Who can you expect in return for Vick? (1 Viewer)

[ppierce]

If you were to trade him what type of players, specifically who, would you want in return?

 

[sartre]

I asked for Jennings but was turned down. I think a WR in the 8-15 range is reasonable, but folks in my league are reluctant to trade.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I was able to trade him straight up for Brandon Jackson last week. I'm sure his value is higher than that now (depending on what BJax does tonight)...

 

[Son of Jah]

I turned down BJax and SMoss last week.

I was turned down asking for RMoss or GJennings for Vick/Harvin. I was shot down offering Vick/Addai for MJD.

Already have an offer today of Knowshown/Crabtree for Vick.

 

[SanDawg]

I traded him for Forte, before the Jax game, wish I would have waited.

 

[shredhead]

I traded him for Forte, before the Jax game, wish I would have waited.

As a Vick owner, this is the first trade mentioned in this thread that I'd even consider so far.

 

[Multiple Scores]

I wouldn't give a piece of used bubblegum that snails pooped on for him, he won't be on any of my teams.

 

[FUBAR]

It simply comes down to whether you expect him to keep the job. If the gaining owner does, in a normal league I'd probably seek a WR like Jennings or maybe Nicks, or a RB like Forte or maybe DWill. Just try to find the owner who needs a QB and thinks Vick starts all year. I hope he does, but I'm far from certain.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

Not sure if there's ever been a player who's run the gamut on opinion from "probably the single most valuable player in FF right now" all the way to "completely unownable."

If you have him, offer him for anything and everything, and see how it goes.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I wouldn't give a piece of used bubblegum that snails pooped on for him, he won't be on any of my teams.

Then why post in this thread? Hell, why even click on it? It's labeled pretty clearly. Did you think the entire SP was anxiously awaiting the word of Multiple Scores and his personal opinion of Michael Vick?

 

[shredhead]

I wouldn't give a piece of used bubblegum that snails pooped on for him, he won't be on any of my teams.

Kinda short sighted to completely ignore the #2QB overall isn't it?

 

[Dr. Awesome]

For those looking to sell - why are you moving the guy? He's been the best qb the last two weeks. Wouldn't it make more sense to sell your other qb? The only reason you'd look to move Vick is because you think he won't keep it up and/or will lose his job...and if you really think that your asking price shouldn't be as high as a top 15 wr.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

I wouldn't give a piece of used bubblegum that snails pooped on for him, he won't be on any of my teams.

Then why post in this thread? Hell, why even click on it? It's labeled pretty clearly. Did you think the entire SP was anxiously awaiting the word of Multiple Scores and his personal opinion of Michael Vick?

Who can you expect in return for Vick?

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

The only reason you'd look to move Vick is because you think he won't keep it up and/or will lose his job...and if you really think that your asking price shouldn't be as high as a top 15 wr.

I think the whole point of the "sell high" principle is to get MORE value for your player than you think he'll ultimately be worth. If you ask for less than the perceived value simply because you think the perceived value is too high, you're doing it wrong.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Right...because if somebody said give me Sebastian Janikowski for Michael Vick I'm sure he'd say no.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

It simply comes down to whether you expect him to keep the job. If the gaining owner does, in a normal league I'd probably seek a WR like Jennings or maybe Nicks, or a RB like Forte or maybe DWill. Just try to find the owner who needs a QB and thinks Vick starts all year. I hope he does, but I'm far from certain.

This is the conundrum. Do you trust he starts all season, and potentially beyond for dynasty, or not? He's certainly looked good in the Reid offense. Is this just an anomaly, and he'll 'regress to the mean' of his career, or is he having some kind of crazy 'Steve Young/Randall Cunningham' moment where the switch has flipped and he's going to become more of a passer with elite mobility, instead of a running back that sometimes throws, for the remainder of his career? I can't say I trust 100% that Reid won't flip-flop again at the first sign of trouble, but with each big game I expect he's buying himself more and more rope, that is for certain.In redraft, given how the Panthers have performed so far, if I felt Vick was a lock to start at least 15 games this year I'd probably have to consider doing that deal long and hard if I owned Williams and the Vick owner was willing to accept him. Dynasty it may make me pause more, but I still may consider it if I were 'a QB away' for this year.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

Right...because if somebody said give me Sebastian Janikowski for Michael Vick I'm sure he'd say no.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

The only reason you'd look to move Vick is because you think he won't keep it up and/or will lose his job...and if you really think that your asking price shouldn't be as high as a top 15 wr.

I think the whole point of the "sell high" principle is to get MORE value for your player than you think he'll ultimately be worth. If you ask for less than the perceived value simply because you think the perceived value is too high, you're doing it wrong.

I don't see how Vick isn't a top 3 qb moving forward...so I'm not sure how you'd be getting more than he's ultimately worth. But fair point. I'm honestly shocked at how little he's going for per this thread.

 

[Instinctive]

I am trying to package him with a WR2/RB2 type for Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers...

I think that if you don't have one of those elite QBs but were perhaps the Kolb owner and picked him up, the upgrade route may be the way to go. Because you waited on a QB in the draft you should be set at your skill positions.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

For those looking to sell - why are you moving the guy? He's been the best qb the last two weeks. Wouldn't it make more sense to sell your other qb? The only reason you'd look to move Vick is because you think he won't keep it up and/or will lose his job...and if you really think that your asking price shouldn't be as high as a top 15 wr.

In the leagues I'm in where I'm seeing him shopped, it's typically teams that had him as a third(or fourth) QB behind one of the big 3-4. I'd wager very few owners are going to have the nuts to move Brady, Brees, Manning or Rodgers to play Vick the rest of the way.

 

[cr8f]

Last week McFadden was traded for him.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I have Kolb as my #3 (start 2 qb) and I'm thinking hard about trading away Brady for Vick+.

 

[thatguy]

I believe Vick's resurgence to be completely legit and I expect him to remain the starter and continue to play at an elite level. I always kind of wondered how Vick would perform with elite weapons--in Atlanta, his biggest weapon was Alge Crumpler. Now we're finding out--some of the passes he is making are ridiculous, and his decision making has for the most part been impeccable. This really just seems to be the perfect storm. I would not sell for anything less than a top 10 WR.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

I would not be too greedy if you can get something.

Entirely too much Kool-Aid being drank for a player who's major triumphs have been wins over the lowly Lions & Jaguars. I also wonder just how much game planning Green Bay did for him prior to the week 1 game. Sorry folks, I chased this one too many times to come up empty.

 

[NoCheese]

I wouldn't give a piece of used bubblegum that snails pooped on for him, he won't be on any of my teams.

Clearly you are a great fantasy football mind.

 

[NoCheese]

I would not be too greedy if you can get something.

Entirely too much Kool-Aid being drank for a player who's major triumphs have been wins over the lowly Lions & Jaguars. I also wonder just how much game planning Green Bay did for him prior to the week 1 game. Sorry folks, I chased this one too many times to come up empty.

Perhaps, but he also looked dynamite against Green Bay and both of those games vs. the Lions and Jaguars were on the road. What is he supposed to do to impress you? 4 total TD's and over 300 total yards is an unbelievable game against anyone. Outside of the Top 5-6 QB's, there's no one I'd rather have going forward. He's on par w/ Rivers and Schaub.

 

[Happy Ragnarok]

What is he supposed to do to impress you?

Show a little remorse for hanging, drowning, and electrocuting dogs.

 

[NoCheese]

I'm looking to move either Vick OR Cutler plus a Kevin Walter OR Steve Smith (NYG) to the DeSean Jackson owner whose only other QB's are Favre/Kolb. I hope that's not too much. Prefer to trade Cutler instead of Vick, but I believe in Cutler.

 

[tigerz]

Hmm, well I asked the vick owner what he wanted and he said Roddy White + Donovan Mcnabb + Chargers DST. I kind of think that's way too much even though I like him but I am considering it. Honestly, I feel like I would trade Calvin + Mcnabb or Nicks + Mcnabb for him easily. As for RBs, I feel like I would give up someone like Best or Bradshaw +Mcnabb for him. It's just that there seem to be a lot of good QBs out there in a 10 team league so I don't know that you can overcharge when there are like 7 other QBs out there who are doing decent.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

I would not be too greedy if you can get something.

Entirely too much Kool-Aid being drank for a player who's major triumphs have been wins over the lowly Lions & Jaguars. I also wonder just how much game planning Green Bay did for him prior to the week 1 game. Sorry folks, I chased this one too many times to come up empty.

Perhaps, but he also looked dynamite against Green Bay and both of those games vs. the Lions and Jaguars were on the road. What is he supposed to do to impress you? 4 total TD's and over 300 total yards is an unbelievable game against anyone. Outside of the Top 5-6 QB's, there's no one I'd rather have going forward. He's on par w/ Rivers and Schaub.

Combination of upcoming schedule and years of inconsistency are what leaves me un-impressed. We have seen Vick play like this before - only to fall off the map. Don't get me wrong, I want him to succeed. He paid his debt to society. I just think that if you could get a Top 15 WR for him - run don't walk to get that trade done.

 

[thatguy]

I would not be too greedy if you can get something.

Entirely too much Kool-Aid being drank for a player who's major triumphs have been wins over the lowly Lions & Jaguars. I also wonder just how much game planning Green Bay did for him prior to the week 1 game. Sorry folks, I chased this one too many times to come up empty.

Perhaps, but he also looked dynamite against Green Bay and both of those games vs. the Lions and Jaguars were on the road. What is he supposed to do to impress you? 4 total TD's and over 300 total yards is an unbelievable game against anyone. Outside of the Top 5-6 QB's, there's no one I'd rather have going forward. He's on par w/ Rivers and Schaub.

Combination of upcoming schedule and years of inconsistency are what leaves me un-impressed. We have seen Vick play like this before - only to fall off the map. Don't get me wrong, I want him to succeed. He paid his debt to society. I just think that if you could get a Top 15 WR for him - run don't walk to get that trade done.

I haven't.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

I would not be too greedy if you can get something.

Entirely too much Kool-Aid being drank for a player who's major triumphs have been wins over the lowly Lions & Jaguars. I also wonder just how much game planning Green Bay did for him prior to the week 1 game. Sorry folks, I chased this one too many times to come up empty.

Perhaps, but he also looked dynamite against Green Bay and both of those games vs. the Lions and Jaguars were on the road. What is he supposed to do to impress you? 4 total TD's and over 300 total yards is an unbelievable game against anyone. Outside of the Top 5-6 QB's, there's no one I'd rather have going forward. He's on par w/ Rivers and Schaub.

Combination of upcoming schedule and years of inconsistency are what leaves me un-impressed. We have seen Vick play like this before - only to fall off the map. Don't get me wrong, I want him to succeed. He paid his debt to society. I just think that if you could get a Top 15 WR for him - run don't walk to get that trade done.

I haven't.

Spoken like someone who has Vick on his Fantasy Squad.

 

[thatguy]

I would not be too greedy if you can get something.

Entirely too much Kool-Aid being drank for a player who's major triumphs have been wins over the lowly Lions & Jaguars. I also wonder just how much game planning Green Bay did for him prior to the week 1 game. Sorry folks, I chased this one too many times to come up empty.

Perhaps, but he also looked dynamite against Green Bay and both of those games vs. the Lions and Jaguars were on the road. What is he supposed to do to impress you? 4 total TD's and over 300 total yards is an unbelievable game against anyone. Outside of the Top 5-6 QB's, there's no one I'd rather have going forward. He's on par w/ Rivers and Schaub.

Combination of upcoming schedule and years of inconsistency are what leaves me un-impressed. We have seen Vick play like this before - only to fall off the map. Don't get me wrong, I want him to succeed. He paid his debt to society. I just think that if you could get a Top 15 WR for him - run don't walk to get that trade done.

I haven't.

Spoken like someone who has Vick on his Fantasy Squad.

You're right. I've no ability to separate fantasy from reality.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I traded Flacco and D.Gettis

for

Vick J.Davis and a future 3rd.

(originally had Schaub Flacco and Vick but cut Vick to make room for some pick ups. Then he was claimed by someone else so i traded back for him last week)

Now rolling with Schaub and Vick.

 

[Wu-banger]

Friday was able to get Ray Rice for Vick.... guy is loaded at Rb and an Eagles fan so that might have elavated his value of Vick......

....or he had a crystal ball and knew Rice was going to get hurt on Sunday.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

Two data points.

12 team Super Flex league (can start 2 QB's but don't have to). Vick was traded for Steven Jackson before the Week 3 games.

14 team Standard league (no flex). I was offered Vick for Matt Forte (again before yesterday's games). I turned it down as I have Orton at QB and am already thin at RB.

 

[fsufan]

Had a good offer on the table last week but turned it down, got burned by Vick 4 or 5 years ago. Now the other guy wants more

Dynasty league

I give Lewis(TE) and 2011 1st

I get Vick and 2011 2ns

having to go with palmer till Big Ben gets back

 

[fsufan]

It simply comes down to whether you expect him to keep the job.

this is what I was scared of, him losing the job down the road

 

[thatguy]

It simply comes down to whether you expect him to keep the job.

this is what I was scared of, him losing the job down the road

Well, whether you think he will keep the job or not really boils down to whether or not you think his hot start is legit. If you think it's legit, and he will continue to play at an elite level, then you need not worry about his job security. However, if you believe his hot start is a bit of smoke and mirrors, then his job security should be a concern. If you're considering trading for him in the first place, it's likely that you believe his hot start is legit, and therefore you should not worry about his job security.

 

[Clifford]

It simply comes down to whether you expect him to keep the job. If the gaining owner does, in a normal league I'd probably seek a WR like Jennings or maybe Nicks, or a RB like Forte or maybe DWill. Just try to find the owner who needs a QB and thinks Vick starts all year. I hope he does, but I'm far from certain.

What reason do we have to think he doesn't? I can think of a handful of QBs who have performed better but that's it.

 

[JHuber77]

For those looking to sell - why are you moving the guy? He's been the best qb the last two weeks. Wouldn't it make more sense to sell your other qb? The only reason you'd look to move Vick is because you think he won't keep it up and/or will lose his job...and if you really think that your asking price shouldn't be as high as a top 15 wr.

In the leagues I'm in where I'm seeing him shopped, it's typically teams that had him as a third(or fourth) QB behind one of the big 3-4. I'd wager very few owners are going to have the nuts to move Brady, Brees, Manning or Rodgers to play Vick the rest of the way.

I'm thinking of doing exactly this. Getting rid of Brady for a top 5 WR and rolling with Vick the rest of the way. Food for thought, based on the strength of schedule, the eagles have the 3rd best for QB's. If you play in a league that awards more for rushing than passing, this should be a no brainer.

 

[FUBAR]

It simply comes down to whether you expect him to keep the job. If the gaining owner does, in a normal league I'd probably seek a WR like Jennings or maybe Nicks, or a RB like Forte or maybe DWill. Just try to find the owner who needs a QB and thinks Vick starts all year. I hope he does, but I'm far from certain.

What reason do we have to think he doesn't? I can think of a handful of QBs who have performed better but that's it.

If he struggles at all, Reid might feel compelled to put the guy they expected to be their franchise guy back in.

At this point it's basically conjecture but the possibility is there much more so than for any other top 12 QB.

 

[bweiser]

I have Vick in a league where I can start two QBs. My other is Schaub and I dropped Cassel before his big game yesterday to add Vick. I'm in first place (total points) and the defending champion. Honestly, I don't think I'd trade Vick for anything short of Brees, Rodgers or P. Manning. I ain't getting them. I would seriously consider Vick for Flacco, too, just because I'm a huge believer in Flacco and he's younger, but I think that would hurt my team for 2010 and would be hesitant to do that.

 

[kellumsboys]

I was offered Cedric Benson for Vick before this weeks game.

I accepted since I already have Aaron Rodgers.

another owner had offered me the Jets D ....... lol

 

[renesauz]

Had a guy trying to get me to trade him Vick and a first (likely late, but definately not early) for his Romo in a league where we can start a second QB. I tried to talk him down to a second, but he wouldn't do it.

I'm glad I held firm.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

The only reason you'd look to move Vick is because you think he won't keep it up and/or will lose his job...and if you really think that your asking price shouldn't be as high as a top 15 wr.

I think the whole point of the "sell high" principle is to get MORE value for your player than you think he'll ultimately be worth. If you ask for less than the perceived value simply because you think the perceived value is too high, you're doing it wrong.

I don't see how Vick isn't a top 3 qb moving forward...so I'm not sure how you'd be getting more than he's ultimately worth. But fair point. I'm honestly shocked at how little he's going for per this thread.

Because he's not playing Detroit and Jacksonville every week.

 

[kylechoffman]

I was offered Vick straight up for Gates in a TE required ppr league, start 2QB. Took it and ran since he was my QB3 behind brady and p manning.

 

[John Windle]

Combination of upcoming schedule and years of inconsistency are what leaves me un-impressed. We have seen Vick play like this before - only to fall off the map. Don't get me wrong, I want him to succeed. He paid his debt to society. I just think that if you could get a Top 15 WR for him - run don't walk to get that trade done.

Actually... we haven't seen him play like this before. Never in his career had he put up back to back 100 QB rating games. And now he has three.We've seen exciting things from Vick before, but we've NEVER seen him throw the ball like this.

 

[howardroark]

What is he supposed to do to impress you?

Show a little remorse for hanging, drowning, and electrocuting dogs.

can you do this in another vick thread? thanks happy.

 

[howardroark]

i play in a start 2 QB league. I would need to be blown away to move this guy. I fee like I already hit the lottery considering i was 6th on the waivers and I actually got him.