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Who's the Seattle WR to jump on? (1 Viewer)
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abishagenaden
Footballguy
PPR: Engram
non-PPR: Branch
non-PPR: Branch
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Tough to call. I don't think there's enough history with both Branch & Engram in the lineup together to see if there's a real bias to one or the other. What I recall seeing with Hasselbeck is a seasoned QB that will hit the open guy. Both Branch and Engram have the ability to get open, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a fairly even distribution of targets.The big question will be how each WR will come back from their injury. Does Branch still have the quickness coming out of his breaks? Will Engram, who makes his living over the middle, have lingering issues with his shoulder? Can he take the big hit?The real winner here is Hasselbeck. I think you can bump him back up into top 10 area, now that he has some NFL receivers to catch the ball.
Rounders
Footballguy
Refresh my memory on what their injuries were again? Branch -- Knee, ACL? Engram -- Shoulder, Dislocated?
Both of these guys are available for me to pickup and I only have one roster spot available, I would like to make it count. I would think that a knee injury is more difficult to come back from (especially if it was serious) as opposed to a shoulder injury.
TIA
Both of these guys are available for me to pickup and I only have one roster spot available, I would like to make it count. I would think that a knee injury is more difficult to come back from (especially if it was serious) as opposed to a shoulder injury.
TIA
lord_helmet
Footballguy
Engram looks like the safest bet, but I think Branch has the highest ceiling.
3C's
Footballguy
that's what I hear. we'll see
Engram looks like the safest bet, but I think Branch has the highest ceiling.
My partner and I just picked up Branch in our league. We are 0-4 and really need to take some chances to get back in the race, so we took Branch.
goldenchild
Footballguy
Engram looks like the safest bet, but I think Branch has the highest ceiling.
My partner and I just picked up Branch in our league. We are 0-4 and really need to take some chances to get back in the race, so we took Branch.
NTTAWWT
Road Warriors
Footballguy
I'm not sure about this. I can make the Welker/Engram leap easily, they're both similar players, running short and intermediate routes with a knack for getting open. Moss/Branch? No, I don't see that at all. Branch is not a vertical threat. He doesn't have elite speed, but gets separation using his excellent quickness out of his breaks and running good routes. He won't beat double teams. He can be taken out of a game, if the opposition wants to. Branch is a good receiver, but not a typical #1, you gotta gameplan for, type or WR. I see Branch being productive, but he'll need to have fully recovered from his ACL injury and regained quickness and ability to cut. If he's slowed or tentative, he is too small and too slow to threaten a defense.Think a poor man's 2007 Moss/Welker duo.
Enforcer
Footballguy
I've posted a lot of news in a similar thread from the local beat writers, but I'll give my opinion here.
I'm going to have to go with Branch if he's fully healthy. Engram's numbers last year were inflated because of injuries to Branch and Hackett. His 2007 season was an aberration when viewed objectively. That said, 2008 could be similar if Branch isn't ready to go.
The flanker in the Seattle offense has traditionally been the #1 option in the passing game. Darrell Jackson put up huge numbers for years and he wasn't anything special as an individual talent. That will be Branch is he's healthy. Holmgren and Hasselbeck have consistently stated that they want to keep Engram in the #3 slot position because that's were he excels.
I'll be curious to see who lines up at split end. Right now my guess is they will release Robinson and slide McMullen over to SE. He's been the new guy that has received the best press clippings and impressed the team the most.
I'm going to have to go with Branch if he's fully healthy. Engram's numbers last year were inflated because of injuries to Branch and Hackett. His 2007 season was an aberration when viewed objectively. That said, 2008 could be similar if Branch isn't ready to go.
The flanker in the Seattle offense has traditionally been the #1 option in the passing game. Darrell Jackson put up huge numbers for years and he wasn't anything special as an individual talent. That will be Branch is he's healthy. Holmgren and Hasselbeck have consistently stated that they want to keep Engram in the #3 slot position because that's were he excels.
I'll be curious to see who lines up at split end. Right now my guess is they will release Robinson and slide McMullen over to SE. He's been the new guy that has received the best press clippings and impressed the team the most.
Branch isn't good enough to be THE GUY (like Moss), but he's one of those receivers that can thrive opposite another quality WR- that's why he was a former Patriots super bowl MVP. He's in no way a 1:1 comparison to Moss (hence the poor man comment), but he can get yards after the catch and can run decent routes. He may not be as quick as DJ Hackett was, but he's still more than capable of being a 100-yd + 1 TD performer on a given week given the offense and being paired with Engram (assuming of course that his recovery from surgery doesn't backfire).I'm not sure about this. I can make the Welker/Engram leap easily, they're both similar players, running short and intermediate routes with a knack for getting open. Moss/Branch? No, I don't see that at all. Branch is not a vertical threat. He doesn't have elite speed, but gets separation using his excellent quickness out of his breaks and running good routes. He won't beat double teams. He can be taken out of a game, if the opposition wants to. Branch is a good receiver, but not a typical #1, you gotta gameplan for, type or WR. I see Branch being productive, but he'll need to have fully recovered from his ACL injury and regained quickness and ability to cut. If he's slowed or tentative, he is too small and too slow to threaten a defense.Think a poor man's 2007 Moss/Welker duo.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Yeah. The Welker / Engram link is solid since both guys rely on their smarts and their good route-running as opposed to incredible raw talent.Branch isn't in the same universe as Moss, though. Moss is a lot taller, a lot faster, and has a lot better verticle leap.I'm not sure about this. I can make the Welker/Engram leap easily, they're both similar players, running short and intermediate routes with a knack for getting open. Moss/Branch? No, I don't see that at all. Branch is not a vertical threat. He doesn't have elite speed, but gets separation using his excellent quickness out of his breaks and running good routes. He won't beat double teams. He can be taken out of a game, if the opposition wants to. Branch is a good receiver, but not a typical #1, you gotta gameplan for, type or WR. I see Branch being productive, but he'll need to have fully recovered from his ACL injury and regained quickness and ability to cut. If he's slowed or tentative, he is too small and too slow to threaten a defense.Think a poor man's 2007 Moss/Welker duo.
Enforcer
Footballguy
LINK
Here's the morning bit from the Tacoma News Tribune (TNT), but I have a hard time buying it. Eric Williams (the author) is not the TNT Seahawks beat writer on staff. He does a "morning links" bit for the blog. Time will tell, but I think he's off base in trying to name Engram the flanker and Branch the split end. If you follow the link and read the local readers comments others have already pointed out that they believe this is wrong.
Here's the morning bit from the Tacoma News Tribune (TNT), but I have a hard time buying it. Eric Williams (the author) is not the TNT Seahawks beat writer on staff. He does a "morning links" bit for the blog. Time will tell, but I think he's off base in trying to name Engram the flanker and Branch the split end. If you follow the link and read the local readers comments others have already pointed out that they believe this is wrong.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
I agree that he is a good receiver that can thrive in the right situation, don't get me wrong.The Moss/Welker comparison falls short for me mostly because of the impact that having Moss on the field had on the defense and particularly on the coverages that Welker saw. A fair amount of Welker's productivity can be attributed to the fact that Moss drew coverage, especially deep safety coverage, leaving the middle open for Welker. Branch can be productive if left in single coverage, but by and large teams aren't afraid of Branch beating them if they don't roll coverage to Branch every play. Anyway, its just nitpicking a bit on my part. This is a quality receiving duo and ( if healthy ) will produce solid numbers, with some big games. I would probably go Engram over Branch if I had to choose one off the wire, as I think he will produce decent WR2/3 type numbers regularly. Branch will probably average just a bit higher by years end, but will have more variance in his weekly scores, IMO.Branch isn't good enough to be THE GUY (like Moss), but he's one of those receivers that can thrive opposite another quality WR- that's why he was a former Patriots super bowl MVP. He's in no way a 1:1 comparison to Moss (hence the poor man comment), but he can get yards after the catch and can run decent routes. He may not be as quick as DJ Hackett was, but he's still more than capable of being a 100-yd + 1 TD performer on a given week given the offense and being paired with Engram (assuming of course that his recovery from surgery doesn't backfire).I'm not sure about this. I can make the Welker/Engram leap easily, they're both similar players, running short and intermediate routes with a knack for getting open. Moss/Branch? No, I don't see that at all. Branch is not a vertical threat. He doesn't have elite speed, but gets separation using his excellent quickness out of his breaks and running good routes. He won't beat double teams. He can be taken out of a game, if the opposition wants to. Branch is a good receiver, but not a typical #1, you gotta gameplan for, type or WR. I see Branch being productive, but he'll need to have fully recovered from his ACL injury and regained quickness and ability to cut. If he's slowed or tentative, he is too small and too slow to threaten a defense.Think a poor man's 2007 Moss/Welker duo.
I prefer someone who is more consistent in the scores that they produce instead of being up and down. The problem that I have with Branch is that his
scoring is very inconsistent. He played 11 games in 2007 and in those 11 games he had five games with four points or less.
Engram is more consistent in his production.
I prefer Engram in any format due to that.
scoring is very inconsistent. He played 11 games in 2007 and in those 11 games he had five games with four points or less.
Engram is more consistent in his production.
I prefer Engram in any format due to that.
i agree. plus i am taking the guy who didn't blow out his knee last year.
3C's
Footballguy
At least for this week, something to temper the expectations of Branch:
Holmgren said that Branch will probably be eased back into action, playing only a limited number of snaps Sunday.
"If he practices well (this week), and he handles it well, then we'll have to throw him out there," Holmgren said. "But to play the whole game, he's probably not ready to do that."
Holmgren said that Branch will probably be eased back into action, playing only a limited number of snaps Sunday.
"If he practices well (this week), and he handles it well, then we'll have to throw him out there," Holmgren said. "But to play the whole game, he's probably not ready to do that."
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