Who are the most popular sleepers right now? (1 Viewer)

[MLBrandow]

Who, in your opinion, are the most popular sleepers right now? I wanted to get a quick consensus for a thread to be made later.

Don't worry about heavy analysis just yet.. just give me a short or however long list of who you consider to be sleepers.

Guys that are going either at least a couple rounds under what you believe is their projected value (which makes anyone from the third round out viable), and also guys that are way deep down in the draft list.

Let's hear 'em, and TIA.

 

[Rumblebelly]

Who, in your opinion, are the most popular sleepers right now?

If they are popular, are they sleepers? Isn't the definition of sleeper "not popular"?

 

[MLBrandow]

Who, in your opinion, are the most popular sleepers right now?

If they are popular, are they sleepers? Isn't the definition of sleeper "not popular"?

Guys who a lot of people have on their boards to beat their ADP.Chester TaylorMichael ClaytonJerricho CotcheryMike BellGuys like that. List them.

 

[einstein2u]

ben watson

 

[TheWick]

Frank Gore

 

[Kit Fisto]

Nate Burleson

 

[JayMan]

mine

 

[Interseptopus]

Who, in your opinion, are the most popular sleepers right now?

If they are popular, are they sleepers? Isn't the definition of sleeper "not popular"?

Guys who a lot of people have on their boards to beat their ADP.Chester TaylorMichael ClaytonJerricho CotcheryMike BellGuys like that. List them.

Hardly sleepers...Chester Taylor, do you not see the thread on him? That's not a sleeperClayton... He broke out his rookie year than sucked last year. He's not a sleeper only one year removed from that good season... if he is then put Andre Johnson up there... who I think will make the top 10 WRs this seasonMike Bell? Get real...Here are some good sleepers:Reggie Williams - he's below a lot of radarsZach Hilton - Brees liked Gates so muchCorey Bradford - so far he's the #2 in DET... but the word's just about out on himTravis Taylor - if Williamson can't step up, Taylor may. He stepped it up last year when given the chanceVernand Morency - could come through if DD is hurtReche Caldwell - With Branch holding out, Caldwell gets to form chemistry with Brady

 

[reg]

Hank Baskett seems pretty popular right now

 

[The Mechanic]

To outdo their ADP.

Well at each position I'd say:

QB; Kitna...offence looks primed, he's not so unproven as people think. I hope.

RB:V. Morency....injury concerns to D.D.

RB: M. Turner...... the only way he gets a chance is if their is a inj to LT2

WR. A. Toomer...gut feeling, no other reason.

WR: G. Jennings....Ferguson always dissapoints.

WR: D. Northcutt....going downtown a lot as they play from behind.

TE: B. Watson....runing game up in the air right now, quick dumpoffs probible.

K: N.E.....who knows, pick a team with a bad red zone stats and roll the dice.

But most important , it all depends in how your draft plays out.

Our league has always been RB heavy early on in the draft. I'm imagine it will prob be the same BUT I do expect more WR being choisen in the 2nd. round than the norm.

 

[msommer]

Outdo ADP:

Isaac Bruce. Don't sleep on the old man

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

Reche Caldwell is a good one.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Driver

A. Brooks

Gabriel

C.Rogers

Keyshaun

G. Jones

Muhammad

Bryant

guys who I like to outperform their ADP. Sorry so vague, work it busy today.

 

[Warpig]

Here's mine:

Tony Scheffler

Edell Sheperd

Drew Carter

Baskett (duh)

Grossman ( I think he'll stay healthy and ourperform his ADP )

Bruce Gradkowski (if Simms gets hurt this guy could be golden. He's already taking 35 - 40% of the snaps in TC and he's moved up to #2 on the depth chart...he's a "Gruden Guy")

 

[ImTheScientist]

Outdo ADP:Isaac Bruce. Don't sleep on the old man

 

[Domination]

1) Philip Rivers

2) Frank Gore

3) Ben Troupe

4) Hank Baskett

5) Chris Simms

 

[diesel7982]

Who, in your opinion, are the most popular sleepers right now?

If they are popular, are they sleepers? Isn't the definition of sleeper "not popular"?

Guys who a lot of people have on their boards to beat their ADP.Chester Taylor

Michael Clayton

Jerricho Cotchery

Mike Bell

Guys like that. List them.

Hardly sleepers...Chester Taylor, do you not see the thread on him?

Here are some good sleepers:

Zach Hilton

Way to be a jerk about Taylor and his "thread" when theres a 4 page thread about Hilton being a top 7 TE this year.

Thats "not a sleeper"

 

[Interseptopus]

Who, in your opinion, are the most popular sleepers right now?

If they are popular, are they sleepers? Isn't the definition of sleeper "not popular"?

Guys who a lot of people have on their boards to beat their ADP.Chester Taylor

Michael Clayton

Jerricho Cotchery

Mike Bell

Guys like that. List them.

Hardly sleepers...Chester Taylor, do you not see the thread on him?

Here are some good sleepers:

Zach Hilton

Way to be a jerk about Taylor and his "thread" when theres a 4 page thread about Hilton being a top 7 TE this year.

Thats "not a sleeper"

I'm aware of Hilton having an entire thread on him, I read it... but the Taylor thread is not the same as the Hilton thread. I had never even heard of Hilton or seen him on ranking sheets this offseason. I didn't tune back into these forums until after my draft. I knew about Chestor Taylor before my draft however. Taylor isn't much of a sleeper. He is about as much of a sleeper as Lamont Jordan was last year- a backup signed to be a starter. The controvery over Taylor is will he keep the starting job. Many say no, I say yes.

That's besides the point. I think Hilton is a sleeper because he's an unknown that has slipped under many radars. He's still a FA in my league. I personally don't think he'll do anything this year, I think he's an overrated sleeper, if there is such a thing. But he is a sleeper. Gates made Gates... Brees did not make Gates... just as Brees will not make Hilton. He'll have decent stats, but nothing better than a backup TE.

A sleeper is defined as someone who has potential to be good this season, but is likely to be undrafted in most leagues. It's someone you can take a fliar on in the last 3 rounds of your draft who can turn into a huge pick up. Not someone who has signed with a new team to be the #1 player at their position.

Warpig makes up a GREAT list of sleepers. Guys who no one knows about but can turn into great pick ups.

All the guys I listed... only one (reggie williams) was drafted, and reggie williams went for a buck at my auction draft and he was the last player selected...

Don't give me a list of "sleepers" who are the #1 player (or fighting for it) at their skill position (and for th record I don't include TEs as skill positions, I define those as QB, RB, WR)

However, after re-reading his thread, he was specific to say that those are a list of players who will outperform their ADP... which is true, I think that list of players will outperform their ADP... but I can list off a lot of players who will do that. That's not a sleeper in my opinion. The term sleeper has many defintions.

I had no intentions to be a "jerk" about his list of players. I was under the impression he was listing off a group of sleepers... not guys who would outperform their ADP...

 

[Beaumont]

Roddy White

Samie Parker

 

[H.K.]

Reche Caldwell is a good one.

Yep. Haven't read much about him on the boards either....No Givens, Branch holding out, Troy Brown is old....unless they run 4 TE sets (which they might), some WR has to be a target for one of the best QB's in the league.Sleepers tend to be players that nobody has heard of, but look at some of the name guys that could make a difference:McNair's ADP is 20 right now....he could easily be top 10 with Mason, Heap and Clayton, of course, he must stay healthy. Is he a "sleeper" no, but definitely a value pick.Antonio Bryant deserves a mention, he's WR1 on a team that will be playing behind a lot....If Smith can get it to him often enough, the guy has talent. ADP of 40 seems like a worthwhile investment.LJ Smith isn't getting much love, but he could emerge with the loss of Owens.Amani Toomer was WR31 in PPR leagues and his ADP is WR52, Eli Manning should only get better. Another good value play.

 

[noneother]

I am going with lelie... Value pick (see post below)

Chris Taylor, M Robinson SF sleepers...

 

[Interseptopus]

Reche Caldwell is a good one.

Yep. Haven't read much about him on the boards either....No Givens, Branch holding out, Troy Brown is old....unless they run 4 TE sets (which they might), some WR has to be a target for one of the best QB's in the league.Sleepers tend to be players that nobody has heard of, but look at some of the name guys that could make a difference:McNair's ADP is 20 right now....he could easily be top 10 with Mason, Heap and Clayton, of course, he must stay healthy. Is he a "sleeper" no, but definitely a value pick.Antonio Bryant deserves a mention, he's WR1 on a team that will be playing behind a lot....If Smith can get it to him often enough, the guy has talent. ADP of 40 seems like a worthwhile investment.LJ Smith isn't getting much love, but he could emerge with the loss of Owens.Amani Toomer was WR31 in PPR leagues and his ADP is WR52, Eli Manning should only get better. Another good value play.

There's a huge difference between sleeper and a value pick... sleepers are people no one has heard of, or people have heard of them, they've just been "sleeping" for a couple of years. Good point on McNair. He's by no means a sleeper, but he's a great value pick.

 

[H.K.]

There's a huge difference between sleeper and a value pick... sleepers are people no one has heard of, or people have heard of them, they've just been "sleeping" for a couple of years. Good point on McNair. He's by no means a sleeper, but he's a great value pick.

Thanks, MLBrandow laid it out pretty clearly:

Guys that are going either at least a couple rounds under what you believe is their projected value (which makes anyone from the third round out viable), and also guys that are way deep down in the draft list.

Nobody I listed is going before the 100th pick based on ADP. People forget about veterans when they consider upside plays (i.e.- Galloway & Brunell from last year), just because they are known, doesn't mean they can't be tremendous value.

 

[mr blond]

I hear a lot of people mention Kitna and Chester Taylor as a sleeper. Before I get the "He's a sleeper, he's a value play, that's not a sleeper" response, I'm not saying these are sleepers or not. These are guys a hear others mention as sleepers..which i think was the point of this thread to begin with.

 

[Tigerpiper]

I enjoy threads which devolve into fights about definitions of terms, e.g. "sleeper".

I think the accepted definition on this site is significantly outperform ADP, not undrafted guys with chance to shine. The latter definition is almost unusable as any draft would by definition exclude any of those characters.

In the former category,

I agree that Chester has a chance to be in the top 10 RB, with ADP at 33.

Reche Caldwell could easily be a WR20+ if he holds that no.1 spot in NE with an ADP in the 220s.

Here's one:

Verron Haynes. He was the third down guy last year, performed ok when he got the ball, and could be the short yardage guy this year. That in itself is value (see Jerome Bettis last year).

And another:

Ernest Wilford at ADP 130. Looks like he could be the number 1 in Jax. Look what Leftwhich did before he got injured last year. The number 1 WR there will be a top 20 receiver. Take Matt Jones, too, and then wait to see which is number 1- He's ADP 97.

Finally, read the report on Nate Burleson. He is in the 90s for ADP too, and may be the number one in Seattle. Even if DJax comes back, which is looking more doubtful, Burleson will be the deep threat.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Volek. He is the starting QB for a team that could/will be playing from behind quite a bit. He has a raw rookie behind him who the Titans will not want to rush into action.

Volek will finish as a top 12 QB this season.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

SF.....Antonio Bryant...WR

His is getting drafted very late, and the clear #1 on that team, and no other real receiver on the team (Davis is a year or 2 away from being an impact player), he will outperform his ADP by a mile, and is possible to be a top 10 WR this year.

He is my favorite sleeper out there, i think he will out score Clayton, Boston and some of the other names i've seen thrown around.

 

[ceo3west]

Chris Simms

JP Losman

David Boston

Rod Gardner

Cedric Houston

Eric Shelton

 

[noneother]

Eric Shelton

do you think he'll make the team? let alone see the field? i am hoping for the best, but have to read anything positive on him... maybe he goes to denver? or NYJ?

 

[Ridgelake]

Patrick Crayton.

Do you really think both TO and Glenn will make it through the season healthy?

 

[ceo3west]

Eric Shelton

do you think he'll make the team? let alone see the field? i am hoping for the best, but have to read anything positive on him... maybe he goes to denver? or NYJ?

According to Fox he has looked very good and is in a battle with Williams for the #2 spot. I think that if/when Foster goes down these guys split carries worst case, with Shelton getting goal-line duties even if Foster is healthy. This guy is in the Stephen Davis mold and Fox loves the power game - see what Davis did a couple years ago under Fox. In my deep 14-team league Shelton will be my last RB taken this year.

 

[noneother]

Eric Shelton

do you think he'll make the team? let alone see the field? i am hoping for the best, but have to read anything positive on him... maybe he goes to denver? or NYJ?

According to Fox he has looked very good and is in a battle with Williams for the #2 spot. I think that if/when Foster goes down these guys split carries worst case, with Shelton getting goal-line duties even if Foster is healthy. This guy is in the Stephen Davis mold and Fox loves the power game - see what Davis did a couple years ago under Fox. In my deep 14-team league Shelton will be my last RB taken this year.

thanks.. time to pick him back up...

 

[Colin Dowling]

David Boston

 

[ceo3west]

David Boston

Someone sees the light.. Every year at least one guy like Boston comes back from the dead. He'll be on my team for a bag of rocks on draft day.

 

[reg]

David Boston

I'll see your Boston and raise you a Ty Calico.

 

[noneother]

David Boston

I'll see your Boston and raise you a Ty Calico.

I'm thinking the Calico cat has used up all his lives.. thrice bitten, fourth time shy

 

[valhallan]

Simms and Rivers seem to be gaining a little steam among the casual fantasy players.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Simms I understand. Rivers, not so much.

 

[ffchamp1]

David Boston

I'll see your Boston and raise you a Ty Calico.

Hank Gaskett WR PHIWali Lundy RB HOUJoe Klopenstein TE STLhave to say Mike Bell RB DENCharlie Frye QB CLEJoe Jurevicsius WR CLEShuan McDonald WR STLJon Kitna QB DETTom

 

[valhallan]

Simms I understand. Rivers, not so much.

He's an unknown that's being pimped like crazy. Many casual FFers get excited about that.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Maurice Jones-Drew

Brian Calhoun

Ryan Moats

Ladell Betts

Cedric Humes

Joe Jur

Amani Toomer

Cedric Wilson

Hank Baskett

Drew Carter

V Jackson

Jabar Gaffney (PPR)

TE

Zach Hilton

J Wiggins

Deep deep sleep = Jeff King

 

[Chaka]

According to the "significantly outperform ADP" definition, I don't see so much chatter about:

RBs

Willis McGahee

Vernand Morency

Najeh Davenport

Greg Jones

WRs

Joe Horn

Laveranues Coles

Muhsin Muhammad

Vincent Jackson

QBs

Jake Plummer

Byron Leftwich

Rex Grossman

 

[Chaka]

Of course the ultimate sleeper is Woody Allen.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Maybe we need a new thread: "Who are the most unpopular players people are selecting early?"

 

[texasheat]

SF.....Antonio Bryant...WR

His is getting drafted very late, and the clear #1 on that team, and no other real receiver on the team (Davis is a year or 2 away from being an impact player), he will outperform his ADP by a mile, and is possible to be a top 10 WR this year.

He is my favorite sleeper out there, i think he will out score Clayton, Boston and some of the other names i've seen thrown around.

Whoa.... top 10 WR on that team, with a 2nd year QB?... tap the break buddy. Although, I do think he will outperform his ADP.

 

[Slinger]

David Givens. I would say Zach Hilton, but we all know about him.

 

[Marc Levin]

Outdo ADP:Isaac Bruce. Don't sleep on the old man

he's a WR3/4 target in EVERY draft for me.IMO, Bruce is bound for a 75+ 1g+ 6TD season. And production every game.People are overpaying for Curtis based on Martz' love for the passing game - ths year, the Rams will have a more traditional offense, and Curtis will fall back to a traditional third receiver role.A 16 game seaosn from the Rams WRs, IMO plays out like this in targets:Holt, around 140Bruce, around 125Curtis around 80I'll take Bruce.

 

[Marc Levin]

David Boston

Shocker that Colin suggests Boston. Shocker.Hey Colin - Robert Ferguson or Greg Jennings?Just giving you shyte, my man.

 

[Marc Levin]

If he hasn;t been mentioned, I like both Burleson and Engram to significantly outproduce their ADPs - at least b/c I am firmly convinced that DJax has something seriously wrong with himself that he can't stay healthy and his recovery this year seems to be kinda slow. I'm scared as heck off of Djax.

 

[Colin Dowling]

David Boston

Shocker that Colin suggests Boston. Shocker.Hey Colin - Robert Ferguson or Greg Jennings?Just giving you shyte, my man.

The best Packer receiver is likely going to be the other team's starting safety. :rimshot:Boston may never do anything of note ever again in the NFL, but I do not think it wise to avoid/ignore the fact that a person who is entering his prime by age and has demonstrated he can play at a high level in the NFL and will likely be available in the last 1/4 of most drafts while 2nd defenses and 2nd kickers are being selected.Put another way - David Boston in the 13th round going for 50/600/6 (which i think is conservative) is going to be looked back on as a very nice value selection.