free agency unfolds but right now the Bears are a few key defensive injuries from being a real bad team in 2008. On paper the O looks to be very subpar. The O line needs work, the skill positions aren't scaring anyone and if they get average QB play they'll be happy. They still have some nice defensive players but they aren't a big time D and losing Briggs won't help matters.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I loathe Rex Grossman, but the fact of the matter is both of these guys signed pretty economical contracts.

Angelo must fix up the O-line in free agency and the draft - and draft Rashard Mendenall - this will cure their ills.

They'll also need a WR or two in free agency.

Angelo won't be busting the bank on anybody except current Bears players though (Tommie Harris? Bernard Berrian?)

 

[Pictus Cat]

My trifecta of problems I would like to see solved in 08:

OLine, OLine, OLine, OLine, OLine, Strong Safety, and new Cheerleaders in a state with some fine & smart ladies.

Seriously, Bears fans, would you want to root for the Bears

if they had a great QB, but mediocre Defense and Running game?

If that's your thing, go watch some old Brett Farve games.

Our money is not well spent on bringing a new guy in to learn the system that has marginally better skills.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

First the Bears make a huge mistake and re-sign Grossman. Now they extend Orton for another year??I 100% agree that they should give him a chance to show what he can do but he has done nothing so far to warrant a contract extension. Are they really that worried that he will tear up the league in 2008 and they won't be able to re-sign him in 2009?Come on this is Kyle Orton we are talking about.I love my Bears but they have not had a solid QB since E. Kramer, and before that it was J. McMahon and neither one of those guys were that great anyway.How can you go so long with out making a good decision at QB? You would think the rule of averages would hit at least once over the last 30 years, it's like they are trying to sign and draft bums!

WHAT did you want the Bears to do? NOBODY in free agency is worth a hill of beans - and the last time I checked 'the great' Derek Anderson padded his stats early on with 11TDs and 1 INT against the Rams, Bengals and Dolphins and then pissed down his leg during December when the Browns just needed to win a couple of games.The offseason isn't over yet - Angelo is going to draft a QB as Grossman is only around for one year, and Orton two years. The word is Henne or Flacco.... Time will tell...

 

[Max Power]

Peter King says Dante Culpepper is the solution.

 

[3nOut]

I loathe Rex Grossman, but the fact of the matter is both of these guys signed pretty economical contracts.

Angelo must fix up the O-line in free agency and the draft - and draft Rashard Mendenall - this will cure their ills.

They'll also need a WR or two in free agency.

Angelo won't be busting the bank on anybody except current Bears players though (Tommie Harris? Bernard Berrian?)

I doubt he wll last to the second round and I think they should go Oline in the first.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I loathe Rex Grossman, but the fact of the matter is both of these guys signed pretty economical contracts.

Angelo must fix up the O-line in free agency and the draft - and draft Rashard Mendenall - this will cure their ills.

They'll also need a WR or two in free agency.

Angelo won't be busting the bank on anybody except current Bears players though (Tommie Harris? Bernard Berrian?)

I doubt he wll last to the second round and I think they should go Oline in the first.

Here's my five step program for the Bears in free agency, prior to drafting Rashard Mendenhall in Round One, then a QB/OT/WR in Rounds 2, 3A and 3B:Sign these guys - they may not be 'the best' free agents, but they're damned solid

1) OT Maurice Williams Jax

2) WR Bernard Berrian

3) OG Justin Smiley SF (Tommie Harris said outside of Hutchinson, he the toughest guard he's faced in the NFL)

4) WR Ernest Wilford - or - Marty Booker (if Berrian re-signs)

5) S Eugene Wilson

 

[Pictus Cat]

Peter King says Dante Culpepper is the solution.

Great athlete. I don't think he is the solution for 08, but if he had a year to learn the system, maybe 09. Good list, Grid Iron.

 

[3nOut]

I loathe Rex Grossman, but the fact of the matter is both of these guys signed pretty economical contracts.

Angelo must fix up the O-line in free agency and the draft - and draft Rashard Mendenall - this will cure their ills.

They'll also need a WR or two in free agency.

Angelo won't be busting the bank on anybody except current Bears players though (Tommie Harris? Bernard Berrian?)

I doubt he wll last to the second round and I think they should go Oline in the first.

Here's my five step program for the Bears in free agency, prior to drafting Rashard Mendenhall in Round One, then a QB/OT/WR in Rounds 2, 3A and 3B:Sign these guys - they may not be 'the best' free agents, but they're damned solid

1) OT Maurice Williams Jax

2) WR Bernard Berrian

3) OG Justin Smiley SF (Tommie Harris said outside of Hutchinson, he the toughest guard he's faced in the NFL)

4) WR Ernest Wilford - or - Marty Booker (if Berrian re-signs)

5) S Eugene Wilson

1) So you wouldn't even take a run at Faneca?2) I think Berrian's OK but not worth the money he's probably looking for. I'd rather have Bryant Johnson.

3) I'd agree.

4) Both would be fine, Booker probably cheaper (but Wilford is younger).

5) Sure.

6) With less interest around the league in Turner, I'd take a stab at getting him cheap. He might be willing to sign a 2-3 year contract to 'prove' himself worthy as a starter and be closer to home.

Then I'd go best OL in the first. They have to get younger at the position, not just sign FAs. I'd target a QB in the second (Flacco?).

Also, would/should the Bears take a look at Colvin again since he was released by the Pats?