Which of these QB's? (1 Viewer)

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Which of these QB's would you pick first in a 12 team dynasty league?

Im sure most of you would prefer somone better, but if you had to choose between only these options, who would it be?

Edit, i guess which QB would you want as your starter and which you would pick first could be different. What i really want to know is which of these QB's would you consider most valuable in a dynasty league?

Along with your votes, i would love to see which order you prefer the six QB's. Maybe even throw in a tier gap for those of you who are really motivated. I want to use this info to help with my QB rankings as these QB's are the ones giving me the toughest time.

 

[eaglesfan7]

Schaub or Matt Ryan. Stafford can't be trusted since he has only played a limited amount of games and hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy at the NFL level.

 

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Schaub or Matt Ryan. Stafford can't be trusted since he has only played a limited amount of games and hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy at the NFL level.

I agree with you about Stafford, but i think he has the highest upside. He is the one most likely to put up multiple top 5 finishes. Although he is the last one i would want to count on from week to week.

 

[eaglesfan7]

Schaub or Matt Ryan. Stafford can't be trusted since he has only played a limited amount of games and hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy at the NFL level.

I agree with you about Stafford, but i think he has the highest upside. He is the one most likely to put up multiple top 5 finishes. Although he is the last one i would want to count on from week to week.

Agreed, tremendous upside.

 

[krsone21]

I voted for Matt Ryan, I think with another recieving weapon, Matt Ryan could be a stud. I would have voted for Matthew Stafford because I believe he has the most upside but his injuries scared me away from voting for him.

 

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I edited in the first post, but i would like if you guys gave me your list of how you would order the 6 QB's.

 

[eaglesfan7]

I see a couple people changed their votes. Quick change of mind I guess.

Matt Ryan

Matt Schaub

Matthew Stafford

Eli Manning

Joe Flacco

Jay Cutler

Tough choice between Ryan and Schaub and also tough between Manning and Flacco.

 

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I see a couple people changed their votes. Quick change of mind I guess. Matt RyanMatt SchaubMatthew StaffordEli ManningJoe FlaccoJay CutlerTough choice between Manning and Flacco.

I removed my vote, other than that i think the rest has stayed the same. Even though i know most people are down on Eli, i am surprised how little love he gets. He has finished between QB5-QB14 in every season since his rookie year. He is one of only 3 QB last year to throw for more than 4000 yards and 30 TD's. He has back to back top 10QB finishes and will have the best WR corps he has ever had next season.

 

[mr roboto]

Matt Schaub

Matt Ryan

Mathew Stafford

Joe Flacco

Jay Cutler

Eli Manning

 

[eaglesfan7]

I see a couple people changed their votes. Quick change of mind I guess. Matt RyanMatt SchaubMatthew StaffordEli ManningJoe FlaccoJay CutlerTough choice between Manning and Flacco.

I removed my vote, other than that i think the rest has stayed the same. Even though i know most people are down on Eli, i am surprised how little love he gets. He has finished between QB5-QB14 in every season since his rookie year. He is one of only 3 QB last year to throw for more than 4000 yards and 30 TD's. He has back to back top 10QB finishes and will have the best WR corps he has ever had next season.

I think with Eli Manning it's a matter of everyone knowing he can be up and down from game to game. When you have a quarterback that throws a high amount of interceptions it casts doubt on his ability to be consistent, even though I think he is more consistent than most quarterbacks in the NFL. I also expect the Giants defense to be improved this year so Eli should not have to throw as often.

 

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I see a couple people changed their votes. Quick change of mind I guess.

Matt Ryan

Matt Schaub

Matthew Stafford

Eli Manning

Joe Flacco

Jay Cutler

Tough choice between Manning and Flacco.

I removed my vote, other than that i think the rest has stayed the same. Even though i know most people are down on Eli, i am surprised how little love he gets. He has finished between QB5-QB14 in every season since his rookie year. He is one of only 3 QB last year to throw for more than 4000 yards and 30 TD's. He has back to back top 10QB finishes and will have the best WR corps he has ever had next season.

I think with Eli Manning it's a matter of everyone knowing he can be up and down from game to game. When you have a quarterback that throws a high amount of interceptions it casts doubt on his ability to be consistent, even though I think he is more consistent than most quarterbacks in the NFL. I also expect the Giants defense to be improved this year so Eli should not have to throw as often.

This is a bigger concern of mine with Schaub than Eli. The Texans defense couldnt have been any worse last year and Schaub pass attempts have nowhere to go but down with Wade Phillips taking over the defense and a healthy Tate along side of of Foster to give the Texans the best RB corps they have ever had. Manning and Schaub only finished 5 FF points apart last year despite Schaub throwing 35 more passes and Manning throwing 25 ints which is highly unlikely to happen again.

For those who voted for Schaub, what kind of numbers are you expecting from him next year? Do you really think they will be better than his 2010 numbers?

 

[battlestar]

Schaub

Ryan

Stafford

Eli

Cutler

Flacco

I think Schaub's numbers may decrease a little from 2010 - but not so significantly that it affects my opinion of him. All these guys scare me a bit for different reasons - but I guess that's why this is a good group to try and rank.

Schaub scares me due to the D and their running game being so improved.

Ryan scares me 'cause his weapons are limited.

Stafford scares me 'cause of his O-line and injury history, especially the shoulder.

Eli scares me 'cause that running game and the talk of his decision making is likely going to increase the runs vs pass per game. Yeah I am making that up - but still.

Cutler scares me due to poor weapons and what may be a fragile psyche - especially after the questions around his toughness - which I don't buy into btw.

And Flacco, well it just seems like he may have reached his ceiling, and I know he is still young but that is just my gut talking...and trust me, my gut is not insignificant!

 

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I'll always take the wco qb over others. Schaub should put up similar numbers.

 

[Romulan]

FRRRRRREEEEEEMAN

But chose Ryan out of that list.

 

[Cassius]

Pretty easily Schaub.

 

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FRRRRRREEEEEEMANBut chose Ryan out of that list.

I know alot if people have Freeman and Bradford in this QB range, but I have Bradford at least one tier higher and have Freeman a little lower than these 6 QB's, BradfordManningRyanFlaccoStaffordCutlerSchaubFreeman

 

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From my most recent rankings:

Schaub

Ryan

E. Manning

Cutler

Flacco

Stafford

I am really not expecting much of an improvement for Schaub over his 2010 numbers, but it would not surprise me if I were wrong - if Foster remains as strongly in the mix as last season (and why shouldn't he?) then the 2011 stats will probably only be marginally better than 2010. If I am drafting more for upside, among the lower tier players I like Stafford the best. I also have Freeman and Bradford ranked above all these players.

 

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From my most recent rankings:

Schaub

Ryan

E. Manning

Cutler

Flacco

Stafford

I am really not expecting much of an improvement for Schaub over his 2010 numbers, but it would not surprise me if I were wrong - if Foster remains as strongly in the mix as last season (and why shouldn't he?) then the 2011 stats will probably only be marginally better than 2010. If I am drafting more for upside, among the lower tier players I like Stafford the best. I also have Freeman and Bradford ranked above all these players.

I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

 

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I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

I am higher on Freeman than most, but I have seen enough to bump him into the Top 10. Now, as a disclaimer, if I were in a start-up draft and took him as my #1 QB, then I would pick my #2 QB a little earlier for insurance - so as to have an alternative or a solid RBBC if it turns out I am over-rating him.I read somewhere last season on some sports blog that the writer felt that Freeman was what we hoped Daunte Culpepper could have been and I think that is about right. He didn't have any rushing TDs last year, but he was second to Vick among QBs in rushing (with 68 yards on the ground) so I think something along the lines of 4 rushing TDs (like Rodgers is doable). And with Mike Williams in his second year and a healthy Benn we should see better passing numbers IMO.

 

[eaglesfan7]

I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

I am higher on Freeman than most, but I have seen enough to bump him into the Top 10. Now, as a disclaimer, if I were in a start-up draft and took him as my #1 QB, then I would pick my #2 QB a little earlier for insurance - so as to have an alternative or a solid RBBC if it turns out I am over-rating him.I read somewhere last season on some sports blog that the writer felt that Freeman was what we hoped Daunte Culpepper could have been and I think that is about right. He didn't have any rushing TDs last year, but he was second to Vick among QBs in rushing (with 68 yards on the ground) so I think something along the lines of 4 rushing TDs (like Rodgers is doable). And with Mike Williams in his second year and a healthy Benn we should see better passing numbers IMO.

Benn was healthy last year and won't be healthy this season. Teams will focus more on Williams and Blount since they now have tape on them and I expect Freeman's numbers to possibly come back down. I like him a ton but teams know about the Bucs offense now.

 

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I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

I am higher on Freeman than most, but I have seen enough to bump him into the Top 10. Now, as a disclaimer, if I were in a start-up draft and took him as my #1 QB, then I would pick my #2 QB a little earlier for insurance - so as to have an alternative or a solid RBBC if it turns out I am over-rating him.I read somewhere last season on some sports blog that the writer felt that Freeman was what we hoped Daunte Culpepper could have been and I think that is about right. He didn't have any rushing TDs last year, but he was second to Vick among QBs in rushing (with 68 yards on the ground) so I think something along the lines of 4 rushing TDs (like Rodgers is doable). And with Mike Williams in his second year and a healthy Benn we should see better passing numbers IMO.

Benn was healthy last year and won't be healthy this season. Teams will focus more on Williams and Blount since they now have tape on them and I expect Freeman's numbers to possibly come back down. I like him a ton but teams know about the Bucs offense now.

Yeah, you are right - I guess I was thinking of this (from Rotoworld)

Arrelious Benn is "way ahead of schedule" in his recovery from a December torn ACL. Benn fully plans to be ready by the start of training camp and possibly as early as June's mandatory minicamp. Benn suffered a clean tear, so training camp is a realistic scenario. Mar 10, 5:08 PM

Although it seems to me there was also something else going on with him last season that set back his progress (but I may be wrong on that too). Anyway, the blurb from Rotoworld suggests he could be OK for training camp. If not, then perhaps Desmond Briscoe or somebody else will pick up the slack.

 

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I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

I am higher on Freeman than most, but I have seen enough to bump him into the Top 10. Now, as a disclaimer, if I were in a start-up draft and took him as my #1 QB, then I would pick my #2 QB a little earlier for insurance - so as to have an alternative or a solid RBBC if it turns out I am over-rating him.I read somewhere last season on some sports blog that the writer felt that Freeman was what we hoped Daunte Culpepper could have been and I think that is about right. He didn't have any rushing TDs last year, but he was second to Vick among QBs in rushing (with 68 yards on the ground) so I think something along the lines of 4 rushing TDs (like Rodgers is doable). And with Mike Williams in his second year and a healthy Benn we should see better passing numbers IMO.

I agree he should add some rushing TD's. but i think his passing numbers last year were due to everyting just coming together perfectly including his schedule and i expect him to take a step backwards in 2011. Now assuming it isnt a big step back i think he still could have QB6-10 upside, but i suspect he will end up as high end QB2.

I think his 2011 numbers will look something lke this: 3500 yards, 20 TD's 14 int's, 325 yards. 2 TD's

 

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I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

I am higher on Freeman than most, but I have seen enough to bump him into the Top 10. Now, as a disclaimer, if I were in a start-up draft and took him as my #1 QB, then I would pick my #2 QB a little earlier for insurance - so as to have an alternative or a solid RBBC if it turns out I am over-rating him.I read somewhere last season on some sports blog that the writer felt that Freeman was what we hoped Daunte Culpepper could have been and I think that is about right. He didn't have any rushing TDs last year, but he was second to Vick among QBs in rushing (with 68 yards on the ground) so I think something along the lines of 4 rushing TDs (like Rodgers is doable). And with Mike Williams in his second year and a healthy Benn we should see better passing numbers IMO.

Freemans 2nd year: 291/474, 61.4%, 3451 yards, 7.3 ypa, 25 TD, 6 Int, 68 car, 364, 0 TD

Culpeppers 2nd year: 297/474, 62.7%, 3937 yards, 8.3 ypa, 33 TD, 16 Int, 90 car, 470 yards, 7 TD

Not sure what that writer was thinking, but Culpepper looked far superior to Freeman after their 2nd season. Maybe Freeman ends up being the better QB, but its way to early to say Freeman is already the QB Culpepper could have been. As a matter of fact, i think it is a prettty safe bet that Freeman will never come close to putting up some of the numbers Culpepper did.

 

[squistion]

I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

I am higher on Freeman than most, but I have seen enough to bump him into the Top 10. Now, as a disclaimer, if I were in a start-up draft and took him as my #1 QB, then I would pick my #2 QB a little earlier for insurance - so as to have an alternative or a solid RBBC if it turns out I am over-rating him.I read somewhere last season on some sports blog that the writer felt that Freeman was what we hoped Daunte Culpepper could have been and I think that is about right. He didn't have any rushing TDs last year, but he was second to Vick among QBs in rushing (with 68 yards on the ground) so I think something along the lines of 4 rushing TDs (like Rodgers is doable). And with Mike Williams in his second year and a healthy Benn we should see better passing numbers IMO.

Freemans 2nd year: 291/474, 61.4%, 3451 yards, 7.3 ypa, 25 TD, 6 Int, 68 car, 364, 0 TD

Culpeppers 2nd year: 297/474, 62.7%, 3937 yards, 8.3 ypa, 33 TD, 16 Int, 90 car, 470 yards, 7 TD

Not sure what that writer was thinking, but Culpepper looked far superior to Freeman after their 2nd season. Maybe Freeman ends up being the better QB, but its way to early to say Freeman is already the QB Culpepper could have been. As a matter of fact, i think it is a prettty safe bet that Freeman will never come close to putting up some of the numbers Culpepper did.

I was doing the quote from memory and I probably misstated the tense, the writer probably said something along the lines of "Freeman looks to be" what was the unfulfilled potential of Culpepper rather than to imply that he felt that Freeman had already arrived.Yeah, Culpepper was better at this point in time, but he also had Moss and Carter to work with (IIRC) which inflated his numbers. Also, he turned out to be a severe disappointment for those who owned him - I know from bitter personal experience. I took him as the 1.08 pick in a extremely QB friendly Dynasty start-up draft in 2003. He was great in 2004 and I was counting my money in 2005 when he tore up his knee, derailing my season. He was never was the same after that, always leaving his owners wondering what could have been...

No, I don't think Freeman will ever equal Culpepper's best numbers, as I don't think he will ever have as good of receiving weapons to work with. I do think he can be a similar passing/running threat that Culpepper was, but without as high a ceiling (although I am projecting an eventual Top 5).

 

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I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

I am higher on Freeman than most, but I have seen enough to bump him into the Top 10. Now, as a disclaimer, if I were in a start-up draft and took him as my #1 QB, then I would pick my #2 QB a little earlier for insurance - so as to have an alternative or a solid RBBC if it turns out I am over-rating him.I read somewhere last season on some sports blog that the writer felt that Freeman was what we hoped Daunte Culpepper could have been and I think that is about right. He didn't have any rushing TDs last year, but he was second to Vick among QBs in rushing (with 68 yards on the ground) so I think something along the lines of 4 rushing TDs (like Rodgers is doable). And with Mike Williams in his second year and a healthy Benn we should see better passing numbers IMO.

Freemans 2nd year: 291/474, 61.4%, 3451 yards, 7.3 ypa, 25 TD, 6 Int, 68 car, 364, 0 TD

Culpeppers 2nd year: 297/474, 62.7%, 3937 yards, 8.3 ypa, 33 TD, 16 Int, 90 car, 470 yards, 7 TD

Not sure what that writer was thinking, but Culpepper looked far superior to Freeman after their 2nd season. Maybe Freeman ends up being the better QB, but its way to early to say Freeman is already the QB Culpepper could have been. As a matter of fact, i think it is a prettty safe bet that Freeman will never come close to putting up some of the numbers Culpepper did.

I was doing the quote from memory and I probably misstated the tense, the writer probably said something along the lines of "Freeman looks to be" what was the unfulfilled potential of Culpepper rather than to imply that he felt that Freeman had already arrived.Yeah, Culpepper was better at this point in time, but he also had Moss and Carter to work with (IIRC) which inflated his numbers. Also, he turned out to be a severe disappointment for those who owned him - I know from bitter personal experience. I took him as the 1.08 pick in a extremely QB friendly Dynasty start-up draft in 2003. He was great in 2004 and I was counting my money in 2005 when he tore up his knee, derailing my season. He was never was the same after that, always leaving his owners wondering what could have been...

No, I don't think Freeman will ever equal Culpepper's best numbers, as I don't think he will ever have as good of receiving weapons to work with. I do think he can be a similar passing/running threat that Culpepper was, but without as high a ceiling (although I am projecting an eventual Top 5).

Right now Freeman reminds me more of Jason Campbell than Duante Culpepper. He is still young, and he certainly has some upside, but i havnt seen enough of him to think he can consistently put up top 10 QB numbers. I think the Bucs as a whole were more of a mirage last year. I dont think they are a 10-6 team, more like a 6-10 team. I think the whole offense will take a pretty big step backwards next year. Thats whats making it hard for me to get a good read on Freeman right now.

 

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I actually have Freeman lower than these QB's....although i could see him joining this group by next season.

I am higher on Freeman than most, but I have seen enough to bump him into the Top 10. Now, as a disclaimer, if I were in a start-up draft and took him as my #1 QB, then I would pick my #2 QB a little earlier for insurance - so as to have an alternative or a solid RBBC if it turns out I am over-rating him.I read somewhere last season on some sports blog that the writer felt that Freeman was what we hoped Daunte Culpepper could have been and I think that is about right. He didn't have any rushing TDs last year, but he was second to Vick among QBs in rushing (with 68 yards on the ground) so I think something along the lines of 4 rushing TDs (like Rodgers is doable). And with Mike Williams in his second year and a healthy Benn we should see better passing numbers IMO.

Freemans 2nd year: 291/474, 61.4%, 3451 yards, 7.3 ypa, 25 TD, 6 Int, 68 car, 364, 0 TD

Culpeppers 2nd year: 297/474, 62.7%, 3937 yards, 8.3 ypa, 33 TD, 16 Int, 90 car, 470 yards, 7 TD

Not sure what that writer was thinking, but Culpepper looked far superior to Freeman after their 2nd season. Maybe Freeman ends up being the better QB, but its way to early to say Freeman is already the QB Culpepper could have been. As a matter of fact, i think it is a prettty safe bet that Freeman will never come close to putting up some of the numbers Culpepper did.

And Culpepper put up his numbers before the rule changes in the '03 offseason after Manning and the Colts whined about how physical football was and completely altered how DBs could defend. It's a hell of a lot easier for young QBs to put up numbers than it used to be.