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Who would you draft first? (1 Viewer)

roughrider

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i see them getting drafted:

1. MJD - his TD totals from last year already have some people on this bored talking him up into the top10... so by default he has to be 1st here.

2. Addai - the obvious safe choice that he plays on the Colts. I believe Rhodes is a FA, and he has also demonstrated he likes coming in off the bench so Addai is the #1 guy on what amounts to the best offense in football.

3. Maroney - plays in a very balanced offense, but still splits carries w/ Dillon. If Corey were to go bye-bye, the story may though.

 
i see them getting drafted:1. MJD - his TD totals from last year already have some people on this bored talking him up into the top10... so by default he has to be 1st here.2. Addai - the obvious safe choice that he plays on the Colts. I believe Rhodes is a FA, and he has also demonstrated he likes coming in off the bench so Addai is the #1 guy on what amounts to the best offense in football.3. Maroney - plays in a very balanced offense, but still splits carries w/ Dillon. If Corey were to go bye-bye, the story may though.
Assuming Dillon and Fragile Freddie stick around and Rhodes leaves for greener pastures, I would think Addai would be the top 10 back. After him, it's a tossup...
 
Addai

Maroney

MJD

Addai because he was getting the touches with Rhodes there in the playoffs (32, 21, 16, 29) in the most important games of the season for the highest touted offense on the Super Bowl champion. Hard to imagine with Rhodes gone that Addai isnt a top 6-8 fantasy back next year. Maroney and MJD may have as much (or more) talent, but they dont have the same situation or team. Taylor/Jones and Dillon/Faulk could figure into those offenses alot. I wouldnt mind getting Maroney or MJD, but I doubt Im drafting either in the top 8 RBs as of today, but their status could stiill improve.

 
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Based on talent - maroney, MJD, ADDai

on opportunity - addai, Maroney MJD

long term.. maroney addai mjd

is that every option???

 
Since we don't know if Rhoes/Taylor/Dillon are sticking around or not, I don't factor that into this question yet. All things remaining equal MJD had more total yards, TD, and a higher YPC than the other two. In fact MJD had a higher YPC than anyone else in the league with over 100 carries. Based upon what I have seen and not what I think I might see, MJD is the clear winner here. Still I hope you all keep missing the boat on MJD and you let him fall to my pick.

MJD

Addai

Maroney

I have Addai and Maroney very close to each other.

 
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You need to specify redraft or dynasty.

Redraft

The committee situations they shared in during 2006 may change for one, two, or all three of them for 2007 but it's too soon to know for sure how all that will shake out. Until after the NFL draft and free agency it's a guess in redraft, but if I had to make a guess it'd be:

Addai (80/20 Rhodes leaves)

Maroney (50/50 Dillon leaves)

Jones-Drew (70/30 Taylor stays, plus Greg Jones comes back to vulture some TDs)

Dynasty

For dynasty, what happens with Taylor, Rhodes, and Dillon in 2007 becomes less important. These guys are all perceived to be close right now, and no one really knows long term. It's likely that major injury will end up being the thing separating these guys in the long term, not talent. That said,

Preseason 2006 Rookie 100 ranking by Bloom:

Maroney

Addai

Drew

Current dynasty rankings by Bloom, Pasquino, Fear & Loathing:

Bloom:

13 Maroney

14 Jones-Drew

19 Addai

Pasquino:

13 Maroney

16 Jones-Drew

22 Addai

Fear & Loathing:

11 Jones-Drew

13 Maroney

14 Addai

Some additional concerns with Jones-Drew:

(1) QB position unsettled (rather than Brady and Manning for the other guys)

(2) The return of a young Greg Jones who may vulture TDs for years, even when Freddy T is gone... a considerable part of MJD's value in 2006 was his TDs.

Some additional concerns with Addai:

(1) History of injury in college, and never has carried the full load in either college or at Indy. His durability may be in question, especially if Rhodes departs.

(2) He is almost 2 full years older than Maroney and MJD, turning 24 in May while the others are 22 in Feb and March. That may be irrelevant now, but may become relevant if you are owning one of them 4-5 years from now. With young players, I always use a 5-year look. Many don't, and that's fine.

Additional concern with Maroney:

As long as Belichick and Brady are there, I can't really think of one. Maroney's play fell off in the latter part of 2006, but he had injury issues and I wouldn't be concerned going forward.

Couch Potato dynasty ranking:

Maroney

Addai

Jones-Drew

 
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Nice post Couch Potato, one thought on Drew he is 2 days younger than A.Perterson... and has legs like Barry Sanders.

IMO Drew in a dynasty or redraft will be very valuable

 
Assuming ppr, in a dynasty I'd say:

1a. MJD - we already know he can be a yardage monster in a sharing situation. I assume the TD totals could go down, but I'm not going to go worrying about Greg Jones' affect on MJD. Game to game, in a ppr, I think this kid will produce consistent numbers, and he just looks special in a lot of ways (with the production to back it last season). To me, grabbing MJD is a lot like drafting Westbrook, in that he can produce even when sharing carries because of his all-around skills and explosiveness. If we assume that Greg Jones doesn't hurt him too badly, Taylor is pretty old, and it'd only be a matter of time before he's out of the way entirely. My only concern is whether Drew can hold up with a full load.

1b. Addai - he's in a great situation and performed very well last season but I can't get past watching him come on and off the field constantly at LSU. He pushed through some injuries well this season, so who knows. His value is a little inflated right now, but in some ways it's justified.

3. Maroney - I'm just not that big a fan, not just because of his rough 2nd half, but because I don't like my #1 anything (unless it's QB) coming from that NE offense. Faulk isn't going anywhere, and he'll vulture plenty of receptions (I'm interested in paying the ppr bills here), so I don't see Maroney being the all-purpose back that MJD or Addai should be.

In a redraft, I'd probably go the same way.

 
1 MJD - Best pure runner and most talented of the group. He can put up numbers in a variety of ways.

2 Addai - Great situation. Solid fundamentals, but nothing spectacular. Doesn't matter though, situation will give him the chance to succeed.

3 Maroney - I am just not a fan. I can't put my finger on it. I just do not see him being the three down productive back.

 
This is a veryhard decision to make in a redraft if you ask me. We really have no idea how to project the mumber of touches for all 3 of these RBs right now. My gut tells me that Addai will see the most right now. Therefore my redraft rankings are as such:

Addai

Drew

Maroney

As for Dynasty, I think it gets much easier as we have to evalutate the overall talent of the 3 RBs. That said, I rank them:

Drew

Maroney

Addai

 
This question is basically pointless because something will change within the Indy, NE or Jax backfield before next season which will cause someone to leap frog someone else.

Based on Talent and for a dynasty perspective...

1. Maroney

2. MJD

3. Addai

 
1) Maroney - Ok, I'm a Pats homer. Still, Maroney has sick skills, huge open field speed and elusiveness, and great upper body strength. He has basically mastered the stiff arm, and does not put the ball on the ground, something that BB adores in a RB. Belichick, despite what other's may believe, prefers to have a feature RB who can carry the offense through the game, make big plays in key situations, catch passes from Brady, and kill the clock when his team is up. Maroney can do all of these.

2) MJD - This guy is going to be a powerhouse in this league. His open field ability isn't even as good as his power, but he surely has both in spades. He runs low to the ground, does NOT take big hits, and is a threat to score TDs from any point on the field. His hands are excellent, his speed is excellent, he's strong, motivated, and do not think for a second that he's too short, because he plays huge.

3) Addai - A very talented RB for sure; he will produce simply because Peyton is his QB, and teams will never dare stack the box. This works perfectly for him in that he finds lots of open space to run/juke/spin around in to make extra yards, and hopefully break a big play or two.

While I do believe its 1) Maroney, 2) MJD, and 3) Addai for next year, I believe it'll come down to the wire for these 3. All will be very good picks, and whoever falls farthest in redraft will find himself to be the most value and the better pick in the draft.

 
The most question marks are in Jacksonville...

- will Taylor return

- will Janes vulture any goal-line carries

- who's the starting QB?

- will DelRio be the head coach much longer?

For those question marks I'd have to list Maurice Jones-Drew #3

Flip a coin on Addai vs. Moroney. I prefer Addai because I'm comfortable with his #1A status in Indy but it's very, very close (especially if Dillon ends up somewhere other than w/ the Pats).

 
I think it is tough to call. I feel you have to consider the value or VBD of each. While I think Addai will be poised to have the bigger '07, I think you can't go wrong with MJD or Maroney based on where you can draft them.

 
Since we don't know if Rhoes/Taylor/Dillon are sticking around or not, I don't factor that into this question yet. All things remaining equal MJD had more total yards, TD, and a higher YPC than the other two. In fact MJD had a higher YPC than anyone else in the league with over 100 carries. Based upon what I have seen and not what I think I might see, MJD is the clear winner here. Still I hope you all keep missing the boat on MJD and you let him fall to my pick.MJDAddaiMaroneyI have Addai and Maroney very close to each other.
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Maroney = Stephen Jackson. In a few years, this won't be a discussion.
SJAX is 6'2" and 233lbs.Maroney is 5'11" and 205lbs.I don't get how Maroney=SJAX...unless you are looking purely at how Jackson started behind Faulk and Maroney has started behind Dillon
 
If they all are the unquestioned starters I'd go MJD, Addai, Maroney. If nothing changed in their current situation I'd go Addai, MJD, Maroney.

 
Based on talent - maroney, MJD, ADDaion opportunity - addai, Maroney MJDlong term.. maroney addai mjdis that every option???
huh? What has Addai done that has shown he is the 3rd most talented in that group?My take:1. Addai2. Maroney3. MJD
 
I know Dillon proved me wrong a few years ago, but never trust a New England Patriot year in and out to be number RB or WR - they spread the ball too much.

 
Maroney, Addai then MJD.

I dont think it matters that much, all 3 of these guys will be gone by the mid 2nd in a start up dynasty draft. If you're picking at the end of rd1 in a 12 or 14 team league theirs a good chance you can land 2 of these guys.

 
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I know Dillon proved me wrong a few years ago, but never trust a New England Patriot year in and out to be number RB or WR - they spread the ball too much.
Thats cause the Patriots never had a feature RB like Dillon before. They have had some RBBC groups in the past, but with Maroney and a 1st round pick, I doubt they are looking to have a RBBC group again.
 
MJD - I'm always wary of a guy whose value is predicated on TDs but who is not the goaline back. Those TDs are really volatile from year to year. But the thing is that Drew looked great on the field. He reminded me most of Travis Henry back when he was rushing for 1400 yards a season. I think Jacksonville has something special here.

A guy I'm really not so high on is Addai. He's basically got the same stats as Rhodes had in his rookie season. I mean almost identical. Ok, maybe that's not entirely relevant. Still, I wonder if the Colts intend to expand Addai's role. I didn't think he looked so great while putting up very nice numbers, so it's hard to say. But I think that Indy knew that it didn't need a great RB to make the system go. It needed a good, well-utilized tandem. As it is, Addai had 266 touches last season and did special teams work. Does he go to 320 touches? I'm not sure. Imagine if Indy brought in Jamal Lewis, should he become available. If Rhodes goes, surely they're going to add some experienced veteran to the roster.

Which brings us to Maroney. I think he can play, and I think he went through a rookie-wall conditiong kind of thing. I would probably select him ahead of Addai if I was forced to, but knowing that most of the world thinks Addai is the better bet, I'd probably take the risk of trading down if both he and Addai were on the board.

 
Addai - all around talent, surrounding cast etc. makes him the obvious top choice

- big drop off -

MJD

Maroney

neither are #1 backs on their team, NE uses their players all differently so you will never be able to count on Maroney ever week, and MJD is a streaky player IMO

 
Addai - all around talent, surrounding cast etc. makes him the obvious top choice - big drop off -MJDMaroneyneither are #1 backs on their team, NE uses their players all differently so you will never be able to count on Maroney ever week, and MJD is a streaky player IMO
Streaky? What exactly are you using to define that? MJD was far LESS "streaky" than Addai last year. Why don't we just cast personal opinions aside and look at the numbers:
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WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  dal  |	2	 8  |	 0  |  0 ||  2  pit  |	2	 4  |	 6  |  0 ||  3  ind  |   13   103  |	32  |  1 ||  4  was  |	3	 3  |	53  |  1 ||  5  nyj  |   13	59  |	 0  |  2 ||  7  hou  |	8	10  |	58  |  1 ||  8  phi  |   21	77  |	20  |  0 ||  9  ten  |	8	56  |	29  |  0 || 10  hou  |	3	11  |	56  |  1 || 11  nyg  |	9	45  |	16  |  1 || 12  buf  |	8	78  |	47  |  1 || 13  mia  |	5	46  |	 0  |  1 || 14  ind  |   15   166  |	15  |  2 || 15  ten  |   25	98  |	47  |  1 || 16  nwe  |   19   131  |	41  |  2 || 17  kan  |   12	46  |	16  |  1 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  166   941  |   436  | 15 |
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WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  nyg  |	7	26  |	22  |  0 ||  2  hou  |   16	82  |	22  |  1 ||  3  jax  |	3	15  |	13  |  0 ||  4  nyj  |   20	84  |	15  |  1 ||  5  ten  |   13	62  |	15  |  0 ||  7  was  |   11	85  |	20  |  0 ||  8  den  |   17	93  |	37  |  0 ||  9  nwe  |   18	43  |	 0  |  1 || 10  buf  |   13	78  |	46  |  1 || 11  dal  |   13	50  |	 7  |  0 || 12  phi  |   24   171  |	37  |  4 || 13  ten  |   16	56  |	11  |  0 || 14  jax  |   11	22  |	14  |  0 || 15  cin  |	8	50  |	29  |  0 || 16  hou  |   15   100  |	 8  |  0 || 17  mia  |   21	64  |	29  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  226  1081  |   325  |  8
 
Addai - all around talent, surrounding cast etc. makes him the obvious top choice - big drop off -MJDMaroneyneither are #1 backs on their team, NE uses their players all differently so you will never be able to count on Maroney ever week, and MJD is a streaky player IMO
Streaky? What exactly are you using to define that? MJD was far LESS "streaky" than Addai last year. Why don't we just cast personal opinions aside and look at the numbers:
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WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  dal  |	2	 8  |	 0  |  0 ||  2  pit  |	2	 4  |	 6  |  0 ||  3  ind  |   13   103  |	32  |  1 ||  4  was  |	3	 3  |	53  |  1 ||  5  nyj  |   13	59  |	 0  |  2 ||  7  hou  |	8	10  |	58  |  1 ||  8  phi  |   21	77  |	20  |  0 ||  9  ten  |	8	56  |	29  |  0 || 10  hou  |	3	11  |	56  |  1 || 11  nyg  |	9	45  |	16  |  1 || 12  buf  |	8	78  |	47  |  1 || 13  mia  |	5	46  |	 0  |  1 || 14  ind  |   15   166  |	15  |  2 || 15  ten  |   25	98  |	47  |  1 || 16  nwe  |   19   131  |	41  |  2 || 17  kan  |   12	46  |	16  |  1 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  166   941  |   436  | 15 |
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WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  nyg  |	7	26  |	22  |  0 ||  2  hou  |   16	82  |	22  |  1 ||  3  jax  |	3	15  |	13  |  0 ||  4  nyj  |   20	84  |	15  |  1 ||  5  ten  |   13	62  |	15  |  0 ||  7  was  |   11	85  |	20  |  0 ||  8  den  |   17	93  |	37  |  0 ||  9  nwe  |   18	43  |	 0  |  1 || 10  buf  |   13	78  |	46  |  1 || 11  dal  |   13	50  |	 7  |  0 || 12  phi  |   24   171  |	37  |  4 || 13  ten  |   16	56  |	11  |  0 || 14  jax  |   11	22  |	14  |  0 || 15  cin  |	8	50  |	29  |  0 || 16  hou  |   15   100  |	 8  |  0 || 17  mia  |   21	64  |	29  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  226  1081  |   325  |  8
Looking at those stats I would say player #1 was streakier. And you didn't say who was who, and I didn't look it up.
 
Addai - all around talent, surrounding cast etc. makes him the obvious top choice - big drop off -MJDMaroneyneither are #1 backs on their team, NE uses their players all differently so you will never be able to count on Maroney ever week, and MJD is a streaky player IMO
Streaky? What exactly are you using to define that? MJD was far LESS "streaky" than Addai last year. Why don't we just cast personal opinions aside and look at the numbers:
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WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  dal  |	2	 8  |	 0  |  0 ||  2  pit  |	2	 4  |	 6  |  0 ||  3  ind  |   13   103  |	32  |  1 ||  4  was  |	3	 3  |	53  |  1 ||  5  nyj  |   13	59  |	 0  |  2 ||  7  hou  |	8	10  |	58  |  1 ||  8  phi  |   21	77  |	20  |  0 ||  9  ten  |	8	56  |	29  |  0 || 10  hou  |	3	11  |	56  |  1 || 11  nyg  |	9	45  |	16  |  1 || 12  buf  |	8	78  |	47  |  1 || 13  mia  |	5	46  |	 0  |  1 || 14  ind  |   15   166  |	15  |  2 || 15  ten  |   25	98  |	47  |  1 || 16  nwe  |   19   131  |	41  |  2 || 17  kan  |   12	46  |	16  |  1 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  166   941  |   436  | 15 |
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WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  nyg  |	7	26  |	22  |  0 ||  2  hou  |   16	82  |	22  |  1 ||  3  jax  |	3	15  |	13  |  0 ||  4  nyj  |   20	84  |	15  |  1 ||  5  ten  |   13	62  |	15  |  0 ||  7  was  |   11	85  |	20  |  0 ||  8  den  |   17	93  |	37  |  0 ||  9  nwe  |   18	43  |	 0  |  1 || 10  buf  |   13	78  |	46  |  1 || 11  dal  |   13	50  |	 7  |  0 || 12  phi  |   24   171  |	37  |  4 || 13  ten  |   16	56  |	11  |  0 || 14  jax  |   11	22  |	14  |  0 || 15  cin  |	8	50  |	29  |  0 || 16  hou  |   15   100  |	 8  |  0 || 17  mia  |   21	64  |	29  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  226  1081  |   325  |  8
Looking at those stats I would say player #1 was streakier. And you didn't say who was who, and I didn't look it up.
Psssst.... Bottom one has them playing Jax and the top one has them playing Indy.As this discussion was between MJD (Jax) and Addai (Indy), that would put it as:Top one = MJDBottom = Addai :hey: EDIT :I was waaaay to harsh. Edited for a more peaceful alternative.
 
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Addai - all around talent, surrounding cast etc. makes him the obvious top choice - big drop off -MJDMaroneyneither are #1 backs on their team, NE uses their players all differently so you will never be able to count on Maroney ever week, and MJD is a streaky player IMO
Streaky? What exactly are you using to define that? MJD was far LESS "streaky" than Addai last year. Why don't we just cast personal opinions aside and look at the numbers:
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WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  dal  |	2	 8  |	 0  |  0 ||  2  pit  |	2	 4  |	 6  |  0 ||  3  ind  |   13   103  |	32  |  1 ||  4  was  |	3	 3  |	53  |  1 ||  5  nyj  |   13	59  |	 0  |  2 ||  7  hou  |	8	10  |	58  |  1 ||  8  phi  |   21	77  |	20  |  0 ||  9  ten  |	8	56  |	29  |  0 || 10  hou  |	3	11  |	56  |  1 || 11  nyg  |	9	45  |	16  |  1 || 12  buf  |	8	78  |	47  |  1 || 13  mia  |	5	46  |	 0  |  1 || 14  ind  |   15   166  |	15  |  2 || 15  ten  |   25	98  |	47  |  1 || 16  nwe  |   19   131  |	41  |  2 || 17  kan  |   12	46  |	16  |  1 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  166   941  |   436  | 15 |
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WK  OPP  |  RSH   YD   |  RECYD | TD |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  1  nyg  |	7	26  |	22  |  0 ||  2  hou  |   16	82  |	22  |  1 ||  3  jax  |	3	15  |	13  |  0 ||  4  nyj  |   20	84  |	15  |  1 ||  5  ten  |   13	62  |	15  |  0 ||  7  was  |   11	85  |	20  |  0 ||  8  den  |   17	93  |	37  |  0 ||  9  nwe  |   18	43  |	 0  |  1 || 10  buf  |   13	78  |	46  |  1 || 11  dal  |   13	50  |	 7  |  0 || 12  phi  |   24   171  |	37  |  4 || 13  ten  |   16	56  |	11  |  0 || 14  jax  |   11	22  |	14  |  0 || 15  cin  |	8	50  |	29  |  0 || 16  hou  |   15   100  |	 8  |  0 || 17  mia  |   21	64  |	29  |  0 |+----------+-------------+--------+----+|  TOTAL   |  226  1081  |   325  |  8
Looking at those stats I would say player #1 was streakier. And you didn't say who was who, and I didn't look it up.
In what crazy scoring system is player 1 streakier?
 

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