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Where in the world are the middle-aged dummies? Worldwide top 31 song countdown. (1 Viewer)
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Pip's Invitation
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I see what you did there!
Mister CIA
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Frame this one.
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Mister CIA
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I just discovered Where You'll Find Me Now, by Neutral Milk Hotel.
krista4
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Oh boy, the "known to and loved by me" list today is a lot longer than usual. No time for commentary but at least can give a little shout-out to:
Band on the Run by Wings
Which Way to America by Living Colour
Fu-Gee-La by Fugees
Zombie by Fela Kuti
You Can Get It If You Really Want by Jimmy Cliff
Spring Rain by Go-Betweens, but I own this song
Billy Two by The Clean
Sundown by Gordon Lightfoot
California Dreamin' by The Mamas & the Papas
Venus and Mars/Rock Show by Wings
All Along the Watchtower by Jimi
Rebellion (Lies) by Arcade Fire
Sugar Mountain by Neil Young - I'd have this at worst as my 110th favorite Neil song
The Weight by The Band
I know some of those are repeats (I keep the list, ya know), but I didn't shout them all out before. Strongest "known-to-me" round so far.
Band on the Run by Wings
Which Way to America by Living Colour
Fu-Gee-La by Fugees
Zombie by Fela Kuti
You Can Get It If You Really Want by Jimmy Cliff
Spring Rain by Go-Betweens, but I own this song
Billy Two by The Clean
Sundown by Gordon Lightfoot
California Dreamin' by The Mamas & the Papas
Venus and Mars/Rock Show by Wings
All Along the Watchtower by Jimi
Rebellion (Lies) by Arcade Fire
Sugar Mountain by Neil Young - I'd have this at worst as my 110th favorite Neil song
The Weight by The Band
I know some of those are repeats (I keep the list, ya know), but I didn't shout them all out before. Strongest "known-to-me" round so far.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
Love you
John Maddens Lunchbox
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Here is yesterdays hopefully spoiler free rundown
1- Savage Garden were such an oddity coming out of the Australian music industry. Melodic songs, well constructed and not a hint of machismo. Brisbane is being well represented here. Interesting to note that the short shelf life the band had. Darren Hayes said they would only reunite if it cured cancer.
2- More dutch goodness/weirdness from the 70s. Pretty sure someone took this years ago in a music draft here and it totally shocked me as it goes from straight rocker into yodelling and weird noises lol. Fun track.
3- Such an inspired choice. I actually looked at Edith Piaf myself hoping she was born somewhere apart from France. Ive already thrown Daft Punk onto the Italian basket. Was hoping to do the same here. A 4 track EP of hers with this track and La Vie En Rose had just made its way through my playlist.
4- Nice to see some people dig this track. One artist loved it so much he changed his entire sound to be a direct copy of it, including two drummers. How many bands had two active drummers? That was Adam and the Ants and if you listen to his title track from Kings of the Wild Frontier there is more than a passing similarity to Burundi Black. The whole album is heavily drum focused with a tinge of Native American culture thrown in. It was his commercial breakthru in the UK as Antmusic and antmania ran wild. I can remember us playing the opening to Antmusic on our desks in high school sticking band aids across our noses lol
5- Hoodoo Gurus played the music that went down well in Australia, but there was much more to the band that Aussie pub rock. They had a style, class and uniqueness that gave them an edge. We were always told they were huge on the US college scene, but we had no idea what that meant. Their first 4 albums were #1 on the US college charts. I only saw them once live in Northern Queensland in the 90s. They didnt play my fave track, Tojo, so i was a bit pissed lol. Still Bittersweet consolidated on a great debut album and their second Mars Needs Guitars, also had Like Wow, Wipeout, Poison Pen and Death Defying. Later tracks like Whats My Scene, Miss Freelove 69, Come Anytime and the Right Time mean their greatest hits/best ofs compilations are chock full of material. Good tracks get left out.
6- Nena....nice song, but what fascinates me is that the song went to #1 as Red Balloons, the English language version in the UK, but the German version Luft Balloons went to #2 in the US. I think the Australian version had both versions to cover all bases.
7- i almost picked Da Funk for my french song by Daft Punk and had Giorgio Moroders Chase lined up for Italy, but Giorgio by Moroder opened up France while not taking much out of the song quality pool. Da Funk broke with such a captivating video, but their continuous success and incredible longevity is a testament to their talent. Derezzed also was a consideration.
8- Who says bagpipes cant play well in popular music? I know its not bagpipes, but it sounds like it. Great great song
9- I absolutely love the Bee Gee circa 60s, early 70s. Such beautiful melodies and haunting vocals. But you couldnt dance to it.
John Maddens Lunchbox
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Just went searching on youtube and there appears to be a physical 5 cd 40th anniversary with the Steven Wilson “New Stereo Mix/5.1 Surround Mix”. Bound to be a vinyl of the same thing for a small fortune
No idea about physical media but the Plank and Wilson versions are both on Spotify.
I've never had any problems with the original mix of Vienna; the original has always sounded pretty good. I did enjoy Wilson's mixes of the 70s Yes albums. Relayer in particular was like a painting stripped of old layers of varnish.
Vienna [Deluxe Edition]: 40th Anniversary - Album by Ultravox | Spotify
Ultravox · album · 2020 · 51 songsopen.spotify.com
Edit just found the whole mix on youtube Vienna
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Mister CIA
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John Maddens Lunchbox
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Hey!
scorchy
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Guilty as charged, though in this case, we were already gonna be in Chicago so lucked into the first two nights still being available. Night 3 at the Empty Bottle had long been sold out or I would have changed our flight home. Otherwise, would have enjoyed dropping OH's name and getting whatever benefits accrue.
Mister CIA
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Oh no. For the first time since 1982, the Algorithm presented me with "Tom Sawyer"
Adios
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krista4
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OH had proposed flying into Chicago for the show since he's a huge Mountain Goats fan, but it turned out to be...well, a silly and expensive idea. Would've been fun, though.
Mister CIA
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One of those "I love these guys" worthy of more love.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Same here but that song has always struck me as special. I don't have a really deep familiarity with their catalog though.
Mister CIA
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krista4
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Well, maybe the "mood" factor isn't so compelling for me after all, since I loved today's playlist. Or maybe because I had such a perfectly dreadful and long workday, the solace of new music is exactly what I needed. It's complicated.
In any case, I was a big fan of the new-to-me songs today and would even say that I liked each one enough that not a single song would cause me to "Frankie Teardrop" someone out of a bar if they played it on TouchTunes. I'm not going to touch on each one, but some highlights:
- Reminder to myself to listen to the Joni Mitchell version of "Night in the City," since I suspect the cover version selected (which I liked) bears no resemblance.
- I liked both Robbie Robertson songs but give the nod to "Sweet Fire of Love" since I like U2.
- "Hard To Explain" by the Strokes was not new to me after all but one I'd enjoyed way back when I wore that CD out.
- For reasons unclear to me I listened to all of "Sandstorm" by Darude and was happy I did. Perhaps harkened back to my club days.
- "Lay It On the Line" by Triumph wasn't new and once again took me back to childhood. I'm loving my revisit to the Triumph years.
- "Bobcaygeon" already mentioned and my new fave of the day.
- Both Sisters of Mercy songs were intriguing.
- "The Storm" by Big Country let me know that these guys weren't a one-hit wonder and had a ton of talent. Should listen more.
- "Wind of Change" by Scorpions was a surprise hit with me.
- "Question!" by System of a Down was my favorite selection from them so far. Really compelling.
- The Dead South continued their winning streak with "Broken Cowboy."
- "Man on the Silver Mountain" by Rainbow pulled me into its jam.
- "Sometimes Salvation" by The Black Crowes had the essence of "good Rod Stewart" (i.e., Faces rather than "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy"), which is totally a winner for me.
Probably tied with that other day I raved out (?) for my favorite playlist!
In any case, I was a big fan of the new-to-me songs today and would even say that I liked each one enough that not a single song would cause me to "Frankie Teardrop" someone out of a bar if they played it on TouchTunes. I'm not going to touch on each one, but some highlights:
- Reminder to myself to listen to the Joni Mitchell version of "Night in the City," since I suspect the cover version selected (which I liked) bears no resemblance.
- I liked both Robbie Robertson songs but give the nod to "Sweet Fire of Love" since I like U2.
- "Hard To Explain" by the Strokes was not new to me after all but one I'd enjoyed way back when I wore that CD out.
- For reasons unclear to me I listened to all of "Sandstorm" by Darude and was happy I did. Perhaps harkened back to my club days.
- "Lay It On the Line" by Triumph wasn't new and once again took me back to childhood. I'm loving my revisit to the Triumph years.
- "Bobcaygeon" already mentioned and my new fave of the day.
- Both Sisters of Mercy songs were intriguing.
- "The Storm" by Big Country let me know that these guys weren't a one-hit wonder and had a ton of talent. Should listen more.
- "Wind of Change" by Scorpions was a surprise hit with me.
- "Question!" by System of a Down was my favorite selection from them so far. Really compelling.
- The Dead South continued their winning streak with "Broken Cowboy."
- "Man on the Silver Mountain" by Rainbow pulled me into its jam.
- "Sometimes Salvation" by The Black Crowes had the essence of "good Rod Stewart" (i.e., Faces rather than "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy"), which is totally a winner for me.
Probably tied with that other day I raved out (?) for my favorite playlist!
Zegras11
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Zegras11
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shuke
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Newly posted known favorites:
Pip’s Invitation: Band On The Run - Wings
Ilov80s: Bobcaygeon - The Tragically Hip
simey: California Dreamin' - The Mamas & The Papas
jwb: All Along The Watchtower - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Manster: Broken Cowboy - The Dead South
westerberg: What Ever Happened - The Strokes
Zegras11: Sugar Mountain - Neil Young
AAABatteries: The Weight - The Band
Pip’s Invitation: Band On The Run - Wings
Ilov80s: Bobcaygeon - The Tragically Hip
simey: California Dreamin' - The Mamas & The Papas
jwb: All Along The Watchtower - The Jimi Hendrix Experience
Manster: Broken Cowboy - The Dead South
westerberg: What Ever Happened - The Strokes
Zegras11: Sugar Mountain - Neil Young
AAABatteries: The Weight - The Band
Pip's Invitation
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MTV played the German version first, then later the English version. But I think the German version was well on its way up the charts before the English version came out. The German version is what tends to get played on US radio now.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Faces were a huge influence on the Black Crowes, and Sometimes Salvation may be where it is the most obvious.
Zegras11
Footballguy
That was awesome. Thanks. Some of what he said in that reminds me of @Pip's Invitation . (The line about the 126th verse). HTF can he rate it so low after listening to this? He's going to have to do a new Neil countdown to regain his respectability now.
. Love all you add to these threads Pip!
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Todays hopefully spoiler free rundown
1- Amazing that the Fugees burned so bright, but success broke them. Interband jealousies, with as usual, the female in Lauryn Hill getting the blame. Nothing to do with fragile male egos that they werent getting as much attention.
2- from the 1977 thread again.Anyone want to break down songs chosen by year of release? Didnt think so. Not surprised DQ takes it here as he has been effervescent in his praise
3- Man I love Robyn, Konitchiwa Bitches is not the song I would have chosen, but her body of work is impressive and it is a great song. For the longest time I had “Dont ****ing Tell me What to do” pencilled in for Sweden, but made a change at the last moment for reasons that will be explained later.
4- The Strokes, in on the foreign drummer clause. Hard to Explain is a fantastic choice for them. The mashup with Christina Aguileras Genie in a bottle is pure genius https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ShPPbT3svAw It was so successful a Scottish band “covered” it called Speedway, but they removed the Strokes part of it with “similar” guitar work and just called it Genie in a Bottle. It made #10 in the UK.
5-Didnt know Darude was Finnish, but like all scandanavian countries, i had them well covered. Sandstorm is a total mind blast. So much great euro dance music came from this era. Seems like the UK chart was littered with this kind of stuff at the time. Litter is probably the wrong word. If you love electronic dance music its a joy.
6- i seem to have lost 6. Bugger.
7- If we get someone taking Home and This is Not a Love Song by PIL we have the best 4 taken by Johnnys next project. Rise rightfully gave him a big hit, its an extremely commercial structured song given the chaos of some of his earlier work. Love the album it comes from
8-Ofra Haza was a megastar in Israel. Revered by her fans, she was called Israels Madonna. Extremely beautiful, this song made her an international star when it broke in Europe reaching #15 in the UK and #1 in 7 European countries and the Euro top 100. She still kept her cultural norms though and it was a shock when she died at the age of 42. It was disclosed she died of AIDS, causing hysteria and chaos. Her husband had passed it to her following a blood transfusion. He committed suicide within a year following the scandal
9- I felt a bit odd picking Ultravox under the Canadian umbrella so used the Warren Cann (the canadian drummer) led “vocal” of Mr. X. Boy it was great to listen to that Vienna album again. Listened 3 times today and then listened to the remix eephus suggested. Mr X morphs beautifully into Western Promise which morphs beautifully into Vienna. The excellent production, as usual of Conny Plank, showcases all the bands skill. Midges guitar work, fresh off working with Thin Lizzy as the guitarist sounds great on so many tracks here. While this album is synth royalty, the guitar work would do any rock album proud. Warren Cann drummed from 1976 til about 1985 when he left before the U VOX album. Plenty of good choice. I would have gone crazy narrowing it down to one until I gave Mr Cann his opportunity to shine.
10- Would not have expected this track from SOAD, but boy it rocks when it wants to. When it doesnt its beautifully sung and played. Not quite sure it qualifies as a ballad, but its such an unusually structured song as well.
11- Another track I would have not expected from the band. Good choice though. I was in the UK at the time of the hype for Is This It? Biy was it justified.
I will leave a quote from wiki on the rest
rockaction
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I think it's more widely known that Wyclef and Lauryn were having some sort of relationship issue and that the blame has sort of always been blamed on that rather than "fragile male egos." The real break-up reasons behind the Fugees are complicated and not reductive to anything like that, but hey, there's a worldview-reinforcing thing going here, so I'll step out of your way and let you have it at it.
But really, even at the time -- and I followed it in real time because I was the guy that owned "Vocab" when it came out -- it seemed Wyclef took a ton of the blame and that Lauryn was catapulted to superstardom in part because of the industry and her fans feeling she'd been wronged in the inter-group dynamics somehow. It's probably a much more messy story than simply one of ego.
And it's hard not to have an ego when you cut as good an album as Wylcef's solo effort, The Carnival. The Miseducation... and The Carnival are so very different down to their very cores -- even to what their concepts were about. You knew that in Miseducation that Lauryn was hurt by Wyclef, and she used that hurt to great effect, making The Miseducation a microcosm of female relationships (especially black female relationships with black men). You also knew that Wyclef was tackling a broad, broad issue of male violence and relations in the inner city in The Carnival, an outward-looking topic that sat astride the inward-looking Miseducation.
Both were great artistic statements and both were really complex. Probably as complex as the artists' reasons for severing ties with another (though not for good, as Lauryn would guest appear on The Carnival).
eta* But I appreciate the write-up. Gives me something to read late night, and usually has thought behind it. I just think you have a sort of knee-jerk reaction to that certain issue that isn't nearly as reductive as you might make it. It goes so far as to dichotomize something that is inextricably linked and not easily pulled apart into neat pieces. It's more like taffy than legos, if you know what I'm getting at. It's messy, personal, and sticky rather than cold, exact, and fitting.
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Mrs. Rannous
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So I'm not the only one who heard "Donkey Park"? That's a relief.
otb_lifer
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the success of "The Crossing" was such an anomaly amongst most of what were being mass consumed at that time, smack dab in the heyday of the synth-pop/new wave tsunami - this were a big and brash guitar driven concept offering - and as unabashedly SCOTTISH as a tube of Haggis & kick in the nutz.
"The Storm" is easily the real gem off the platter, imo - dealing with the last stand of the Jacobites, at the Battle of Culloden in 1745 ... most notably the area of the Highland capital, Inverness.
Bonnie Prince Charles, "the Young Pretender" rallied them for their last gasp, only to go down in disgraced defeat to the English (and some of their fellow lowland Scotsmen, who took up arms with the English, lending insult to the tragic events) on the windswept moor ... this led to even more severe restrictions on the Highland clans, most stringent were outlawing weapons of any kind for that lot.
the song features the repeated cry of "ahhhh, my James, they didn't have to do this!" - James being the King who initiated the Jacobite movement years earlier, and "James" translating to "Jacobus" in Latin, ergo birthing the title of Jacobites.
i recall that album had a sleeve which featured sketches adjacent to the lyrics - and the one for "The Storm" always stuck with me, was a Highland home on the moor being set ablaze.
it's such a hauntingly gorgeous and epic tune ... album were released in 1983, but those 6+ minutes transported everyone back some 238 years.
PS - as i were typing out my hockey story yesterday, you posted the selections - so i missed the tie in there - so i'll do it now ... of course i drunkenly sourced "The Storm" in me head as i were getting rings run around me on the backline.
seemed legit at that time, not knowing the full scope of the real tale of the song.
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Mrs. Rannous
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John Maddens Lunchbox
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Thank you for the carefully considered comments. Much more depth than i was expecting. All i read was people questioning Lauryn Hills mental state “she should get help” etc.
i should be more careful when i write though. Editing and in depth research is not an easy task some times. Using my memory of events as I read them in music mags, add a grain of salt and a quick check of the situation, doesnt always get the depth.
I know there has been an awful lot of misogyny in popular music through the ages, and modern times maybe overdoes the balance. Too complicated for me to make assumptions i shouldnt
rockaction
Footballguy
The rockfather is doing well. Up and about, new heart valve and pacemaker in tow. Coming home to California the 17th. I eagerly await his arrival and hope nothing goes wrong in the interim.
Thank you so much for asking.
A very good question. Let us know, simey. It seems like such a small thing, but these things are terrifyingly large.
Today I finally sat and listened to bits and pieces of Sun Kil Moon's Benji, an album pretty much devoted to all the loss of life in his (Mark Kozalek's) first forty-five years or so of life. It's a tough listen, possibly exploitative, possibly inartful in its inventory-like way that he talks about the mounting deaths, but it is moving. What shone through to me is how these impending losses affect us daily. In his song "I Can't Live Without My Mother's Love," he almost pre-grieves her loss, saying that it's going to be awfully tough when the inevitable happens.
But rather than being maudlin or mawkish for sport or art, I'd like to assert that the only thing we have going for us in the sadness and inevitability of death and the grief therefrom is that we have the love we can give in the present to that person. So to let a moment slip or a moment go without at least a little fuss over that person is the worst we can do. To be there, not to be overbearing but just present for them when they need us, is all we can ask ourselves. We all lose the final game. Let us go forth towards it with no regrets over time spent or things not done.
That's a charge for myself, by the way. Not a lecture to you or anyone. But I know you'll take me the right way. You have a good way with that.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not being flippant when I say this, but sometimes I need to get over myself. I did carefully consider the comments but I don't want to stop you from writing by thinking you've got a pest at your side. I'm just impressed by your write-ups and knowledge for the most part. I don't want to let a good deed get punished, so you can plainly tell me to go **** myself, too. Heh. LOL.
TL;DR - No sweat. I getcha.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Fascinating read.
Outlander has its moments covering these events lol
I do remember visiting one of the battle sites in the highlands. To think the poor of the day had to suffer through that weather and fight.
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Not at all, thanks for the comments. I took them the right way. I gave Lauryn Hill the underdog title in the fight and maybe thats not fair on the other party(s). Thanks for the perspective check.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’ve seen them cover Glad & Sorry.
scorchy
Footballguy
Was the bar called Visage by any chance?
otb_lifer
Footballguy
Mt. Man
Footballguy
I have a few Foreigner albums (around 4, you might say). So I enjoy lots of their music. But there were two songs with that bit of personal touch that rose higher. This one is attached to meeting the woman who’d become my wife… at 37. There’s a CSB in there somewhere, but let’s also appreciate a smooth and almost sad ballad. Oh, and you might be surprised about the keyboardist.
#15s
Recognized by title alone: 17
Sounded familiar: 3
Knew from this countdown: 3
Didn't know: 20
Selected Favorites:
Hard To Explain (shuke)
Rise (krista4)
California Dreamin’ (simey)
Man On The Silver Mountain (Doug B) - did I mention that I whiffed on Rainbow?
Some songs I didn't know that I ended up liking:
Night In The City (timscochet)
Bobcaygeon (Ilov80s)
The Storm (otb_lifer)
Wind Him Up (zamboni)
Dig The Vibe: Paris Latino (ditkaburgers)
Or not. Next up for me is another song you’ve seen before. More Canadian ties, sandwiched around Foreigner.
#15s
Recognized by title alone: 17
Sounded familiar: 3
Knew from this countdown: 3
Didn't know: 20
Selected Favorites:
Hard To Explain (shuke)
Rise (krista4)
California Dreamin’ (simey)
Man On The Silver Mountain (Doug B) - did I mention that I whiffed on Rainbow?
Some songs I didn't know that I ended up liking:
Night In The City (timscochet)
Bobcaygeon (Ilov80s)
The Storm (otb_lifer)
Wind Him Up (zamboni)
Dig The Vibe: Paris Latino (ditkaburgers)
simey
Footballguy
She's feeling pretty good. The fall scraped her eye brow completely off, and she is worried it won't grow back. I told her to use a marker. She colored it in with a brow pencil anyway. Both her eyes are black now, and she seems to be enjoying showing family and friends her new "boxing face" appearance.
simey
Footballguy
Yes! Did you ever go there?
zamboni
Footballguy
I think On The Loose was picked earlier, but I like Wind Him Up slightly more. Saga had a quick bout of fame on MTV back in the early '80s - I tried delving a bit deeper into their catalog back in the day after hearing these songs. Nice sound and good musiciansthip, but unfortunately they are pretty meh IMO beyond these two songs.
simey
Footballguy
I saw them live when they opened for Billy Squier back in the early 80s. The lead singer was energetic, but I don't think he could have done the moves Billy did in the Rock Me Tonite video.
zamboni
Footballguy
To be fair, who could?
simey
Footballguy
Richard Simmons, but I don't think Richard could pull off that bed tumble and crawl like Billy.
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scorchy
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Yep. At least once a semester, we would get bored of the Gainesville scene and drive down to Orlando for a Saturday night at Visage. My wife is from Orlando and it was her home-base club when school was out.
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