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I've put what think would be the most likely destinations for him...but who knows. But it certainly seems like he's going the Joe Montana/KC route.
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No way he ends up with the Vikes. Childress is a control freak with QB's. There's no way Brett does not remain the gunslinger and I highly doubt Childress wants any QB telling him to bug off.He would look good in Purple, and it would definitely make that Week 1 matchup between Green Bay and Minnesota a real humdinger.![]()
Full circle, certainly an interesting option.Just throwing this out there, but is Atlanta even an option?
I never hear them mentioned in this Great Favre Debacle and I was curious as to why?
I think they have plenty of cap space.The Pack are in a bad spot because they can't keep him and his $12million cap number. They want to get something for him even if it is late pick. Who has the cap space for $12 mill unless he renegotiates?
i think that's an intriguing choice. the niners are building a good young nucleus, especially on defense, and nobody really expects them to contend this year. put favre on that team and you have a similar situation as the '07 packers (you know, before they blew by everyone's expectations).if the niners are ready to give up on smith, and they probably should, i could see it.Where is the San Francisco option?Imagine him and Mike Martz![]()
Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.Simple.
This or a similar phrase always seems to come out of peoples' mouths when they pull Redskins out of their "six" in conversations like this.Other (Redskins).
If, in fact, this situation does come to a trade situation, little Danny Snyder will be throwing everything he's got at the Packers for him. At least whatever it would take to outbid others. The Redskins are known for trading away their draft picks anyway.
I've got to think Danny is quitely sitting back and monitoring this situation. The move would actually make sense for Washington as well.
trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.Simple.
He'd spend a lot of time on his backside if that happened. The OL won't be able to protect the lefty.Banger said:The first place I thought of is KC. He could single handedly make that team A LOT better. This way he's in a different conference (I don't know if they play GB) so the "distractions" will be a lot less there. Good football city, good fan base and they need QB help more than perhaps any other team.
He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.Packers have the cap room to keep him..trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.Simple.
I remember how Pissy Brett looked after he got injured in Dallas and had to watch Rodgers play in his stead. Having Brett ride the pine = lost season for Green Bay. Much, much worse than if Favre had just stayed retired.I am all for it.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.Packers have the cap room to keep him..trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.Simple.
of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.this is a horrible idea for the packers.favre knows this. other teams know this. good luck with trading him under these circumstances.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.Packers have the cap room to keep him..trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.Simple.
Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)Favre has zero control over the situation.zero.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.this is a horrible idea for the packers.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.Packers have the cap room to keep him..trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.Simple.
You're overstating this a tad. I don't think that Green Bay can afford to keep Favre from a cap standpoint, and they also can't afford to do this without essentially writing off Aaron Rodgers as a prospect for them IMHO. Fortunately for them under such a scenario, they drafted Brohm, but this team is now invested in Favre's retirement and has proceeded with most of an offseason with that as its assumption. It would be a mess for him to return. The bottom line is that Favre has leverage, but it only comes via recriminations and making the Packers look bad to their fans/Favre supporters, who will put pressure on the team to "do right by Favre". This all comes down to how ugly Favre wants to play this thing.Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.
Simple.
It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.
IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.
The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.
He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.
1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.
that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.
that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)
2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.
He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.
Packers have the cap room to keep him.
.
the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".
they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.
this is a horrible idea for the packers.
1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.
2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.
3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)
Favre has zero control over the situation.
zero.
technically, you are right. GB does have the decision making power in this situation.however, they are extremely limited in what they can do (again, assuming they aren't smart enough to just let him start for the pack). the things they'd like to do aren't really feasible, which limits their power greatly.also, they have the most to lose here. favre has power here b/c of the contract and b/c of the headache that this situation can create for the packers.ideally, i assume they'd like to trade him out of GB to a place he can't hurt them. who's going to give them anything unless favre restructures? it comes back to favre.if their 2nd choice would be to hold him hostage, i've already discussed why that's insane for the pack. they have the power to do it, but really, they just can't.that brings us back to releasing him.the only big chip the pack really has to play is their ability to hold onto him until camp breaks and then release him when it's too late to sign on somewhere else. now, if GB really wants to give favre the byron leftwich treatment, more power to them. that's just wrong and favre can still make training camp hell for the pack as the wait drags on.what's favre got to lose? he'll either get to play football somewhere or make $13 mill. watching thompson's pride ruin the packers' season. favre could care less about his image, but it won't take a hit. teddy's the one that'll look like an ### in this mess.nothing to lose=power.Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)Favre has zero control over the situation.zero.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.this is a horrible idea for the packers.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.Packers have the cap room to keep him..trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.Simple.
Favre has a reputation as a good guy and a good team player at stake. It's not like he can play all of his cards without some sort of hit to his reputation. The truth is that both sides seem to be gearing up for a high stakes (for Green Bay and Favre fans, anyway) game of chicken. I don't believe that this is going to end well.technically, you are right. GB does have the decision making power in this situation.however, they are extremely limited in what they can do (again, assuming they aren't smart enough to just let him start for the pack). the things they'd like to do aren't really feasible, which limits their power greatly.Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.
Simple.
It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.
IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.
The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.
He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.
1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.
that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.
that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)
2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.
He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.
Packers have the cap room to keep him.
.
the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".
they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.
this is a horrible idea for the packers.
1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.
2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.
3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)
Favre has zero control over the situation.
zero.
also, they have the most to lose here.
favre has power here b/c of the contract and b/c of the headache that this situation can create for the packers.
ideally, i assume they'd like to trade him out of GB to a place he can't hurt them. who's going to give them anything unless favre restructures? it comes back to favre.
if their 2nd choice would be to hold him hostage, i've already discussed why that's insane for the pack. they have the power to do it, but really, they just can't.
that brings us back to releasing him.
the only big chip the pack really has to play is their ability to hold onto him until camp breaks and then release him when it's too late to sign on somewhere else. now, if GB really wants to give favre the byron leftwich treatment, more power to them. that's just wrong and favre can still make training camp hell for the pack as the wait drags on.
what's favre got to lose? he'll either get to play football somewhere or make $13 mill. watching thompson's pride ruin the packers' season. favre could care less about his image, but it won't take a hit. teddy's the one that'll look like an ### in this mess.
nothing to lose=power.
Yes they do. Approx. $32M without Favre, and $20M with him.The only player now that needs a contract is Grant.Burning Sensation said:I think they have plenty of cap space.mydixie said:The Pack are in a bad spot because they can't keep him and his $12million cap number. They want to get something for him even if it is late pick. Who has the cap space for $12 mill unless he renegotiates?
I agree with this.Favre still cannot control the situation no matter how Pollard spins it.Favre has a reputation as a good guy and a good team player at stake. It's not like he can play all of his cards without some sort of hit to his reputation. The truth is that both sides seem to be gearing up for a high stakes (for Green Bay and Favre fans, anyway) game of chicken. I don't believe that this is going to end well.technically, you are right. GB does have the decision making power in this situation.however, they are extremely limited in what they can do (again, assuming they aren't smart enough to just let him start for the pack). the things they'd like to do aren't really feasible, which limits their power greatly.Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.
Simple.
It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.
IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.
The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.
He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.
1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.
that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.
that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)
2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.
He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.
Packers have the cap room to keep him.
.
the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".
they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.
this is a horrible idea for the packers.
1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.
2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.
3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)
Favre has zero control over the situation.
zero.
also, they have the most to lose here.
favre has power here b/c of the contract and b/c of the headache that this situation can create for the packers.
ideally, i assume they'd like to trade him out of GB to a place he can't hurt them. who's going to give them anything unless favre restructures? it comes back to favre.
if their 2nd choice would be to hold him hostage, i've already discussed why that's insane for the pack. they have the power to do it, but really, they just can't.
that brings us back to releasing him.
the only big chip the pack really has to play is their ability to hold onto him until camp breaks and then release him when it's too late to sign on somewhere else. now, if GB really wants to give favre the byron leftwich treatment, more power to them. that's just wrong and favre can still make training camp hell for the pack as the wait drags on.
what's favre got to lose? he'll either get to play football somewhere or make $13 mill. watching thompson's pride ruin the packers' season. favre could care less about his image, but it won't take a hit. teddy's the one that'll look like an ### in this mess.
nothing to lose=power.
i don't think his rep. is at stake at all here. what's he trying to do that's so bad? b/c the team doesn't want him, he's willing to forgo the $39 mill. that's owed to him in order to play football. he's not trying to do anything detrimental to the packers. the only way this goes bad for the packers is if thompson, b/c of pride, tries to hold favre hostage.the guy just wants to play football. he's not demanding to play for the pack.Favre has a reputation as a good guy and a good team player at stake. It's not like he can play all of his cards without some sort of hit to his reputation. The truth is that both sides seem to be gearing up for a high stakes (for Green Bay and Favre fans, anyway) game of chicken. I don't believe that this is going to end well.technically, you are right. GB does have the decision making power in this situation.however, they are extremely limited in what they can do (again, assuming they aren't smart enough to just let him start for the pack). the things they'd like to do aren't really feasible, which limits their power greatly.Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.
Simple.
It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.
IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.
The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.
He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.
1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.
that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.
that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)
2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.
He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.
Packers have the cap room to keep him.
.
the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".
they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.
this is a horrible idea for the packers.
1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.
2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.
3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)
Favre has zero control over the situation.
zero.
also, they have the most to lose here.
favre has power here b/c of the contract and b/c of the headache that this situation can create for the packers.
ideally, i assume they'd like to trade him out of GB to a place he can't hurt them. who's going to give them anything unless favre restructures? it comes back to favre.
if their 2nd choice would be to hold him hostage, i've already discussed why that's insane for the pack. they have the power to do it, but really, they just can't.
that brings us back to releasing him.
the only big chip the pack really has to play is their ability to hold onto him until camp breaks and then release him when it's too late to sign on somewhere else. now, if GB really wants to give favre the byron leftwich treatment, more power to them. that's just wrong and favre can still make training camp hell for the pack as the wait drags on.
what's favre got to lose? he'll either get to play football somewhere or make $13 mill. watching thompson's pride ruin the packers' season. favre could care less about his image, but it won't take a hit. teddy's the one that'll look like an ### in this mess.
nothing to lose=power.
Well, that's certainly the 100% pro-Favre, anti-Thompson take.i don't think his rep. is at stake at all here. what's he trying to do that's so bad? b/c the team doesn't want him, he's willing to forgo the $39 mill. that's owed to him in order to play football. he's not trying to do anything detrimental to the packers. the only way this goes bad for the packers is if thompson, b/c of pride, tries to hold favre hostage.the guy just wants to play football. he's not demanding to play for the pack.Favre has a reputation as a good guy and a good team player at stake. It's not like he can play all of his cards without some sort of hit to his reputation. The truth is that both sides seem to be gearing up for a high stakes (for Green Bay and Favre fans, anyway) game of chicken. I don't believe that this is going to end well.technically, you are right. GB does have the decision making power in this situation.however, they are extremely limited in what they can do (again, assuming they aren't smart enough to just let him start for the pack). the things they'd like to do aren't really feasible, which limits their power greatly.Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.
Simple.
It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.
IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.
The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.
He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.
1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.
that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.
that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)
2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.
He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.
Packers have the cap room to keep him.
.
the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".
they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.
this is a horrible idea for the packers.
1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.
2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.
3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)
Favre has zero control over the situation.
zero.
also, they have the most to lose here.
favre has power here b/c of the contract and b/c of the headache that this situation can create for the packers.
ideally, i assume they'd like to trade him out of GB to a place he can't hurt them. who's going to give them anything unless favre restructures? it comes back to favre.
if their 2nd choice would be to hold him hostage, i've already discussed why that's insane for the pack. they have the power to do it, but really, they just can't.
that brings us back to releasing him.
the only big chip the pack really has to play is their ability to hold onto him until camp breaks and then release him when it's too late to sign on somewhere else. now, if GB really wants to give favre the byron leftwich treatment, more power to them. that's just wrong and favre can still make training camp hell for the pack as the wait drags on.
what's favre got to lose? he'll either get to play football somewhere or make $13 mill. watching thompson's pride ruin the packers' season. favre could care less about his image, but it won't take a hit. teddy's the one that'll look like an ### in this mess.
nothing to lose=power.
that's the reality of the situation. for some reason, people are angry at favre now, but if this drags out, favre will look like the victim.
there is no risk to favre's rep. here.
i have no idea how anyone sees it like that. he's not making demands. he's saying "if you don't want me, just release me". nothing unreasonable about that. they are more than welcome to trade him and get some value. he's given no indication that he'd try to prevent that. have you seen favre in the press calling thomspon out? of course not. (that may change if thompson tries to hold favre hostage).I agree with this.Favre still cannot control the situation no matter how Pollard spins it.Favre has a reputation as a good guy and a good team player at stake. It's not like he can play all of his cards without some sort of hit to his reputation. The truth is that both sides seem to be gearing up for a high stakes (for Green Bay and Favre fans, anyway) game of chicken. I don't believe that this is going to end well.technically, you are right. GB does have the decision making power in this situation.however, they are extremely limited in what they can do (again, assuming they aren't smart enough to just let him start for the pack). the things they'd like to do aren't really feasible, which limits their power greatly.Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.
Simple.
It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.
IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.
The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.
He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.
1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.
that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.
that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)
2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.
He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.
Packers have the cap room to keep him.
.
the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".
they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.
this is a horrible idea for the packers.
1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.
2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.
3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)
Favre has zero control over the situation.
zero.
also, they have the most to lose here.
favre has power here b/c of the contract and b/c of the headache that this situation can create for the packers.
ideally, i assume they'd like to trade him out of GB to a place he can't hurt them. who's going to give them anything unless favre restructures? it comes back to favre.
if their 2nd choice would be to hold him hostage, i've already discussed why that's insane for the pack. they have the power to do it, but really, they just can't.
that brings us back to releasing him.
the only big chip the pack really has to play is their ability to hold onto him until camp breaks and then release him when it's too late to sign on somewhere else. now, if GB really wants to give favre the byron leftwich treatment, more power to them. that's just wrong and favre can still make training camp hell for the pack as the wait drags on.
what's favre got to lose? he'll either get to play football somewhere or make $13 mill. watching thompson's pride ruin the packers' season. favre could care less about his image, but it won't take a hit. teddy's the one that'll look like an ### in this mess.
nothing to lose=power.
Favre is the one looking like the ### here because he retired, the Packers moved on,
now he wants to come back under HIS terms.
Well it won't be under HIS terms, it be be for what's good for the Green Bay Packer organization.
i'm not even a favre fan.maybe i'm just not seeing, what's favre doing that's out of line?Well, that's certainly the 100% pro-Favre, anti-Thompson take.i don't think his rep. is at stake at all here. what's he trying to do that's so bad? b/c the team doesn't want him, he's willing to forgo the $39 mill. that's owed to him in order to play football. he's not trying to do anything detrimental to the packers. the only way this goes bad for the packers is if thompson, b/c of pride, tries to hold favre hostage.the guy just wants to play football. he's not demanding to play for the pack.Favre has a reputation as a good guy and a good team player at stake. It's not like he can play all of his cards without some sort of hit to his reputation. The truth is that both sides seem to be gearing up for a high stakes (for Green Bay and Favre fans, anyway) game of chicken. I don't believe that this is going to end well.technically, you are right. GB does have the decision making power in this situation.however, they are extremely limited in what they can do (again, assuming they aren't smart enough to just let him start for the pack). the things they'd like to do aren't really feasible, which limits their power greatly.Green Bay holds all the cards, they control the situation.I completely disagree with your view.of course they say the won't release him. why would they say that? they are going to try to find a trade.favre ultimately has more power in this situation. he'll decide if he wants to restructure. he won't do it unless they find him a favorable situation.He will not be released. The Packers have already announced this yesterday.He may be dealt provided he restructures his contract, if not, he will simply stay in Green Bay.trading a 38 year old with $39 mill. due to him sounds impossible. it seems clear to me that they will not be able to deal himthey'll have 2 options (assuming they are commited to rebuilding after barely missing the SB)Thank you.I love all these Bear and Viking fans voting for their team.Todem said:Favre will play for the Packers if he plays again.
Simple.
It's a freaking pipe dream, gentlemen.
IT WILL NEVER and I mean EVER happen.
The Packers are not foolish enough to deal Favre within the division.
He will be a backup to Rodgers or he will be dealt to a trash can AFC team, period.
1- hold brett hostage and have him backup rodgers.
that sounds like a genius move, doesn't it. aside from the horrible PR, imagine how that'll go just from a football POV. the packers have a stout opening sched. anyway. putting favre in behind rodgers is asking for trouble. rodgers will have a permanent crick in his neck from looking over his shoulder. nice way to start the rebuilding project, huh.
that's just briliant strategy. let's put ourselves on the hook for $39 mill (while trying to rebuild) only to destroy this apparent franchise QB to be's confidence. why pay money to bring on the same problem they were trying to avoid? (favre getting in the way of rebuilding)
2- release him and he'll go wherever he wants.
He will NOT be traded to a division rival, nor will he be released, free to sign with a division rival.
Packers have the cap room to keep him.
.
the packers' only strength comes from their willingness to keep and pay favre to not play. i'm not sure people around here are grasping the problem with that "solution".
they are trying to help rodgers succeed and favre hanging around on the roster, with team paying him $13 mill., would be the worst case scenario for rodgers. it's just not a smart way to try to rebuild. it won't be easy either way, but favre on the roster will make things the hardest.
this is a horrible idea for the packers.
1. If Green Bay wants to cut Favre, they can cut Favre.
2. If Green Bay wants to keep Favre as a back up to Rodgers, they have the power to do this as well.
3. If GB wants to trade BF, they can deal him to any team they wish. (as long as their trading partner has the necessary cap room)
Favre has zero control over the situation.
zero.
also, they have the most to lose here.
favre has power here b/c of the contract and b/c of the headache that this situation can create for the packers.
ideally, i assume they'd like to trade him out of GB to a place he can't hurt them. who's going to give them anything unless favre restructures? it comes back to favre.
if their 2nd choice would be to hold him hostage, i've already discussed why that's insane for the pack. they have the power to do it, but really, they just can't.
that brings us back to releasing him.
the only big chip the pack really has to play is their ability to hold onto him until camp breaks and then release him when it's too late to sign on somewhere else. now, if GB really wants to give favre the byron leftwich treatment, more power to them. that's just wrong and favre can still make training camp hell for the pack as the wait drags on.
what's favre got to lose? he'll either get to play football somewhere or make $13 mill. watching thompson's pride ruin the packers' season. favre could care less about his image, but it won't take a hit. teddy's the one that'll look like an ### in this mess.
nothing to lose=power.
that's the reality of the situation. for some reason, people are angry at favre now, but if this drags out, favre will look like the victim.
there is no risk to favre's rep. here.
Constantly changing his mind. Giving his word in no uncertain terms, and then going back on it. This isn't like professional boxing where, if you unretire, you just schedule another match and start training. The team needs to plan and build a roster and manage cap space. The players need to know that Aaron Rodgers is or is not their leader for the year at QB. Etc.i'm not even a favre fan.
maybe i'm just not seeing, what's favre doing that's out of line?
That's fair only because you're looking at it from the perspective of this season. Favre's been holding the franchise hostage for years, and the team finally got fed up because they can't make themselves look like asses for giving Rodgers the starting job instead of begging Favre to come back again. I agree, a player who's been with a team for so many years that obviously lost his spot ought to be released. That's not how it works in the NFL though. Lamont Jordon would like a release from the Raiders too (as opposed to being a bench warmer or being traded to a club he has no iterest in playing for), but it's not in their best interest to do so while they've got him locked up.maybe i'm just not seeing, what's favre doing that's out of line?
You think Favre wants to return "as insurance" for somebody?How about a Charger as Insurance for Rivers who is coming off of ACL surgery? Handing off to LT and throwing short passes to Gates and Chambers in a warm weather city sounds like a good way to end your career.
no, it's not hard to understand.as far as i can tell, favre isn't atttempting to stop the packers from doing any of those things, is he?Constantly changing his mind. Giving his word in no uncertain terms, and then going back on it. This isn't like professional boxing where, if you unretire, you just schedule another match and start training. The team needs to plan and build a roster and manage cap space. The players need to know that Aaron Rodgers is or is not their leader for the year at QB. Etc.i'm not even a favre fan.
maybe i'm just not seeing, what's favre doing that's out of line?
This isn't that hard to understand, is it?