Where Did ESPN say Cowher might go (1 Viewer)

[Evilgrin 72]

If he takes a HC job again in '08, I'm just wondering why he didn't just stay in Pittsburgh. He had it made there. He could have been HC there until he was too old to coach. I just don't understand it.Then again, I never understood why Holmgren left Green Bay, Vermeil left St. Louis, Jimmy Johnson left Dallas, etc.Coaches need to start realizing that once you build something you should see it through, and once the reign is over wouldn't it be fun to start over again?

He really wanted to take some time off after coaching the team for 15 years and spend some time with his family. He basically missed watching his kids grow up with the crazy hours an NFL head coach has to keep and I think he realized that with his youngest daughter only having a couple of years left before college, that it was now or never. He's fully acknowledged that he still loves the game, still has drive and motivation, but just didn't want the demands of an NFL head coaches schedule for a while. He can take a year or two off, appear on reality shows and NFL studio shows, still have tons of time to attend his kids' sporting events, re-charge his batteries, then come back a year or two later for WAY more $$ than the Steelers were willing to pay him. So much so, that even taking the year or two off, he'll end up further ahead financially. To him, I'm sure it was a no-brainer.

 

[BGP]

If he takes a HC job again in '08, I'm just wondering why he didn't just stay in Pittsburgh. He had it made there. He could have been HC there until he was too old to coach. I just don't understand it.

Then again, I never understood why Holmgren left Green Bay, Vermeil left St. Louis, Jimmy Johnson left Dallas, etc.

Coaches need to start realizing that once you build something you should see it through, and once the reign is over wouldn't it be fun to start over again?

Wasn't Johnson fired? I think the others all left cuz they knew they were going to be canned or management offered them the option to leave and avoid the embarrassement of being fired.

http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/spt/misc/h.../032994cow.html

Jones, Johnson reach `mutual decision' to part

Pair assert move is best for Cowboys

IRVING – Jimmy Johnson wasn't sure of the proper word for what had happened – quit, resigned, fired, rode off into the sunset. All he and Jerry Jones really knew Tuesday was that it was over.

http://tinyurl.com/32jp6l

PRO FOOTBALL; Tearful Vermeil Goes Out on Top

February 2, 2000, Wednesday

By GERALD ESKENAZI (NYT); Sports Desk

DISPLAYING ABSTRACT - **** Vermeil resigns as coach of St Louis Rams less than 48 hours after winning Super Bowl; he will be succeeded by Mike Martz

http://www.packers.com/history/chronology/

1999

Holmgren resigns to become executive vice president of football operations/general manager/head coach of Seattle Seahawks (Jan. 8).

 

[BGP]

Not loyalty. The fact that taking the Cleveland job is borderline career suicide would be a deterrent.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Not loyalty. The fact that taking the Cleveland job is borderline career suicide would be a deterrent.

Dude, the fact that Belichick and Schottenheimer went on to have success with other teams notwithstanding, the Browns haven't had the same coach for more than 5 years since Sam Rutigliano back in the late 70s/early 80s. Not exactly great job security. If Crennel is indeed dismissed after next year, that would be their third straight hire who was canned before he completed 4 seasons on the job.Add to this the fact that he'd be taking the reigns of a team that has had exactly 2 (yes, that's correct folks -2) .500 or better seasons since I graduated HS in 1989, and a prospective coach would have to be REALLY optimistic that he could turn the thing around. Read that again - 2 non losing seasons in the 90s and 00s (yes, they had no team for 3 years, but that's still a staggering 12 losing seasons in 14 years.) I don't see Cleveland landing any "name" coaches until they get a little better - until then, they'll be the domain of first-time NFL head coaches looking to break into the league. Now, you never know - A guy like Dennis Green went to Arizona, which is the only other job as bad as Cleveland, but I bet Cowher coaches either in New York, Washington (if Gibbs re-retires) or Carolina.

 

[Godsbrother]

Bill Cowher respects Dan Rooney very much and is very grateful for getting the Steelers job back in 1991 when no one knew who he was.

Actually Bill Cowher had become a hot commodity in 1991. The Browns also were hiring that offseason, and the choice came down to Bill Belichick, Bill Cowher, and Bobby Ross.http://www.giants.com/news/eisen/story.asp?story_id=503

When Accorsi began his search in 1991, Bobby Ross, who had just won a national championship at Georgia Tech, and Bill Cowher, then the Kansas City Chiefs defensive coordinator, were considered the favorites. But the meticulously prepared and single-minded Belichick got the job.

It is for this reason that I don't think he takes the Browns job if it is offered.

For what reason? Loyalty? Cowher actually got his first big break in Cleveland as a coach. He was a hot commodity when the Steelers hired him.

Cowher credits Marty Shottenheimer with giving him his first big break, not so much the Browns organization (which is in Baltimore now). It was the Steelers that gave him the opportunity as a HC back in 1991 and Cowher has expressed nothing but gratitude and respect for Dan Rooney. I definitely think that would be a factor in his decision as well as the fact that he would be persona non grata in his hometown. I think EG is right though, the Browns job is far from a glamorous one.

Cowher is an ego-maniac and I would think he would either go with a job close to home (Charlotte, Jacksonville) or one in the spotlight (Dallas, New York, or Washington). The only way he goes to the Browns is if they offer him an obscene amount of money, which he will make no matter where he goes.

 

[ruelvis]

thanks for confirming my post BGP - they all left before their impending firings.

 

[BGP]

Not loyalty. The fact that taking the Cleveland job is borderline career suicide would be a deterrent.

Dude, the fact that Belichick and Schottenheimer went on to have success with other teams notwithstanding, the Browns haven't had the same coach for more than 5 years since Sam Rutigliano back in the late 70s/early 80s. Not exactly great job security. If Crennel is indeed dismissed after next year, that would be their third straight hire who was canned before he completed 4 seasons on the job.Add to this the fact that he'd be taking the reigns of a team that has had exactly 2 (yes, that's correct folks -2) .500 or better seasons since I graduated HS in 1989, and a prospective coach would have to be REALLY optimistic that he could turn the thing around. Read that again - 2 non losing seasons in the 90s and 00s (yes, they had no team for 3 years, but that's still a staggering 12 losing seasons in 14 years.) I don't see Cleveland landing any "name" coaches until they get a little better - until then, they'll be the domain of first-time NFL head coaches looking to break into the league. Now, you never know - A guy like Dennis Green went to Arizona, which is the only other job as bad as Cleveland, but I bet Cowher coaches either in New York, Washington (if Gibbs re-retires) or Carolina.

That's all in the past now. Let's look at the present. Savage has done a fine job with his first two drafts. WR Braylon Edwards looked like a real player. He blew his knee out. Can't blame Savage for that. S Pool also can play. He'll find a spot in the starting lineup this season. He got three linebackers who all look like they have a bright future last year.

If Crennel is indeed dismissed after next year, that would be their third straight hire who was canned before he completed 4 seasons on the job.

Give me a list of NFL head coaches in the last 20 years who had losing seasons in three consecutive years and kept his job. Heck, just a list of head coaches who completed 3 losing seasons in a row with the same team. Pretty short list. Looking at that list, I'd argue that the team would be showing patience in giving Crennel that much time, because it doesn't happen often in this league.Sure, there are problems with the Browns personnel. But even given the worst circumstances, a good coach is except to get his club to show flashes, to overachieve every so often. Not lose year in and year out.