CaGamblers
Footballguy
I was looking to trade for Julian Edelman because I have Welker and he was a no-show for the game - Does anyone no what the real situation is regarding his status?
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Where's Edelman? (1 Viewer)
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Footballguy
Good question. Where was Edelman last night?
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identikit
Footballguy
Not that this clears anything, but:
(RotoWire) Edelman (unspecified reason) was not present during warmups prior to Thursday's preseason game against the Rams, ESPN's Mike Reiss reports.
Analysis: Edelman missed practice all week for undisclosed reasons, and his absence will likely pave the way for the likes of Taylor Price and Brandon Tate to get a good look Thursday.
(RotoWire) Edelman (unspecified reason) was not present during warmups prior to Thursday's preseason game against the Rams, ESPN's Mike Reiss reports.
Analysis: Edelman missed practice all week for undisclosed reasons, and his absence will likely pave the way for the likes of Taylor Price and Brandon Tate to get a good look Thursday.
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CaGamblers
Footballguy
I had already read that news - I was hoping some Pat homers had additional news
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
My buddy is a friend of his and has his number. I will see if he can text him and ask whats going on.Only BB knows...
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Nice.My buddy is a friend of his and has his number. I will see if he can text him and ask whats going on.Only BB knows...
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I think what we really should be asking is, where's poochy?
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Insoxicated
Last season Edelman got 70% of his catches when Welker was hurt or in garbage time in the blowout vs the Titans (4) games. IN the other 12 games he averaged less than one catch par game. Edelman is Welker's backup. Period.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
As long as Welker is on the field, and the Pats continue to use 2- and 3-TE sets a lot as they've been in camp this year (unlike the last few years when their starting lineup has been 1 RB/3WR/1 TE); I don't think Edelman has a ton of value this year.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
He's somewhere limbering up, as he knows he'll be needed sooner rather than later.
No way in hell Welker cracks 50 receptions this year.
No way in hell Welker cracks 50 receptions this year.
34=Sweetness
Footballguy
That is some damn wishful thinking. Welker has looked AWESOME.Someone just offered me Edelman for Berrian in my dynasty, do they think I was born last week?
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
Can't imagine why I'd wish anything.I do kind of feel like I'm the only person in the world who sees that a full on recovery and subsequent 100 catch season half a year after an exploded knee would be utterly unprecedented. Is it impossible? The honest answer is I don't know, and you don't know. But all...every piece...100% of the observable data says that yeah, it probably is. Since FF forces you to wager, I prefer to wager on the side of sanity.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
I offered this to you 3 days ago. That was before Rice was out for the year, and before last nights game.
treat88
Footballguy
So is it your opinion that the time frame involved precludes a full return to previous speed and cutting ability or that he is at increased risk of reinjury? Or both maybe?As a PT with practice emphasis in sports medicine I would argue that at this point his knee is no more likely to be injured than any other player in the field. Could it happen? Sure. But not at an increased likelihood.As to the physical skills returning I tend to trust what I see. If he's showing it on the field I have no reason to doubt him.If I devalue him at all its because of the prescence of legitimate options at TE and Tate, not because of injury history given what we know.
Phlash
Footballguy
Have you even watched him play? He's making the same exact moves he did pre-injury. The doctors wouldn't have cleared him to play if they thought he would reinjure it just by being out there. Please refrain from these illogical statements.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
I'm the one paying attention to the entire body of NFL medical history, and I'm being illogical?
Welker's a fan favorite. And people are letting emotion, fandom, and respect get in the way of clear thinking on this one. I'll root for the guy. Hope he defies the odds. But I don't expect him to.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Didn't New England get into some trouble and give some guys life long injuries, a linebacker comes to mind, not Bruschi, the other guy. So it isn't exactly unprecedented that they'd push the docs to give approval. Just sayin.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
what other guy?
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Insoxicated
I'll give you 3 to 2 odds at any stakes you'd like
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
That's a little "wishful thinking" too. There's never 0 risk. Look at Demaryius Thomas. He has re-injured his foot twice this preseason just practicing. Did the Denver doctors think "he would reinjure it just being out there"? Risk is never 0 and players will want to play, especially gamers like Welker.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Ted Johnson, looking it up, I might be remembering that wrong. His issue was concussions.
Todem
Footballguy
All injuires are crap shoots...no way to predict them. Sorry you just can't do it.
He is playing, he is looks great. Thats all I need to know.
If he breaks down...so be it. There is always next year.
I play to win now. Taking Welker in the third or 4th in my eyes is $$$$ in the bank. (PPR of course)
So where is his ADP in 12 team PPR after last night?
He is playing, he is looks great. Thats all I need to know.
If he breaks down...so be it. There is always next year.
I play to win now. Taking Welker in the third or 4th in my eyes is $$$$ in the bank. (PPR of course)
So where is his ADP in 12 team PPR after last night?
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CaGamblers
Footballguy
The whole reason for starting the topic was to get an update on Edelman status so I can decide if it is worthwild trading for him since I own Welker.
identikit
Footballguy
I think Edelman is close to 'must-have' insurance for Welker owners. Unless the price is way off the charts.
Happy Ragnarok
Footballguy
There's a difference between trying to predict injuries, and understanding existing ones. Welker is injured. He's in the rest and recovery stage of his injury, and should be for the next several months. That's he's playing professional football when he ought to be resting should be a red flag. That he's playing professional football in the way HE plays professional football should be a red flag so large you could see it from the moon.I concede that there is a possibility that Welker is actually Woverine in disguise. But outside of that somewhat unlikely scenario, he's a guy who still has a specific injury -- one that keeps you from cutting, stopping, changing direction, and generally putting torque on the knee...keeps you from doing any of those things SAFELY."Predicting" that his body won't hold up to the rigors he's putting it through isn't the same as predicting an injury. It's simply acknowledging what is already well understood about the particular injury he already has.
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captain_amazing
Footballguy
Even if he did text him, do you really think BB (or did you mean Edelman) would spill the beans about any injuryMy buddy is a friend of his and has his number. I will see if he can text him and ask whats going on.Only BB knows...
.... Even if you meant Edelman, do you think he would share that info .... 
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
Any reports on Edelman's draft stock lately from those that have already drafted? He's missed about 2 weeks of practice now after looking good really early on and Welker doesn't seem to have suffered any setbacks in his comeback. Is he strictly a Welker handcuff in recent drafts or do people still seem pretty high on him come draft day? I'm a Pats follower and I honestly have NO idea what to expect from Edelman both on the field and in fantasy, but him being out for so long is starting to become a concern. Does the pool still like Edelman...or not so much?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isnt Welker most productive when exploiting the soft spot in a zone defense when the other team decides to implement it?If this is the case, I dont think an injured knee will hinder a player in that situation. Where he will be less productive is when they play man defense.I'm the one paying attention to the entire body of NFL medical history, and I'm being illogical?Welker's a fan favorite. And people are letting emotion, fandom, and respect get in the way of clear thinking on this one. I'll root for the guy. Hope he defies the odds. But I don't expect him to.
So I can see his numbers decline due to the injury, but maybe not as much as other WR's in the same position.
dont get me wrong, I dont have him high on my list, but he could be an adequate backup with some potential upside toward your fantasy football playoff.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
What should be interesting to watch is how much of Welker's game comes back immediately (or early on). He made a living at making quick cuts to get open and juking to make people miss, thus taking a 4 yard pass and stretching it to 12 yards.
But at this point he does not appear to have the same cutting ability and has not been running as fast or as sharp. I suspect he will be able to accomplish the first part (getting open for the most part), but I am not as sure about him turning nothing (or short yardage) into something. So 3 yard pop passes might turn into 4-5 yards vs. 10-12 yards.
But at this point he does not appear to have the same cutting ability and has not been running as fast or as sharp. I suspect he will be able to accomplish the first part (getting open for the most part), but I am not as sure about him turning nothing (or short yardage) into something. So 3 yard pop passes might turn into 4-5 yards vs. 10-12 yards.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I did some poking around and the ***RUMOR*** and ***SPECULATION*** on Edelman is that he ***MAY*** have an ankle injury of some sort.
The length that this has gone on (2 weeks and counting) with no one talking at all and no one seeing him around camp/practice has raised more than a few eyebrows.
Similarly, from what I was told, when the team has been asked directly about him they haven't even tried to stonewall, bluff, or give a bogus stock answer. Apparently, they just haven't made an attempt to answer the question.
If I hear anyhing else credible I will post it (I heard wild speculation on this, but I won't post stuff from left field.).
The length that this has gone on (2 weeks and counting) with no one talking at all and no one seeing him around camp/practice has raised more than a few eyebrows.
Similarly, from what I was told, when the team has been asked directly about him they haven't even tried to stonewall, bluff, or give a bogus stock answer. Apparently, they just haven't made an attempt to answer the question.
If I hear anyhing else credible I will post it (I heard wild speculation on this, but I won't post stuff from left field.).
TheBradyBunch
Footballguy
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
bump - any more updates on Edelman?
