Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
You are voting for the team Manning will sign with, NOT the team that is in your opinion the best fit. This is just where you feel Manning is likely to sign.
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Where will Peyton play in 2012-The Poll (1 Viewer)
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Houston
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I voted Miami. He wants to stay in the AFC West for sure. Cross off the NFC as the path to the SB is easier in the AFC. From there, they have the resources, tax free state, and warm weather that suits his style of play.
If I was to vote "best fit", I'd vote for the 49ers. Alex Smith is a FA anyway, and he's taken them about as far as he can. I'm really surprised that he got as far as he did. Peyton to the Niners would make them instant odds favorites for the SB with that defense.
If I was to vote "best fit", I'd vote for the 49ers. Alex Smith is a FA anyway, and he's taken them about as far as he can. I'm really surprised that he got as far as he did. Peyton to the Niners would make them instant odds favorites for the SB with that defense.
Federal
Footballguy
I think Houston makes the most sense, and may be where he should go, but Peter King seems to think it is unlikely.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
How about Tennessee?
Old college stomping grounds and gets to put it to Indy a couple of times. Also an almost guarantee playoff visit in that division.
Old college stomping grounds and gets to put it to Indy a couple of times. Also an almost guarantee playoff visit in that division.
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Seattle.
I think he's a great fit in SF - I think the concern is that Manning may come in with too much "control" - supposedly he, Saturday and Wayne are almost a package deal. I don't think Harbaugh is up for releasing that much control.
So I am looking for somehwere that could make sense - so I think AZ & MIA make sthe most sense. So I voted AZ.
So I am looking for somehwere that could make sense - so I think AZ & MIA make sthe most sense. So I voted AZ.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Read on twitter that ESPN reported the Titans were one of the teams that did make contact with him.Would be a huge splash for Bud to try making...I know they drafted Locker...but healthy Manning gives you 3 years of likely playoff chances and a possible SB. That and for TN...he sets the all time record for most jerseys sold in a day. Those things will go quick down here.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Speaking of Manning jerseys, is there any doubt that anywhere he goes, they will be the hottest selling jersey? The Manning 18 on different colors than blue/white is going to sellout everywhere. Whatever salary they give him, he will offset in consession sales, attendance, and jersey sales. He'll add to the overall cash flow many different ways.
ok, end hijack./
ok, end hijack./
KCitons
Footballguy
There needs to be another option. As the title reads now, it says "play" instead of what team does Peyton sign with. While I believe that he is going to sign with a team, I am not sold on the fact that he will play for any team. You only need to look at the agreement he made with his beloved Colts a year ago. If he can make that deal, then he can certainly sign with a team now that is willing to take a chance on him.
I still believe there is a 35% chance that Peyton never starts another regular season game.
I still believe there is a 35% chance that Peyton never starts another regular season game.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Interesting. Maybe he doesn't want to play his old team twice a year? Of course there are those who say he doesn't want the NFC either playing Eli. That leaves 3 AFC divisions.
Man In The Box
Footballguy
Sure looks like Vegas believes it's going to be Miami.
Miami Dolphins
5/4
Arizona Cardinals
7/2
Field (Any Other Team)
6/1
Kansas City Chiefs
6/1
New York Jets
7/1
Washington Redskins
8/1
Seattle Seahawks
8/1
San Francisco 49ers
10/1
Denver Broncos
10/1
No Team (Doesnt throw a pass in 2012/2013 Regular Season)
12/1
Tennessee Titans
18/1
Houston Texans
18/1
Odds to win AFC Championship:
Miami Dolphins
7/1
Odds to win SB XLVII:
Miami Dolphins
15/1
Miami Dolphins
5/4
Arizona Cardinals
7/2
Field (Any Other Team)
6/1
Kansas City Chiefs
6/1
New York Jets
7/1
Washington Redskins
8/1
Seattle Seahawks
8/1
San Francisco 49ers
10/1
Denver Broncos
10/1
No Team (Doesnt throw a pass in 2012/2013 Regular Season)
12/1
Tennessee Titans
18/1
Houston Texans
18/1
Odds to win AFC Championship:
Miami Dolphins
7/1
Odds to win SB XLVII:
Miami Dolphins
15/1
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Federal
Footballguy
My assumption was that this is coming from Houston, I think he would love to play in the AFC South. In fact, I'm bumping up the Titans a bit for that very reason.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Dang, I forgot where he played college ball.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Titans
Federal
Footballguy
Manning to Arizona in the Cards?
Adam Schein was on the Kolb story pretty early last year. I don't know if this blurb is truly sourced or mere speculation, but there are some encouraging "buying words" in there for Cardinal fans.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
100% agree FC...if he really wants to win another Super bowl he will sign in SF and probably win one in the next 2 years, retire, then Eli can have his quest for ring #3 after Peyton retires. I truly think he would be en fuego in SF if he signed there and if he can still throw the football. That said, he was in Miami before and after the press conference. He has a home down here, warm weather, he probably believes most teams where he signs will instantly be a Super Bowl contender because he covers up a lot of holes on teams. My brain says Miami...and he will push the Heat and marlins to the back page. You think Miami celebrated Lebron, just wait until Peyton signs, they might have a ticker tape parade at the contract signing. This community is so starved for quality NFL football, the season ticket holders will probably piss themselves running to grab season tickets. I'm tempted to grab some now, could always sell them off if they go a different direction. I would bet season ticket prices would be raised overnight.
I really think that Peyton will listen long to queries by the Jets. I think that having both Mannings in New York would be awesome. The Jets definitely need a revitalization. The biggest question is whether he and Coach Ryan could get along.
fightingillini
Footballguy
I would be suprised if Manning doesn't sign with either Miami or AZ. They make a lot of sense, have decent teams with warm weather. Miami will have to decide to either get Manning for 2-3 years or Flynn for potentially longer term. That's a tough call, since Manning doesn't necessarily put MIA over the top. And in AZ, what QB doesn't want to throw the ball to Larry Fitzgerald? Question there is.....if Manning wants Wayne to follow him, would Wayne accept being the clear 2nd option in AZ? Wayne likely would be a 1a/1b situation in MIA along with Marshall.
SF makes the most sense though. Mannning would clearly put SF over the top. And if the Jets are willing to part with Sanchez......the Jets would be an intriguing option. But I don't see that happening.
SF makes the most sense though. Mannning would clearly put SF over the top. And if the Jets are willing to part with Sanchez......the Jets would be an intriguing option. But I don't see that happening.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
It'd be wild if he went back to the Colts.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
2 horse race between Miami and Az.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
AZ spent $15m-$20m for Kolb? Whisenhunt put his job on the line IMO signing him...the owner there was all too happy to let just about every free agent they had after the Super bowl to walk, several of them were originally drafted by AZ which makes them look even worse IMO. It's hard for me to buy AZ as a place for Manning...if he really wants to challenge and play in another Super Bowl, I would have to put AZ down a few spots on the list...that said i am not sure Miami is really much better but the press and media seem to think Miami is an instant contender...I'm not exactly sure why. Miami has a new coach, likely was thinking Flynn, IMO Stephen Ross is pushing for Manning above and beyond the GM or coaches who probably would be more comfortable with Flynn because if they sign Manning then they have to go right into win now mode and when you do that you start grabbing guys with a 1-2 year plan...that can lead to a lot of misery in years 3, 4, and 5.
sweetness34
Footballguy
I voted Miami, but I hope, hope, hope the KC brass pull their heads out, set ego aside, and offer Peyton a truck-load of the money they've been hoarding...
JHuber77
Footballguy
This would eliminate most teams from this conversation...
Cap numbers
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-nfl-salary-cap-teams-2012,0,5969798.htmlstory
Cap numbers
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-nfl-salary-cap-teams-2012,0,5969798.htmlstory
Federal
Footballguy
The final cost on Kolb will be $12M, a 2nd rd pick, and DRC if he is released prior to March 17th. That is a lot for his minimal production. His real value is derived from the Cardinals ability to resign Larry Fitzgerald for the remainder of his career and preventing #11 from hitting the open market on Tuesday as a UFA. Cards GM Rod Graves has already intimated he's willing to restructure current contracts in order to clear even more cap space for 2012 Free Agent signings. If they have a legitimate shot at Manning, they will not hesitate to cut ties with the disappointing Kolb. The only two arguments against the Cardinals I find compelling are their Conference designation (assuming Marshall Faulk is correct) and their deficiency of quality Offensive Tackles. There are reports out today that indicate NFC teams have not been ruled out (could be used as mere leverage though). Manning's quick release, an open FA check book, and remaining draft picks go a long way towards mitigating the lack of strong protection on the edge. Beyond that, the Cardinals fit the bill for nearly every Peyton-Required check list that has been contrived. With that said, I speculate Peytons desire to stay in the AFC is strong, he would have to feel very comfortable with Whiz and his staff (the Frank Reich hire helps) if he were to make the jump over to the NFC.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
I think Miami is the frontrunner (w/ AZ close 2nd). Others are far behind (and irrelevant IMO).Kolb was signed to keep Fitz long term. Nothing more. Fitz hand picked Kolb last offseason. I think he, and everyone else, saw that Kolb isn't a franchise QB.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
I'm thinking the 9ers. I think the AZ interest is a bargaining smoke screen against SF. He DOESN'T want to face the 9er D twice a year. I think the same could be said for the Redskins/Giants (+ little Manning). Bay area is cool and damp, but not freezing like the northeast. Also not so sure he'd like to have to beat the Pats for the divison if he went to Miami. If this is about winning a ring, and making competitive money, SF looks like the best destination.
Donnybrook
Footballguy
I keep refering to these cap numbers when anybody mentions Houston as a potential Manning team but teams have always found creative ways to structure contracts to avoid cap penalities. Despite the injury, Manning is not going to sign under market value. It wouldn't surprise me to see KC more of a contender as this goes on.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I doubt Arizona's fans would give a damn what they gave up for Kolb if they land Manning.
For those saying Miami: Do any of you see the hiring of a rookie head coach as a deterrent for Manning? Will Manning want to deal with Philbin's NFL growing pains? Potentially brutal weather for divisional road games in NY, NE, and Buffalo. Much tougher road to the postseason division wise. Will Brandon Marshall be as willing as Larry Fitzgerald to put in the extra time to do what it takes to win?
Peyton is going to factor these things into his decision.
What is negative about Arizona? I'm having trouble finding much.
For those saying Miami: Do any of you see the hiring of a rookie head coach as a deterrent for Manning? Will Manning want to deal with Philbin's NFL growing pains? Potentially brutal weather for divisional road games in NY, NE, and Buffalo. Much tougher road to the postseason division wise. Will Brandon Marshall be as willing as Larry Fitzgerald to put in the extra time to do what it takes to win?
Peyton is going to factor these things into his decision.
What is negative about Arizona? I'm having trouble finding much.
higgins
Footballguy
Agreed 100%
inzanitee
Footballguy
If this is about winning a ring, he should stay in the AFC so he doesn't have to contend with GB, NO and the Giants. Even if he went to SF he's still facing elite teams in the playoffs trying to get to a SB, I don't see the AFC quite as good up top.
I voted SF just because Manning has to be eyeing his next championship and I agree with everyone else this would be his best shot. Actually I was trying to figure out if he went to any of the other teams, other than Houston, would it make them the predominate favorite to reach the superbowl. If Seattle or AZ signed him, are they better than an Alex led SF, I don't think so but the gap would certainly get closer. Would Miami be better than NE? I really see no teams that would surely put them over the top, other than SF.
ETA: I also do not see this being a money thing but I could be naive.
ETA: I also do not see this being a money thing but I could be naive.
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el centro
Footballguy
To me I don't understand the thinking of playing in the AFC East. His entire objectiv eis to win another super bowl. Wouldn't ou want the path of least resistance to get there? Why would you want to face a Brady/Belichek 2x/year and the perennial diviision favorites and/or a Rex Ryan led defense 2x/year? Whereas the NFC West has been a joke for 3-4 seasons now. Going to AZ provides the best opportunity IMO.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I think they would. Manning has a lot of respect for Ryan defenses, and Rex has always spoken in highly deferential terms about Manning.If Saturday and Wayne are a package deal, though, then the Jets are out. The Jets are pretty tight up against the cap, and obviously Saturday wouldn't come in at center. Would he be willing to play LG? Could the Jets afford Holmes and Wayne with Manning's contract? My guess is no.Miami makes sense in that they would allow the trio to come. SF makes sense in that they could use all three and are closest.
Spike
Footballguy
I voted Miami.
Simply, I think Ross is desperate for a headline grabber and, after losing out to Jeff Fisher, will overpay Manning to the extent that he will sign with the Dolphins.
And it's not like Miami doesn't have a good team.
Lastly, they could easily (I think) bring in both Wayne and Saturday. For Saturday, they could slide Pouncey to guard (where, I believe, he played in college).
Fun times!
Simply, I think Ross is desperate for a headline grabber and, after losing out to Jeff Fisher, will overpay Manning to the extent that he will sign with the Dolphins.
And it's not like Miami doesn't have a good team.
Lastly, they could easily (I think) bring in both Wayne and Saturday. For Saturday, they could slide Pouncey to guard (where, I believe, he played in college).
Fun times!
zamboni
Footballguy
Good point re: Fisher. Hadn't thought of that.I also voted Miami - it makes sense, almost too much sense that we'll be surprised when it's all said and done.
If it's really a package deal with Wayne, Peyton living there and Reggie having gone to school in Miami just gives it that much more credibility.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Rumors and Twitter are pushing AZ...just hard to read the tea leaves.
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
Arizona
Manning is reported to be on the way to talk with Elway and the Broncos - though that may simply be leverage angle on Manning's part to drive up his value to Miami...LINK
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Texasmouth
Footballguy
Why is Dallas on this list? Zero chance that would happen.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Big point that nobody has yet made...Jake Long vs whoever would be protecting Manning's blind side in Arizona. I think it was Levi Brown last year, and I believe he may not be back. Even if he is, the difference between he and Long is not small. If I was coming off a career threatening injury, I would want to ensure that one of the very best in the game was protecting my blindside.
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