Who is next year's Julius Thomas/Cameron Jordan (1 Viewer)

[EBF]

Yea, and Onobun tested better than both of them.

I liked Kelce okay last year, but going back and looking at his clips again, I am not that optimistic.

Pitta should be good value next year if he comes back to Baltimore. Eifert has a good chance to take a big step forward IMO. Year two is typically where you see the breakout with TEs who are destined for big things. If you're a believer in Ertz, he'd make sense from that perspective too.

 

[zamboni]

I like the Ertz call.

Very highly regarded coming out of college, learning the ropes in Kelly's system now, Maclin may be gone next year and Ertz could be asked to step up as a playmaker.

 

[Long Ball Larry]

good thread.

. for future tracking.

 

[battlebaby]

Travis Kelce next year in KC. Alex Smith loves his TE. Fasano shouldn't be starting at this point in his career and Kelce was the first pick in the 3rd round. He's got the talent to produce when he gets the opportunity.

I've heard a lot of people hyping up Kelce since the draft, but I just don't see it. Andy Reid has never really relied on a TE in his offense. Alex Smith loved Vernon Davis because Davis is a physical freak and Jim Harbaugh uses his TEs a lot. With Kelce, you're looking at a ceiling of 2009 Brent Celek.

Kelce tested better than Gronkowski.

TE production is really dependent upon offensive scheme. People tabbed Jordan Cameron as a breakout candidate this year because he was getting Norv Turner as his OC...and Turner has an established track record of using his TEs. Andy Reid has a really consistent history of not using the TE in the passing game...and, if you want to look at his ability to evaluate skill-position talent, has only really showed success at drafting RBs and developing QBs. I may be biased as a lifelong Eagles fan, but in all the years that he was in Philly, I can't recall a time when Andy really "nailed it" on a TE/WR prospect.

 

[BroadwayG]

fred davis

will be interesting to see where he lands.

I personally don't see it. FA TE's hardly ever make a big impact their first year in a new system. Possibility, but I like almost every other name mentioned ahead of him.

Terpmann meet Martellus bennett, Black Unicorn meet Terpmann.

 

[fCheeze]

Bostick

 

[cstu]

Yea, and Onobun tested better than both of them.

I liked Kelce okay last year, but going back and looking at his clips again, I am not that optimistic.

Pitta should be good value next year if he comes back to Baltimore. Eifert has a good chance to take a big step forward IMO. Year two is typically where you see the breakout with TEs who are destined for big things. If you're a believer in Ertz, he'd make sense from that perspective too.

Kelce averaged 16 YPC and scored 8 TD's last year. He's a great blocker and I don't think he's tapped his potential as a receiver yet.

 

[Terpman22]

fred davis

will be interesting to see where he lands.

I personally don't see it. FA TE's hardly ever make a big impact their first year in a new system. Possibility, but I like almost every other name mentioned ahead of him.

Terpmann meet Martellus bennett, Black Unicorn meet Terpmann.

although, I did say "hardly", somehow I overlooked him. That said. Davis sucks. LOL. I won't be buying him before the season ends at least...

Edit: Bennett is currently TE14 in most of my leagues with 11.9 PPG average. Not too bad, but not great. #11TE in total points.

 

[Drop]

Here is an old thread on TEs that might be insightful: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=595123&hl=

I posted about my theory on elite TEs in that thread and Julius Thomas fits the criteria, Jordan Cameron doesn't. Bostick is definitely a breakout candidate.

 

[buddhacwru]

Dwayne Allen - The best all around TE on Indy's roster and once he's back will relegate Fleener to the bench. Upside is tremendous playing with a young stud QB.

Won't Fleener still steal targets from Dwayne Allen ala a TEBC situation?

 

[battlebaby]

Dwayne Allen - The best all around TE on Indy's roster and once he's back will relegate Fleener to the bench. Upside is tremendous playing with a young stud QB.

Won't Fleener still steal targets from Dwayne Allen ala a TEBC situation?

Yes and no. Allen would have a higher ceiling if he was the only pass-catching TE that IND used, but Pep Hamilton's offense at Stanford in the year he had Luck allowed for multiple productive TEs (In 2011: Fleener - 34 rec, 667 yds, 10 TD / Ertz - 27 rec, 346 yds, 4 TD / Toilolo - 25 rec, 343 yds, 6 TD). Combine Ertz's and Toilolo's stats and you've got 2 quality TE1s there.

 

[Bri]

Brandon Pettigrew- injury last year and just plain less this year but his 83-777 in year three made him look like he had a golden future. Since he is a very good blocker, he should command a decent amount of $ in which a team has to commit to him some.

I thought he's capable of more big plays, maybe I'm wrong.

He's got a reliability that makes him seem so much more appealing than guys like Jared Cook.

If he's Tony G's replacement or in some situation where the TE got plenty of usage, I think he can repeat the high catch totals if not the yardage. His 7,8,9,11 catch games are eye-catching.

 

[bonesman]

Ladarious Green is

for various reasons

 

[jbz]

I like the Amaro call for dynasty. Advanced receiver already and I doubt will be even used to block much by the team that drafts him. Rookie TEs don't tend to blow up though right? I think Keith Jackson had a big year (considering TEs weren't used like they are now) and Gronk had an impact with 10 TDs (low yardage though)

 

[battlebaby]

I like the Amaro call for dynasty. Advanced receiver already and I doubt will be even used to block much by the team that drafts him. Rookie TEs don't tend to blow up though right? I think Keith Jackson had a big year (considering TEs weren't used like they are now) and Gronk had an impact with 10 TDs (low yardage though)

Typically you'll see signs of future potential in the 1st year, but it's inconsistent enough that they're not usable for fantasy yet. With that in mind, especially since Pettigrew is a free agent next year, Joseph Fauria may be someone to keep on your radar. He's already proven that he's a great redzone threat...if DET opts to use him to replace Pettigrew next year, there's breakout potential there.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

fred davis

will be interesting to see where he lands.

I personally don't see it. FA TE's hardly ever make a big impact their first year in a new system. Possibility, but I like almost every other name mentioned ahead of him.

Terpmann meet Martellus bennett, Black Unicorn meet Terpmann.

although, I did say "hardly", somehow I overlooked him. That said. Davis sucks. LOL. I won't be buying him before the season ends at least...

Edit: Bennett is currently TE14 in most of my leagues with 11.9 PPG average. Not too bad, but not great. #11TE in total points.

yeah Bennett seems hardly startable.

 

[3nOut]

not out of nowhere, but Eifert.

I really like Eifert's talent but won't he still be playing in a timeshare?

 

[loose circuits]

If the Dolphins can upgrade their oline, I'll say Charles Clay.

Quality hands and speed.

he's TE8 right now in my PPR league? Isn't he one of the breakouts of this year already?

 

[fantasycurse42]

Shhhhhhh, come closer....

Jared Cooke

 

[loose circuits]

Jordan Reed. I think you need to look for teams with perhaps one good other passing option where a TE can ascend to fill that void. Thomas is a rare scenario due to the huge size of the pie.

TE9 right now in my PPR league. How would next year qualify as a breakout?

 

[loose circuits]

Not necessarily endorsing all these but

Travis Kelce

Dwayne Allen

Ladarius Green

Luke Willson

Chris Gragg

Levine Toilolo

Zach Sudfeld

this is a decent listA few additions:

I'd add Fauria to the list. Pettigrew is on his way out and Fauria will have an off-season to work on his blocking. He's already showed the receiving skills, just needs to get on the field by working on the other part of his game.

Rivera seems to be developing nicely. Unless Ausberry comes back and takes the job which could happen.

What about Matt Furstenburg? Some buzz about him in Baltimore camp this year and Dickson/Pitta are both free agents. Clark will be gone as well.

 

[dickey moe]

Vance McDonald in SF if Vernon Davis and the franchise part ways.

 

[discountdoublecheck]

I lost A. Hernandez and Finley in a deep dynasty. I did a lot of research and picked up J. Thomas and Jordan Cameron in the off season. Thinking one of them would hit it big if things broke their way. The two players with the highest ceiling if things break their way are

Brandon Bostick and Ladarius Green. Both have

flashed enough to get their coaches/QBs

excited. They just have to learn how to block well enough to stay on the field.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

If the Dolphins can upgrade their oline, I'll say Charles Clay.

Quality hands and speed.

he's TE8 right now in my PPR league? Isn't he one of the breakouts of this year already?

Maybe, but I don't see a Charles Clay hype train thread around here. My guess is you'd have to throw in a rookie 1st plus Clay to touch Jordan Reed.

Is he valued as a TE1?

 

[battlebaby]

Not necessarily endorsing all these but

Travis Kelce

Dwayne Allen

Ladarius Green

Luke Willson

Chris Gragg

Levine Toilolo

Zach Sudfeld

this is a decent listA few additions:

I'd add Fauria to the list. Pettigrew is on his way out and Fauria will have an off-season to work on his blocking. He's already showed the receiving skills, just needs to get on the field by working on the other part of his game.

Rivera seems to be developing nicely. Unless Ausberry comes back and takes the job which could happen.

What about Matt Furstenburg? Some buzz about him in Baltimore camp this year and Dickson/Pitta are both free agents. Clark will be gone as well.

Dickson will be gone, but it seems likely that BAL will resign Pitta. He'll come at a discount because of his injury this year (unless he comes back and lights it up, which is unlikely) and Flacco clearly misses having him on the field.

 

[NattyDread]

Ladarius Green

 

[JohnnyU]

Ladarius Green

Will he play every down? Because he's so thin and I doubt he can block a lick.

 

[msudaisy26]

Ladarius Green

Will he play every down? Because he's so thin and I doubt he can block a lick.

I thought I read something about Gates being one of the worst blockers too when he first came into the league.

 

[Terpman22]

Man. I need to pick up some of these guys, all FA's in a shallow roster dynasty (22)

Pettigrew

Fauria

Davis

Bostick

Green

Allen

Kelce

Rivera

Problem is, I am in the midst of a playoff run, so I can't afford to drop anyone at the moment.

 

[menobrown]

Dwayne Allen - The best all around TE on Indy's roster and once he's back will relegate Fleener to the bench. Upside is tremendous playing with a young stud QB.

Won't Fleener still steal targets from Dwayne Allen ala a TEBC situation?

Yes and no. Allen would have a higher ceiling if he was the only pass-catching TE that IND used, but Pep Hamilton's offense at Stanford in the year he had Luck allowed for multiple productive TEs (In 2011: Fleener - 34 rec, 667 yds, 10 TD / Ertz - 27 rec, 346 yds, 4 TD / Toilolo - 25 rec, 343 yds, 6 TD). Combine Ertz's and Toilolo's stats and you've got 2 quality TE1s there.

Allen won't be relegating Fleener to the bench. They will simply run more of the two TE system they drafted both of these guys to run.

People seem to get to caught up on Fleener/Allen cancelling each other out. Target monster Reggie Wayne was always a bigger factor in their production than the presence of the other TE. I think they both return as options #3 and #4 in the passing game next year but both a fair bit off from Wayne/Hilton so more solid seasons than breakout types.

 

[menobrown]

Ladarius Green

Will he play every down? Because he's so thin and I doubt he can block a lick.

Looks and blocks very similar to Julius Thomas.

 

[menobrown]

I lost A. Hernandez and Finley in a deep dynasty. I did a lot of research and picked up J. Thomas and Jordan Cameron in the off season. Thinking one of them would hit it big if things broke their way. The two players with the highest ceiling if things break their way are

Brandon Bostick and Ladarius Green. Both have

flashed enough to get their coaches/QBs

excited. They just have to learn how to block well enough to stay on the field.

I think it's to early to assume Finley is done. I don't think it's a given either way but after researching various medical opinions I lean on him returning.

I base this mainly on two opinions. One from a professor at Northwestern who is also a surgeon, an expert in the field and a Packers fan. He said way back in late October that the only way Finley would probably ever be able to play again was if he DID get surgery. So I know some think Finley's agent was just doing "agent talk" when he said Finley got the operation to he could continue to play but this actually jives with that surgeon/professor's information. This is a key distinction as most people seemed to assume his surgery ended his career when instead it might have been the only option to continue it.

Than I tried to research the difference in Manning's surgery vs Finley. That was difficult since we don't know the exact location of Finley's surgery since it was not officially disclosed but various reports suggest it was a bit higher.

Still I found this from someone who knows more about it than me:

Dr. Neel Anand, a world-renowned spine specialist and Director of Spinal Trauma at the Cedars-Sinai Spine Center in Los Angeles, California, weighed in on the comparison of Finley to Manning.

"This surgery is no different than what Peyton Manning had," Anand said. "He should make a full recovery and be able to play provided that there are no neurological sequelae." The term "sequelae" refers to a secondary complication of the procedure—possible, but unlikely.

 

[pghrob]

Vance McDonald in SF if Vernon Davis and the franchise part ways.

This. I have McDonald on watch list. Pass catching TE from Rice. 49ers moved up in 2nd round to draft him.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Vance McDonald in SF if Vernon Davis and the franchise part ways.

This. I have McDonald on watch list. Pass catching TE from Rice. 49ers moved up in 2nd round to draft him.

Hasn't been impressive with the opportunities he has gotten this year.

 

[menobrown]

Vance McDonald in SF if Vernon Davis and the franchise part ways.

This. I have McDonald on watch list. Pass catching TE from Rice. 49ers moved up in 2nd round to draft him.

Why would the 49'ers part ways with Vernon? His contract is a fairly manageable $4.5-4.7 million a year and he signed through the end of the 2015 season. I do like Mcdonald but that could be a mighty long wait.

Speaking of teams parting ways with players I'm interested in what the Texans decide to do this off season. Granted Garret Graham has not taken the league by storm since Daniels went down but he's had some big games and I think as an every week starter in the right system could be a low end TE1. To me Daniels is a fading/injury prone player who reminds me a great deal of Dallas Clark at the end of his road with the Colts. Graham is a FA and Daniels will be entering last year of contract that pays him slightly over $4million. Not sure they can keep both so and I think it's a decent chance they keep the younger guy in Graham and cut Daniels.

 

[loose circuits]

Vance McDonald in SF if Vernon Davis and the franchise part ways.

This. I have McDonald on watch list. Pass catching TE from Rice. 49ers moved up in 2nd round to draft him.

Why would the 49'ers part ways with Vernon? His contract is a fairly manageable $4.5-4.7 million a year and he signed through the end of the 2015 season. I do like Mcdonald but that could be a mighty long wait.

Speaking of teams parting ways with players I'm interested in what the Texans decide to do this off season. Granted Garret Graham has not taken the league by storm since Daniels went down but he's had some big games and I think as an every week starter in the right system could be a low end TE1. To me Daniels is a fading/injury prone player who reminds me a great deal of Dallas Clark at the end of his road with the Colts. Graham is a FA and Daniels will be entering last year of contract that pays him slightly over $4million. Not sure they can keep both so and I think it's a decent chance they keep the younger guy in Graham and cut Daniels.

they like griffen, the guy they drafted as well, don't they?

 

[Eminence]

Green and Eifert jump out to me.

 

[djjosee]

No love for Tim Wright? Love those TE/WR types ...

 

[cstu]

Man. I need to pick up some of these guys, all FA's in a shallow roster dynasty (22)

Pettigrew

Fauria

Davis

Bostick

Green

Allen

Kelce

Rivera

Problem is, I am in the midst of a playoff run, so I can't afford to drop anyone at the moment.

IMO Green should not be on waivers. I would find a way to roster him.

 

[3nOut]

Even though he is not an unknown and has already 'broken out', I think Pitta should be on everyone's list and will put up very good numbers again next year.

 

[Max Power]

I'm still holding Housler as the next breakout star. Almost looks like the Cards are using him now!