Who has more dynasty upside looking ahead to 2009? (1 Viewer)

[BeTheMatch]

Ward is a free agent, and so is Jacobs. Both don't figure to come back to NY next year. I'm guessing they'll keep Jacobs and then have Bradshaw as his complement. So then maybe Ward lands a starting gig somewhere else. But will he? Has he shown enough?

And Benson is a free agent, too. He's talked about being open to coming back. Cinci has other holes to fill. So do they bring him back to start again? He's been okay but not great.

 

[MAC_32]

Ward.

We know what Benson is, we don't know what Ward is. He will likely be the most sought after free agent RB this offseason.

 

[Pots]

I like Ward a lot.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Don't forget Ward will be 29 next season. He's only been in the league for four years, but dropped out of college for a year and the spent a season on the Jet practice squad.

Still I'd rather own Ward, but his window will close faster than we may think.

 

[MAC_32]

Don't forget Ward will be 29 next season. He's only been in the league for four years, but dropped out of college for a year and the spent a season on the Jet practice squad.Still I'd rather own Ward, but his window will close faster than we may think.

2 years of Ward > 5 years of Benson

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Ward is a free agent, and so is Jacobs. Both don't figure to come back to NY next year. I'm guessing they'll keep Jacobs and then have Bradshaw as his complement. So then maybe Ward lands a starting gig somewhere else. But will he? Has he shown enough?

And Benson is a free agent, too. He's talked about being open to coming back. Cinci has other holes to fill. So do they bring him back to start again? He's been okay but not great.

Is it a for sure that Jacobs will go somewhere else?

 

[BeTheMatch]

Ward is a free agent, and so is Jacobs. Both don't figure to come back to NY next year. I'm guessing they'll keep Jacobs and then have Bradshaw as his complement. So then maybe Ward lands a starting gig somewhere else. But will he? Has he shown enough?

And Benson is a free agent, too. He's talked about being open to coming back. Cinci has other holes to fill. So do they bring him back to start again? He's been okay but not great.

Is it a for sure that Jacobs will go somewhere else?

I was meaning they both won't be back - meaning one will, but not both. I'm assuming Jacobs will be back and Ward, therefore, probably won't.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

1. Ward

2. Benson

 

[BeTheMatch]

Assuming Ward leaves via free agency, what are some spots where he could land as the No. 1 back?

 

[Loan Sharks]

Assuming Ward leaves via free agency, what are some spots where he could land as the No. 1 back?

I was thinking about this and the one that popped into my head was the Saints. I don't know the cap or feasibility of this but my thought was that Ward would be a nice addition to replace Duece and be a good compliment to Bush.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Assuming Ward leaves via free agency, what are some spots where he could land as the No. 1 back?

I was thinking about this and the one that popped into my head was the Saints. I don't know the cap or feasibility of this but my thought was that Ward would be a nice addition to replace Duece and be a good compliment to Bush.

I was thinking Thomas was a lock to keep that role.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Some possible landing spots:

Denver

Seattle

Arizona

New England

Cincinnati

Cleveland

Houston

Indy

K.C.

Tampa

 

[MAC_32]

Ward is a free agent, and so is Jacobs. Both don't figure to come back to NY next year. I'm guessing they'll keep Jacobs and then have Bradshaw as his complement. So then maybe Ward lands a starting gig somewhere else. But will he? Has he shown enough?

And Benson is a free agent, too. He's talked about being open to coming back. Cinci has other holes to fill. So do they bring him back to start again? He's been okay but not great.

Is it a for sure that Jacobs will go somewhere else?

No, but I would think the Giants recognize that slightly over paying for Jacobs would be wiser than slightly over paying for Ward. Ward's a quality ball carrier, but he's replaceable. RB's like Jacobs are much more difficult to find.

 

[JamesTheScot]

For dynasty, I'd go with Benson. It's just an odds thing. He's younger with a first round pedigree. That equals lots of second chances in the NFL. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it is.

Benson seems to have kept his composure this season so I think that makes more teams take him seriously from here out. If he's put his bad attitude behind him, I think his perceived talent makes him attractive to many teams, especially if he can be had on the cheap. He has the physical makeup to be an every down back so I can see a team with a need giving him the shot at a 20 carry gig.

Ward has definitely produced, but for a very good team where all their RB's produce. I'm not sure how highly his individual skills will be rated in the free agency market. He may be typecast as a decent all-around, blue-collar back so I'm not sure a team with a glaring need for a bellcow or 1A in a RBBC will come knocking to his door.

 

[BeTheMatch]

For dynasty, I'd go with Benson. It's just an odds thing. He's younger with a first round pedigree. That equals lots of second chances in the NFL. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it is. Benson seems to have kept his composure this season so I think that makes more teams take him seriously from here out. If he's put his bad attitude behind him, I think his perceived talent makes him attractive to many teams, especially if he can be had on the cheap. He has the physical makeup to be an every down back so I can see a team with a need giving him the shot at a 20 carry gig.Ward has definitely produced, but for a very good team where all their RB's produce. I'm not sure how highly his individual skills will be rated in the free agency market. He may be typecast as a decent all-around, blue-collar back so I'm not sure a team with a glaring need for a bellcow or 1A in a RBBC will come knocking to his door.

That's kind of why I posed the question. I was thinking the same thing.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Assuming Ward leaves via free agency, what are some spots where he could land as the No. 1 back?

I was thinking about this and the one that popped into my head was the Saints. I don't know the cap or feasibility of this but my thought was that Ward would be a nice addition to replace Duece and be a good compliment to Bush.

I was thinking Thomas was a lock to keep that role.

I just looked and I really didnt know how productive Thomas had been. I thought Thomas was a pedestrian fill in. I guess when you have Bush and a quarterback going for the all time passing yards record you get a lot less press.

 

[Loan Sharks]

Some possible landing spotsenverSeattleArizonaNew EnglandCincinnatiClevelandHoustonIndyK.C.Tampa

Denver - you never know but I dont think it fits the patternSeattle - Very possible I think they hate Jones and they may not want to rely on MorrisArizona - Possible if they bag JamesNE - I just dont see it, they are very happy with Morris, Ellis, Jordan and that is if Maroney is gone, too many productive guys thereCincy - possible, I wonder what they think of Benson thoughClevland - Is Lewis leaving? Houston - no Indy - no KC - If Larry is gone yes Tampa - I think they give caddy another chance and Graham will be back.What do you think about Green Bay? Are they gonna stick with Grant?I think the most likely place actually is that the Giants find a way to keep him.

 

[Abraham]

Benson.

Ward is a fine back as well, but if I had to guess which one will have the most games with 20+ touches next year, its Benson. And in mid-late round flyers, I'll be looking for guys with a chance at lots of touches.

 

[Buckna]

Don't forget that Ward already tested the free agent waters last year and ended up going back to the Giants when no one else wanted him. Maybe he will get more interest this year since his body of work is more than just half a season, but it seems doubtful the demand for him would have increased that much over last year.

 

[DWidmar]

Benson is much younger and I think he still has some upside. Ward has had a solid year but in past years he has really had problems with injuries. That may be why he didnt get much interest last year on the free agent market.

 

[Avery]

Don't forget that Ward already tested the free agent waters last year and ended up going back to the Giants when no one else wanted him. Maybe he will get more interest this year since his body of work is more than just half a season, but it seems doubtful the demand for him would have increased that much over last year.

I doubt Ward resigns with the Giants, given that I expect them to resign Jacobs and they have the cheaper Bradshaw and Ware, who they are high on, waiting in the wings.Having said that, I don't expect anyone to throw big money at Ward, for the reasons others have said. I expect might go somewhere as a stopgap player or a committee situation. Somewhere like Cleavland where they might draft a RB on the second day and hedge their bets by signing Ward as well.

 

[gianmarco]

Ward and not close in my mind. Landing in Denver would be a dream for both, I think. Either way, Ward has shown ability to run between the tackles, run outside, and catch the ball as well as being adequate in pass protection. Yes, he's on the older side, but as pointed out above, 2 yrs of Ward is > 5 yrs of Benson.

 

[finito]

Ward and not close in my mind. Landing in Denver would be a dream for both, I think. Either way, Ward has shown ability to run between the tackles, run outside, and catch the ball as well as being adequate in pass protection. Yes, he's on the older side, but as pointed out above, 2 yrs of Ward is > 5 yrs of Benson.

Ward is decent, but I don't think people view him as a workhorse back. He's great in tandem with Jacobs when Jacobs is being used to batter defenses, but I doubt Ward will ever be a guy who consistantly gets 20 carries a game. Benson I could see being a workhorse, and I don't think there is a big difference in talent.

 

[Avery]

Ward and not close in my mind. Landing in Denver would be a dream for both, I think. Either way, Ward has shown ability to run between the tackles, run outside, and catch the ball as well as being adequate in pass protection. Yes, he's on the older side, but as pointed out above, 2 yrs of Ward is > 5 yrs of Benson.

The difference between Ward's production when he is platooning with/backing up Jacobs and when Ward is starting on his own tells me that Ward's production is partly due to Jacobs beating the snot out of the defense.

 

[BeTheMatch]

Ward and not close in my mind. Landing in Denver would be a dream for both, I think. Either way, Ward has shown ability to run between the tackles, run outside, and catch the ball as well as being adequate in pass protection. Yes, he's on the older side, but as pointed out above, 2 yrs of Ward is > 5 yrs of Benson.

The difference between Ward's production when he is platooning with/backing up Jacobs and when Ward is starting on his own tells me that Ward's production is partly due to Jacobs beating the snot out of the defense.

Do you have a breakdown of this? I'd be interested to see Ward's numbers with and without Jacobs.

 

[gianmarco]

Ward and not close in my mind. Landing in Denver would be a dream for both, I think. Either way, Ward has shown ability to run between the tackles, run outside, and catch the ball as well as being adequate in pass protection. Yes, he's on the older side, but as pointed out above, 2 yrs of Ward is > 5 yrs of Benson.

The difference between Ward's production when he is platooning with/backing up Jacobs and when Ward is starting on his own tells me that Ward's production is partly due to Jacobs beating the snot out of the defense.

Do you have a breakdown of this? I'd be interested to see Ward's numbers with and without Jacobs.

I'll go back and look, but Ward was definitely productive last year when Jacobs was out for some time. I think people's memories are short as they saw what happened 2 weeks ago with Jacobs out and Ward struggled. But, he is not a small back and I think is definitely capable of being a 20 carry RB. Much more so than Bradshaw whom a lot of people thought was the next coming while Ward was overlooked.

 

[twr]

ward is really underrated, but being 29 next season really puts a damper on him in dynasty leagues. if he lands a starting gig next season he could be as productive as turner is in atlanta, hes that good.

 

[sho nuff]

Some possible landing spots:

Denver

Seattle

Arizona

New England

Cincinnati

Cleveland

Houston

Indy

K.C.

Tampa

Denver - you never know but I dont think it fits the patternSeattle - Very possible I think they hate Jones and they may not want to rely on Morris

Arizona - Possible if they bag James

NE - I just dont see it, they are very happy with Morris, Ellis, Jordan and that is if Maroney is gone, too many productive guys there

Cincy - possible, I wonder what they think of Benson though

Clevland - Is Lewis leaving?

Houston - no

Indy - no

KC - If Larry is gone yes

Tampa - I think they give caddy another chance and Graham will be back.

What do you think about Green Bay? Are they gonna stick with Grant?

I think the most likely place actually is that the Giants find a way to keep him.

While I think Id like a Ward and Jackson duo....I think they have other issues than RB to be going out and signing.Grant will be interesting. He is due a nice bonus this offseason that they can cut ties and pretty much just have paid him 4.25 mil for this year and be done with it if they want.

I am not sure how year 2 works in his contract or what the exact bonus is (I think it was something like 2 mil).

Jackson showed promise at times...but was dinged so often, I don't know if they can count on him to carry the load.

But with the need to sign Jennings to an extension (well, a need if they want to keep him happy)...Tauscher a free agent, Clifton getting older, and needs on the Dline...not sure where Ward or any RB ranks on the list of needs (especially with the seeming ease that others are having bringing in rookies and getting good production out of them).