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Who has more talent? (1 Viewer)
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jimmy b
Footballguy
5 people must not have watched football last year.
fsufan
Footballguy
he probable just traded Moss for CJ and is trying to make his self feel better
Calvin johnson is an elite talent, perhaps the most talented/gifted wr to enter the league since Randy Moss. Moss, though is the most talented player I have seen in my 20+ years of wathcing football. Jerry Rice was, without question, the greatest WR to ever play, but Moss is the most talented.
Granted, Moss has had several "turdlike" incidents and a couple of dud seasons, but make no mistake, he is more talented than Calvin Johnson.
Granted, Moss has had several "turdlike" incidents and a couple of dud seasons, but make no mistake, he is more talented than Calvin Johnson.
ILoveMyLions
Footballguy
Agree 100%
puckalicious
Footballguy
Moss on teams with good to great QB play = extremely talentedMoss on team with poor QB play = mediocreJohnson on team with poor to average QB play = showing signs of being extremely talented.CJ is a physical freak of nature and Moss doesn't have those measurables. Does this equal talent? Not directly. To me the only thing that will hold him back from being one of the best is supporting cast.My vote? Moss. For now.After this season it might be difficult to trade for CJ in dynasty leagues, even with Moss.
Okay. A wide receiver benefits when he has a QB who can deliver the ball. I would think that basic principle applies to Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, Jerry Rice, or any other wide receiver you care to mention. Not sure what your point is here.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I traded Moss for CJ, Gates, and Mendenhall after our extended online draft started a few weeks ago. I'm feeling pretty good about that right now.
Jerry Lawler
Footballguy
Moss has crazy talent, so I had to vote for him. Still, I would rather have Johnson on an NFL roster because of Moss' questionable and unpredictable effort level. I'd take Johnson over Moss in a dynasty fantasy league too.
Unlucky
Phenom
I don't even know why I'm responding to this nonsense. Anyway, Moss had superstars like Brad Johnson, Randall Cunningham at 80 years old, Jeff George at 80 years old, Culpepper (notice how good he is without Randy catching it), Kerry Collins, Aaron Brooks. Wow. Please, tell me which one of these QBs is so much better than Jon Kitna? Brady is the only elite QB ever to throw to Randy, and we saw what happened. Randy made those other QBs look good, not the other way around. Calvin is awesome. I love him. But he's not Randy Moss, and never will be.puckalicious said:
jamil
Footballguy
wasn't there one other QB on minnesota that moss made look great? i forget his name but werent his initals BB?exactly what does CJ do better than moss? i was the biggest CJ fan in college, and while he has the potential and measurables, but right now moss is what CJ hopes he can be.
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puckalicious
Footballguy
Tom Baker said:
Thought my post was pretty unambiguous.
LHUCKS
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puckalicious
Footballguy
That's kind of what I'm saying. (on the field, obviously not on a personal level)
exactly what does CJ do better than moss? i was the biggest CJ fan in college, and while he has the potential and measurables, but right now moss is what CJ hopes he can be.
Tom Baker said:Thought my post was pretty unambiguous.
it was silly but it was unambiguous.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Love Calvin Johnson but if you want to compare apples look at each player's rookie season.
I have never seen anyone as talented as Moss play football in my 30 years of watching. He made Daunte Culpepper look good, and that guy was a trainwreck.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I'm not saying Calvin is Randy Moss but if a guy is injured like Calvin Johnson was, I don't think this is the way to fairly evaluate the two of them.I'm not going to use words like Never and NO Way when comparing Johnson to Moss because if it's one thing I've learned over all the years of watching sports, you just never know.When you see things like Michael Phelps, the season Tom Brady had last year or the season Randy Moss had last year, it would have been easy to say things like NO WAY will Tom Brady ever throw 50 TD's passes in one season or Randy Moss 22 in a season.I can live with saying it's highly unlikely that Calvin Johnson will be as good as Randy Moss, but that's a tribute to Randy and not a knock on Calvin. One things for sure, one receiver will come along one day and beat Randy's record during the regular season and that WR may even show up in the playoffs.
Frenchy Fuqua
Footballguy
Fair point on Calvin. Worth noting that Moss was the #1 fantasy WR as a rookie despite playing 3rd WR in Minn (behind Jake Reed) for much of the season.
Super King
Footballguy
Didn't know the OP had 30 different aliases. That's impressive.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Calvin could turn out to be a premier talent. Randy Moss is the most talented WR ever imo. Not the best, but the guy with the most raw talent. If Moss had Rice's determination and work ethic, it's hard to imagine what he'd be like. Whatever it would be, I'd pay to see it.
encaitar
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If we are talking strictly who has more talent, then it's Moss with no questions. He had 4.2 speed and a 40+ inch vertical when he came into this league. Plus, he can manipulate his body and (like was mentioned earlier) track the ball like no one else. Calvin Johnson is very talented, but definitely no Randy Moss.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Moss is more talented, but if you ask this same question a few years from now, the answer could be different. There has never been a WR with the combination of skills and athletic ability that Calvin has. But comparing his talent to that of Moss right now is ridiculous. And this comes from arguably the biggest Calvin Johnson fan here.
thehornet
Footballguy
This is really all that needs to be said about this topic.
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