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Where do you slot Tim Tebow now? (1 Viewer)

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As of right now, where does Tim Tebow slot in terms of fantasy value? I ranked these QBs subjectively as to their order of value, in my opinion. Obviously he is not above Brady, Rodgers, Newton, etc.

Does he rank above Fitzpatrick? Below Colt McCoy? Or in the middle between which QB?

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Jay Cutler

Mark Sanchez

Matt Hasselbeck

Joe Flacco

Josh Freeman

Sam Bradford

Andy Dalton

Alex Smith

Colt McCoy

 
As of right now, where does Tim Tebow slot in terms of fantasy value? I ranked these QBs subjectively as to their order of value, in my opinion. Obviously he is not above Brady, Rodgers, Newton, etc.Does he rank above Fitzpatrick? Below Colt McCoy? Or in the middle between which QB?Ryan FitzpatrickJay CutlerMark SanchezMatt HasselbeckJoe FlaccoJosh FreemanSam BradfordAndy DaltonAlex SmithColt McCoy
Redraft or dynasty? Ironically he may hold more value in redraft right now, as dynasty players think there is at least a decent chance he won't be an NFL QB for long (some say he never was ;) ) As long as he is starting I honestly think he is a borderline QB1 - which would put him ahead of most of the guys on your list. The problem is, he could be done and relegated to the bench as soon as week 9. Frankly, I think John Fox was wrong for starting him this soon. He obviously is not ready. At this point, IMHO, Fox needs to basically say "Screw it - it's Tebow's job for the rest of the season." - If he doesn't and he benches him after next week, there will be Tebow-backers who will decry that he never got a fair shot - and I think that would be fairly accurate. The problem in Denver is that Fox seems to be coaching like a politician making every decision based on public opnion polls - that is, many of his moves are reactionary - there doesn't seem to be any sort of plan. Not only at QB, but even at RB - they brought in McGahee, but then declared the starting job Moreno's...until he did poorly for a few weeks, then they switched to McGahee...then he got hurt. Now Moreno actually performed fairly well - so what now?Long story short (too late?) - Tebow's FF value hinges on whether or not he is the starter (obviously). The problem is Fox is becoming like Shanny - but in a worse way. He isn't that bright, he's a poor judge of talent and he runs his entire team the way Shanny runs his backfield. Frankly, he's pretty much a hold in either format - until it becomes clear that he either is or is not the starter for the forseeable future (and I mean more than a few weeks out).
 
In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.

 
For the next week or two, around QB10-15. After that, about even with Leaf and Russel.

 
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I think his value depends on if you have another QB in your roster in the #7-#12 range. If you have someone like that (Rivers, Ryan, Schaub, whoever), I'd rather have Tebow on my roster than anybody on that list - nobody comes close to Tebow's upside, with the possible exception of Fitzpatrick.

If you have to depend on somebody in the original list to be your every week starter and your waiver wire is super thin, I'd probably rather have any of the first six guys.

If you have a solid but unspectacular starter, I can't think of a better QB2 to have than Tebow.

And FWIW, there's not too many guys something like that applies to, especially at the QB position. It's more or less the same principle as holding a guy like Ben Tate as your RB4 instead of Ladanian Tomlinson. Massive upside, but you wouldn't want to have to rely on them right now.

 
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I think his value depends on if you have another QB in your roster in the #7-#12 range. If you have someone like that (Rivers, Ryan, Schaub, whoever), I'd rather have Tebow on my roster than anybody on that list - nobody comes close to Tebow's upside, with the possible exception of Fitzpatrick.If you have to depend on somebody in the original list to be your every week starter and your waiver wire is super thin, I'd probably rather have any of the first six guys.If you have a solid but unspectacular starter, I can't think of a better QB2 to have than Tebow.
Tebow or Eli Manning?
 
I think his value depends on if you have another QB in your roster in the #7-#12 range. If you have someone like that (Rivers, Ryan, Schaub, whoever), I'd rather have Tebow on my roster than anybody on that list - nobody comes close to Tebow's upside, with the possible exception of Fitzpatrick.If you have to depend on somebody in the original list to be your every week starter and your waiver wire is super thin, I'd probably rather have any of the first six guys.If you have a solid but unspectacular starter, I can't think of a better QB2 to have than Tebow.
Tebow has much less job security than most QBs in the 12-20 range. Accordingly, he's less valuable because he's less reliable.
 
In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.
He didn't become a starter until week 7.He's regressed with each game he's played.He's as bad a QB as this league has ever seen and unless you're playing in a 32 team league, he's unrosterable.
 
I have Tebow, Fitzpatrick and Flacco. I have been playing tebow since he became a starter. One good week and one bad week...and one week where he scored well with limited time.

His games are downright painful to watch...I expect that to continue. Not liking Fitzpatrick's matchup this week. Probably going to roll out tebow again this week. The only person in the list that I think he is about even with would be Fitz.

 
At this point and given the very real possibility Tebow could get benched at any time, I'd start the following QBs over Tebow without hesitation:

Rodgers

Brees

Brady

Vick

Newton

Stafford

Roethlisberger

Eli

Rivers

Schaub

I'd very likely start the following guys as well although I might give some consideration to some of them:

Romo (despite his current struggles)

Ryan

Flacco

That has Tebow in the 15-20 range on my list which is where he scored in my league in Week 8. He has Top 10 potential but I'm very concerned about the possibility he'll get Orton'd next week or any week going forward and deliver a 0 or a smattering of points on that particular week.

 
With the type of stats that he has in the 4th quarter, I am hoping that Fox would ride the day out and then Orton the following week. If the tail is actually wagging the dog there, the fans KNOW 4th quarter is Tebow time! lol

 
His value depends purely on your scoring system. In standard scoring, he's still a borderline QB1 every week, no matter how badly he plays. In my main league where I own him, he scored me a delightful -1 this week (including -2 per sack and -1 for every 10 pass incompletions).

 
I have him and Ryan. Played Tebow the last two weeks but will obviously bench him week 9 (Ryan vs. Indy). I'm certainly not dropping him until Fox is. His ~50y RuYd is a nice "guaranteed" 5 points week in and week out. If he ever actually learns to throw (OK, he probably won't) he'll put up monster points

 
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Given Clayton's report today which I posted in the one of the other Tebow threads about how he may get benched this week, I'm going to dramatically alter my list. The only QBs I would start Tebow over this week would be:

Alex Smith

Matt Moore

John Beck

Feely (if he starts)

Skelton (if he starts)

Too much risk involving Tebow for my taste this week.

 
I'll have him in that 10-12 range as long as he's starting. He looked very good early in the game, hitting a beaut of a TD to Decker that for some reason was called out of bounds. Even though he looks completely scattered out there, he'll still get numbers as long as he's on the field. Good schedule ahead if he does step it up a bit and hold onto the job. You got him off the wire, so no real worries if he doesn't produce, right?

 
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In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.
The fact that you counted back to Week 5 when he didn't start until Week 7 and he still ranked 11th is telling.If you look only at the 3 weeks he started last year and the 2 this year he's at or near QB1. Certainly top 3. I don't see any reason to project him worse than 5th-8th as long as he's starting. Look at how awful his last 2 games were, just miserably bad. Now look at his fantasy point total for those 2 games. Rank him (highly) accordingly. I could also very easily see him riding the bench before the year is out though.
 
In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.
He didn't become a starter until week 7.He's regressed with each game he's played.He's as bad a QB as this league has ever seen and unless you're playing in a 32 team league, he's unrosterable.
I was counting the week 5 game where he took over for Orton at halftime against the Chargers and nearly led them to a win. He was a top 10 fantasy QB that week, even after only playing one half.
 
In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.
He didn't become a starter until week 7.He's regressed with each game he's played.

He's as bad a QB as this league has ever seen and unless you're playing in a 32 team league, he's unrosterable.
Lol. Here's a typical Tebow game, and I'm being pretty conservative:175 pass yds, 50 rush yds, 1.5 total TDs, 1 pick

That awful game makes for a top 10 QB line in standard scoring leagues.

 
I expect to be dumping Tebow in most of my shallow leagues this week as he is presently backing up Big Ben, Vick and Romo. Will send feelers out for trades if any team appears to be especially QB-strapped but otherwise I'm not holding out much hope for him.

Ironically enough, I am trying to trade FOR Tebow in my 16-team deep league right now (he'd be part of a QBBC with Fitz) as his owner is desperate, needs to win out to make the playoffs and I'm holding the prospect of Tebow being benched this week over his head in order to get him to bite.

 
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'BuffaloWings said:
As of right now, where does Tim Tebow slot in terms of fantasy value? I ranked these QBs subjectively as to their order of value, in my opinion. Obviously he is not above Brady, Rodgers, Newton, etc.Does he rank above Fitzpatrick? Below Colt McCoy? Or in the middle between which QB?Ryan FitzpatrickJay CutlerMark SanchezMatt HasselbeckJoe FlaccoJosh FreemanSam BradfordAndy DaltonAlex SmithColt McCoy
Of course you are asking from a FF points perspective.Based on previous FF performance - in between Freeman and Bradford.His biggest value is his rushing yards and potential to score a rushing td.Detroit showed the blueprint for playing against Tebow. - Stay at home on the dump off passes- Have someone stay with him during the pass rush - his first instinct is to tuck the ball and run - keep the pursuit.I would think Oakland would want him to throw from the pocket and have more defenders in the secondary. Better chance of 7 interceptions than the expected 7 sacks.
 
In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.
He didn't become a starter until week 7.He's regressed with each game he's played.

He's as bad a QB as this league has ever seen and unless you're playing in a 32 team league, he's unrosterable.
Lol. Here's a typical Tebow game, and I'm being pretty conservative:175 pass yds, 50 rush yds, 1.5 total TDs, 1 pick

That awful game makes for a top 10 QB line in standard scoring leagues.
How many top 20 QBs have better job security the rest of the season than Tebow? Heck, how many top 32 QBs have better job security?
 
Heck, how many top 32 QBs have better job security?
This is the most significant point about Tebow right now and I'm surprised nobody else seems to be paying it much heed. Everyone is predicting Tebow to be a Top 10 QB because that's what he's shown he can do. I get that. But he's reportedly close to being benched. Isn't anyone remotely concerned he could exit Week 9 early?
 
In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.
He didn't become a starter until week 7.He's regressed with each game he's played.He's as bad a QB as this league has ever seen and unless you're playing in a 32 team league, he's unrosterable.
I agree here. Thought he might continue his 4th quarter form this game but he is laughable as a starter. He should start working on his blocking and catching right away.The opposing defense was laughing at him after the game. Not good.
 
Heck, how many top 32 QBs have better job security?
This is the most significant point about Tebow right now and I'm surprised nobody else seems to be paying it much heed. Everyone is predicting Tebow to be a Top 10 QB because that's what he's shown he can do. I get that. But he's reportedly close to being benched. Isn't anyone remotely concerned he could exit Week 9 early?
I highly doubt he'd pull Tebow mid-game. He'd have to play worse than he did last week and even then he'd probably wait until Tuesday to announce a new starter, one of their perennial pro bowl backup qbs with unlimited upside. Tebow is the only quarterback on the roster with a remote possibility of starting for the Broncos next year. It wouldn't make much sense to play someone else.
 
Heck, how many top 32 QBs have better job security?
This is the most significant point about Tebow right now and I'm surprised nobody else seems to be paying it much heed. Everyone is predicting Tebow to be a Top 10 QB because that's what he's shown he can do. I get that. But he's reportedly close to being benched. Isn't anyone remotely concerned he could exit Week 9 early?
Thank you, I agree, right.I have Tebow in more than one league.I started him in one league 2 weeks ago. In another I had planned to start him this week. Problem with last week - despite 172 passing, 1 pass TD, 63 yards rushing - he had 7 sacks. Week before he took 6 sacks. If no/fewer sacks he would be fantastic (FF-wise). Even with them his numbers have been ok. Romo, Rivers AND Brees *all likely/possibly finished with less FF points than him.But like the above says, would he, could he be benched and how many are letting that affect their decision to start him?I currently have him penciled in for the bye and I think that's the case for most people starting him. You could think he might end up with a Top 5 score for any given week (let's just say hypothetically) but who really would start him (or any QB still in his first 8 starts) over a top 5, top 8, top 12 option?The real question is anyone flying with Cassel, Ponder, Flacco, Dalton, Hasselbeck over him? I'm not.I'm not a Tebow "fan" never was but what he has done in FF terms is pretty obviously excellent for a still new QB. I say the guy survives Oakland, which has its own problems.
 
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This really seems to be the Orton situation all over again. You know Tebow's going to get benched; you just don't know when. It could come after a game (which likely doesn't hurt his fantasy owners) or it could come at halftime or sooner (which in all probability would be a disaster).

 
This really seems to be the Orton situation all over again. Most of you thinkYou know Tebow's going to get benched; you just don't know when. It could come after a game (which likely doesn't hurt his fantasy owners) or it could come at halftime or sooner (which in all probability would be a disaster).
 
This really seems to be the Orton situation all over again. Most of you thinkYou know Tebow's going to get benched; you just don't know when. It could come after a game (which likely doesn't hurt his fantasy owners) or it could come at halftime or sooner (which in all probability would be a disaster).
You're right, there's no certainty that he'll get benched. However, it seems to be a pretty safe bet that if he continues to play so amazingly awful he won't last much longer as the starter. Clayton's report today said Tebow's on a "very short leash."
 
In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.
He didn't become a starter until week 7.He's regressed with each game he's played.

He's as bad a QB as this league has ever seen and unless you're playing in a 32 team league, he's unrosterable.
Lol. Here's a typical Tebow game, and I'm being pretty conservative:175 pass yds, 50 rush yds, 1.5 total TDs, 1 pick

That awful game makes for a top 10 QB line in standard scoring leagues.
Laugh all you want. The real joke will be on anyone starting him, in real life or FF
 
In my league (25 pass yds/pt, 10 rush yds/pt, 6 pts/TD, -1pt/sack), Tebow is QB11 since becoming a starter in week 5. I'd say that's about right for RoY, as long as he's starting. And he's only going to improve as long as he gets playing time.
He didn't become a starter until week 7.He's regressed with each game he's played.

He's as bad a QB as this league has ever seen and unless you're playing in a 32 team league, he's unrosterable.
Lol. Here's a typical Tebow game, and I'm being pretty conservative:175 pass yds, 50 rush yds, 1.5 total TDs, 1 pick

That awful game makes for a top 10 QB line in standard scoring leagues.
Laugh all you want. The real joke will be on anyone starting him, in real life or FF
You do understand how fantasy football works. The more points a player scores, the better it is for your team. Even in these terrible real football weeks, he is a top 10 fantasy scoring QB. Points are more heavily weighted towards rushing, and Tebow is one of the few QB's good at running.
 
Fox and Elway are laying the groundwork for drafting Luck, Barkley or Jones next year. They know the fans love Tebow, so they are showing them how putrid the guy really is. Another game or two like this should be all the evidence they need. I have Romo and Tebow, and wouldn't even consider starting the guy. He's a zero waiting to happen.

 
He's as bad a QB as this league has ever seen and unless you're playing in a 32 team league, he's unrosterable.
This might be one of the most full of fail things I've ever read in the pool - and I've been here a little while. You are normally better than this.
 
You do understand how fantasy football works. The more points a player scores, the better it is for your team. Even in these terrible real football weeks, he is a top 10 fantasy scoring QB. Points are more heavily weighted towards rushing, and Tebow is one of the few QB's good at running.
If he gets pulled for Quinn, he ain't scoring anything.
 
It's a real shame Tebow's going to wind up getting himself benched against either the Raiders or Chiefs.

He's easily the best running back on the Broncos roster.

 
The real question is if/when is Tebow benched. Because as bad as he has played (and it has been very bad) he has still been been a decent starter as far as fantasy with a lot of upside.

 
The real question is if/when is Tebow benched. Because as bad as he has played (and it has been very bad) he has still been been a decent starter as far as fantasy with a lot of upside.
Yup. If you could guarantee that Tebow will play the whole game this week then he's a Top 10-15 QB. Unfortunately, given the report yesterday that he's on a very short leash and combined with how awful he's played in both of his starts (with the exception of a four-minute spurt against the Dolphins), it would not be a surprise at all to see him get benched during the game. That's the problem I see with Tebow this week. If you start him, it's a gigantic roll of the dice. Fox has already benched one QB during a game, what makes anyone think he won't bench another?
 
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Ok, we all know even before last week most would not have started Tebow over a Romo, a Fitzpatrick, etc., or anyone on the Top10/12 list. Even if it was a push in terms of numbers when it came down to shove no one would do that.

But we are in the byes, and guys like Stafford are off.

So who would NOT start Tebow over a Cassel, Palmer, Freeman, Ponder, Hasselbeck and McCoy? Throw in a Flacco vs PIT or Sanchez vs BUF if you like.

Just leave the name out of it.

He has 5 starts. 2-3 record. 4 of 5 games with 20+ games with at least one very high score in there. He put up a 20+ point game vs his opponent this week, OAK, at the end of last year. His one bad game was vs the Lions who have torn up Cassel and Cutler this year far worse in terms of their final FF numbers, so no great shame there.

The Raiders just lost 28-0 themselves. McFadden is out. They have their own QB issues and threw 6 INT's last week, far worse than Tebow and maybe giving the Broncos some chances this week too. OAK is 27th vs the pass, 16th vs the run, 25th in points allowed, No. 11 in FF points allowed to QB's, right between St Louis & Indy.

Caveat: he might get benched, he might *not.

Now who of you with byes are not starting him and who are you starting over him ?

Thanks.

 
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As a staunch Tim Tebow supporter with regard to his FANTASY FOOTBALL stat production over the last few weeks, I have to now admit that starting him this week vs Oakland is not a smart idea. Judging by his real life NFL qb play, all indications are that he will do more of the same vs Oak. If he does that, based on Fox's comments this week, there is a high probability that we could see some brady quinn and/or kyle orton in that game.

He COULD go off and the lights COULD go on for him this week and he MIGHT put up 40 pts in a monster effort that makes everyone say "WOW!". I acknowledge that. But is it worth the risk of a potential goose egg at your QB position in week 9? Not if you have other options like Romo, Manning, etc. There aren't many qb's Id start Tebow over because of the risk of him getting pulled. If I didn't feel that risk was high I'd still play him because even though he sucks in real life he puts up fantasy points, and this matchup is better than last week's. Although Oak does have a good d-line that can get pressure on the qb.

Start Tebow this week potentially at your own peril. Im's starting Romo over him. I actually HOPE that Tebow goes OFF and the lights go on for him on my bench, because then he will solidify his status as the starting qb for the broncos for the rest of the season and I would start him every week. But I don't see that happening. I truly see him getting pulled.

 
Someone mentioned the TD pass to Decker that was called out of bounds. that play was very close to being a TD and many recievers would have kept that 3rd step in bounds. With that play plus the rest of his day, it would have been a big day fantasy-wise. My biggest concern is that he gets benched but again, they have to let him play the 4th quarter - so he'd have to be unbelievably bad to get pulled. The raiders are the #28 passing D this week. For me with Flacco against Pitt or Fitz against the Jets whoare both ranked much higher against the pass. I have to trust him....If I was able to drop Flacco for Sanchez off of the wire this week I would have probably gambled with Sanchez over Flacco.

 
Now who of you with byes are not starting him and who are you starting over him ?Thanks.
Here's where I'm at. I'm giving strong consideration to dropping Tebow for Bradford. My FAAB deadline is tomorrow. Bradford isn't expected to practice today but if he returns to practice tomorrow I'm about 90% certain I'll put in a bid for Bradford. I massively overpaid for Tebow so there's some incentive for me to stick with him but honestly I'm concerned he'll be benched and I'd prefer to avoid having to fill this roster spot again.If I can't get Bradford, my league (start 2-QB league) allows for one-week pickups. So depending who's out there I may grab a QB for one week to start over Tebow. As I posted earlier, the only QBs I would definitely not start over Tebow this week are:Alex SmithMatt MooreJohn BeckFeely (if he starts)Skelton (if he starts)Everyone else is fair game. That's where I'm at as of Wednesday morning with regard to Tebow. As I posted earlier, I honestly have no idea what to do with the guy right now. I just know I can't afford to take a 0 from his roster spot this week and I'm very concerned that could occur.
 
Someone mentioned the TD pass to Decker that was called out of bounds. that play was very close to being a TD and many recievers would have kept that 3rd step in bounds. With that play plus the rest of his day, it would have been a big day fantasy-wise. My biggest concern is that he gets benched but again, they have to let him play the 4th quarter - so he'd have to be unbelievably bad to get pulled. The raiders are the #28 passing D this week. For me with Flacco against Pitt or Fitz against the Jets whoare both ranked much higher against the pass. I have to trust him....If I was able to drop Flacco for Sanchez off of the wire this week I would have probably gambled with Sanchez over Flacco.
I'm of a similar mindset here. While there's some risk in Tebow for this week, I'm not sure I'd want to trot out Fitzpatrick against the Jets, either. In 7 games, only Brady and Romo have thrown for over 200 yards on them, and only Romo has scored more than 1 TD. 4 of 7 QBs (or awful tandems, in the case of Jacksonville) had more turnovers than scores. Stuff like this why it's silly to say "bench Tebow because he's a huge risk." Some matchups make other guys you'd normally consider reliable just as risky.
 
Good column listing the pros and cons when it comes to benching/sticking with Tebow. Sounds like one of the things I mentioned in another Tebow thread (a fractured locker room) may already be happening. Unfortunately, the column doesn't provide any insight into what may happen.

What a mess.

Link

 
Stuff like this why it's silly to say "bench Tebow because he's a huge risk." Some matchups make other guys you'd normally consider reliable just as risky.
I don't think it's silly at all. Barring injury, there's probably a 0% chance Fitzgerald doesn't finish the game on Sunday. So while his matchup is brutal as you point out he's infinitely safer from a fantasy perspective because there is no fear whatsoever that he's going to get benched. The same can't be said for Tebow. Tebow's floor this week is 0 or a couple of points depending on your league's scoring system. I believe he has the lowest floor of any starting QB in the league this week. That simply cannot be discounted in my opinion when factoring in his Week 9 potential.
 
A lot of it depends on what you need from the QB position this week. If you think you have a good chance at winning I'd rather start Sanchez for example, but if you have ADP on bye and Ryan Matthews is your RB2 and you need a big game from your QB I'd roll with Tebow. As bad as he has been it would not shock me if he put up 200/2 and ran for 50/1 this week.

 

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