From your mouth.....And Andy Reid isn't going anywhere.My guess is that Mike Martz will be hired as the head coach of some team and will leave the Lions. Any idea where he might end up?
Some teams who might to change coaches:
Cleveland
Oakland
NYG
Eagles
Arizona
Oakland and New York seem like the best fits to me.
I'd take the Mad Scientist in a heart beat right now. I love Shell as a hall of fame former Raider player, but he is not head coach material. Martz might not be either but we need to take a chance on someone who could inject some semblance of offensive output.From your mouth.....And Andy Reid isn't going anywhere.My guess is that Mike Martz will be hired as the head coach of some team and will leave the Lions. Any idea where he might end up?
Some teams who might to change coaches:
Cleveland
Oakland
NYG
Eagles
Arizona
Oakland and New York seem like the best fits to me.
His starting QB is basically a scrub.One of his starting receivers was a safety by trade. His backup QB has more catches than a certain USC WR drafted 10th overall. If he was a head coach, he could bring in the players which suit his system. I would take Martz this quickly in Oakland. If we had an offense to go with that blossoming defense.... look out.Martz has largely been a disappointment this year. The Lions offense isn't very good, and his QB has more INTs than TDs. With a good amount of talent, it was reasonable to expect an excellent OC to get very good results. Martz' stock took a hit after this year, IMO, so he probably won't be at the top of many coaching lists.
I'm a big Martz fan but his resume was better this time a year ago.
This is exactly what I thought... I know he doesn't have the personel but he does have some talent (KJ, Roy)... converesly, I also think that since the Lions are so awful this year that Martz desire to stay may be quickly fading...Martz has largely been a disappointment this year. The Lions offense isn't very good, and his QB has more INTs than TDs. With a good amount of talent, it was reasonable to expect an excellent OC to get very good results. Martz' stock took a hit after this year, IMO, so he probably won't be at the top of many coaching lists.I'm a big Martz fan but his resume was better this time a year ago.
There is no way I see him ending up in NY. Arizona might be a great fit though, they're defense is decent enough to be able to hold a lead... they just can't seem t get one.
Bingo. With some of the problems he had with Kyle Turley and the Rams front office I really can't see the Mara family giving him the keys. Love the idea of Martz running the Giants offense of course, but it'd never happen. If Jeff Fischer ever leaves Tennessee, I would hope the Giants would get rid of Coughlin 5 mins later and swing for the fenses.There is no way I see him ending up in NY. Arizona might be a great fit though, they're defense is decent enough to be able to hold a lead... they just can't seem t get one.No way that the Mara family would ever entertain Martz Madness coaching Big Blue.
ASU search likely down to 6
Titans offensive coordinator Chow re-emerges as possible candidate
Jeff Metcalfe
The Arizona Republic
Dec. 7, 2006 12:00 AM
The storm before the calm struck Wednesday in the Arizona State football coaching search.
A dizzying and contradictory array of media and Internet reports about who's in and who's out only served to confuse the truth and make it easier for Vice President for Athletics Lisa Love to keep her secret.
Love is not expected to name Dirk Koetter's replacement today. The timing beyond that remains unclear, although an announcement by Monday at the latest seems likely.
The most reliable information narrows the search to six.
Whether Norm Chow, Dennis Erickson, Steve Mariucci, Mike Martz, Mike Price and Mike Riley are all still in play or Love is working on an even shorter list is difficult to assess.
Tennessee Titans offensive coordinator Chow re-emerged in the mix Wednesday night after withdrawing from the North Carolina State search earlier in the day. Chow is described as a "very strong candidate" by a source.
Oregon State coach Riley and former NFL coach Mariucci also surfaced as viable candidates.
Oregon State Athletic Director Bob DeCarolis could not be reached for comment on whether Love has sought permission to speak with Riley.
Mariucci, working the NFL Network, was not available for comment. He was reported last month by HOF mag.com to be a candidate to replace Dennis Green if the Cardinals make a change.
Sources said that Price, who has talked with Love, is not a front-runner primarily because of being fired before coaching a game at Alabama in 2003 due to excessive drinking and behavior at a strip club.
Idaho coach Erickson similarly might have trouble explaining a 1995 DUI arrest to ASU President Michael Crow. Idaho Athletic Director Rob Spear said again Wednesday that he has not been contacted by Love.
Texas Christian coach Gary Patterson continued to tell the Fort Worth (Texas) Star-Telegram that he has not been contacted about jobs at ASU or Miami. Patterson has a $1 million buyout in his contract that almost certainly precludes ASU from pursuing him.
The common threads among those still in the running is their age (50-plus) and extensive experience. Only Chow has not been a head coach, but he has 32 years of college coaching, mostly as an offensive coordinator, including on three national championship teams.
Just two days ago, Lee Corso referred to the ASU program as a sleeping giant. Martz was a longtime assistant at ASU, Chow would be getting his first gig in a major conference, and Mooch really is a good college coach waiting to happen (again).Why ASU thinks some of those coaches (Martz Chow Mooch) would coach them is beyond me. It amazes me how some schools over value their head coaching position. I guess it's all abouth the money, but it sounds like a dead end job to me.
Well, I am inclined to agree with the point but disagree with the logic.Martz stock isnt any higher but it isnt the results so much as his continued arrogance he showed in STL. He still wont run the ball enough. Some drives in the second half are 7 passes and no runs even with a less than a single score deficit or lead. He continues to call plays that are risky or dont work with the personnel he has - he wont change QBs. He is calling ridiculous timeouts and the team is often out of TOs before one quarter each half has elapsed.Basically, he has confirmed all the negatives about his leadership and choices with his handling of the Leos, including game management issues. The production has been marked improvement over previous years - he can still create offense and production. Its just all the game/team management negatives are still there.Martz has largely been a disappointment this year. The Lions offense isn't very good, and his QB has more INTs than TDs. With a good amount of talent, it was reasonable to expect an excellent OC to get very good results. Martz' stock took a hit after this year, IMO, so he probably won't be at the top of many coaching lists.I'm a big Martz fan but his resume was better this time a year ago.
I was stunned that Mooch didn't land the Michigan State jobWhy ASU thinks some of those coaches (Martz Chow Mooch) would coach them is beyond me. It amazes me how some schools over value their head coaching position. I guess it's all abouth the money, but it sounds like a dead end job to me.
If Martz wants the best chance of success and prove that he was and still is an offensive Genius then Arizona is where it is at. Of course they will need to draft Marshawn Lynch. Edge is crap and they need a young stud RB to go along with Leinart, Fitz, and Boldin. Then spend their next 6 draft picks on O-line and defense along with some free agents. That team could be a sleeping giant.
Just taking a quick look at p-f-r, the Lions have gone up from 27th to 14th in yards, 28th to 21st in points. Whether or not you think he has a good amount of talent - you have to be in the minority there considering everyone here wants Millen fired - I hope we can agree that he has pretty much the same talent as Detroit had a year ago, but for the change from Harrington to Kitna.That said, I sortof agree with your point in that last sentence. It may not matter though.And the Lions had a couple of coaches get promoted with other teams last year. It's like a karma reward for coaching under Millen.Martz has largely been a disappointment this year. The Lions offense isn't very good, and his QB has more INTs than TDs. With a good amount of talent, it was reasonable to expect an excellent OC to get very good results. Martz' stock took a hit after this year, IMO, so he probably won't be at the top of many coaching lists.I'm a big Martz fan but his resume was better this time a year ago.
Mooch was a college head coach for only one year, and he was not very good that year (6-6 with a very undisciplined team).Just two days ago, Lee Corso referred to the ASU program as a sleeping giant. Martz was a longtime assistant at ASU, Chow would be getting his first gig in a major conference, and Mooch really is a good college coach waiting to happen (again).
I was stunned that Mooch didn't land the Michigan State jobWhy ASU thinks some of those coaches (Martz Chow Mooch) would coach them is beyond me. It amazes me how some schools over value their head coaching position. I guess it's all abouth the money, but it sounds like a dead end job to me.
I think martz at this point in his career is a bad match for the college game. He is a very surly, control freak that is not exactly a people person. He's gonna have trouble adjusting to 18 year olds who aren't being played to play (Well maybe at ASU they are) and I think his approach doesn't translate well at this point. Martz is used to having a group of guys who can take one of his infamous ### chewings and move on to the next episode. College kids are not going to adjust well having a guy just eat them up every single day not considering the people and school side of the experience. Mariucci is much more easy going and is likable enough for parents to want their kids to go to ASU. i think the college game is perfect for Mariucci and ASU is not a bad place to coach. I disagree with it being a "sleeping giant" but they certainly can be a top 4 Pac 10 team every year.Just two days ago, Lee Corso referred to the ASU program as a sleeping giant. Martz was a longtime assistant at ASU, Chow would be getting his first gig in a major conference, and Mooch really is a good college coach waiting to happen (again).Why ASU thinks some of those coaches (Martz Chow Mooch) would coach them is beyond me. It amazes me how some schools over value their head coaching position. I guess it's all abouth the money, but it sounds like a dead end job to me.
One year is a standard metric now?Mooch was a college head coach for only one year, and he was not very good that year (6-6 with a very undisciplined team).Just two days ago, Lee Corso referred to the ASU program as a sleeping giant. Martz was a longtime assistant at ASU, Chow would be getting his first gig in a major conference, and Mooch really is a good college coach waiting to happen (again).
D'oh.I seemed to remember him getting a lot of pub for doing well. Bad memory I guess.Keep him NFL Network.Mooch was a college head coach for only one year, and he was not very good that year (6-6 with a very undisciplined team).Just two days ago, Lee Corso referred to the ASU program as a sleeping giant. Martz was a longtime assistant at ASU, Chow would be getting his first gig in a major conference, and Mooch really is a good college coach waiting to happen (again).
I agree the Cards are a sleeping giant, and I agree they need to revamp that oline. They need to spend everything they have including draft picks on the oline. Edge is a prime example of no matter how good a running back is, without an oline your numbers will suck. Their defensive isn't that bad, infact write it down, if they get a good coach and fix that oline they will win their division.You heard it first from KIP!If Martz wants the best chance of success and prove that he was and still is an offensive Genius then Arizona is where it is at. Of course they will need to draft Marshawn Lynch. Edge is crap and they need a young stud RB to go along with Leinart, Fitz, and Boldin. Then spend their next 6 draft picks on O-line and defense along with some free agents. That team could be a sleeping giant.....right? I hope?
It's his entire college head coaching career, which is what I was speaking to.if you want to look at his pro career, he had two mediocre stints as head coach.His teams have above-average offense, atrocious defense, and poor discipline. Not a winning combination in the Pac-10.One year is a standard metric now?Mooch was a college head coach for only one year, and he was not very good that year (6-6 with a very undisciplined team).Just two days ago, Lee Corso referred to the ASU program as a sleeping giant. Martz was a longtime assistant at ASU, Chow would be getting his first gig in a major conference, and Mooch really is a good college coach waiting to happen (again).