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Who are you benching for Grossman? (1 Viewer)

eh I guess against SF I'll stick with Romo. So basically starting Rex over every non-stud QB I have (Brady, Romo, Vick). Starting him over Schaub in 2 leagues, Ryan in another.

 
Have Grossman, Fitzpatrick and Flacco. Thinking of starting Grossman over Fitzpatrick aginst OAK.

 
Have Grossman, Fitzpatrick and Flacco. Thinking of starting Grossman over Fitzpatrick aginst OAK.
I'm also having trouble deciding between Grossman and Fitzpatrick. Ultimately, I think it comes down to which offensive line will do better at pass protection and whether Oakland or Arizona has a better pass rush (leaning towards Oakland here). I can see Washington running the ball more often than Buffalo, however. Buffalo might have to throw more to play catch-up because I think they will have trouble against Darren McFadden.
 
Grossman has a great matchup this week and should be the starter over a lot of the names listed here. However, I am more interested in his long term outlook. Anyone bullish long term? I love his upside and he'd be great week 8 bye week filler at Buffalo (during Aaron Rodgers bye week). He was available in my league almost for free.

 
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Grossman has a great matchup this week and should be the starter over a lot of the names listed here. However, I am more interested in his long term outlook. Anyone bullish long term? I love his upside and he'd be great week 8 bye week filler at Buffalo (during Aaron Rodgers bye week). He was available in my league almost for free.
I like him longterm, since he has a nice mix of WR's, TE's, and a RB that is good catching passes out of the backfield, he looked decent at the end of last year and again last week, so I think his production could continue. If not I will just drop him since I got him off the WW. I think he's worth a shot since he does have more options in that offense now...
 
The problem is that every season he has streches like the end of last year, and he always had games like he had last week. There's no clear evidence that anything has changed. There's hope...

 
I'm considering starting him over Big Ben. Seems pretty much like a coin flip between the two.

 
In addition to playing him over Eli in one league, I am also playing him over Ryan and Bradford in another league. Ryan has a bad matchup and Bradford has the injured finger and is missing his #1 slot WR. I'm going all in on Grossman this weekend and like several of your, did not expect this turn of events so early in the season. If it pays off, we'll be glad he was on many of our WWs to plug and play this week and perhaps beyond for those of us who don't have stud QBs.

 
Benching Sanchez. And Kerry Collins and obviously Peyton Manning. I just wanted to write that down for once: "Playing Rex Grossman over Peyton Manning"

If everyone is high on Grossman, who gets the targets at WR2? Is there a WW play there?
With Lloyd (most likely) out, Gaffney happened to be the best available WR on my wire this week, so I'm plugging him in, too (over an injured Jacoby Ford and with Mike Thomas on Revis island).
 
'mr roboto said:
If everyone is high on Grossman, who gets the targets at WR2? Is there a WW play there?
Gaffney technically, but nabbing Fred Davis if he is by some miracle still available is a really smart move.Like someone said earlier, Grossman as a starter has a tendency to look very good one week and lost the next. The good news is that his schedule is borderline ridiculous. PHI in week 6 and NYJ in week 13 look like the only difficult matchups (PHI in week 17 as well, but most leagues don't bother). Other than that, DAL and NYG in the division have suspect pass Ds, the entire NFC West (and they get all four) are very beatable through the air, and the remaining AFC East (BUF, MIA, NE) are all beatable through the air. CAR, which will struggle against the pass, and MIN, which is closer to neutral round out their schedule. Normally, I'd look to trade him after his bye, but maybe he's pretty effective most of the year?
 
Picked up Grossman to start him this week only. Ryan will be back in my starting line-up from week 3 and onwards.

The Cards' secondary looked pathetic and Grossman actually looked pretty good week 1 so I have a good feeling about this

 
Got Romo and Freeman in a 2 QB league. Benching Freeman for Grossman. I might ride the NFC East QBs all year with their ridicilously friendly schedules.

 
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'Banemorth said:
Matt Ryan sits. Rex starts. Dropped Kolb to get him (only 4 bench spots!)
Wow. This seems risky. How much of a chance is there that Washington gets up early and then just grinds the ball? I am thinking Kolb might be the better play because Arizona is likely to be the team needing to throw.

 
'Banemorth said:
Matt Ryan sits. Rex starts. Dropped Kolb to get him (only 4 bench spots!)
Wow. This seems risky. How much of a chance is there that Washington gets up early and then just grinds the ball? I am thinking Kolb might be the better play because Arizona is likely to be the team needing to throw.
They kept Eli Manning to just 268 yards, 1 int, 1 fumble NO TD passes. Granted the Giants are pretty beat up but I still think they're a better team than Arizona. My money is on Rex.
 
'Banemorth said:
Matt Ryan sits. Rex starts. Dropped Kolb to get him (only 4 bench spots!)
Wow. This seems risky. How much of a chance is there that Washington gets up early and then just grinds the ball? I am thinking Kolb might be the better play because Arizona is likely to be the team needing to throw.
They kept Eli Manning to just 268 yards, 1 int, 1 fumble NO TD passes. Granted the Giants are pretty beat up but I still think they're a better team than Arizona. My money is on Rex.
I am not necessarily disagreeing with you but you have to admit Arizona's receivers are worlds better than the Giants.
 
Can't believe this is happening.
Why not? A rookie QB shredded the Cards Pass D, it's worth a flier. Unless you're talking about the owners willing to bench one of the top 7 QBs for Grossman, then I agree with you 100%.
Because the Arizona D blitzed a crazy amount of time trying to rattle the rookie and he had enough protection and moxie to get the ball out fast enough. I don't see them trying that again for the fact of non-rook qb plus the live and learn rule from week 1. I can still see a shoot-out of sorts occurring but I don't see SexyRexy laying close to the yardage that Newton did against the Cards.
 
'Banemorth said:
Matt Ryan sits. Rex starts. Dropped Kolb to get him (only 4 bench spots!)
Wow. This seems risky. How much of a chance is there that Washington gets up early and then just grinds the ball? I am thinking Kolb might be the better play because Arizona is likely to be the team needing to throw.
They kept Eli Manning to just 268 yards, 1 int, 1 fumble NO TD passes. Granted the Giants are pretty beat up but I still think they're a better team than Arizona. My money is on Rex.
I am not necessarily disagreeing with you but you have to admit Arizona's receivers are worlds better than the Giants.
With the exception of Nicks I do agree.
 
Can't believe this is happening.
Why not? A rookie QB shredded the Cards Pass D, it's worth a flier. Unless you're talking about the owners willing to bench one of the top 7 QBs for Grossman, then I agree with you 100%.
Because the Arizona D blitzed a crazy amount of time trying to rattle the rookie and he had enough protection and moxie to get the ball out fast enough. I don't see them trying that again for the fact of non-rook qb plus the live and learn rule from week 1. I can still see a shoot-out of sorts occurring but I don't see SexyRexy laying close to the yardage that Newton did against the Cards.
Well yea no one should be expecting 400 from Grossman. Every Grossman owner's situation is different, based on who they're benching to start him. I have to choose between Freeman @ MIN or Grossman vs ARI. I'm more willing to make a snap judgment on Arizona and call them a bad defense b/c of a rookie than I am willing to call Minnesota a bad D b/c of a top 5 QB.I'll probably do some stat digging the next couple days to see if I can convince myself to start Freeman. If not, Grossman will stay in.
 
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It's not wise to compare Grossman running a Ron Turner offense with Grossman running a Shanny offense. This is an offensive scheme that made Jake Plummer a 4000 yard/27 TD season QB, and Jay Cutler a 4500 yard/25 TD system. You don't have to be a great QB to put up numbers in this system, the offense does the heavy lifting for you.

 
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It's not wise to compare Grossman running a Ron Turner offense with Grossman running a Shanny offense. This is an offensive scheme that made Jake Plummer a 4000 yard/27 TD season QB, and Jay Cutler a 4500 yard/25 TD system. You don't have to be a great QB to put up numbers in this system, the offense does the heavy lifting for you.
I don't think anyone is worried about his ability to produce. No system can prevent Rexy from running backwards in terror and launching dragons off his back foot, or fumbling snaps, or any of his other problems.
 
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'mr roboto said:
If everyone is high on Grossman, who gets the targets at WR2? Is there a WW play there?
Gaffney technically, but nabbing Fred Davis if he is by some miracle still available is a really smart move.Like someone said earlier, Grossman as a starter has a tendency to look very good one week and lost the next. The good news is that his schedule is borderline ridiculous. PHI in week 6 and NYJ in week 13 look like the only difficult matchups (PHI in week 17 as well, but most leagues don't bother). Other than that, DAL and NYG in the division have suspect pass Ds, the entire NFC West (and they get all four) are very beatable through the air, and the remaining AFC East (BUF, MIA, NE) are all beatable through the air. CAR, which will struggle against the pass, and MIN, which is closer to neutral round out their schedule. Normally, I'd look to trade him after his bye, but maybe he's pretty effective most of the year?
In 3 of his last 4 games, Grossman has thrown for 300+ yards, with a 59.1 comp %, 8:3 TD/Int ratio, and a 97.5 QB rating...and he plays Az this weekend.looks like a great start, and so does Santana Moss..

 
It's not wise to compare Grossman running a Ron Turner offense with Grossman running a Shanny offense. This is an offensive scheme that made Jake Plummer a 4000 yard/27 TD season QB, and Jay Cutler a 4500 yard/25 TD system. You don't have to be a great QB to put up numbers in this system, the offense does the heavy lifting for you.
I don't think anyone is worried about his ability to produce. No system can prevent Rexy from running backwards in terror and launching dragons off his back foot, or fumbling snaps, or any of his other problems.
And Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler never did any of those things. Never. Not in a million years.
 
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It's not wise to compare Grossman running a Ron Turner offense with Grossman running a Shanny offense. This is an offensive scheme that made Jake Plummer a 4000 yard/27 TD season QB, and Jay Cutler a 4500 yard/25 TD system. You don't have to be a great QB to put up numbers in this system, the offense does the heavy lifting for you.
I don't think anyone is worried about his ability to produce. No system can prevent Rexy from running backwards in terror and launching dragons off his back foot, or fumbling snaps, or any of his other problems.
And Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler never did any of those things. Never. Not in a million years.
Obviously they did. Did you watch Grossman's whole career in Chicago, or just catch a few nationally televised games? You seem to be arguing against a position nobody holds. If Grossman does something habitually, who cares if Cutler does it occasionally? You'd have to be nuts to say that running backwards is as characteristic of Cutler's game as Grossman's.If you don't think Grossman has a history of chronically running backwards instead of stepping into the pocket then you didn't really watch his Bears career. Of course nobody thinks Plummer or Cutler never make the same mistake. That's ridiculous.
 
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