Which 1st-round pick (ever) SHOCKED you the most... (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

Some possible choices below.

Ginn would be my vote. Jaws dropped across the world when that one was announced.

2008 - Chris Johnson goes 1.24 to Tennessee

2007 - Ted Ginn Jr. goes 1.09 to Miami

2006 - Jason Allen goes 1.16 to Miami

2005 - Mike Williams goes 1.10 to Detroit

2005 - Matt Jones goes 1.21 to Jacksonville

2002 - Bryan Thomas goes 1.22 to the Jets

1999 - Edgerrin James goes 1.04 to Indianapolis (shocking only because everyone expected Ricky to be the pick)

Others??? Obviously, I can't go back every year to the 1936 draft. I'd be here all night.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history

 

[RaiderBones]

Of the ones on that list, for me it was Ted Ginn, Jr., Just about everybody thought they were going to draft Brady Quinn. I know I was like.

 

[MAC_32]

Ginn and it's not even close.

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

 

[Raider Nation]

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

Why, sir?

 

[comfortably numb]

Ginn and it's not even close.

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

DUDE!Get real.

Jets fans???

Hello??

We have 1 of these moments every 4 years.

Its like a freaking Leap year.

Kyle Brady?!?!!??!??

 

[vandyt]

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

Why, sir?

Chris Johnson was projected as a late 1st, early 2nd. I think Atlanta not only selecting Sam Baker in the 1st, but trading 2 2nd rounders to move into the 1st, was the biggest "what?" in the 1st.

 

[massraider]

Kyle Brady?!?!!??!??

More shocking than any of the ones listed above.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This year? Joe Flacco. No question.

 

[massraider]

Falcons trading two 2nd rounders to get Sam Baker shocked me.

Nothing shocking about the Falcons moving up, but I kinda get the feeling they panicked, and felt they had to get a tackle.

 

[Raider Nation]

This year? Joe Flacco. No question.

Funny how opinions can vary on this. Johnson was shocking to me, as I saw him as a mid/late 2nd-rounder (and personally, I'm not as high on him as others are). Flacco wasn't shocking to me simply because of the position he plays. Baltimore decided he was their future. They did what they felt was necessary to ensure they got him. It happens with QBs.

 

[majstro]

The Minnesota Vikings first round pick in 2003, which was...(crickets chirping)...(more crickets chirping)...(even more crickets chirping)...Kevin Williams.

The way I see it, since Minnesota had a hard time getting their picks decided in 15 minutes, they knew that the 10-mintues per pick this year would be impossible. That is why they traded the pick to KC.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Eric Swann

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This year? Joe Flacco. No question.

Funny how opinions can vary on this. Johnson was shocking to me, as I saw him as a mid/late 2nd-rounder (and personally, I'm not as high on him as others are). Flacco wasn't shocking to me simply because of the position he plays. Baltimore decided he was their future. They did what they felt was necessary to ensure they got him. It happens with QBs.

Fair point. I guess it surprised me that the Titans took him too, but I've come to expect nonsense from them come draft time.I thought the Ravens got took, which I didn't expect to see.

 

[FUBAR]

Ginn and it's not even close.

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

DUDE!Get real.

Jets fans???

Hello??

We have 1 of these moments every 4 years.

Its like a freaking Leap year.

Kyle Brady?!?!!??!??

Jeff Lageman

Mike Nugent (2nd round, but the Jets first pick)

Anyone remember 2000?

1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee

1 13 John Abraham LB South Carolina

1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall

1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia

Tony Mandarich - only because of who else was available

 

[Raider Nation]

Tony Mandarich - only because of who else was available

I was hoping we wouldn't answer the question I posed by looking at it in hindsight.It's easy now to laugh at the Packers for passing up on Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders.

But at the time, nobody... NOBODY was "shocked" at the pick. Mandarich was billed as the best OL prospect e-v-e-r!

 

[Englishteacher]

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

Why, sir?

Chris Johnson was projected as a late 1st, early 2nd. I think Atlanta not only selecting Sam Baker in the 1st, but trading 2 2nd rounders to move into the 1st, was the biggest "what?" in the 1st.

That Baker move had me scratching my head. As a Turner dynasty owner I especially disliked the move. When they showed the clips of the guy all it looked like he was doing was grabbing and holding. He did not look impressive at all. I immediately said, "What a blown draft pick." Kiper and sevral other guys said he didn't play to a first round grade this year. Not only was the pick a total REACH to take him as high as they did but then they traded all those picks to move up and do it. :X :X

 

[massraider]

Ginn and it's not even close.

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

DUDE!Get real.

Jets fans???

Hello??

We have 1 of these moments every 4 years.

Its like a freaking Leap year.

Kyle Brady?!?!!??!??

Jeff Lageman

Mike Nugent (2nd round, but the Jets first pick)

Anyone remember 2000?

1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee

1 13 John Abraham LB South Carolina

1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall

1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia

Tony Mandarich - only because of who else was available

Those players weren't all shockers.

 

[FUBAR]

Ginn and it's not even close.

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

DUDE!Get real.

Jets fans???

Hello??

We have 1 of these moments every 4 years.

Its like a freaking Leap year.

Kyle Brady?!?!!??!??

Jeff Lageman

Mike Nugent (2nd round, but the Jets first pick)

Anyone remember 2000?

1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee

1 13 John Abraham LB South Carolina

1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall

1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia

Tony Mandarich - only because of who else was available

Those players weren't all shockers.

Not all 4 Jets, I'm just mentioning them now as I was looking through the Jets picks.Manwich was a shocker to me, but maybe not to everyone. I didn't read as much draft stuff back then, but I remember thinking "wow, I can't believe they passed on Sanders, Sanders, Thomas..."

 

[Andy Herron]

I came in here thinking this was about this year.

That being said, the Lions passing on Mendenhall and taking OT Gosder Cherilus at #17.

Whatever, you go Detroit.

 

[JPeso]

That being said, the Lions passing on Mendenhall and taking OT Gosder Cherilus at #17. Whatever, you go Detroit.

This was mine for this year.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

I came in here thinking this was about this year.That being said, the Lions passing on Mendenhall and taking OT Gosder Cherilus at #17. Whatever, you go Detroit.

I was scared that the Steelers would reach on Cherilus with their pick.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

This year - Baker - apparently they were afraid Houston was taking him.

 

[Couch Potato]

The 07 Ginn pick is a good choice since Quinn was assumed to be the pick, and Ginn was hurt and not expected to go that high.

Another shocker to me was Troy Williamson, the Vikings' 1.07 in 2005. This isn't just hindsight. Even at the time, pre-draft, he was known to be a project with very questionable hands, and was projected late 1st round at best. The 7th overall was way too high, but a direct result of the Vikes trying desperately to land their Randy Moss replacement, and fell way too in love with Williamson's speed. Oops.

 

[BassNBrew]

It's a toss up...

1> The Panthers drafting damaged goods Stewart.

2> The Panthers trading back into the first to correct the mistake above after burning a 2nd, 4th, and '09 1st.

It will be a couple of years before we know which was the biggest blunder by it's a lock that they'll be one and two on the list.

 

[Couch Potato]

It's a toss up...1> The Panthers drafting damaged goods Stewart.2> The Panthers trading back into the first to correct the mistake above after burning a 2nd, 4th, and '09 1st.It will be a couple of years before we know which was the biggest blunder by it's a lock that they'll be one and two on the list.

No Christmas card for Hurney this year huh?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Jon Harris to the Eagles - 1997 I think? Completely came out of nowhere

 

[Sweet Love]

It's a toss up...1> The Panthers drafting damaged goods Stewart.2> The Panthers trading back into the first to correct the mistake above after burning a 2nd, 4th, and '09 1st.It will be a couple of years before we know which was the biggest blunder by it's a lock that they'll be one and two on the list.

I thought they did OK. McGahee worked out fine for Buffalo and he was a lot worse off than Stewart is. The Otah move surprised me, but there were mocks of him going top 10 and truthfully, Fox/Hurney are in a desperate situation. I am a Jets fan living in NC and have adopted the Panthers as my "NFC team". Trust me, things work a lot better here in NC than they do in the Meadowlands.

 

[BassNBrew]

It's a toss up...1> The Panthers drafting damaged goods Stewart.2> The Panthers trading back into the first to correct the mistake above after burning a 2nd, 4th, and '09 1st.It will be a couple of years before we know which was the biggest blunder by it's a lock that they'll be one and two on the list.

No Christmas card for Hurney this year huh?

Well considering he doomed the franchise to cellar status for the next half decade I might leave a flaming bag of poop on his front porch. Thank goodness for Larry Brown and my $199 Bobcat season tix.

 

[Raider Nation]

I came in here thinking this was about this year.

Edited the subject to be more clear. I didn't have much space left to work with...

 

[onionsack]

In 2005, Mike Williams went where just about every mock had him going. Looks awful in hindsight, but at the time there was nothing surprising about him being a top-10 pick. For us Packer fans, Ahmad Carroll looked like a bad reach at the time (and proved to be so) and some fans weren't particularly happy with the Justin Harrell pick last year.

 

[Redmen62]

Donte Whitner.

Troy Williamson was the other name that came to mind, but Whitner gets my vote.

 

[Buckna]

The 07 Ginn pick is a good choice since Quinn was assumed to be the pick, and Ginn was hurt and not expected to go that high.Another shocker to me was Troy Williamson, the Vikings' 1.07 in 2005. This isn't just hindsight. Even at the time, pre-draft, he was known to be a project with very questionable hands, and was projected late 1st round at best. The 7th overall was way too high, but a direct result of the Vikes trying desperately to land their Randy Moss replacement, and fell way too in love with Williamson's speed. Oops.

I've had this ifight with people before but Williamson was a lock for the first round and was widely projected as the 3rd WR off the board. The big shocker was that the Vikes passed on (B)ig (M)ike (W)illiams to take Williamson instead. Everyone and their grandmother had penciled in the Vikes taking either BMW or Braylon after Moss was traded away. I will agree he was considered a project and speedster who had blown up at the combine.Then of course, Detroit taking yet another WR instead of Derrick Johnson when their defense and LB core was a mess.~~~~~~~~Off the top of my head, the Browns paying a ransom to move up one slot to take Winslow Jr sticks out. I remember my jaw dropping to the floor when that happened. Can't believe Butch Davis paid a 2nd rounder to move up 1 slot.Edit: And the Vikings MISSING their pick.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Donte Whitner. Troy Williamson was the other name that came to mind, but Whitner gets my vote.

Whitner's a very good one.Williamson, too.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Some possible choices below.

Ginn would be my vote. Jaws dropped across the world when that one was announced.

2008 - Chris Johnson goes 1.24 to Tennessee

2007 - Ted Ginn Jr. goes 1.09 to Miami

2006 - Jason Allen goes 1.16 to Miami

2005 - Mike Williams goes 1.10 to Detroit

2005 - Matt Jones goes 1.21 to Jacksonville

2002 - Bryan Thomas goes 1.22 to the Jets

1999 - Edgerrin James goes 1.04 to Indianapolis (shocking only because everyone expected Ricky to be the pick)

Others??? Obviously, I can't go back every year to the 1936 draft. I'd be here all night.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history

Everyone knew Matt Jones was going to be a first rounder.Thomas was linked to the Jets.

Mike Williams fell to 7th.

I agree with the rest.

DeMarcus Ware going so high, and before Derrick Johnson, was a bit of a surprise, too. Although Ware was a combine freak and his stock was rising right until draft day.

 

[Pipes]

Ginn and it's not even close.

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

DUDE!Get real.

Jets fans???

Hello??

We have 1 of these moments every 4 years.

Its like a freaking Leap year.

Kyle Brady?!?!!??!??

Jeff Lageman

Mike Nugent (2nd round, but the Jets first pick)

Anyone remember 2000?

1 12 Shaun Ellis DE Tennessee

1 13 John Abraham LB South Carolina

1 18 Chad Pennington QB Marshall

1 27 Anthony Becht TE West Virginia

Tony Mandarich - only because of who else was available

Those players weren't all shockers.

Not all 4 Jets, I'm just mentioning them now as I was looking through the Jets picks.Manwich was a shocker to me, but maybe not to everyone. I didn't read as much draft stuff back then, but I remember thinking "wow, I can't believe they passed on Sanders, Sanders, Thomas..."

Seriously??? Mandarich was supposed to be one of the greatest offensive lineman ever. Alot of people felt he should've been the #1 overall in that draft.I can't believe noone mentioned Sebastian Janikowski yet. A kicker drafted in the 1st round has got to be the biggest shocker ever.

 

[Couch Potato]

I can't believe noone mentioned Sebastian Janikowski yet. A kicker drafted in the 1st round has got to be the biggest shocker ever.

I've tried to forget that one. Maybe it's just that nothing Crazy Al does shocks folks any more.I used to be a Raider fan but jumped ship when Al let Gruden go and the team mutinied on the next guy the year after Gruden beat them in the Super Bowl. I'll probably go back once The Senile One dies.

 

[MAC_32]

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

Why, sir?

Just my opinion, I think he was a great pick. I'd have loved to have seen Tennessee pick before Dallas, take Johnson over Felix, and watch as the masses swarmed to the pick calling it terrible. Tennessee's pick of Johnson wasn't a bad one nor was it a shock (to me anyway). Chris Henry was an awful, awful pick and did shock me though. I consider this their do-over.

 

[BoltBacker]

Kyle Brady?!?!!??!??

That was my first thought as well.Thinking a little longer about it I think my vote changes to...

Sebastian Janikowski 1.17 2000

 

[mdog1967]

Some possible choices below.

Ginn would be my vote. Jaws dropped across the world when that one was announced.

2008 - Chris Johnson goes 1.24 to Tennessee

2007 - Ted Ginn Jr. goes 1.09 to Miami

2006 - Jason Allen goes 1.16 to Miami

2005 - Mike Williams goes 1.10 to Detroit

2005 - Matt Jones goes 1.21 to Jacksonville

2002 - Bryan Thomas goes 1.22 to the Jets

1999 - Edgerrin James goes 1.04 to Indianapolis (shocking only because everyone expected Ricky to be the pick)

Others??? Obviously, I can't go back every year to the 1936 draft. I'd be here all night.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history

2008 - Chris Johnson goes 1.24 to Tennessee and Ted Ginn Jr. both blind sided me completely. I had Johnson and Ginn as Middle third round picks at best.

 

[Obie Wan]

Tony Mandarich - only because of who else was available

I was hoping we wouldn't answer the question I posed by looking at it in hindsight.It's easy now to laugh at the Packers for passing up on Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders.

But at the time, nobody... NOBODY was "shocked" at the pick. Mandarich was billed as the best OL prospect e-v-e-r!

steroids will do that for you

 

[mdog1967]

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

Why, sir?

Just my opinion, I think he was a great pick. I'd have loved to have seen Tennessee pick before Dallas, take Johnson over Felix, and watch as the masses swarmed to the pick calling it terrible. Tennessee's pick of Johnson wasn't a bad one nor was it a shock (to me anyway). Chris Henry was an awful, awful pick and did shock me though. I consider this their do-over.

I really thought Tenn made a "Ted Ginn" here. They could have had a back of proportional skill in the third round. Bud must have made this pick, I just cant believe Fisher would pull a Detroit and select the same skill position with an early pick three years running. OF the last three years I would rate this the single worse pick Tenn has made and that includes selecting Jane Tarzan at RB last year.The most disturbing part of the Draft was watching Rice selected after Jones and Johnson, Ravens got the SOD.

 

[jasvic]

Jon Harris to the Eagles - 1997 I think? Completely came out of nowhere

This. I remember watching ESPN when the pick was made, and they had nothing to say or footage to show, they were taken so off guard with the pick. It was embarrassing as a fan.

 

[Polish Hammer]

Jon Harris to the Eagles - 1997 I think? Completely came out of nowhere

This. I remember watching ESPN when the pick was made, and they had nothing to say or footage to show, they were taken so off guard with the pick. It was embarrassing as a fan.

I came into this thread hoping to post this info. The part about the ESPN commentators is dead on. No highlights, no idea who the guy was. When they finally got info a few minutes later, they said said something along the lines of "we don't even know if he's the 2nd or 3rd best lineman on his college team." That was one of the final nails in the Ray Rhodes coffin.

 

[MAC_32]

Chris Johnson should not be on this list.

Why, sir?

Just my opinion, I think he was a great pick. I'd have loved to have seen Tennessee pick before Dallas, take Johnson over Felix, and watch as the masses swarmed to the pick calling it terrible. Tennessee's pick of Johnson wasn't a bad one nor was it a shock (to me anyway). Chris Henry was an awful, awful pick and did shock me though. I consider this their do-over.

I really thought Tenn made a "Ted Ginn" here. They could have had a back of proportional skill in the third round. Bud must have made this pick, I just cant believe Fisher would pull a Detroit and select the same skill position with an early pick three years running. OF the last three years I would rate this the single worse pick Tenn has made and that includes selecting Jane Tarzan at RB last year.The most disturbing part of the Draft was watching Rice selected after Jones and Johnson, Ravens got the SOD.

I don't think it's fair to compare Jones and Johnson to Rice, they're completely different backs. That said, the Ravens got a steal and I'm trying to figure out how to get Rice on as many of my dyno rosters as possible. With drafts consisting of picks13, 14

13, 17

9, 16

it may prove to be a tall order. He's #4 on my prelim cheat sheet.

 

[Sabertooth]

This year? Joe Flacco. No question.

I remember the look on that one guy's mug when the Jets selected John Abraham. who? Who? Guy looked like a complete tool at the draft.

 

[Sabertooth]

Tony Mandarich - only because of who else was available

I was hoping we wouldn't answer the question I posed by looking at it in hindsight.It's easy now to laugh at the Packers for passing up on Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas and Deion Sanders.

But at the time, nobody... NOBODY was "shocked" at the pick. Mandarich was billed as the best OL prospect e-v-e-r!

steroids will do that for you

Worked for Merriman.

 

[jurb26]

The 07 Ginn pick is a good choice since Quinn was assumed to be the pick, and Ginn was hurt and not expected to go that high.Another shocker to me was Troy Williamson, the Vikings' 1.07 in 2005. This isn't just hindsight. Even at the time, pre-draft, he was known to be a project with very questionable hands, and was projected late 1st round at best. The 7th overall was way too high, but a direct result of the Vikes trying desperately to land their Randy Moss replacement, and fell way too in love with Williamson's speed. Oops.

I've had this ifight with people before but Williamson was a lock for the first round and was widely projected as the 3rd WR off the board. The big shocker was that the Vikes passed on (B)ig (M)ike (W)illiams to take Williamson instead. Everyone and their grandmother had penciled in the Vikes taking either BMW or Braylon after Moss was traded away. I will agree he was considered a project and speedster who had blown up at the combine.

Agreed. Williamson was graded as a 1st round talent and it should have been no surprise what so ever that Minn reached for him a bit at 7 as they tried to fill the void left by Moss. They wanted a WR who could stretch the field.Ginn should not be on this list at all. Again, this guy had a 1st round grade. Actually a high 1st round grade. I think far too many people are getting caught up on his less than expected 40 time due to the foot injury. Plus, Ginn actually played pretty well last year.

 

[super sleeper]

Maybe I'm dating myself, but I don't think any first round pick was more shocking than Phil Simms out of Morehead St. in 1979. It was a different era, of course, but no one even heard of the guy.

His accomplishments at Morehead St.,

49% completion rate over 4 years

5545 total passing yards over 4 years

32/45 TD to INT ratio

92-173, 1229 yards, 6 TDs, 11 INTs (team record 2-6-1) senior year

The 49ers were supposedly going to draft Simms in the 3rd round, but even that would have been considered a shock at the time. They had to settle for Joe Montana instead.

 

[Andy Herron]

I came in here thinking this was about this year.

Edited the subject to be more clear. I didn't have much space left to work with...

Oh, no big deal.I didn't mean it as a rub. I was just thinking in different terms.

 

[Zoomanji]

Jon Harris to the Eagles - 1997 I think? Completely came out of nowhere

This. I remember watching ESPN when the pick was made, and they had nothing to say or footage to show, they were taken so off guard with the pick. It was embarrassing as a fan.

I came into this thread hoping to post this info. The part about the ESPN commentators is dead on. No highlights, no idea who the guy was. When they finally got info a few minutes later, they said said something along the lines of "we don't even know if he's the 2nd or 3rd best lineman on his college team." That was one of the final nails in the Ray Rhodes coffin.

he would have been a reach in the 3rd round.Pairing him with Mamula was brilliant