Which Ryan Would You Prefer To Carry The Rock ? (1 Viewer)

[RalphMouth]

Last year Grant touched the ball 307 times-

282 rushes for 1253 yds & 11 TD's - 25 catches for 197 yds

he plays for a high powered offense which will give him plenty of scoring chances

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Matthews is expected to rush 250+ times if you believe the coach-

last year LT had 223 rushes, Sproles 93, Tolbert 25, Bennett 23 & Hester 21

so 250+ looks quite do able-

even in a year when it was obvious that LT had lost a step or two, he still scored 12 TDs

just like Green Bay, San Diego is expected to have a high powered offense which will give him

plenty of scoring chances

Both players are being taken anywhere from the last pick of the first round to the first or second pick

of the third- IMHO Grant looks to be the 'safe' pick while Matthews may have more upside.

 

[DLR]

Matt.

 

[Clifford]

Grant. Proven production in one of the league's highest powered offenses.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

 

[greggorymac]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

 

[Raider Nation]

Mathews by ten miles. He'll be a top-3 pick in every fantasy draft this time next year.

Grant is just another guy.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

But we know what Grant did with Jackson last year. We don't know how Matthews will do with Sproles and in general for that matter. Grant is a virtual lock for 1000 plus yards and close to double digit TD's although I dislike Rogers being a TD vulture and the FB dive that GB likes to run at the goaline.

 

[greggorymac]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

But we know what Grant did with Jackson last year. We don't know how Matthews will do with Sproles and in general for that matter. Grant is a virtual lock for 1000 plus yards and close to double digit TD's although I dislike Rogers being a TD vulture and the FB dive that GB likes to run at the goaline.

Exactly, I think SD is more apt to run the ball at the goal line than GB. I agree the GB offense is more high powered but SD's schedule is pretty weak. If they can get McNeil signed and the line play a little better than last season, I like Matthews much better. Grant just feels like an Addai to me.... mediocre back in a great situation.

 

[Stryker]

Ryan Mathews by far.

 

[stacks]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

But we know what Grant did with Jackson last year. We don't know how Matthews will do with Sproles and in general for that matter. Grant is a virtual lock for 1000 plus yards and close to double digit TD's although I dislike Rogers being a TD vulture and the FB dive that GB likes to run at the goaline.

Exactly, I think SD is more apt to run the ball at the goal line than GB. I agree the GB offense is more high powered but SD's schedule is pretty weak. If they can get McNeil signed and the line play a little better than last season, I like Matthews much better. Grant just feels like an Addai to me.... mediocre back in a great situation.

gota be mathews Grant is exactly wat others are saying, just another back

 

[Chase Stuart]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

Sproles is a much bigger part of the SD offense than Jackson is of the GB offense. Grant's in most of the time, unless he needs a breather. Jackson had only 37 carries and 21 catches last year. Sproles had 93 and 45, and is the more explosive player, and therefore is more likely to get more touches.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

But we know what Grant did with Jackson last year. We don't know how Matthews will do with Sproles and in general for that matter. Grant is a virtual lock for 1000 plus yards and close to double digit TD's although I dislike Rogers being a TD vulture and the FB dive that GB likes to run at the goaline.

Exactly, I think SD is more apt to run the ball at the goal line than GB. I agree the GB offense is more high powered but SD's schedule is pretty weak. If they can get McNeil signed and the line play a little better than last season, I like Matthews much better. Grant just feels like an Addai to me.... mediocre back in a great situation.

Grant has a career 4.4 YPC average, and that's including the year where he played injured, received the highest number of carries for his career, and averaged 3.9 YPC. Outside of that season, he has a career average of 4.70 YPC. I certainly don't expect Mathews to exceed that level of production.

 

[Raider Nation]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

Sproles is a much bigger part of the SD offense than Jackson is of the GB offense. Grant's in most of the time, unless he needs a breather. Jackson had only 37 carries and 21 catches last year. Sproles had 93 and 45, and is the more explosive player, and therefore is more likely to get more touches.

Not sure what last year has to do with anything, GB.LT was on his last legs. Of course Sproles was gonna get work. Norv is going to run Mathews into the ground.

 

[nysportsfan]

Redraft, this year? Grant. Better offense, just as good of qb, proven and a know quantity. Mathews may be great, but I want to mitigate risk in the second or third rounds.

Dynasty, Mathews.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

Sproles is a much bigger part of the SD offense than Jackson is of the GB offense. Grant's in most of the time, unless he needs a breather. Jackson had only 37 carries and 21 catches last year. Sproles had 93 and 45, and is the more explosive player, and therefore is more likely to get more touches.

Not sure what last year has to do with anything, GB.LT was on his last legs. Of course Sproles was gonna get work. Norv is going to run Mathews into the ground.

Does anyone think that Brandon Jackson is a comparable threat to touches as Darren Sproles?Giving Mathews 280 carries isn't running him into the ground.

 

[Raider Nation]

Considering that Mathews has Sproles, I think Grant not only is safer but has more upside.

And Grant doesn't have Brandon Jackson? You make it sound like Grant is an every down back? Grant typically comes out on 3rd downs no? How is that different than Sproles role?

Sproles is a much bigger part of the SD offense than Jackson is of the GB offense. Grant's in most of the time, unless he needs a breather. Jackson had only 37 carries and 21 catches last year. Sproles had 93 and 45, and is the more explosive player, and therefore is more likely to get more touches.

Not sure what last year has to do with anything, GB.LT was on his last legs. Of course Sproles was gonna get work. Norv is going to run Mathews into the ground.

Does anyone think that Brandon Jackson is a comparable threat to touches as Darren Sproles?Giving Mathews 280 carries isn't running him into the ground.

If a sportsbook offered the prop, I would put $1,000 on Mathews outpointing Grant in standard scoring.And, as you might suspect, I hate the Chargers and everything about them. I just think this kid is special.

 

[Clifford]

Mathews by ten miles. He'll be a top-3 pick in every fantasy draft this time next year. Grant is just another guy.

Which two backs out of AP, CJ, Rice, and MJD do you think he will be drafted higher than? This just a gut feeling?

 

[Raider Nation]

Mathews by ten miles. He'll be a top-3 pick in every fantasy draft this time next year. Grant is just another guy.

Which two backs out of AP, CJ, Rice, and MJD do you think he will be drafted higher than? This just a gut feeling?

1) AP2) CJ3) Mathewsor1) CJ2) AP3) MathewsAssuming it's not one of those goon leagues where QBs go first. Of course it's a gut feeling. Everything is.

 

[mbuehner]

Lot of people gonna be staking their season on an untested rookie in a RBBC... assuming he can replicate numbers put up by one of the great backs of all time. Sure, it could be a homerun, but if its not you're pretty much screwed considering where he's being drafted. Whats the old saying, you can't win your league in the first two rounds but you can sure lose it? We're not talking about no-brainer #1 in a dynasty league here... or going RB/WR/WR/RB and hoping to grab a viable RB2 in the mid-rounds with upside potential. We're talking about staking your season on a guy that might not be able to play NFL football at all, much less excel. If you don't believe Ryan Grant has any upside, there are other choices in that tier.

 

[mbuehner]

PS: just to introduce some pointless statistics into the conversation:

Ryan Grant put up 211 FPs last season and seems like a good bet to be in that ball park again.

Since 1960, there have been 26 rookies that have done that well or better.

Long odds just to get to the baseline, much less show any upside on Grant.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I like the safe bet in Grant but I don't like him where I've seen him go in drafts. Unless a drop in each of these guys ADP I won't be drafting either.

 

[JohnnyU]

disguised ACF

 

[David Yudkin]

I pointed out in one of the other Mathews threads . . .

Counting LT's carries last year, the Chargers ranked last in the league in ypc.

NOT counting LT's carries last year, the Chargers ranked last in the league in ypc.

People LOVE to point to LT as the problem ("on his last legs") and that replacing him is the cure. Bottom line, the Chargers couldn't run the ball last year and all the backs saw decreases in thei ypc's.

So while LT could very well be a shell of his former self, the running game had other issues.

People seem to think that whatever LT did will automatically be what Mathews will do, and I'm not so sure that is the case.

Look at the Pats. Cory Dillon called it quits and Laurence Maroney was going to get both his own and Dillon's production. 1500 rushing yards and 20+ TDs. How did that work out?

 

[Clifford]

Same crazy stuff we go through every summer. And let's remember that line has not added anyone special, and are still in danger of not having their starting LT for most of the season.

So to me, it's complete insanity that this is even a question. I realize things change fast in the NFL but one area that definitely doesn't fit that is offensive line, which has to be built through getting the right set of guys all on the same page and working as a unit. So how does removing a key cog in that unit improve the line?

And as crazy as this is, the more established back who is running behind the better offensive line and on the arguably better offense is going a couple rounds behind the complete unknown running behind the worst o-line in the league.