Who can beat the Chargers in the SB? (1 Viewer)

[H.K.]

OK, now that the AFC has crumbled before us, is there any team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers?

Bears? never.

Seahawks? please.

Cowboys? stop it.

So, basically, it looks like San Diego has the Lombardi trophy in the bag. Is there any reason to play out the string at this point?

My suggestion: Have the NFL just give them their rings and we can all get focused on the upcoming Arena season.

 

[Wreckincrew]

OK, now that the AFC has crumbled before us, is there any team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers? Bears? never.Seahawks? please.Cowboys? stop it.So, basically, it looks like San Diego has the Lombardi trophy in the bag. Is there any reason to play out the string at this point? My suggestion: Have the NFL just give them their rings and we can all get focused on the upcoming Arena season.

 

[North]

OK, now that the AFC has crumbled before us, is there any team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers? Bears? never.Seahawks? please.Cowboys? stop it.So, basically, it looks like San Diego has the Lombardi trophy in the bag. Is there any reason to play out the string at this point? My suggestion: Have the NFL just give them their rings and we can all get focused on the upcoming Arena season.

Let me guess, you're from Southern California?The AFC is crumbling before us?? When the Ravens dominated KC in Arrowhead this past week it certainly didn't look like they were crumbling.Oh wait, maybe they were crumbling when they BEAT the Chargers.Defense wins championships and the Chargers are right there, behind Baltimore.And no, i'm not from Baltimore. Just an unbiased opinion from someone who can see and state the obvious.

 

[BusMan]

I think I might start a personal crusade to throw flags in all of H.K.'s threads. Here we go...

 

[H.K.]

Defense wins championships and the Chargers are right there, behind Baltimore.

This has kind of a "pitcher/catcher" inference to it, and it doesn't exactly paint a pretty picture....

 

[North]

Defense wins championships and the Chargers are right there, behind Baltimore.

This has kind of a "pitcher/catcher" inference to it, and it doesn't exactly paint a pretty picture....

Statistically

 

[Archie Bunker]

The most likely candidate is Marty Schottenheimer. So far this year, he has been smart enough to ride the LT express. A nice, steady diet of 20-25 carries a game and feeding lT the ball inside the 5 will lead them to the promised land. So far, I think LT has only had 2 games with less than 17 or 18 carries. In previous years, that probably happened as many as 7 or 8 times.

 

[BoltBacker]

I think Gates is all that stands in their way. His poor play alone may push them back, back into the ocean and off the field of play. The Kraken, the krakennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn........

Honestly HK, did you play Ahab in a school play and just never got over the role?

 

[PsychoMan]

I agree that Baltimore has a good shot at beating them.

People love this argument so I'll throw it out there. How many teams with winning records has San Diego even beaten?

Cinci (8-5) by 8 points after a big comeback.

Denver (7-6) by 8 points after a big comeback.

Denver again.

 

[Stingdiddy]

OK, now that the AFC has crumbled before us, is there any team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers? Bears? never.Seahawks? please.Cowboys? stop it.So, basically, it looks like San Diego has the Lombardi trophy in the bag. Is there any reason to play out the string at this point? My suggestion: Have the NFL just give them their rings and we can all get focused on the upcoming Arena season.

I love it when jerk offs like this count their chickens before they hatch. Baltimore has already beaten San Diego. Rivers has never started a playoff game in his life. Long way to go before SD makes it to the big game.

 

[H.K.]

I think Gates is all that stands in their way. His poor play alone may push them back, back into the ocean and off the field of play. The Kraken, the krakennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn........ Honestly HK, did you play Ahab in a school play and just never got over the role?

I don't get your post. The Bolts are cruising despite Gates, why would this change in the post season?I was extremely doubtful of Rivers, but he has been amazing. Nobody is beating the Chargers again. Not this season, anyway.

 

[Stingdiddy]

I think Gates is all that stands in their way. His poor play alone may push them back, back into the ocean and off the field of play. The Kraken, the krakennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn........ Honestly HK, did you play Ahab in a school play and just never got over the role?

I don't get your post. The Bolts are cruising despite Gates, why would this change in the post season?I was extremely doubtful of Rivers, but he has been amazing. Nobody is beating the Chargers again. Not this season, anyway.

Dude, you're embarrasing yourself.

 

[Doug B]

How many of our ... ahem ... "older" fans can remember the "unbeatable" 1983 Redskins being taken to the woodshed by the "obviously inferior" Raiders in Super Bowl XVIII? The current talk about San Diego reminds me of the run-up through the 1983 playoffs.

 

[TheFanatic]

OK, now that the AFC has crumbled before us, is there any team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers? Bears? never.Seahawks? please.Cowboys? stop it.So, basically, it looks like San Diego has the Lombardi trophy in the bag. Is there any reason to play out the string at this point? My suggestion: Have the NFL just give them their rings and we can all get focused on the upcoming Arena season.

Bears could do it. That D is to dominant to make absolute statements like this. If Grossman plays Trent Dilfer Football from here on out they will win the championship (TRent Dilfer once he got to Baltimore).New Orleans could do it as well. I wouldn't count out the Patriots either if they make the playoffs. That team is to playoff battle tested to be counted out...

 

[H.K.]

How many of our ... ahem ... "older" fans can remember the "unbeatable" 1983 Redskins being taken to the woodshed by the "obviously inferior" Raiders in Super Bowl XVIII? The current talk about San Diego reminds me of the run-up through the 1983 playoffs.

True, but the Chargers are more comparable to the '72 Dolphins or '85 Bears.

 

[MagicMan]

Great info here

 

[Stingdiddy]

How many of our ... ahem ... "older" fans can remember the "unbeatable" 1983 Redskins being taken to the woodshed by the "obviously inferior" Raiders in Super Bowl XVIII? The current talk about San Diego reminds me of the run-up through the 1983 playoffs.

True, but the Chargers are more comparable to the '72 Dolphins or '85 Bears.

TommyGunz, is that you? I'd like to put H.K and TommyGunz in a room with the following:A worn LT JerseyA bottle of lotionA piece of breadWe all know the rest

 

[428143]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LYt2tQoifw (ignore the explicit rap music)

:runs away:

That's probably it from the NFC, although the Saints could give them a game as well...

 

[Bri]

I agree that Baltimore has a good shot at beating them.People love this argument so I'll throw it out there. How many teams with winning records has San Diego even beaten?Cinci (8-5) by 8 points after a big comeback.Denver (7-6) by 8 points after a big comeback.Denver again.

It's hard to beat any NFL team 3 times in a season. I remember a while back someone posted a stat of how rare it is that that happens. Denver handed away their season weeks ago to Cutler so it might not matter.Pats will give them all they can handle I'm sure. BB is a master at taking away one part of the opposing Os gameplan. I'll be curious to see if he can scheme something up to corral LT2 into a reasonable game and not some 3-4TD gem. Getting Rodney Harrison back for the playoffs(maybe, looks possible) is a nice shot it the arm for their D.It's funny that Dungy can't build a super D in Indy and they've been run all over but yet that guy's D mind still worries me when rooting for my team. If he can just create some defense other than the bullfighter with a cape D, then they're a scary team.

 

[Knight who says Ni]

I would love to see a Saints-Chargers Super Bowl, especially if Brees breaks Marino's passing yards record. The newly-crowned TD king vs. the newly-crowned yardage king; quite frankly, I don't even care which team would win, I just know I'd love watching that game.

Just please don't let the Bears play the Ravens. Just .... no

Ni

 

[Pygmy Marmoset]

I don't know. I mean, we don't really have any situations in the past where someone who knows ateam and an offense inside and out goes to another team and then meets his former team in the SuperBowl. I have no idea who could beat them.

 

[Doug B]

True, but the Chargers are more comparable to the '72 Dolphins or '85 Bears.

Not yet -- the playoff run has to be complete first. Those teams won the Super Bowl ... the 2006 Chargers have not even played a playoff game yet. The current Chargers, with what they've accomplished to date, are just as comparable to maybe the 1998 Vikings (15-1) or that 14-2 squad the Jaguars put out a few years ago.BTW ... those teams you mentioned may have been unbeaten (or very close), but they weren't unbeatable. Take nothing for granted in the NFL, especially in the Parity Age.

 

[jonessed]

How many of our ... ahem ... "older" fans can remember the "unbeatable" 1983 Redskins being taken to the woodshed by the "obviously inferior" Raiders in Super Bowl XVIII? The current talk about San Diego reminds me of the run-up through the 1983 playoffs.

Not really. SD wasn't even number one in most polls until a few weeks ago.This is a fishing trip anyway. It doesn't merit serious responses.

 

[H.K.]

How many of our ... ahem ... "older" fans can remember the "unbeatable" 1983 Redskins being taken to the woodshed by the "obviously inferior" Raiders in Super Bowl XVIII? The current talk about San Diego reminds me of the run-up through the 1983 playoffs.

True, but the Chargers are more comparable to the '72 Dolphins or '85 Bears.

TommyGunz, is that you? I'd like to put H.K and TommyGunz in a room with the following:A worn LT JerseyA bottle of lotionA piece of breadWe all know the rest

Not too sure I understand the venom you spew toward me and Gunz...You are one of my favorite and most respected posters around here. Personally, I think you should be on staff.Anyway, I'm just talking Bolt football, no need to make things personal.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Its not a team that can stop them, it's a person, Marty is the only thing that stands between SD and Lombardi.



Best chance to beat SD for real though is Baltimore then Indy in the playoffs, Cincy could be scary too. the NFC suxors

 

[Steeler]

Where can I bet on the AFC winning the Superbowl?

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

Due to Gates not even being a top 5 TE in the league, I think it will be there downfall. If he could have cracked the top 5 they may have had a chance, but since it was a "statistical impossibilty"tm I just can't see it happening.

 

[BGP]

OK, now that the AFC has crumbled before us, is there any team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers? Bears? never.Seahawks? please.Cowboys? stop it.So, basically, it looks like San Diego has the Lombardi trophy in the bag. Is there any reason to play out the string at this point? My suggestion: Have the NFL just give them their rings and we can all get focused on the upcoming Arena season.

Bears could do it. That D is to dominant to make absolute statements like this. If Grossman plays Trent Dilfer Football from here on out they will win the championship (TRent Dilfer once he got to Baltimore).New Orleans could do it as well. I wouldn't count out the Patriots either if they make the playoffs. That team is to playoff battle tested to be counted out...

What the Patriots have been doing this decade is ridiculous. They have topped the Rams in 2001. They go into Pittsburgh and knock off the #1 seed Steelers twice. And they do it with less talent. They do it with sometimes gaping holes on their team. You get to a point where all the old arguements just get thrown out the window. Belichick is capable of shocking anyone, and the 2006 Chargers wouldn't be the fiercest challenge he's overcome.So I just say the Patriots are the favorites until someone eliminates them.Statistically, these Patriots are better than the 2001 club. I think Belichick has enough to work with here.

 

[hellz_fireflies]

OK, now that the AFC has crumbled before us, is there any team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers? Bears? never.Seahawks? please.Cowboys? stop it.So, basically, it looks like San Diego has the Lombardi trophy in the bag. Is there any reason to play out the string at this point? My suggestion: Have the NFL just give them their rings and we can all get focused on the upcoming Arena season.

Really a simple answer but no one can answer it..they are not in the super bowl yet! If they were still can't answer it..depends on who the other teams is..so ask at super bowl time..your'll get a better reply from me!

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

All SD is doing is riding one player to a great record. What happens when LT gets hurt? Tears an ACL? Can they still produce like the seahawks did w/o their two best players....answer=NO!!!

 

[H.K.]

Due to Gates not even being a top 5 TE in the league, I think it will be there downfall. If he could have cracked the top 5 they may have had a chance, but since it was a "statistical impossibilty"tm I just can't see it happening.

meh. Gates is irrelevant. Besides, he is never needed and never a factor anyway and the Bolts are still crushing everyone.CHARGER POWER!!!!

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Due to Gates not even being a top 5 TE in the league, I think it will be there downfall. If he could have cracked the top 5 they may have had a chance, but since it was a "statistical impossibilty"tm I just can't see it happening.

meh. Gates is irrelevant. Besides, he is never needed and never a factor anyway and the Bolts are still crushing everyone.CHARGER POWER!!!!

Wrong SD is bad without LT..LT is the one..gods kid for 2006

 

[Englishteacher]

OK, now that the AFC has crumbled before us, is there any team in the NFC that can beat the Chargers? Bears? never.Seahawks? please.Cowboys? stop it.

Maybe the Booze Hounds. Minus their TE.

 

[H.K.]

Maybe the Booze Hounds. Minus their TE.

McNabb = outDJax = outKJones = outFTaylor = outH.K. = out12 -1 to one and done :(

 

[bonesman]

All SD is doing is riding one player to a great record. What happens when LT gets hurt? Tears an ACL? Can they still produce like the seahawks did w/o their two best players....answer=NO!!!

Michael "The Roaster" Toaster :(

 

[Englishteacher]

Maybe the Booze Hounds. Minus their TE.

McNabb = outDJax = outKJones = outFTaylor = outH.K. = out12 -1 to one and done

Well, I'm glad I got to beat you in the season then. Honestly, I made a lot of suspect trades only in hopes of designing some kind of dream team that could knock you out. Traded Colston, Chad Johnson, Chester Taylor, Stephen Jackson, and more to get T Holt, Roy Williams, Shaun Alexander, and stuff but couldn't get everybody firing on the right week. That's about what i expected i needed to knock you out. First round Vick throws up a stinker after being projected #1 and of course losing Ronnie Borwn hurt bad.STill think you have a shot though, as good as anyone. Javon Walker, Gates, Harrison. Harrington hasn't played bad. I'd have to look at your roster again but you've got a good shot at winning two gaems. Good luck!

 

[Englishteacher]

Maybe the Booze Hounds. Minus their TE.

McNabb = out

DJax = out

KJones = out

FTaylor = out

H.K. = out

12 -1 to one and done

Player YTD Pts ByeBrooks, Aaron OAK QB 65.1 3

Garcia, Jeff PHI QB 90.1 9

Harrington, Joey MIA QB (P) 170.9 8

Barber, Tiki NYG RB 220.2 4

Brown, Chris TEN RB 18.0 7

Harris, Arlen DET RB 20.2 8

Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB 110.5 4

Jones, Kevin DET RB (I) 224.9 8

Taylor, Fred JAC RB (P) 179.9 6

Bruce, Isaac STL WR 154.6 7

Harrison, Marvin IND WR 218.4 6

Jackson, Darrell SEA WR (O) 218.6 5

Walker, Javon DEN WR 203.3 4

Wilson, Cedrick PIT WR (D) 84.3 4

Gates, Antonio SDC TE 255.8 3

Miller, Heath PIT TE 117.6 4

Longwell, Ryan MIN PK 87.8 6

Vinatieri, Adam IND PK 85.0 6

Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def 111.0 5

Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def 115.0 4

Garcia

Jacobs

Tiki

Harrison

Walker

Bruce

Gates

Clutch

Steelers

only one spot really lacking, doable

 

[FairWarning]

How many of our ... ahem ... "older" fans can remember the "unbeatable" 1983 Redskins being taken to the woodshed by the "obviously inferior" Raiders in Super Bowl XVIII? The current talk about San Diego reminds me of the run-up through the 1983 playoffs.

I just have to go back to last year as the Colts couldn't make it out of the first round. No reason to think Cinci couldn't go to SD and win either. Marty Schottenheimer hasn't won a playoff game since 1994. I admire the optimism however.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Who can beat the Chargers in the Super Bowl?

Well, I think the Ravens can beat them in the AFC playoffs.

And I think Marty Schottenheimer can (get 'em) beat at any given time.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Maybe the NFL can pass a rule that allows two AFC teams to compete in the SB this year.

Seriously....whoever represents the AFC will steamroll the NFC representative.

 

[H.K.]

doable

Never happen. Those guys are all second stringers. I'm done.

 

[Gr00vus]

Gates

WAITAMINNUTE!!!!So H.K.'s whole Gates baiting has really been a season long Keerocking!?!?!?!

H.K. you should be more ashamed of yourself than you already are.

 

[Gr00vus]

Teams that could beat the Chargers in playoffs/superbowl:

Patriots, Ravens, Jaguars, Colts, Bears - possibly Chiefs, Bengals.

 

[H.K.]

Gates

WAITAMINNUTE!!!!So H.K.'s whole Gates baiting has really been a season long Keerocking!?!?!?!

H.K. you should be more ashamed of yourself than you already are.

I never said I didn't have him rostered. I just said he'd be an underperforming slug....and he has been. He had one good game and it was last week during my round one bye. Typical. I hate him.

 

[Gr00vus]

Gates

WAITAMINNUTE!!!!So H.K.'s whole Gates baiting has really been a season long Keerocking!?!?!?!

H.K. you should be more ashamed of yourself than you already are.

I never said I didn't have him rostered. I just said he'd be an underperforming slug....and he has been. He had one good game and it was last week during my round one bye. Typical. I hate him.

You're priceless!

 

[hellz_fireflies]

Teams that could beat the Chargers in playoffs/superbowlatriots, Ravens, Jaguars, Colts, Bears - possibly Chiefs, Bengals.

God what about the other five teams that can beat SD? Tell him people who they are!

 

[H.K.]

You're priceless!

Awww....

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

I just said he'd be an underperforming slug....and he has been.

He's on pace to match his 2004 yards and his 2005 touchdowns. Last year he became the first TE ever to catch 10+ TDs in back-to-back years. This year he became the first TE ever to catch 8+ TDs in back-to-back-to-back years, and he's on pace to get to 10 again.Gates is the #1 fantasy TE this year, and in FBG scoring, the difference between Gates and the #2 guy is bigger than the difference between the #2 guy and the #7 guy.Gates is first among TEs in TD receptions, first among TEs in receiving yards, second among TEs in receptions, and tied for fifth in the entire NFL in TD receptions (behind only Torry Holt, Darrell Jackson, Terrell Owens, and Plaxico Burress).

 

[H.K.]

I just said he'd be an underperforming slug....and he has been.

He's on pace to match his 2004 yards and his 2005 touchdowns. Last year he became the first TE ever to catch 10+ TDs in back-to-back years. This year he became the first TE ever to catch 8+ TDs in back-to-back-to-back years, and he's on pace to get to 10 again.Gates is the #1 fantasy TE this year, and in FBG scoring, the difference between Gates and the #2 guy is bigger than the difference between the #2 guy and the #7 guy.Gates is first among TEs in TD receptions, first among TEs in receiving yards, second among TEs in receptions, and tied for fifth in the entire NFL in TD receptions (behind only Torry Holt, Darrell Jackson, Terrell Owens, and Plaxico Burress).

Everything is relative. I expected more. Doesn't matter anyway. He'll tank it this week and I'll be free to get on with my life.

 

[Gr00vus]

I expected more.

Too rich!!! You've been haranguing him since day 1 this year. Enough with your thinly vieled Keerocking, even though you'll probably get 80 yards and a TD out of Gates again this week you ingrate!