Who will beat the Patriots? (1 Viewer)

[Copeman]

While this adds nothing to the conversation at hand, some of you fools need to learn how to use the quote function. Good Lord, it is horrible wading through all of these quotes that are not pertinent. If you're gonna quote someone, quote what you are responding too, not the whole friggin paragraph(s).

 

[Statcruncher]

Steelers are the only team that have any shot IMO. I think they go undefeated.

As I wrote in the OP, if you're counting on the Steelers to beat NE this year, think again. While I would love to see it happen, they don't match up well.I have to add though, that posts like the one eom left earlier are a good example of why Patriot fans are considered so insufferable in these threads. He actually went back to the 2004 shredding of the Pats by the Steelers and blamed it on "running back injuries". In eom's world, the Patriots NEVER lose to another team; they only beat themselves on occasion. No credit can ever be given to any other NFL franchise, all of which are inferior.

So let me again emphasize that though I fully expect the Pats to go 19-0 this year, if it happens it will be a TERRIBLE thing for the NFL, sending all of the wrong messages such as:

1.It's OK for a coach to be a ******* so long as he wins.

Chuck Knoll was notorious for being a ##### to fellow coaches. I could go on, but this one should bring my point home well enough.

2. It's OK to cheat so long as you win.

Dallas dynasty coaches freely admitted to sideline videotaping and called the whole asterisk discussion a pathetic joke by hypocrites, sore losers, and wannabes. I could go on, but this one should bring my point home well enough.

3. It's OK for a gifted WR to put out no effort if he doesn't like where he is, so long as he puts out effort the next year and wins.

How are Chad Johnson's numbers this year? "[opposing] Coach, Coach, you gotta get me outta here!" I could go on, but this one should bring my point home well enough.

4. It's OK to run up the score and humiliate your opponents so long as you win.

See my sig.

5. It's OK for fans to be arrogant and insufferable, so long as their team wins.

Wave that terrible towel. Just be thankful you squeeked past the Browns after their fans were blatently mocked in the subject game thread.

Translated: the ends justify the means.

1. I don't know enough about Noll to reply to your comment. If he was as much of a ******* as Bellichick (which somehow I doubt,) then it was wrong.My point is that it's a joke for you or me or anyone else here to pass judgement on Belichick or Noll or Johnson or anyone else. Shall we round up the 17 teams around the league with "mean" coaches and inform them that they will not be allowed to win because they have a coach who is not as "nice" and Tony Dungy and that sends a bad message?

2. You rely on Jimmy Johnson's sense of ethics as a defense for the Patriots? Nice.

See comment above.

3. You use Chad Johnson to defend Randy Moss? What's the matter, wasn't Terrell Owens available?

Sure Randy has deficiencies in the leadership and "showing up" departments. Shall we round up the 17 teams around the league with prima dona wide receivers and inform them that they will not be allowed to win because they have personnel who are self-absorbed and that sends a bad message?

4. Other teams have been jerks and run up the score. So what?

So what? The items you listed are attempted justifications for your statement "though I fully expect the Pats to go 19-0 this year, if it happens it will be a TERRIBLE thing for the NFL". Shall we round up the 17 teams around the league that have ever run up the score and inform them that...you get the idea.

5. Steeler fans are often insufferable; they don't ever reach the level of Patriot fans, however!

I don't find Steelers fans, as a group, insufferable at all. They are loyal, vocal, and justifiably proud. But when you make statements invalidating what the team I am a fan of has done, or the value of same, or when you attempt to characterize a whole group of people based on your own biases, you can count on a response from me (and twitch, and Phlash, and ... , and, less politely, from eom).

Your points are well made about the fan base, VBD, in general, I find your comments and Twitch's comments to be well thought out. was objecting to others, suchas eom, but it's probably wrong for me to paint everyone with the same brush.As far as your other comments, the differnce with the Patriots this year is that they seem to be winning not in spite of the negatives I have listed but BECAUSE of them, which is why I do seriously believe its bad for the NFL. I'm sorry you don't see this, but trust me, its not me alone who's writing this; I'm hearing it from all over.

Got to get to work now, so I won't be responding again until this evening. Enjoyed the discussion!

While this adds nothing to the conversation at hand, some of you fools need to learn how to use the quote function. Good Lord, it is horrible wading through all of these quotes that are not pertinent. If you're gonna quote someone, quote what you are responding too, not the whole friggin paragraph(s).

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I don't know what any of this is about. All that matters is Buffalo. They are a good team who is playing well right now.

Fans echoing cliches that the players, coaches, media, and other fans know are BS. Holy Christmas. Tell me you are being funny. Or are you concerned if you, as a fan, start looking ahead, this team full of strangers might lose a game?

You know he's being serious. I however haven't heard the "One game at a time" by a Patriots fan since 2004. It's pretty stupid.

 

[greenline]

I don't know what any of this is about. All that matters is Buffalo. They are a good team who is playing well right now.

Fans echoing cliches that the players, coaches, media, and other fans know are BS. Holy Christmas. Tell me you are being funny. Or are you concerned if you, as a fan, start looking ahead, this team full of strangers might lose a game?

Well I was just kidding really. But in general, I don't really worry about other games. I just look forward to the current week's game. The NFL season always goes by too quick.

 

[greenline]

I don't know what any of this is about. All that matters is Buffalo. They are a good team who is playing well right now.

Fans echoing cliches that the players, coaches, media, and other fans know are BS. Holy Christmas. Tell me you are being funny. Or are you concerned if you, as a fan, start looking ahead, this team full of strangers might lose a game?

You know he's being serious. I however haven't heard the "One game at a time" by a Patriots fan since 2004. It's pretty stupid.

You know you don't know anything, right?

 

[eom]

posts like the one eom left earlier are a good example of why Patriot fans are considered so insufferable in these threads. He actually went back to the 2004 shredding of the Pats by the Steelers and blamed it on "running back injuries". In eom's world, the Patriots NEVER lose to another team; they only beat themselves on occasion. No credit can ever be given to any other NFL franchise, all of which are inferior.

week 8 - 2004steelers 34

pats 20

dillon - out

faulk - 5 rushes for 4 yds

cobb - 1 rush for 1 yd

afc champioship - 2004

pats 41

steelers 27

dillon - 23 rushes for 73 yds + 1 td

blow me

edit ps

oh, and fyi -- if you hadn't noticed, all the other teams are inferior.

take a look around.

 

[David Yudkin]

I don't know what any of this is about. All that matters is Buffalo. They are a good team who is playing well right now.

A win is a win . . . but the Bills have not exactly beat the pants off of anyone of late and their 4 wins have come against BAL +9, NYJ +10, CIN +12, and MIA +3 (a combined record of 8-28).

 

[timschochet]

posts like the one eom left earlier are a good example of why Patriot fans are considered so insufferable in these threads. He actually went back to the 2004 shredding of the Pats by the Steelers and blamed it on "running back injuries". In eom's world, the Patriots NEVER lose to another team; they only beat themselves on occasion. No credit can ever be given to any other NFL franchise, all of which are inferior.

week 8 - 2004steelers 34

pats 20

dillon - out

faulk - 5 rushes for 4 yds

cobb - 1 rush for 1 yd

afc champioship - 2004

pats 41

steelers 27

dillon - 23 rushes for 73 yds + 1 td

blow me

edit ps

oh, and fyi -- if you hadn't noticed, all the other teams are inferior.

take a look around.

Dear eom,You forgot to mention that the Pats were down 21-3 early in that game, thanks to terrific QB play by Big Ben and horrible QB by Brady, and that the score effectively took the Pats out of their running game-but I wouldn't expect you to remember that. That only thing inferior around here are your arguments and the mind of the person who makes them.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I don't know what any of this is about. All that matters is Buffalo. They are a good team who is playing well right now.

Fans echoing cliches that the players, coaches, media, and other fans know are BS. Holy Christmas. Tell me you are being funny. Or are you concerned if you, as a fan, start looking ahead, this team full of strangers might lose a game?

Not for me.Im not looking ahead to the Pats at all.2 concerns.1) The New York Jets. 2) The team being best prepared (in a million different ways and aspects) for the playoffs.

 

[switz]

posts like the one eom left earlier are a good example of why Patriot fans are considered so insufferable in these threads. He actually went back to the 2004 shredding of the Pats by the Steelers and blamed it on "running back injuries". In eom's world, the Patriots NEVER lose to another team; they only beat themselves on occasion. No credit can ever be given to any other NFL franchise, all of which are inferior.

week 8 - 2004steelers 34

pats 20

dillon - out

faulk - 5 rushes for 4 yds

cobb - 1 rush for 1 yd

afc champioship - 2004

pats 41

steelers 27

dillon - 23 rushes for 73 yds + 1 td

blow me

edit ps

oh, and fyi -- if you hadn't noticed, all the other teams are inferior.

take a look around.

Dear eom,You forgot to mention that the Pats were down 21-3 early in that game, thanks to terrific QB play by Big Ben and horrible QB by Brady, and that the score effectively took the Pats out of their running game-but I wouldn't expect you to remember that. That only thing inferior around here are your arguments and the mind of the person who makes them.

Do yourself (and us) a favor, and just add eom to your ignore list. I did, and I'm much happier, except when people like you quote him in your replies. Just ignore him, it will make everyone else much happier. Honestly I wish they just had an "Ignore Pats Fans" button.

 

[greenline]

posts like the one eom left earlier are a good example of why Patriot fans are considered so insufferable in these threads. He actually went back to the 2004 shredding of the Pats by the Steelers and blamed it on "running back injuries". In eom's world, the Patriots NEVER lose to another team; they only beat themselves on occasion. No credit can ever be given to any other NFL franchise, all of which are inferior.

week 8 - 2004steelers 34

pats 20

dillon - out

faulk - 5 rushes for 4 yds

cobb - 1 rush for 1 yd

afc champioship - 2004

pats 41

steelers 27

dillon - 23 rushes for 73 yds + 1 td

blow me

edit ps

oh, and fyi -- if you hadn't noticed, all the other teams are inferior.

take a look around.

Dear eom,You forgot to mention that the Pats were down 21-3 early in that game, thanks to terrific QB play by Big Ben and horrible QB by Brady, and that the score effectively took the Pats out of their running game-but I wouldn't expect you to remember that. That only thing inferior around here are your arguments and the mind of the person who makes them.

Do yourself (and us) a favor, and just add eom to your ignore list. I did, and I'm much happier, except when people like you quote him in your replies. Just ignore him, it will make everyone else much happier. Honestly I wish they just had an "Ignore Pats Fans" button.

You must wear your sunglasses at night.

 

[eom]

you could probably do a better job of ignoring pats fans if you didn't troll them in threads devoted to the pats.

 

[timschochet]

posts like the one eom left earlier are a good example of why Patriot fans are considered so insufferable in these threads. He actually went back to the 2004 shredding of the Pats by the Steelers and blamed it on "running back injuries". In eom's world, the Patriots NEVER lose to another team; they only beat themselves on occasion. No credit can ever be given to any other NFL franchise, all of which are inferior.

week 8 - 2004steelers 34

pats 20

dillon - out

faulk - 5 rushes for 4 yds

cobb - 1 rush for 1 yd

afc champioship - 2004

pats 41

steelers 27

dillon - 23 rushes for 73 yds + 1 td

blow me

edit ps

oh, and fyi -- if you hadn't noticed, all the other teams are inferior.

take a look around.

Dear eom,You forgot to mention that the Pats were down 21-3 early in that game, thanks to terrific QB play by Big Ben and horrible QB by Brady, and that the score effectively took the Pats out of their running game-but I wouldn't expect you to remember that. That only thing inferior around here are your arguments and the mind of the person who makes them.

Do yourself (and us) a favor, and just add eom to your ignore list. I did, and I'm much happier, except when people like you quote him in your replies. Just ignore him, it will make everyone else much happier. Honestly I wish they just had an "Ignore Pats Fans" button.

I don't want to ignore anybody (and I hope no one chooses to ignore me...) I actually get a kick out of eom, he can be funny (when he's not being insufferable.) Same for all the Pats fans-let them enjoy themselves this season, I guess. I would.But IF the Pats lose, especially in the playoffs, I am so going to enjoy starting some threads and reading some others...oh please let that happen!!

 

[greenline]

posts like the one eom left earlier are a good example of why Patriot fans are considered so insufferable in these threads. He actually went back to the 2004 shredding of the Pats by the Steelers and blamed it on "running back injuries". In eom's world, the Patriots NEVER lose to another team; they only beat themselves on occasion. No credit can ever be given to any other NFL franchise, all of which are inferior.

week 8 - 2004steelers 34

pats 20

dillon - out

faulk - 5 rushes for 4 yds

cobb - 1 rush for 1 yd

afc champioship - 2004

pats 41

steelers 27

dillon - 23 rushes for 73 yds + 1 td

blow me

edit ps

oh, and fyi -- if you hadn't noticed, all the other teams are inferior.

take a look around.

Dear eom,You forgot to mention that the Pats were down 21-3 early in that game, thanks to terrific QB play by Big Ben and horrible QB by Brady, and that the score effectively took the Pats out of their running game-but I wouldn't expect you to remember that. That only thing inferior around here are your arguments and the mind of the person who makes them.

Do yourself (and us) a favor, and just add eom to your ignore list. I did, and I'm much happier, except when people like you quote him in your replies. Just ignore him, it will make everyone else much happier. Honestly I wish they just had an "Ignore Pats Fans" button.

I don't want to ignore anybody (and I hope no one chooses to ignore me...) I actually get a kick out of eom, he can be funny (when he's not being insufferable.) Same for all the Pats fans-let them enjoy themselves this season, I guess. I would.But IF the Pats lose, especially in the playoffs, I am so going to enjoy starting some threads and reading some others...oh please let that happen!!

You start more Patriot threads than Patriot fans now.

 

[eom]

I am so going to enjoy starting some threads

what??

 

[twitch]

FWIW, Im kinda bummin' that Dwight Freeney is done for the year. And I mean that. Obviously it kills the Colts. They certainly wont be the same. And I dont give them a chance in hell of beating NE now if they even make it to Forxborough. But Freeney is a great dude. He's at the top of the list of players in the NFL that Ive got maximum respect for. Tough loss for just about everyone all around there, but of course especially Colts fans.

NE's runnin' the table. That's all there is to it. But its still 'one game at a time'. There's really no need looking past any single opponent. Im gonna look at every single matchup now like its a mini-Superbowl. The season is too short as it is. Buffalo is in the way right now. Of course most of the world is pulling for them. But I think those guys are in HUGE trouble. First time around Buffalo didnt even get to play against Seymour and Harrison. Not to mention the Pats didnt really start clicking until probably the Dallas game. Those guys really stoked the fire. Now, I have a sense that Pats' players know exactly what theyre going after with regards to history. No chance at all of them looking past, down or around an opponent. Just as always, therye giving every single opponent their very best game. Should be a fun. Good luck Bills fans. Hold down the fort.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Your points are well made about the fan base, VBD, in general, I find your comments and Twitch's comments to be well thought out. was objecting to others, suchas eom, but it's probably wrong for me to paint everyone with the same brush.

As far as your other comments, the differnce with the Patriots this year is that they seem to be winning not in spite of the negatives I have listed but BECAUSE of them, which is why I do seriously believe its bad for the NFL. I'm sorry you don't see this, but trust me, its not me alone who's writing this; I'm hearing it from all over.

Got to get to work now, so I won't be responding again until this evening. Enjoyed the discussion!

Note to self-appointed thread police: partial quote only.

timsc., what I am to get you to look at objectively is what your argument boils down to:

*******, cheat, self-absorbed, running-up-the-score, humiliating, arrogant, insufferable.

Or as phlegm boy says, "toxic waste".

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I am so going to enjoy starting some threads

what??

As if chet doesn't do that already?

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Call me a Bears homer but your sig is somewhat out of line. The Bears have the ball at the goalline with a huge lead in the 3rd quarter. Are you saying they should have punted? They ran the ball. Isn't that what you are supposed to do with a big lead? Run the ball? Secondly the Bears had used the Fridge in the backfield ALL SEASON in goalline situations since he was such an effective blocker. Third, the Fridge had a rushing TD and a receiving TD before he ever scored in the Super Bowl. If you truly think that using a goal line battering ram that has worked all year long is disrespecting the '85 Patriots you need to get out more. Sorry your team ran into a buzzsaw over 2 decades ago but at some point you need to let it go. And for the record it's William Perry but I know what you meant.

The point is not that the Bears did anything wrong, the point is that neither situation is worthy of complaint.

 

[freelander]

Man, you insufferables are gonna need therapy if the Pats lose a game and or the Superbowl.

 

[Mustang Man]

Dallas in the Super Bowl

 

[Hawk Fan]

Spoiler

Dallas

Packers in the Super Bowl