Where does Blount go in the draft next year? (1 Viewer)

[njherdfan]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.

With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

 

[Go deep]

I know - but we take this stuff too seriously . . .as an example, suppose that any of us take a three week vacation in the middle of the season to be a guest "assistant coach" for an NFL team. we get to attend every practice, offensive meetings, planning sessions, film sessions, etc. Our knowledge of players of that team would undoubtedly increase exponentially. So why do we act like we know everything now and the coaches of that team know nothing??

I agree with you. I will actually take it a step further. Even if I do get to do all that stuff, i still wouldnt know half of what the coaches know. There is a reason the Blount is only getting so many touches and in certain situations. His success does get me excited about something, it just isnt Blount. Its what a real NFL back might do in his situation. Deangelo Williams would instantly be a top 5 pick in redrafts next year if he goes to TB.

huh? The Bucs run game was AWFUL this year until Blount took over, and he started putting up excellent numbers. I don't know how you can say that Blount isn't a very talented runner, and he's been putting up a lot of this production without the team's two best offensive linemen. He very well could put up 1,000 yards while playing in only 13 games. If you don't think that makes him a "real" NFL back, then there aren't too many "real" backs in the NFL.

Blount is definitely better than Caddy is right now, and the Bucs best option at RB. I didnt say he hasnt put up good numbers, just that i dont think he is very talented(when compared to other NFL RB's).

 

[duaneok66]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

what's Caddy's contract situation look like??

 

[Go deep]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

It is certainly a possibilty that Blount isnt fully replaced, but he is not an every down RB. I could actually see the Bucs going to a three headed rushing attack, with Blount being the main guy betyween the 20's, someone as a 3rd down back(maybe Huggins) and a goalline guy.

 

[cvnpoka]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.

With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

agree with this, esp bolded. its funny that go deep refuses to acknowledge that blount has shown any sort of ability despite 987 yards at 5.2 ypc over 12 games. and that he wont show any improvement despite despite hardly playing in a spread offense his final year in college and then joining the practice team late for the bucs.

 

[goodoldalky]

Young 1000 yard feature backs don't last long in fantasy drafts... at least they shouldn't

 

[Kenny Powers]

In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.

Wat?....I wouldnt even think about Blount before the 4th round next year

 

[cvnpoka]

i just looked up the 4th round of one of my leagues. these backs went: moreno, bradshaw, addai, rbrown, stewart, beanie. seems like a good spot for a 1400 yfs and 8 td guy.

 

[Choke]

In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.

Wat?....I wouldnt even think about Blount before the 4th round next year

Which is where I was taking Foster before he started looking so good in the preseason, then he moved up into the early-mid 2nd a couple weeks before the season started. Expect the same type of situation.

 

[njherdfan]

In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.

Wat?....I wouldnt even think about Blount before the 4th round next year

Which is where I was taking Foster before he started looking so good in the preseason, then he moved up into the early-mid 2nd a couple weeks before the season started. Expect the same type of situation.

Except Foster also showed the ability to catch the ball. Even the best case scenario for Blount won't involve him being a factor in the passing game.

 

[JuniorNB]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

It is certainly a possibilty that Blount isnt fully replaced, but he is not an every down RB.

I'm convinced that someone beat you to him on the waiver wire and you're still bitter. That, or you didn't watch him play at all this year.

 

[cvnpoka]

its certainly possible he develops into an every down back but he wasnt this year. he doesnt catch many balls or play on passing downs due to blocking. he recently lost the short yardage plays.

doesnt matter, adrian peterson wasnt an every down back last year bc chester played on blocking downs. "every down back" is not a requisite for fantasy football success.

 

[Novice2]

12TH round

 

[Choke]

In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.

Wat?....I wouldnt even think about Blount before the 4th round next year

Which is where I was taking Foster before he started looking so good in the preseason, then he moved up into the early-mid 2nd a couple weeks before the season started. Expect the same type of situation.

Except Foster also showed the ability to catch the ball. Even the best case scenario for Blount won't involve him being a factor in the passing game.

Im not saying he will produce as Foster. Im saying the draft situation will be similar.

Foster went early 2nd in late-drafts and in the 4th in early-drafts and is producing as the #1.

Im saying LGB will go early 2nd when were are close to the start of the season (and in the 4th prior to that) and produce as the #10-14.

But dont fall out of your chair if he puts up Michael Turner type #s.

 

[njherdfan]

In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.

Wat?....I wouldnt even think about Blount before the 4th round next year

Which is where I was taking Foster before he started looking so good in the preseason, then he moved up into the early-mid 2nd a couple weeks before the season started. Expect the same type of situation.

Except Foster also showed the ability to catch the ball. Even the best case scenario for Blount won't involve him being a factor in the passing game.

Im not saying he will produce as Foster. Im saying the draft situation will be similar.

Foster went early 2nd in late-drafts and in the 4th in early-drafts and is producing as the #1.

Im saying LGB will go early 2nd when were are close to the start of the season (and in the 4th prior to that) and produce as the #10-14.

But dont fall out of your chair if he puts up Michael Turner type #s.

I understood your point, I was just saying that I think his lack of receiving skills will make his ADP lower than Foster's was this season.

 

[duaneok66]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

It is certainly a possibilty that Blount isnt fully replaced, but he is not an every down RB.

I'm convinced that someone beat you to him on the waiver wire and you're still bitter. That, or you didn't watch him play at all this year.

a back that can't pass protect and doesnt see the field much in short yardage situations is not an every down back . . .

 

[Go deep]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

It is certainly a possibilty that Blount isnt fully replaced, but he is not an every down RB.

I'm convinced that someone beat you to him on the waiver wire and you're still bitter. That, or you didn't watch him play at all this year.

Ive watched almost every snap from every Bucs game this year. It is my opinion that he is an OK RB, but not talented enough to be a every down RB. RB's come and go in this league, very few have the staying power to be productive backs for years. Nothing i have seen from Blount has made me think he is going to be one of those backs. Him and this situation reminds me alot of Samkon Gado from a few years back. Its possible he is the Bucs every down back by the end of the 2011 season, but i would bet good money that he is not.

 

[Choke]

Wat?

....I wouldnt even think about Blount before the 4th round next year

Which is where I was taking Foster before he started looking so good in the preseason, then he moved up into the early-mid 2nd a couple weeks before the season started. Expect the same type of situation.

Except Foster also showed the ability to catch the ball. Even the best case scenario for Blount won't involve him being a factor in the passing game.

Im not saying he will produce as Foster. Im saying the draft situation will be similar.

Foster went early 2nd in late-drafts and in the 4th in early-drafts and is producing as the #1.

Im saying LGB will go early 2nd when were are close to the start of the season (and in the 4th prior to that) and produce as the #10-14.

But dont fall out of your chair if he puts up Michael Turner type #s.

I understood your point, I was just saying that I think his lack of receiving skills will make his ADP lower than Foster's was this season.

But all we had to go off of on Foster was...Week 14 SEA 13 34 2.62 0 0 4 54 0 4

Week 15 @STL 2 7 3.50 0 1 1 13 0 1

Week 16 @MIA 19 97 5.11 1 0 0 0 0 0

Week 17 NWE 20 119 5.95 2 0 3 26 0 4

Meanwhile Blount has shown remarkable ability for months from his > first carry against the Steelers > is currently averging 5.18 a carry and > will likely break 1000 yards this week. So while he wont have the "receiving" (this thread was non ppr btw) accolades, he has other things that will lend to his draft status come late August. And there is chance that he could become more involved in the passing game still, nothing too large, but at least as a supplemental 20 catches or so.

 

[thatguy]

In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.

I don't see Blount going higher than Foster.

Pretty sure he meant higher than Foster went in 2010 drafts--meaning higher than round 3/4. I think we can all agree that Foster will be a no-brainer top 5 pick next season, and Blount, undoubtedly, will not.

 

[Zaphod]

After being arguably the best FA RB pick up in 2010, he'll be at the peak of his hype curve in the 2011 draft and be way overvalued. His 2011 season will then appear to be a disappointment to those who drafted him way too early. Which will result in him being a great undervalued pickup in 2012 as a young 2 season veteran with awesome talent.

Any thoughts on his 2016 season?

Unfortunately he suffers a career ending injury in week 6 of the 2015 season.

 

[plyka]

As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.

The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .

By this logic then coaches always make the right decision because they see it in practice. Let me ask you, when Andy Reid, one of the best QB coaches of ALL TIME, sat Vick for the entire year last year (a year in his PRIME) as the 3rd string QB, did he make the right decision? What about the start of this year, when Vick was the backup QB for Kolb? Did he make the right decision due to all the stuff he saw in practice? The only reason Vick even got a chance was due to a luck injury to Kolb. Even after his terrific performance in the first few games, Reid still wanted to start Kolb once he got healthy, only due to intense pressure from fans and elsewhere did he finally change his mind and start Vick. Now Vick is a MVP candidate and one of the best QBs in the league. Did Reid make the right decision because he saw him more than us?What about Arian Foster as an undrafted free agent? The kid was on the practice sqaud of some team, any other team could have signed him for free. Now, after getting his shot, he is the best or one of the best RBs in the league. Did the coaches who saw him in practice make the right decision by keeping him on the practice squad? Peyton Hillis was traded for peanuts, did the Denver coaches make the right decision? The guy is now one of the best RBs in the league statistically.I could go on and on, but this post is getting long...

love this kind of logic - point out of few anomalies and suddenly every coach is clueless . . .yes coaches make mistakes, like we ALL do - but most of the time they do it right . . .we can compare our knowledge (looking at numbers and some games on Sunday), to theirs (watching their players every day live and on tape) . . .no comparison, most of the time they know VASTLY more than we do, and it's not even close . . .

But Plyka owns Blount in multiple dynasty leagues, he clearly knows what the Bucs should do better than the coaching staff.In Plykas defense, we all get a little biased with our players, i just think he is going a bit far.

\Oh god, please spare me....yes, yes, i know, it's unlikely to happen...keep the great posts coming "go deep!"

 

[plyka]

As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.

The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .

By this logic then coaches always make the right decision because they see it in practice. Let me ask you, when Andy Reid, one of the best QB coaches of ALL TIME, sat Vick for the entire year last year (a year in his PRIME) as the 3rd string QB, did he make the right decision? What about the start of this year, when Vick was the backup QB for Kolb? Did he make the right decision due to all the stuff he saw in practice? The only reason Vick even got a chance was due to a luck injury to Kolb. Even after his terrific performance in the first few games, Reid still wanted to start Kolb once he got healthy, only due to intense pressure from fans and elsewhere did he finally change his mind and start Vick. Now Vick is a MVP candidate and one of the best QBs in the league. Did Reid make the right decision because he saw him more than us?What about Arian Foster as an undrafted free agent? The kid was on the practice sqaud of some team, any other team could have signed him for free. Now, after getting his shot, he is the best or one of the best RBs in the league. Did the coaches who saw him in practice make the right decision by keeping him on the practice squad? Peyton Hillis was traded for peanuts, did the Denver coaches make the right decision? The guy is now one of the best RBs in the league statistically.I could go on and on, but this post is getting long...

love this kind of logic - point out of few anomalies and suddenly every coach is clueless . . .yes coaches make mistakes, like we ALL do - but most of the time they do it right . . .we can compare our knowledge (looking at numbers and some games on Sunday), to theirs (watching their players every day live and on tape) . . .no comparison, most of the time they know VASTLY more than we do, and it's not even close . . .

Oh god, another one? I can't believe that i have to explain this logic to you, but it goes something like this:Assuming that coaches are automatically right in all respects is ridiculous. Assuming that all coaches are wrong because a few of them made mistakes is equally as wrong. What is right is using your own eyes and your own mind to make the decision for yourself! I thought the "logic" of my post was abundantly clear, but I guess i was wrong. Next time I'll be sure to explain clear enough that even a 4 year old will understand. Sorry.

 

[Go deep]

As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.

The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .

By this logic then coaches always make the right decision because they see it in practice. Let me ask you, when Andy Reid, one of the best QB coaches of ALL TIME, sat Vick for the entire year last year (a year in his PRIME) as the 3rd string QB, did he make the right decision? What about the start of this year, when Vick was the backup QB for Kolb? Did he make the right decision due to all the stuff he saw in practice? The only reason Vick even got a chance was due to a luck injury to Kolb. Even after his terrific performance in the first few games, Reid still wanted to start Kolb once he got healthy, only due to intense pressure from fans and elsewhere did he finally change his mind and start Vick. Now Vick is a MVP candidate and one of the best QBs in the league. Did Reid make the right decision because he saw him more than us?What about Arian Foster as an undrafted free agent? The kid was on the practice sqaud of some team, any other team could have signed him for free. Now, after getting his shot, he is the best or one of the best RBs in the league. Did the coaches who saw him in practice make the right decision by keeping him on the practice squad? Peyton Hillis was traded for peanuts, did the Denver coaches make the right decision? The guy is now one of the best RBs in the league statistically.I could go on and on, but this post is getting long...

love this kind of logic - point out of few anomalies and suddenly every coach is clueless . . .yes coaches make mistakes, like we ALL do - but most of the time they do it right . . .we can compare our knowledge (looking at numbers and some games on Sunday), to theirs (watching their players every day live and on tape) . . .no comparison, most of the time they know VASTLY more than we do, and it's not even close . . .

Oh god, another one? I can't believe that i have to explain this logic to you, but it goes something like this:Assuming that coaches are automatically right in all respects is ridiculous. Assuming that all coaches are wrong because a few of them made mistakes is equally as wrong. What is right is using your own eyes and your own mind to make the decision for yourself! I thought the "logic" of my post was abundantly clear, but I guess i was wrong. Next time I'll be sure to explain clear enough that even a 4 year old will understand. Sorry.

Nobody is saying coaches are always right, we are just saying they are more likely to be right than you are on the current situation. Im not anti Blount, i honestly dont care how he does in the future. Im just giving my opinion on what i think of him.

 

[duaneok66]

As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.

The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .

By this logic then coaches always make the right decision because they see it in practice. Let me ask you, when Andy Reid, one of the best QB coaches of ALL TIME, sat Vick for the entire year last year (a year in his PRIME) as the 3rd string QB, did he make the right decision? What about the start of this year, when Vick was the backup QB for Kolb? Did he make the right decision due to all the stuff he saw in practice? The only reason Vick even got a chance was due to a luck injury to Kolb. Even after his terrific performance in the first few games, Reid still wanted to start Kolb once he got healthy, only due to intense pressure from fans and elsewhere did he finally change his mind and start Vick. Now Vick is a MVP candidate and one of the best QBs in the league. Did Reid make the right decision because he saw him more than us?What about Arian Foster as an undrafted free agent? The kid was on the practice sqaud of some team, any other team could have signed him for free. Now, after getting his shot, he is the best or one of the best RBs in the league. Did the coaches who saw him in practice make the right decision by keeping him on the practice squad? Peyton Hillis was traded for peanuts, did the Denver coaches make the right decision? The guy is now one of the best RBs in the league statistically.I could go on and on, but this post is getting long...

love this kind of logic - point out of few anomalies and suddenly every coach is clueless . . .yes coaches make mistakes, like we ALL do - but most of the time they do it right . . .we can compare our knowledge (looking at numbers and some games on Sunday), to theirs (watching their players every day live and on tape) . . .no comparison, most of the time they know VASTLY more than we do, and it's not even close . . .

Oh god, another one? I can't believe that i have to explain this logic to you, but it goes something like this:Assuming that coaches are automatically right in all respects is ridiculous. Assuming that all coaches are wrong because a few of them made mistakes is equally as wrong. What is right is using your own eyes and your own mind to make the decision for yourself! I thought the "logic" of my post was abundantly clear, but I guess i was wrong. Next time I'll be sure to explain clear enough that even a 4 year old will understand. Sorry.

nowhere in my post did I say coaches are right all the time - but to suggest that a guy behind a keyboard is more likely to be right about a player than a coach who is around that player 60+ hours a week is beyond ludicrous . . .

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

It is certainly a possibilty that Blount isnt fully replaced, but he is not an every down RB.

I'm convinced that someone beat you to him on the waiver wire and you're still bitter. That, or you didn't watch him play at all this year.

Ive watched almost every snap from every Bucs game this year. It is my opinion that he is an OK RB, but not talented enough to be a every down RB. RB's come and go in this league, very few have the staying power to be productive backs for years. Nothing i have seen from Blount has made me think he is going to be one of those backs. Him and this situation reminds me alot of Samkon Gado from a few years back. Its possible he is the Bucs every down back by the end of the 2011 season, but i would bet good money that he is not.

What about Blount's situation (a rookie who did not start until week 7 and is going to put up 1000 yards rushing on propably less than 200 carries on a team that was dreadful at running the ball until he got there) makes you think he won't be the starter going forward?Let's take it one step farther. Since 2000 so over a 10 year span the Bucs have had a grand total of 2 rb's rush for over 1000 yards. Cadillac Willams in 2005, and Warrick Dunn in 2000. So the Bucs who have finally found a young guy for their young offense that is able to churn yards on the ground for this team and franchise is going to be easily replaced by the end of 2011?I think Blount is a hidden Gem and will have to play dreadful to not be the starter by the end of 2011. He is playing with a chip on his shoulder and proving that his power, strength and good speed for a guy his size is translating from college to the NFL.

 

[gandalas]

In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.

I don't see Blount going higher than Foster.

Yeah...I was wondering after reading this as well in what universe the #1 RB will be drafted after Blount.

 

[Go deep]

When I watch Blount, the main thing I see about him is that he spends a lot of time behind the LOS while he picks a hole to run from. This generally helps him break off bigger runs, but it makes him a liability on the goal-line, where you generally just need to put your head down and try and pick up a yard or two (which he should theoretically be good at because he's so big). However, it's also clear that he has rare agility for someone of his size, and once he gets into the open field, he's very difficult to bring down. It's also worth noting that he probably didn't take a handoff from a quarterback who was under center in his two years at Oregon, so an NFL offense has been a huge adjustment for him.With an off-season of work, there's no reason to think that he won't get more comfortable with the offense and more proficient in short-yardage situation. If that's the case, then I think we can expect big things out of him next season. Also, the Bucs haven't shown any inclination to go out and sign high-priced free agents. It seems like they want to focus on building internally, and with a core of Freeman, Benn, Williams, Winslow, and Blount they have a number of good pieces for the future. I also think they were burned by signing Derrick Ward two years ago, and now they will probably pursue a running back who would compliment, and not replace, Blount.

It is certainly a possibilty that Blount isnt fully replaced, but he is not an every down RB.

I'm convinced that someone beat you to him on the waiver wire and you're still bitter. That, or you didn't watch him play at all this year.

Ive watched almost every snap from every Bucs game this year. It is my opinion that he is an OK RB, but not talented enough to be a every down RB. RB's come and go in this league, very few have the staying power to be productive backs for years. Nothing i have seen from Blount has made me think he is going to be one of those backs. Him and this situation reminds me alot of Samkon Gado from a few years back. Its possible he is the Bucs every down back by the end of the 2011 season, but i would bet good money that he is not.

What about Blount's situation (a rookie who did not start until week 7 and is going to put up 1000 yards rushing on propably less than 200 carries on a team that was dreadful at running the ball until he got there) makes you think he won't be the starter going forward?Let's take it one step farther. Since 2000 so over a 10 year span the Bucs have had a grand total of 2 rb's rush for over 1000 yards. Cadillac Willams in 2005, and Warrick Dunn in 2000. So the Bucs who have finally found a young guy for their young offense that is able to churn yards on the ground for this team and franchise is going to be easily replaced by the end of 2011?I think Blount is a hidden Gem and will have to play dreadful to not be the starter by the end of 2011. He is playing with a chip on his shoulder and proving that his power, strength and good speed for a guy his size is translating from college to the NFL.

Because i think any decent RB coming in with Fresh legs half way through the season on a good Bucs team would be putting up similar numbers. He isnt fast, not very decisive, cant catch or pass protect, his team doesnt trust him in short yardage situations and he just looks like a "plodder" to me. He has shown some good athletisism for a guy his size, but i dont think he has what it take to be an every down RB. It is only his rookie season, and he could improve in some of those areas, but unless he does, he will not be the starter there for long. I dont think what the Bucs have done over the last 10 years means anything. Sure, Blount is a better runner than what they have had recently, but thats not saying much when you look at the RB's the Bucs have had.Either way, this is just my opinion, i could be wrong, it wouldnt be the first time.