Which is the best platform for Fantasy Football 2025? (2 Viewers)

[JohnnyU]

MFL FABB experience is the worst user experience of any platform I have used. It was clear implemented by engineers and not UX folks.

Agreed. I hate it

The way MFL runs waivers can be confusing. I posted this in one of my DEVY leagues to explain it.

This was brought up in one of my leagues I commish where someone questioned why he didn't get a player in his round 1, but instead got a different player in round 3. It's because he had a higher bid on a player in round 3.

I see that we have "Allow conditional bidding? = yes"

"Note that in Conditional Bidding you would enter players in multiple groups in order to receive several players, but the Groups are merely placeholders for these bids and have no weighted value. So players in group 1 have no higher priority than those in group 2. It is based on higher bid amounts.".

So, if you want a player in your group / round 1 bid, he needs to have his highest bid of all your bids in in all rounds. If you have a higher bid on another player in your group / round (say round 3), then you would get that player in round 3 over who you bid on in round 1, because of the above bolded.

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Answer on "Allow Conditional bidding vs Non-Conditional biddiing":
Conditional bidding allows an owner to bid on player A and if not awarded, then bid on player B. Non-conditional ("regular") bidding just has an owner bid on player A and then bid on player B. In this latter case, the owner could get both players A and B. In the former, the owner would only get one of the two.

Note that in Conditional Bidding you would enter players in multiple groups in order to receive several players, but the Groups are merely placeholders for these bids and have no weighted value. So players in group 1 have no higher priority than those in group 2. It is based on higher bid amounts.

For the Non-Conditional Bids these are based on the highest bids winning. If all dollar values for all bid requests are the same, then the system will award the players in the order that they are entered by the owner.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

MFL FABB experience is the worst user experience of any platform I have used. It was clear implemented by engineers and not UX folks.

Agreed. I hate it

The way MFL runs waivers can be confusing. I posted this in one of my DEVY leagues to explain it.

This was brought up in one of my leagues I commish where someone questioned why he didn't get a player in his round 1, but instead got a different player in round 3. It's because he had a higher bid on a player in round 3.

I see that we have "Allow conditional bidding? = yes"

"Note that in Conditional Bidding you would enter players in multiple groups in order to receive several players, but the Groups are merely placeholders for these bids and have no weighted value. So players in group 1 have no higher priority than those in group 2. It is based on higher bid amounts.".

So, if you want a player in your group / round 1 bid, he needs to have his highest bid of all your bids in in all rounds. If you have a higher bid on another player in your group / round (say round 3), then you would get that player in round 3 over who you bid on in round 1, because of the above bolded.

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Answer on "Allow Conditional bidding vs Non-Conditional biddiing":
Conditional bidding allows an owner to bid on player A and if not awarded, then bid on player B. Non-conditional ("regular") bidding just has an owner bid on player A and then bid on player B. In this latter case, the owner could get both players A and B. In the former, the owner would only get one of the two.

Note that in Conditional Bidding you would enter players in multiple groups in order to receive several players, but the Groups are merely placeholders for these bids and have no weighted value. So players in group 1 have no higher priority than those in group 2. It is based on higher bid amounts.

For the Non-Conditional Bids these are based on the highest bids winning. If all dollar values for all bid requests are the same, then the system will award the players in the order that they are entered by the owner.

I’ve been playing mfl for maybe 20 years. I still struggle with the waivers. It’s ridiculously confusing for no reason.

 

[JohnnyU]

MFL FABB experience is the worst user experience of any platform I have used. It was clear implemented by engineers and not UX folks.

Agreed. I hate it

The way MFL runs waivers can be confusing. I posted this in one of my DEVY leagues to explain it.

This was brought up in one of my leagues I commish where someone questioned why he didn't get a player in his round 1, but instead got a different player in round 3. It's because he had a higher bid on a player in round 3.

I see that we have "Allow conditional bidding? = yes"

"Note that in Conditional Bidding you would enter players in multiple groups in order to receive several players, but the Groups are merely placeholders for these bids and have no weighted value. So players in group 1 have no higher priority than those in group 2. It is based on higher bid amounts.".

So, if you want a player in your group / round 1 bid, he needs to have his highest bid of all your bids in in all rounds. If you have a higher bid on another player in your group / round (say round 3), then you would get that player in round 3 over who you bid on in round 1, because of the above bolded.

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Answer on "Allow Conditional bidding vs Non-Conditional biddiing":
Conditional bidding allows an owner to bid on player A and if not awarded, then bid on player B. Non-conditional ("regular") bidding just has an owner bid on player A and then bid on player B. In this latter case, the owner could get both players A and B. In the former, the owner would only get one of the two.

Note that in Conditional Bidding you would enter players in multiple groups in order to receive several players, but the Groups are merely placeholders for these bids and have no weighted value. So players in group 1 have no higher priority than those in group 2. It is based on higher bid amounts.

For the Non-Conditional Bids these are based on the highest bids winning. If all dollar values for all bid requests are the same, then the system will award the players in the order that they are entered by the owner.

I’ve been playing mfl for maybe 20 years. I still struggle with the waivers. It’s ridiculously confusing for no reason.

Obviously I agree. I looked up from their help on waivers and made sure to post it so everyone can understand. Still confusing however. The jist of it for conditional waivers that can have multiple groups, is to know that your highest bid on a player takes precedence and which group they are in is irrelevant. Most think the group order matters. It doesn't. It's the highest bids.

 

[JohnnyU]

MFL FABB experience is the worst user experience of any platform I have used. It was clear implemented by engineers and not UX folks.

Agreed. I hate it

The way MFL runs waivers can be confusing. I posted this in one of my DEVY leagues to explain it.

This was brought up in one of my leagues I commish where someone questioned why he didn't get a player in his round 1, but instead got a different player in round 3. It's because he had a higher bid on a player in round 3.

I see that we have "Allow conditional bidding? = yes"

"Note that in Conditional Bidding you would enter players in multiple groups in order to receive several players, but the Groups are merely placeholders for these bids and have no weighted value. So players in group 1 have no higher priority than those in group 2. It is based on higher bid amounts.".

So, if you want a player in your group / round 1 bid, he needs to have his highest bid of all your bids in in all rounds. If you have a higher bid on another player in your group / round (say round 3), then you would get that player in round 3 over who you bid on in round 1, because of the above bolded.

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Answer on "Allow Conditional bidding vs Non-Conditional biddiing":
Conditional bidding allows an owner to bid on player A and if not awarded, then bid on player B. Non-conditional ("regular") bidding just has an owner bid on player A and then bid on player B. In this latter case, the owner could get both players A and B. In the former, the owner would only get one of the two.

Note that in Conditional Bidding you would enter players in multiple groups in order to receive several players, but the Groups are merely placeholders for these bids and have no weighted value. So players in group 1 have no higher priority than those in group 2. It is based on higher bid amounts.

For the Non-Conditional Bids these are based on the highest bids winning. If all dollar values for all bid requests are the same, then the system will award the players in the order that they are entered by the owner.

I’ve been playing mfl for maybe 20 years. I still struggle with the waivers. It’s ridiculously confusing for no reason.

Obviously I agree. I looked up from their help on waivers and made sure to post it so everyone can understand. Still confusing however. The jist of it for conditional waivers that can have multiple groups, is to know that your highest bid on a player takes precedence and which group they are in is irrelevant. Most think the group order matters. It doesn't. It's the highest bids.

The non-conditional bidding seems less confusing. You put all the players you want in one grouping and highest bids wins, but it takes the conditional aspect out of it.

 

[Mister CIA]

MFL for me. I couldn’t stand Sleeper.

What was your beef with Sleeper? I've never used it, but would like to know why some hate it.

Biggest problem for me is the landing page presented when opening the app. It's a duckbiilled platypus wearing 37 points of flair.

Also, best I can tell, there's no setting to receive trade offers via email - you have keep notifications on. No bueno for people like me who keep a tight lid on app notifications on my phone. This, plus the gambling links indicates that this app is designed first to capture user attention, not serve up a FF league.

 

[pinkstapler]

For 90%+ of leagues Sleeper. For the 10% with oddball scoring/DEVY features, MFL. Really no excuse for any host platform outside those two.

The Sleeper hate is very odd IMO though, mainly because it's also free. So if you take cost into account, I don't see how Sleeper isn't auto pick 1.01. MFL continuing to raise their cost every year despite NEVER UPDATING OR IMPROVING ANYTHING is wildly frustrating to me and last year was my breaking point where now I just refuse to use them on principle alone. When they join us in the 21st century and make a native, non-third party cellphone app I would consider going back. But if they can't even do that and still are charging $70-90 to use the tools that haven't been touched in 20+ years, hard pass. If you have an active league that communicates a lot, it's basically mandetory to also have a secondary app you use for this like slack/whatsapp/telegram. Sleeper has a fantastic P2P and group chat client built in with polling/voting features, along with a channels feature where you can create docs with all your league rules and settings easily accessed and referenced by all league memebers at any time.

I'd recommend to all new players to just avoid MFL, as part of the fun of fantasy/dynasty is having access to all your historical data and records. So once you pick a host site, you'll feel locked in for not wanting to lose that history. I'd lock in with the site that's most popular, continually being updated and adding new features, and doesn't cost a dime to use. Honestly, as much as I'm interested in DEVY, knowing that I'd have to use MFL to do it is enough to make me say it's not worth it. If it was free, or even a reasonable cost like $25, I'd be more open to it.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

In my book, it's Sleeper by a mile. Maybe 2 miles.

It's just cleaner than the others and more intuitive.

I'm biased but it also features live draft synch with our Draft Dominator tool which for me invaluable.

2nd would be MyFantasyLeague if you had wild or unusual scoring as it's the most flexible. And also Live Synchs with the Draft Dominator.

Sleeper isn't DEVY friendly. You can't add custom players and that is a must for DEVY players. Also, others have said that Sleeper isn't very good with complex rules, but I cannot attest to that.

Yes, if you have super complex rules, MFL is likely best. But the interface is light years away from Sleeper.

Fantrax is the best combo of both. Lots of flexibility for more complex leagues and while no Sleeper the interface is far better the MFL.

imo MFL would own the space if they just put a bit of effort into updating the 1995 interface.

Love Fantrax. So flexible and easy to use, it's not even close. The mobile app is every bit as good as Sleeper. The interface is comparable with Sleeper, but without all the ancillary BS Sleeper has.

Commish and team customization is every bit as good or better than MFL was back in the day.

And it's FREE

 

[Blue Wave]

Sleeper and it's not even close

Oh, it’s close alright. I’m reading their negative ink here as well, such as horrendous. To be fair I asked @Blue Wave why he thinks that, but he hasn’t responded. I wish people would say why they don’t like a hosting site. Some have. I said I use MFL, but their mobile app sucks.

Looks like a video game from the 90s. Almost no information can be found on the site, it's not customizable, the fonts are horrible, etc. etc.

No reason to ever use sleeper.

 

[JohnnyU]

Sleeper and it's not even close

Oh, it’s close alright. I’m reading their negative ink here as well, such as horrendous. To be fair I asked @Blue Wave why he thinks that, but he hasn’t responded. I wish people would say why they don’t like a hosting site. Some have. I said I use MFL, but their mobile app sucks.

Looks like a video game from the 90s. Almost no information can be found on the site, it's not customizable, the fonts are horrible, etc. etc.

No reason to ever use sleeper.

Mean18 (80s/90s) or Lesiure Suit Larry and the Land of Lounge Lizards

 

[steelerfan1]

MFL for me. I couldn’t stand Sleeper.

What was your beef with Sleeper? I've never used it, but would like to know why some hate it.

could never figure out where to find anything and thought the interface was awful. I'd see an alert someone sent me a message but could never find it or how to respond. Now i am not a cell phone person so dont know if that was my issue.

 

[Mister CIA]

Don't forget, with a paid MFL league you also get free ads. Love that!

 

[Dave Kluge]

I took a quick look at sleeper, but my league incorporates a combination of H2H and all play into the mix and it didn't seem like sleeper could handle that....so MFL it is...

Sleeper has an option for median scoring. You essentially play two matchups every week: one against your opponent and one against the rest of the league. You can go 0-2, 1-1, or 2-0 on any given week. I like it quite a bit, as you still get the fun H2H factor while removing some of the luck.

 

[darksideofoz]

Don't forget, with a paid MFL league you also get free ads. Love that!

where do you see ads?

 

[Mister CIA]

Don't forget, with a paid MFL league you also get free ads. Love that!

where do you see ads?

In Chrome on phone (Android) when loading "My Player News," which is a frequent go-to for me.

Edit: Same experience on desktop when loading My Player News.

 

[JohnnyU]

Don't forget, with a paid MFL league you also get free ads. Love that!

where do you see ads?

I don’t see ads in mfl

 

[darksideofoz]

Don't forget, with a paid MFL league you also get free ads. Love that!

where do you see ads?

I don’t see ads in mfl

I was able to find an ad at the bottom of the my player article page as he pointed out. Very small. This is chrome on my phone.

I couldn't remember seeing ads on mfl since ad blockers became a thing.

 

[streamkeeper]

I am Commish of our home league. We spent almost 15 years with MFL. They allowed us to highly tune the league to our desire. We loved them, but eventually the platform began to show its age. The culmination of which was a down scoreboard on championship weekend.
We were headed towards Sleeper because we loved the interface, but the engine was too simple to work with and could not accommodate our setup.
It turns out, we are a bunch of old guys that don't love change.

We ended up on League Tycoon. We did have to make some adjustments (Implementing contracts), but the experience on that platform has been exceptional.

I do not know if it will satisfy your coaches, but I am vouching for their product. It's very good.

 

[BroadwayG]

Too much ancillary gambling stuff on the Sleeper app for me, I just want to manage my fantasy team. Wish they'd spin off that other stuff into a separate app.

Give me MFL for complexity or ESPN for simplicity any day.

 

[habman]

Never heard of League Tycoon and just checked out their site. Really like some of their contract capabilities which very few sites support. We do it on MFL but it is a lot of custom coding to get it to work the way we like. The calculation for contract extensions is cool and something I have never seen before. We do an RFA auction for players coming off their first contracts with draft picks as compensation because we could not find a fair way to extend players. It has piqued my interest where I may set up a league there.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

MFL for me. I couldn’t stand Sleeper.

What was your beef with Sleeper? I've never used it, but would like to know why some hate it.

could never figure out where to find anything and thought the interface was awful. I'd see an alert someone sent me a message but could never find it or how to respond. Now i am not a cell phone person so dont know if that was my issue.

It's a mess