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Who is the Next Wes Welker? (1 Viewer)

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I was just doing some digging today on great PPR slot receiver candidates that can get to the 90-100 REC range in the next couple years. Just to start the conversation, my short list to watch includes Eddie Royal, Jordan Shipley, Dexter McCluster and Mike Thomas. Percy Harvin doesn't make for me because he has already busted out to some extent (Royal is different to me because he burst on the scene in 2008, but everyone include his relatives forgot about him after 2009).

 
My wife was in Vegas this past week and her air conditioning broke down. A guy came to fix it and had to hang out to make sure it was working well. Long story short, he brought up his step son who is a WR at a local high school there (Sophomore). Apparently, this unassuming white kid, can dunk and is already being recruited by "USC, BC and some school in Texas"...my guess is Texas Tech. BTW, the kid is only 5'7...

I am not sure whether he was trying to get into my wife's pants or just talking about his life, but either way, I am intrigued.

 
Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.

 
I can't wait to see how McCluster is gonna be used. I think in a couple years we will be asking who the next Dexter McCluster is.

 
Not sure, but there is probably a family somewhere out there with the last name Welker who likes the name Wes/Wesley.

 
My wife was in Vegas this past week and her air conditioning broke down. A guy came to fix it and had to hang out to make sure it was working well. Long story short, he brought up his step son who is a WR at a local high school there (Sophomore). Apparently, this unassuming white kid, can dunk and is already being recruited by "USC, BC and some school in Texas"...my guess is Texas Tech. BTW, the kid is only 5'7...

I am not sure whether he was trying to get into my wife's pants or just talking about his life, but either way, I am intrigued.
Gee, you'd at least hope that a stepfather would know which major D1 program was vying for the attention of his son for the next 4 years. Sounds like this a/c guy might be fibbing a little. But who knows I guess...
 
I don't know that we can count on anyone having three 110+ catch seasons in a row anytime soon, but I do think that Johnny Knox could be successful in this mold, although he's getting to the point where he'll be overvalued soon.

 
Austin Collie. I also like Sammie Stroughter, but he won't get near as many attempts as Welker in Tampa.

 
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In one of my ppr leagues, I am placing my hopes on Steve Smith (NYG), Austin Collie, Jordan Shipley, Golden Tate and Brian Robiske.

 
Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.
This. Douglas may have been a big factor even without the Jenkins injury. With Jenkins out, Douglas will shine. The downside is that Jenkins' injury will have everyone looking at Douglas now.J
 
My wife was in Vegas this past week and her air conditioning broke down. A guy came to fix it and had to hang out to make sure it was working well. Long story short, he brought up his step son who is a WR at a local high school there (Sophomore). Apparently, this unassuming white kid, can dunk and is already being recruited by "USC, BC and some school in Texas"...my guess is Texas Tech. BTW, the kid is only 5'7...

I am not sure whether he was trying to get into my wife's pants or just talking about his life, but either way, I am intrigued.
This sounds like the begining of every "Pron" movie i've ever seen......sorry to break it to you hoss.
 
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Collie and M Thomas fit the profile of a next "great ppr slot receivers". Gilyard, A Roberts and Shipley have the best potential of this rookie class.

 
Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.
This. Douglas may have been a big factor even without the Jenkins injury. With Jenkins out, Douglas will shine. The downside is that Jenkins' injury will have everyone looking at Douglas now.J
yep. last summer the Falcons were grooming Douglas for the slot role in the mold of Welker until his injury
 
Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.
This. Douglas may have been a big factor even without the Jenkins injury. With Jenkins out, Douglas will shine. The downside is that Jenkins' injury will have everyone looking at Douglas now.J
yep. last summer the Falcons were grooming Douglas for the slot role in the mold of Welker until his injury
Hi birdfan. I see you're a Falcons fan. Can you elaborate on how you see Douglas performing? And how Jenkins fits in assuming he returns healthy in 4-6 weeks?J
 
Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.
This. Douglas may have been a big factor even without the Jenkins injury. With Jenkins out, Douglas will shine. The downside is that Jenkins' injury will have everyone looking at Douglas now.J
yep. last summer the Falcons were grooming Douglas for the slot role in the mold of Welker until his injury
Hi birdfan. I see you're a Falcons fan. Can you elaborate on how you see Douglas performing? And how Jenkins fits in assuming he returns healthy in 4-6 weeks?J
I think time will tell soon, but I had a feeling Mularkey had Douglas pegged in the slot and in Welker underneath mold. Finneran and Jenkins are premier down-field blockers in this offense and help the running game more than most observers have given credit. So I think newcomer Kerry Meir and Finneran split out (with White on the other side unless they run trips together in a bunch formation) without Jenkins while he is out, and it is a battle of Jenkins holding off Meir not Douglas for the wideout spot unless Douglas all of a sudden turns in Miles Austin
 
I can't wait to see how McCluster is gonna be used. I think in a couple years we will be asking who the next Dexter McCluster is.
I'm the closest possible distance with my restraining order with McCluster and this kind of talk just makes it worse. :thumbup:
 
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If either Hester or DA (or god forbid J. Iglacias) can play well enough to keep D's honest, and Forte is effective; I think (in PPR at least) Johnny Knox could - at least this year. If Martz has to follow Lovie out the door after a rough season, I have no clue.

 
Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.
This. Douglas may have been a big factor even without the Jenkins injury. With Jenkins out, Douglas will shine. The downside is that Jenkins' injury will have everyone looking at Douglas now.J
I wonder aloud how much production on a run first team (with a top WR on the outside) there will be from a slot guy when the TE is Tony Gonzalez. Off the top of my head, I can't remember a team with a top tight end and a top slot guy on the same team. I suspect Gonazlez will get his, but I don't see Douglas putting up anything near Welker like numbers in the same season.
 
welker is/was a pretty rediculously underrated athlete. quick and shifty dont do him justice. he was always elite. ofc he has absurd hands too. then belichek tailors a perfect role for him.

so i dont really think there will be another wes welker unless/until wes welker gets 100%.

 
Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.
This. Douglas may have been a big factor even without the Jenkins injury. With Jenkins out, Douglas will shine. The downside is that Jenkins' injury will have everyone looking at Douglas now.J
I wonder aloud how much production on a run first team (with a top WR on the outside) there will be from a slot guy when the TE is Tony Gonzalez. Off the top of my head, I can't remember a team with a top tight end and a top slot guy on the same team. I suspect Gonazlez will get his, but I don't see Douglas putting up anything near Welker like numbers in the same season.
^His only hope for fantasy is to beat out Jenkins for the #2 spot, which could happen...but he's not going to go nuts as the WR3 with Gonzo there.
 
Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.
This. Douglas may have been a big factor even without the Jenkins injury. With Jenkins out, Douglas will shine. The downside is that Jenkins' injury will have everyone looking at Douglas now.J
I wonder aloud how much production on a run first team (with a top WR on the outside) there will be from a slot guy when the TE is Tony Gonzalez. Off the top of my head, I can't remember a team with a top tight end and a top slot guy on the same team. I suspect Gonazlez will get his, but I don't see Douglas putting up anything near Welker like numbers in the same season.
^His only hope for fantasy is to beat out Jenkins for the #2 spot, which could happen...but he's not going to go nuts as the WR3 with Gonzo there.
Sure Douglas won't approach Welker this year, but the OP said the next "couple of years", and I think that Douglas fits that.
 
The next Wes Welker is Wes Welker. He's the right player in the right system with the right personnel surrounding him at all times. NFL teams love to copycat but they wind up with a cheap knockoff that can't duplicate the real thing. Fantasy owners searching for the next Wes Welker will be equally frustrated.

 
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Harry Douglas. The offense isn't exactly pass-happy, but they've talked about giving Turner less carries and Douglas has the skill set to be the type of guy you're talking about.
This. Douglas may have been a big factor even without the Jenkins injury. With Jenkins out, Douglas will shine. The downside is that Jenkins' injury will have everyone looking at Douglas now.J
I wonder aloud how much production on a run first team (with a top WR on the outside) there will be from a slot guy when the TE is Tony Gonzalez. Off the top of my head, I can't remember a team with a top tight end and a top slot guy on the same team. I suspect Gonazlez will get his, but I don't see Douglas putting up anything near Welker like numbers in the same season.
agreed. Mularkey and the Falcons are interested in winning not putting up fantasy numbers for individual players. The goal of course is to keep the D thinking....
 
fdctrumpet said:
I was just doing some digging today on great PPR slot receiver candidates that can get to the 90-100 REC range in the next couple years. Just to start the conversation, my short list to watch includes Eddie Royal, Jordan Shipley, Dexter McCluster and Mike Thomas. Percy Harvin doesn't make for me because he has already busted out to some extent (Royal is different to me because he burst on the scene in 2008, but everyone include his relatives forgot about him after 2009).
I don't think there is one...at least not that you can reliably predict. There just aren't that many schemes that do that.What? Is Welker the first lightning quick guy to ever play the slot? Of course not. So why him and not others? Are there other quick guys are in schemes that will target the slot as much as NE does? I don't see them right now. But this is a copycat league so...I'm not diminishing Welker at all. But it's all about talent + opportunity. I think Welker is in a pretty unique situation.
 
In order to have another Welker, you need another Moss. And he is one of a kind... :goodposting:

Roddy may be close down in Atlanta, and maybe Douglas DOES take that role in a couple years once Tony is gone and Turner is getting older. But it is not exactly the easiest task in football to get 2 receivers of the talent levels of Moss and Welker.

 
A couple of rookies mentioned in here are Shipley and McCluster.

I already have McCluster ranked pretty highly, but I keep pushing Shipley up my rookie draft board. How many of you would draft him ahead of a guy like Golden Tate or Arellious Benn? I have him right behind them, but I keep thinking he will be a better fantasy scorer than both of them in a couple of years.

 
Austin Collie. I also like Sammie Stroughter, but he won't get near as many attempts as Welker in Tampa.
:shrug: Assuming the Bucs can hit on Mike Williams or Benn to be a reliable #1 it shoulf free things up for Stroughter on short routes. Not to mention we are banking on a 2nd year QB. :fingercrossed:

 
Austin Collie. I also like Sammie Stroughter, but he won't get near as many attempts as Welker in Tampa.
:shrug: Assuming the Bucs can hit on Mike Williams or Benn to be a reliable #1 it shoulf free things up for Stroughter on short routes. Not to mention we are banking on a 2nd year QB. :fingercrossed:
there should be plenty of attempts as well since the defense is still a work in progress...
 
I have to give this thread major props on the basis that it's not flooded with a bunch of white guys for answers. I've grown tiresome of broadcasters that equate every white WR to Wes Welker. For some reason it only works for white wideouts, I mean, I totally understand if there is a black punter who might be the "Next Reggie Roby."

 
I have to give this thread major props on the basis that it's not flooded with a bunch of white guys for answers. I've grown tiresome of broadcasters that equate every white WR to Wes Welker. For some reason it only works for white wideouts, I mean, I totally understand if there is a black punter who might be the "Next Reggie Roby."
Reminds me of not being able to watch/listen to a draft expert without hearing Toby Gerhart compared to Mike Alstott (FBG did a good job of avoiding this). I guess it's only natural, and I assume (or hope) that broadcasters don't deliberately do that.
 
Julian Edelman. Their resemblance on the field is amazing. Edelman is going to be a stud (in time).
It's like welker gave birth to another him.... If, and it's a pretty big if, Edelman can fine-tune his game and if he doesn't turn into the next Kevin Faulk, look for him to get 100~ catches or so once and if welker ever leaves or when he retires
 
My wife was in Vegas this past week and her air conditioning broke down. A guy came to fix it and had to hang out to make sure it was working well. Long story short, he brought up his step son who is a WR at a local high school there (Sophomore). Apparently, this unassuming white kid, can dunk and is already being recruited by "USC, BC and some school in Texas"...my guess is Texas Tech. BTW, the kid is only 5'7...

I am not sure whether he was trying to get into my wife's pants or just talking about his life, but either way, I am intrigued.
Gee, you'd at least hope that a stepfather would know which major D1 program was vying for the attention of his son for the next 4 years. Sounds like this a/c guy might be fibbing a little. But who knows I guess...
He knew...that was just my wife's recount of the story.
 
Davone Bess.
I think this is the correct answer...guy is an afterthought this year and has 130 receptions in two years. I want to say that is more than Wayne Chrebet and even terry Glenn had in their first two years (when the broke the record).
 
My wife was in Vegas this past week and her air conditioning broke down. A guy came to fix it and had to hang out to make sure it was working well. Long story short, he brought up his step son who is a WR at a local high school there (Sophomore). Apparently, this unassuming white kid, can dunk and is already being recruited by "USC, BC and some school in Texas"...my guess is Texas Tech. BTW, the kid is only 5'7...

I am not sure whether he was trying to get into my wife's pants or just talking about his life, but either way, I am intrigued.
This sounds like the begining of every "Pron" movie i've ever seen......sorry to break it to you hoss.
I am willing to go to all lengths to get inside info on potential players for the Sweet Love All-Stars. I a a little saddened you were the first one to swing at the lobbing softball; should have been picked up 1-2 posts after mine.
 
My wife was in Vegas this past week and her air conditioning broke down. A guy came to fix it and had to hang out to make sure it was working well. Long story short, he brought up his step son who is a WR at a local high school there (Sophomore). Apparently, this unassuming white kid, can dunk and is already being recruited by "USC, BC and some school in Texas"...my guess is Texas Tech. BTW, the kid is only 5'7...

I am not sure whether he was trying to get into my wife's pants or just talking about his life, but either way, I am intrigued.
Gee, you'd at least hope that a stepfather would know which major D1 program was vying for the attention of his son for the next 4 years. Sounds like this a/c guy might be fibbing a little. But who knows I guess...
He knew...that was just my wife's recount of the story.
Oh ok. That makes more sense.
 
Hmmm, another glorified possession receiver who catches a ton of short passes, but almost never scores?

 
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Jordan Shipley. All kinds of shifty moves and has the desire to get the extra yard.

 
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