Who is gonna be a better #2? (1 Viewer)

[todisco1]

Burleson has a 1000 yard season

So does Derrick Mason but that doesn't mean I'd draft him ahead of Manningham.

Also, Masons situation is different, but people who watch football and understand it, know that.Do I really have to discuss the concept of what certain player situations mean to performance?

Eli Sucks, fact. The running game in NY seens to be pretty good. Manningham Plays Phillys corners twice.

Matty is freak, but I'm sure all you prisoners of the moment will say "can he stay healthy", if thats your comment your not as smart of a fantasy owner, so I should not even be having this discussion with you. However, no running game an elite amongst elite WR in CJ on the otherside, and an easier schedule...plus just a skillfully better player then Mario, like I said i love Mario as I'm a Meechigan fan.

But yup, lets use last year to predict a new year. If we go of last year, the the team that won the SB the previous year should always win it, but they dont, because thats how much last year matters to this year.

You keep saying its some sort of fact that Eli sucks, but that's hardly true. Especially for fantasy purposes. Sure, he throws picks. He also throws 4000+ yards, 25-30 tds and has only finished out of the top 13 fantasy QBs once; his rookie year. He gets people the ball.

Aint gonna lie there, but it just so happens the people getting the ball are wearing the other color jerseys.asnd for Fantasy purposes, Eli does suck, oh and in real life purposes too.

Would he even be in the top 20 QBs if you were starting a new team? on the cusp for me.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Eli Manning is not a top tier QB, but he's a good NFL quarterback. To completely dismiss him is ridiculous.

Ok, says you and anyone else who has "no idea what they are talking about."Like S. A. Smith said. "Tell me one player who has said they can't wait to play with Eli Manning?"

Its a fact, people do not rush to play with Eli or Coughlin. Its off people refer to their SB title, as if they were the best team that year. They beat the best team, but it sure had to do with the defense and gum stuck to a helmet.

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. You say Eli "sucks." He doesn't suck. Ask any GM in the league if Eli is a worthless QB and you will get a unanimous answer that he's a good QB. It's fine if you don't think he's very good, but to simply say he "sucks" makes no sense. Ask Seattle or San Fran or Cincy or Miami if Eli is completely worthless... they'd love to have a QB like him right now.

 

[AmosMoses]

In most leagues, Burleson isn't even worth rostering. Let's get serious here.

Fishing or poorly informed. You tell me.

If Burleson makes your starting lineup, then your team is in bad shape.

 

[bulger2holt]

In a 12 team league with 3 WR and a Flex, you could do a lot worse than Burleson as your Flex. Like I said earlier, Burleson with Stafford playing all 16 games = 80/1000/10

 

[todisco1]

In most leagues, Burleson isn't even worth rostering. Let's get serious here.

Fishing or poorly informed. You tell me.

If Burleson makes your starting lineup, then your team is in bad shape.

That's not the point you made, you said he wasn't worth rostering, which is far different. He is worth rostering in all but the smallest leagues.

 

[mr roboto]

In most leagues, Burleson isn't even worth rostering. Let's get serious here.

Fishing or poorly informed. You tell me.

If Burleson makes your starting lineup, then your team is in bad shape.

That's not the point you made, you said he wasn't worth rostering, which is far different. He is worth rostering in all but the smallest leagues.

26 man rosters, 10-team star 3 WR with a flex. An established vet #2 with a young up-and-coming stud QB with a stud WR1 taking double teams? I'll gladly take Burleson as my WR 4/5 with good upside. But guppie leagues must be nice.

 

[shnikies]

In most leagues, Burleson isn't even worth rostering. Let's get serious here.

Fishing or poorly informed. You tell me.

If Burleson makes your starting lineup, then your team is in bad shape.

That's not the point you made, you said he wasn't worth rostering, which is far different. He is worth rostering in all but the smallest leagues.

Regardless, depending on the rest of your lineup, you can still have a very solid team with Burleson as your WR2.

 

[AmosMoses]

In most leagues, Burleson isn't even worth rostering. Let's get serious here.

Fishing or poorly informed. You tell me.

If Burleson makes your starting lineup, then your team is in bad shape.

That's not the point you made, you said he wasn't worth rostering, which is far different. He is worth rostering in all but the smallest leagues.

I wouldn't roster anyone I wouldn't start.

 

[tenaka]

Burleson has a 1000 yard season

So does Derrick Mason but that doesn't mean I'd draft him ahead of Manningham.

Also, Masons situation is different, but people who watch football and understand it, know that.Do I really have to discuss the concept of what certain player situations mean to performance?

Eli Sucks, fact. The running game in NY seens to be pretty good. Manningham Plays Phillys corners twice.

Matty is freak, but I'm sure all you prisoners of the moment will say "can he stay healthy", if thats your comment your not as smart of a fantasy owner, so I should not even be having this discussion with you. However, no running game an elite amongst elite WR in CJ on the otherside, and an easier schedule...plus just a skillfully better player then Mario, like I said i love Mario as I'm a Meechigan fan.

But yup, lets use last year to predict a new year. If we go of last year, the the team that won the SB the previous year should always win it, but they dont, because thats how much last year matters to this year.

You keep saying its some sort of fact that Eli sucks, but that's hardly true. Especially for fantasy purposes. Sure, he throws picks. He also throws 4000+ yards, 25-30 tds and has only finished out of the top 13 fantasy QBs once; his rookie year. He gets people the ball.

Aint gonna lie there, but it just so happens the people getting the ball are wearing the other color jerseys.asnd for Fantasy purposes, Eli does suck, oh and in real life purposes too.

Would he even be in the top 20 QBs if you were starting a new team? on the cusp for me.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Eli Manning is not a top tier QB, but he's a good NFL quarterback. To completely dismiss him is ridiculous.

Is that all you got? Weaksauce

Anyways Eli's turnover by years....

04 - 10 in 9 games

05 - 19

06 - 20

07 - 27 (More TOs then total TDs(24))

08 - 12 (Thats it?)

09 - 22

10 - 30 (31 total TDs is great, but not when you almost turn it over just as much, just pathetic from a SB winning QB)

Now he played all 16 games after 04, but still not a guy I want on my team, however.....

Manningham should have a good season, but not as good as Burleson.

Like S. A. Smith said. "Tell me one player who has said they can't wait to play with Eli Manning?"

Its a fact, people do not rush to play with Eli or Coughlin. Its odd people refer to their SB title, as if they were the best team that year. They beat the best team, but it sure had to do with the defense and gum stuck to a helmet.

We're talking FFL not NFL. Wake up and smell the difference. A QB's turnover numbers only matter when it comes to how productive the WR is if it means they are no longer moving downfield and scoring. 4000/30 means you moved downfield and scored. WR production aplenty. No one is breaking down Houston's door to play there either, how did AJ and Foster do?

 

[AmosMoses]

26 man rosters, 10-team star 3 WR with a flex.

An established vet #2 with a young up-and-coming stud QB with a stud WR1 taking double teams? I'll gladly take Burleson as my WR 4/5 with good upside.

But guppie leagues must be nice.

It's easy to spot your error here.

 

[humpback]

Manningham & I think it's closer to 5 miles. These guys shouldn't even be in the same discussion.

If thats the case, your not the smartest owner.I love people who rank off last year, as opposed to predicting the coming year.

Manningham is not a world beater by any means, what has he done that Burleson hasnt? LOL, a mile or 5? comical?

Burleson has a 1000 yard season, does Manningham?

Burleson has two 9 TD catch seasons, does Manningham?

Whats funny is I love my mMchigan boy Manningham, I could just be reasonable. I love how players take different ranks once they are on your team.

Another thing, you all act like Manning can get it to Mario no problem. Remember Eli sux too. How many 20 pick seasons he have? And I predict another, but yup it Manningham by a mile.

I love when people let their kids get on here and talk football with dadies username.

Great talk.

Oof.

Oof? really? thats the concept of your comment? Sounds like you know sooooo much more about football than I.

I'd write more, but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't understand it. Just thought you saying "your not the smartest owner" to someone else is pretty ironic after reading that post.

 

[squistion]

In most leagues, Burleson isn't even worth rostering. Let's get serious here.

Fishing or poorly informed. You tell me.

If Burleson makes your starting lineup, then your team is in bad shape.

That's not the point you made, you said he wasn't worth rostering, which is far different. He is worth rostering in all but the smallest leagues.

I wouldn't roster anyone I wouldn't start.

So your starters and your bench players are of equal vallue and interchangeable? If that is the case I would like to see one of your rosters.

 

[Zal]

I love my Giants but i'm on the opinion that Manningham is a 3rd WR. The guy is a bonehead on the field at times. Check out most of his games. And they're usually 5 receptions or less.

I'll take Burleson over Manningham this season.

 

[Zal]

Burleson has a 1000 yard season

So does Derrick Mason but that doesn't mean I'd draft him ahead of Manningham.

Also, Masons situation is different, but people who watch football and understand it, know that.Do I really have to discuss the concept of what certain player situations mean to performance?

Eli Sucks, fact. The running game in NY seens to be pretty good. Manningham Plays Phillys corners twice.

Matty is freak, but I'm sure all you prisoners of the moment will say "can he stay healthy", if thats your comment your not as smart of a fantasy owner, so I should not even be having this discussion with you. However, no running game an elite amongst elite WR in CJ on the otherside, and an easier schedule...plus just a skillfully better player then Mario, like I said i love Mario as I'm a Meechigan fan.

But yup, lets use last year to predict a new year. If we go of last year, the the team that won the SB the previous year should always win it, but they dont, because thats how much last year matters to this year.

You keep saying its some sort of fact that Eli sucks, but that's hardly true. Especially for fantasy purposes. Sure, he throws picks. He also throws 4000+ yards, 25-30 tds and has only finished out of the top 13 fantasy QBs once; his rookie year. He gets people the ball.

Aint gonna lie there, but it just so happens the people getting the ball are wearing the other color jerseys.asnd for Fantasy purposes, Eli does suck, oh and in real life purposes too.

Would he even be in the top 20 QBs if you were starting a new team? on the cusp for me.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Eli Manning is not a top tier QB, but he's a good NFL quarterback. To completely dismiss him is ridiculous.

Is that all you got? Weaksauce

Anyways Eli's turnover by years....

04 - 10 in 9 games

05 - 19

06 - 20

07 - 27 (More TOs then total TDs(24))

08 - 12 (Thats it?)

09 - 22

10 - 30 (31 total TDs is great, but not when you almost turn it over just as much, just pathetic from a SB winning QB)

Now he played all 16 games after 04, but still not a guy I want on my team, however.....

Manningham should have a good season, but not as good as Burleson.

Like S. A. Smith said. "Tell me one player who has said they can't wait to play with Eli Manning?"

Its a fact, people do not rush to play with Eli or Coughlin. Its odd people refer to their SB title, as if they were the best team that year. They beat the best team, but it sure had to do with the defense and gum stuck to a helmet.

Tirey made a nice catch but that wasn't the game winning catch. Eli was able to make plays all through out that game. To discredit him in that instance is ridiculous. You can't take away his SB performance. The man came to play that night

 

[[scooter]]

Check out most of his games. And they're usually 5 receptions or less. I'll take Burleson over Manningham this season.

Who cares if Manningham had a lot of 5-catch games? All that matters is that he got 60 for the season as a part-time starter. Now he's a full-time starter.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I got Burleson dirt cheap in a few leagues this year, and I think the ROI is going to be tremendous. I do think Manningham is a better play, but I had other areas to address when it came to his ADP. People drafted Manningham as a #2, and for the price he better perform that way. Others drafted Burleson as their 6th WR, and in my opinion, WR3 is his floor.

I think Hakeem Nicks doesn't outperform adp. Nate Burleson drastically outperforms ADP. Manningham slightly outperforms ADP. Without Steve Smith and Boss in the fold, I have no clue how the NYG targets will go. I frankly wouldn't be surprised if Manningham has a better year than Nicks. Average Points per game after Steve Smith got hurt (weeks 10-17)Hakeem Nicks: 15.980Manningham: 15.988Average points per game after Steve Smith got hurt and Nicks/Manningham both playedManningham = 17.42 Nicks: 13.32I'm not using these numbers to prove that Manningham will outperform Nicks last year, as we know Nicks was hurting some of those weeks, but it's at least to prove that it will be more 1/1a than 1/2 split than people are believing based on the current ADPs.

I totally agree with the first post, and the 2nd post is probably the most informative and least opinionated of the thread.Im not surprised by those numbers with Mario&Nicks being identical in the first, and Mario better in the 2nd, but as you said, Nicks was banged up and Id use caution. With the knowledge going into this year that Eli lost his #2 and #4 options in the passing game without any additions, I see the Giants throwing less and running more. In 09, Bradshaw/Jacobs had 387 carries, last year they had 423 carries. With DJ Ware looking just about as good as them this year and finally healthy, alongside Eli putting the defense in precarious situations, I wouldnt be surprised if they run even more. Its 1 thing to let Eli have 550 attempts with his options last year, its another thing when all he really has is Nicks and Manningham. Another concern I have with Manningham is only 1 of his 9 TDs came from inside 25yds. When you are that big of a deep threat, your TDs arent as consistent (Just ask DJax who weent from 9 TDs down to 6 last year despite better QB play, Jennings only 4TDs in 2009). I still think Mario has a fine year, but with him being a legit 5th round pick in my drafts, Im not as high on his value there as I was a month ago.I left the thread last night excited to see a surprising 45 posts in this thread since, however 90% ended up being useless arguing. People saying Burleson is garbage and not worth rostering dont know what theyre talking about. In fact in my rankings, the only #2 WRs I have ahead of him are Dez, Mario, Collie, Julio, and Ochocinco (and with recent news, I dont think I could take Collie or Ocho), all of which have an ADP at least 6 rounds higher than Burleson. I can see an argument to have 3 or 4 other #2 WRs ahead of Burleson based on others opinion, but thats it. Burleson appears to be a Top 6 #2 WR in a Top 10 passing offense. Tons of value with him.

 

[mr roboto]

Kenny Powers knows things.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

In most leagues, Burleson isn't even worth rostering. Let's get serious here.

Fishing or poorly informed. You tell me.

If Burleson makes your starting lineup, then your team is in bad shape.

Now see this is an example of people twisting stuff to make their argument.In defense of Mr Roboto, You did not say starting, you said rostered, but do what you need to do to make yourself look like you know whats up.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

Burleson has a 1000 yard season

So does Derrick Mason but that doesn't mean I'd draft him ahead of Manningham.

Also, Masons situation is different, but people who watch football and understand it, know that.Do I really have to discuss the concept of what certain player situations mean to performance?

Eli Sucks, fact. The running game in NY seens to be pretty good. Manningham Plays Phillys corners twice.

Matty is freak, but I'm sure all you prisoners of the moment will say "can he stay healthy", if thats your comment your not as smart of a fantasy owner, so I should not even be having this discussion with you. However, no running game an elite amongst elite WR in CJ on the otherside, and an easier schedule...plus just a skillfully better player then Mario, like I said i love Mario as I'm a Meechigan fan.

But yup, lets use last year to predict a new year. If we go of last year, the the team that won the SB the previous year should always win it, but they dont, because thats how much last year matters to this year.

You keep saying its some sort of fact that Eli sucks, but that's hardly true. Especially for fantasy purposes. Sure, he throws picks. He also throws 4000+ yards, 25-30 tds and has only finished out of the top 13 fantasy QBs once; his rookie year. He gets people the ball.

Aint gonna lie there, but it just so happens the people getting the ball are wearing the other color jerseys.asnd for Fantasy purposes, Eli does suck, oh and in real life purposes too.

Would he even be in the top 20 QBs if you were starting a new team? on the cusp for me.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Eli Manning is not a top tier QB, but he's a good NFL quarterback. To completely dismiss him is ridiculous.

Is that all you got? Weaksauce

Anyways Eli's turnover by years....

04 - 10 in 9 games

05 - 19

06 - 20

07 - 27 (More TOs then total TDs(24))

08 - 12 (Thats it?)

09 - 22

10 - 30 (31 total TDs is great, but not when you almost turn it over just as much, just pathetic from a SB winning QB)

Now he played all 16 games after 04, but still not a guy I want on my team, however.....

Manningham should have a good season, but not as good as Burleson.

Like S. A. Smith said. "Tell me one player who has said they can't wait to play with Eli Manning?"

Its a fact, people do not rush to play with Eli or Coughlin. Its odd people refer to their SB title, as if they were the best team that year. They beat the best team, but it sure had to do with the defense and gum stuck to a helmet.

We're talking FFL not NFL. Wake up and smell the difference. A QB's turnover numbers only matter when it comes to how productive the WR is if it means they are no longer moving downfield and scoring. 4000/30 means you moved downfield and scored. WR production aplenty. No one is breaking down Houston's door to play there either, how did AJ and Foster do?

Do you even know what you were trying to say?

 

[zoonation]

JuSt CuZ is high comedy.

 

[Kenny Powers]

In most leagues, Burleson isn't even worth rostering. Let's get serious here.

Fishing or poorly informed. You tell me.

If Burleson makes your starting lineup, then your team is in bad shape.

That's not the point you made, you said he wasn't worth rostering, which is far different. He is worth rostering in all but the smallest leagues.

Regardless, depending on the rest of your lineup, you can still have a very solid team with Burleson as your WR2.

I schmucked up by overreacting and taking Winslow instead of Mike Thomas who I thought could drop to my next pick, but overall I think Im pretty solid with Burleson possibly becoming my WR2 (12 teams, non-PPR) :QB-StaffordRB-MendenhallRB-FelixWR-MegatronWR-Burleson?RB/WR-DeAngeloRB/WR-IngramTE-WinslowK-HeneryD-Desmond BishopDB- Eric BerryDL- Trent ColeBench: Hightower, Sims-Walker, Evans, Eli, Gronk, Kendricks, Deji Karim, Delone Carter, Antonio Brown

 

[joffer]

JuSt CuZ is high comedy.

every time i "view it anyway" i remember this

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

26 man rosters, 10-team star 3 WR with a flex.

An established vet #2 with a young up-and-coming stud QB with a stud WR1 taking double teams? I'll gladly take Burleson as my WR 4/5 with good upside.

But guppie leagues must be nice.

It's easy to spot your error here.

You make me LOL at you.. Your just that good. Gangsta

 

[TheFanatic]

JuSt CuZ is high comedy.

He needs to grow up or take a vacation or both.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

JuSt CuZ is high comedy.

He needs to grow up or take a vacation or both.

Or you guys need to lighten up.But i would love a vacation. Anytime someone talks the truth, its comedy. Oh and Eli dont stink, he dont just play bad....He sucks something awful.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

JuSt CuZ is high comedy.

'Hucks alias? Or his younger brother?

 

[AmosMoses]

26 man rosters, 10-team star 3 WR with a flex.

An established vet #2 with a young up-and-coming stud QB with a stud WR1 taking double teams? I'll gladly take Burleson as my WR 4/5 with good upside.

But guppie leagues must be nice.

It's easy to spot your error here.

You make me LOL at you.. Your just that good. Gangsta

nice sig

 

[adrenaline]

Manningham & I think it's closer to 5 miles. These guys shouldn't even be in the same discussion.

If thats the case, your not the smartest owner.I love people who rank off last year, as opposed to predicting the coming year.Manningham is not a world beater by any means, what has he done that Burleson hasnt? LOL, a mile or 5? comical?Burleson has a 1000 yard season, does Manningham?Burleson has two 9 TD catch seasons, does Manningham?Whats funny is I love my mMchigan boy Manningham, I could just be reasonable. I love how players take different ranks once they are on your team.Another thing, you all act like Manning can get it to Mario no problem. Remember Eli sux too. How many 20 pick seasons he have? And I predict another, but yup it Manningham by a mile. I love when people let their kids get on here and talk football with dadies username.Great talk.

Care to put your money where your smart mouth is?

 

[shnikies]

Manningham & I think it's closer to 5 miles. These guys shouldn't even be in the same discussion.

If thats the case, your not the smartest owner.I love people who rank off last year, as opposed to predicting the coming year.Manningham is not a world beater by any means, what has he done that Burleson hasnt? LOL, a mile or 5? comical?Burleson has a 1000 yard season, does Manningham?Burleson has two 9 TD catch seasons, does Manningham?Whats funny is I love my mMchigan boy Manningham, I could just be reasonable. I love how players take different ranks once they are on your team.Another thing, you all act like Manning can get it to Mario no problem. Remember Eli sux too. How many 20 pick seasons he have? And I predict another, but yup it Manningham by a mile. I love when people let their kids get on here and talk football with dadies username.Great talk.

Care to put your money where your smart mouth is?

I'm not the one you were offering the bet to but since you're a Packers fan and I'm a Bears fan I feel it's appropriate that we do a sig bet. Winner gets 25 words in the other person's board sig until opening day 2012. Since Manningham's non-ppr ADP is currently WR19 and Burleson's is WR41 and Colston finished at WR19 last year with 144 points and Anthony Armstrong finished at WR41 with 105 points I'm willing to take Burleson and 25 points. Do you accept my bet?

 

[Kenny Powers]

Manningham & I think it's closer to 5 miles. These guys shouldn't even be in the same discussion.

If thats the case, your not the smartest owner.I love people who rank off last year, as opposed to predicting the coming year.Manningham is not a world beater by any means, what has he done that Burleson hasnt? LOL, a mile or 5? comical?Burleson has a 1000 yard season, does Manningham?Burleson has two 9 TD catch seasons, does Manningham?Whats funny is I love my mMchigan boy Manningham, I could just be reasonable. I love how players take different ranks once they are on your team.Another thing, you all act like Manning can get it to Mario no problem. Remember Eli sux too. How many 20 pick seasons he have? And I predict another, but yup it Manningham by a mile. I love when people let their kids get on here and talk football with dadies username.Great talk.

Care to put your money where your smart mouth is?

I'm not the one you were offering the bet to but since you're a Packers fan and I'm a Bears fan I feel it's appropriate that we do a sig bet. Winner gets 25 words in the other person's board sig until opening day 2012. Since Manningham's non-ppr ADP is currently WR19 and Burleson's is WR41 and Colston finished at WR19 last year with 144 points and Anthony Armstrong finished at WR41 with 105 points I'm willing to take Burleson and 25 points. Do you accept my bet?

Interesting enough I have Mario 36pts ahead of Burleson and last year those slots had a 39pt differential....I think a lot of people will take your bet at 25pts. You should get 32pts or 2ppg, IMO.

 

[adrenaline]

Manningham & I think it's closer to 5 miles. These guys shouldn't even be in the same discussion.

If thats the case, your not the smartest owner.I love people who rank off last year, as opposed to predicting the coming year.Manningham is not a world beater by any means, what has he done that Burleson hasnt? LOL, a mile or 5? comical?Burleson has a 1000 yard season, does Manningham?Burleson has two 9 TD catch seasons, does Manningham?Whats funny is I love my mMchigan boy Manningham, I could just be reasonable. I love how players take different ranks once they are on your team.Another thing, you all act like Manning can get it to Mario no problem. Remember Eli sux too. How many 20 pick seasons he have? And I predict another, but yup it Manningham by a mile. I love when people let their kids get on here and talk football with dadies username.Great talk.

Care to put your money where your smart mouth is?

I'm not the one you were offering the bet to but since you're a Packers fan and I'm a Bears fan I feel it's appropriate that we do a sig bet. Winner gets 25 words in the other person's board sig until opening day 2012. Since Manningham's non-ppr ADP is currently WR19 and Burleson's is WR41 and Colston finished at WR19 last year with 144 points and Anthony Armstrong finished at WR41 with 105 points I'm willing to take Burleson and 25 points. Do you accept my bet?

I'm interested at $25.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'll jump in on the "apples vs. oranges" camp.

Burleson MIGHT be a viable WR3/flex if things pan out...and not an every week option. Manningham will be an every week starter, even in 2WR leagues, barring injury.

 

[cst2006]

I love people who rank off last year, as opposed to predicting the coming year.

(Says the guy who is about to use 5 yr old stats to prove his point)

Manningham is not a world beater by any means, what has he done that Burleson hasnt? LOL, a mile or 5? comical?

Burleson has a 1000 yard season, does Manningham?

Didn't know we get points this year for 2004?

Burleson has two 9 TD catch seasons, does Manningham?

Again, in '04 and '07, but what kinda fool ranks based on past performance, right?I like Burleson this season and think he is a solid WR3 with upside, but Manningham's upside is WR1, which Burleson just does not have a chance at sniffing. Better value, maybe, but better #2? Manningham hands down.

 

[JuSt CuZ]

I love people who rank off last year, as opposed to predicting the coming year.

(Says the guy who is about to use 5 yr old stats to prove his point)

Manningham is not a world beater by any means, what has he done that Burleson hasnt? LOL, a mile or 5? comical?

Burleson has a 1000 yard season, does Manningham?

Didn't know we get points this year for 2004?

Burleson has two 9 TD catch seasons, does Manningham?

Again, in '04 and '07, but what kinda fool ranks based on past performance, right?I like Burleson this season and think he is a solid WR3 with upside, but Manningham's upside is WR1, which Burleson just does not have a chance at sniffing. Better value, maybe, but better #2? Manningham hands down.

They will both be on the field the same amount of time, how is it not possible Burleson will not sniff Manningham? Stafford is a better QB than Eli, argue with me all you want, you wont change my mind. You cant turn the ball over that much and be called a good QB. Also, Detroit will have to pass more, Calvin will take more of the double teams then Nicks would. We are not talking NFL talent or better WR, we are talking a better producing fantasy WR. People forget Burleson is a darn good WR who had a 3rd rate QB last year, lol, but hey...you have your opinion, and I have mine.