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I think Jordan's commercials and the way he was marketed gave the impression that he was charismatic, but much of it was an illusion.
Same with Beckham. He is package and polished by his wife and a gaggle of people to present an image. But in general he appears to be an average, kind of boring guy.I think Jordan's commercials and the way he was marketed gave the impression that he was charismatic, but much of it was an illusion.
Thomas was one strange cat. My God, he was a talented player, though.
Ray Lewis came to mind right away for me too.Ray Lewis has a lot of charisma. Great leader while on the team.
I am not a big fan of the heel act by Sonnen. It seems so fake and forced even if his mike work is excellent.Al O said:Ray Lewis came to mind right away for me too.Sabertooth said:Ray Lewis has a lot of charisma. Great leader while on the team.
Two charismatic guys from the MMA world: Bas Rutten and Chael Sonnen.
Anna Kournikova, perhaps? Mia Hamm? Mary Lou Retton?So much of this, especially nowadays, comes down to packaging/marketing, but here's a list with a little bit of thought behind it (in no particular order) with the best combination of on-field/court success and off-field allure:
Clay/Ali
Babe Ruth
Pele
Magic Johnson
Jimmy Connors
Michael Johnson (track athlete)
Usain Bolt
Arnold Palmer
OJ Simpson (until of course he allegedly murdered his ex-wife, that is)
Mike Tyson (arguable because he was always a bit clownish, but his intimidation factor was undeniable & at his peak he was HUGE)
Reggie Jackson
I'm struggling to come up with women who I think really belong on this list. Chris Evert might deserve a spot.
Kournikova is a hottie who did some modeling. That's not enough. Mia Hamm has about zero personality.Anna Kournikova, perhaps? Mia Hamm? Mary Lou Retton?So much of this, especially nowadays, comes down to packaging/marketing, but here's a list with a little bit of thought behind it (in no particular order) with the best combination of on-field/court success and off-field allure:
Clay/Ali
Babe Ruth
Pele
Magic Johnson
Jimmy Connors
Michael Johnson (track athlete)
Usain Bolt
Arnold Palmer
OJ Simpson (until of course he allegedly murdered his ex-wife, that is)
Mike Tyson (arguable because he was always a bit clownish, but his intimidation factor was undeniable & at his peak he was HUGE)
Reggie Jackson
I'm struggling to come up with women who I think really belong on this list. Chris Evert might deserve a spot.
Hamm was the equivalent of a dry piece of toast.Kournikova is a hottie who did some modeling. That's not enough. Mia Hamm has about zero personality.Anna Kournikova, perhaps? Mia Hamm? Mary Lou Retton?So much of this, especially nowadays, comes down to packaging/marketing, but here's a list with a little bit of thought behind it (in no particular order) with the best combination of on-field/court success and off-field allure:
Clay/Ali
Babe Ruth
Pele
Magic Johnson
Jimmy Connors
Michael Johnson (track athlete)
Usain Bolt
Arnold Palmer
OJ Simpson (until of course he allegedly murdered his ex-wife, that is)
Mike Tyson (arguable because he was always a bit clownish, but his intimidation factor was undeniable & at his peak he was HUGE)
Reggie Jackson
I'm struggling to come up with women who I think really belong on this list. Chris Evert might deserve a spot.
Mary Lou Retton is probably the best candidate out of that trio, but so much of that was marketing off of her All-American girlish smile. Still not sure she quite matches up with the men I listed.
He was a potential for this list, but for me he wasn't successful enough on the field and didn't have a long enough career. I also think that his personality doesn't quite match those of the others I listed - it was all PR-manufactured. He was all athlete.Surprised I haven't seen Bo Jackson mentioned
Oh yeah, a dude who keels over and dies after a bit of exercise is super charismatic.Pheidippides
about 2000 years after he was on earth people are still copying his actions and talking about him.Oh yeah, a dude who keels over and dies after a bit of exercise is super charismatic.Pheidippides![]()
I agree with you on both. Sonnen is naturally charismatic, but tries too hard with the pro wrestling schtick.Bas is genuine in interviews and funny in staged segments. I love his "Bar Tips with Bas" series...I am not a big fan of the heel act by Sonnen. It seems so fake and forced even if his mike work is excellent. Bas on the other hand really comes across as genuine which makes him much more charismatic for me.Al O said:Ray Lewis came to mind right away for me too.Sabertooth said:Ray Lewis has a lot of charisma. Great leader while on the team.
Two charismatic guys from the MMA world: Bas Rutten and Chael Sonnen.
Moreso than Cutler?Annyong said:Not an all time great but Martellus Bennett is one of the best going today
Babe DidricksonT Bell said:So much of this, especially nowadays, comes down to packaging/marketing, but here's a list with a little bit of thought behind it (in no particular order) with the best combination of on-field/court success and off-field allure:
Clay/Ali
Babe Ruth
Pele
Magic Johnson
Jimmy Connors
Michael Johnson (track athlete)
Usain Bolt
Arnold Palmer
OJ Simpson (until of course he allegedly murdered his ex-wife, that is)
Mike Tyson (arguable because he was always a bit clownish, but his intimidation factor was undeniable & at his peak he was HUGE)
Reggie Jackson
I'm struggling to come up with women who I think really belong on this list. Chris Evert might deserve a spot.
Cunk said:
I was coming in to add Arnold Palmer. Great call, and i think you have the top 3. I'd put Magic Johnson 4. Agassi is up there for me, as is Barkley and Deion.Chaz McNulty said:I think that Ali is #1 and then Arnold Palmer. These two really transended their sport and became legends.
I would put Babe Ruth as #3.
I don't think Basketball, Hockey, or Football has anyone on this level.
I'm not sure about soccer. Pele may be up there, but I don't follow the sport.
Lance Armstrong would have been up there if not for the fall from grace.
Him and Jose Canseco?Del Griffith said:Did I miss it, or has there been no mention of Lawrence Taylor![]()
Him just leaving the field to chase firetrucks is so awesome. Back when Waddell pitched a lot of the players were literally off the street. Lots of train hobos and kooks, so Waddell's behavior probably was within reason. He was also a hell of a pitcher, so that helped.Cunk said:![]()
It was also during this period that supposedly, after being fined $100 by one of his many distraught managers, Waddell incredulously asked the man why. His response was for that disgraceful hotel episode in Detroit." To which Rube responded: "You're a liar! There ain't no Hotel Episode in Detroit!"
Just Googled it for my own edification, not to knock your efforts (I find I need to say that).Is Waddell who Nuke Laloosh is based on? Serious question.
Yeah, I used to read books about old-timey baseball as a kid. They always focused on the Baltimore Orioles of that era, which fits. Baltimore was such a big city at the time, a boom town.Him just leaving the field to chase firetrucks is so awesome. Back when Waddell pitched a lot of the players were literally off the street. Lots of train hobos and kooks, so Waddell's behavior probably was within reason. He was also a hell of a pitcher, so that helped.Cunk said:![]()
It was also during this period that supposedly, after being fined $100 by one of his many distraught managers, Waddell incredulously asked the man why. His response was for that disgraceful hotel episode in Detroit." To which Rube responded: "You're a liar! There ain't no Hotel Episode in Detroit!"
Peyton was mentioned.Fairly shocked no one mentioned Peyton Manning yet. The guy is a born leader and actually has a great sense of humor. The commercials alone are hilarious.
Ali wins hands down though.
Others that come to mind? Pre-murder OJ, Yogi Berra, MJ, Jim Brown, and I'll toss Richard Sherman in there as well.