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Why Childress Should be Fired (1 Viewer)

There has only been one game all year where they turned the game over to Peterson to try and win. That was against Green Bay. Peterson was all but taken out of the game as soon as Minnesota got behind. Minnesota switches to a 90% passing team when trailing in the second half (not official statistics...just the reflections of a frustrated fan).

 
There has only been one game all year where they turned the game over to Peterson to try and win. That was against Green Bay. Peterson was all but taken out of the game as soon as Minnesota got behind. Minnesota switches to a 90% passing team when trailing in the second half (not official statistics...just the reflections of a frustrated fan).
Peterson is THE reason they lost this game.
 
There has only been one game all year where they turned the game over to Peterson to try and win. That was against Green Bay. Peterson was all but taken out of the game as soon as Minnesota got behind. Minnesota switches to a 90% passing team when trailing in the second half (not official statistics...just the reflections of a frustrated fan).
Peterson is THE reason they lost this game.
The reason?4 or 5 turnovers...2 fumbles lost by Jackson...one by Berrian...one by Peterson.I would not say he was the reason.Atlanta moved the ball pretty well early on too.
 
There has only been one game all year where they turned the game over to Peterson to try and win. That was against Green Bay. Peterson was all but taken out of the game as soon as Minnesota got behind. Minnesota switches to a 90% passing team when trailing in the second half (not official statistics...just the reflections of a frustrated fan).
Peterson is THE reason they lost this game.
The reason?4 or 5 turnovers...2 fumbles lost by Jackson...one by Berrian...one by Peterson.I would not say he was the reason.Atlanta moved the ball pretty well early on too.
The one fumble was credited to Jackson but it was on Peterson. And yes, I overstated it, it wasn't just Peterson, but there is NO WAY that you can put this one on the coach.
 
There has only been one game all year where they turned the game over to Peterson to try and win. That was against Green Bay. Peterson was all but taken out of the game as soon as Minnesota got behind. Minnesota switches to a 90% passing team when trailing in the second half (not official statistics...just the reflections of a frustrated fan).
Peterson is THE reason they lost this game.
The reason?4 or 5 turnovers...2 fumbles lost by Jackson...one by Berrian...one by Peterson.I would not say he was the reason.Atlanta moved the ball pretty well early on too.
The one fumble was credited to Jackson but it was on Peterson. And yes, I overstated it, it wasn't just Peterson, but there is NO WAY that you can put this one on the coach.
True...not on him this week...players have to hold onto the ball. Coach can't do much about that.Im torn between my dislike of the vikings and that of the Bears...and of not wanting to ever lose to the Bears...of course I want GB to kick the crap out of the Bears...but if they do happen to lose, part of my won't feel too bad as it makes the Vikings sweat another week.
 
Have to bump this. 10 minutes left in the game and down by 2 td's and you call 4 straight passing plays?? Childress's inability to misuse the most talented person on his team is mind boggling to me. Putting the game in Jacksons hands without even giving Peterson a touch is crazy. If you keep giving him the ball he WILL break one.
I don't know man, his fumbles killed the team's chances in the first half.
 
Days of killing Childress for not giving Peterson the ball all the time is over. Cant trust him to hang on to it.

 
Days of killing Childress for not giving Peterson the ball all the time is over. Cant trust him to hang on to it.
Yep. This game was not Childress' fault or Tarvaris' fault... Berrian and Adrian and et al dug too deep a hole for the rest of the team to dig out of. The Vikings lost to a playoff team, have to pray for the Bears to lose or fight hard against an even more distinguished team next week to guarantee a playoff berth... it's a typical end to a Vikings season.
 
Dont know why I keep letting myself get suckered in to thinking this is a good team...every time I get close they rip my heart out, you'd think I'd learn eventually...

 
Dont know why I keep letting myself get suckered in to thinking this is a good team...every time I get close they rip my heart out, you'd think I'd learn eventually...
You must be new to this Vikings fan thing. This has been a reoccuring theme since 1961.
:rolleyes: It's never boring, that's for sure. Just gives more reason to tune into the game tonight and probably next week's game as well! They could have gone into a shell, but they did fight back.
 
New deal on horizon for Vikes' Childress

Posted on: October 20, 2009 4:01 pm

Edited on: October 21, 2009 1:38 pm

A contract extension is in the works for Minnesota coach Brad Childress, with a new deal possible within the next two to three weeks.

That would make sense because a) the Vikings are off to their first 6-0 start since 2003, b) they've improved each year under Childress and c) they have a bye after their next two games.

There had been speculation that Childress' contract would not be addressed until after the season, but his agent, Bob LaMonte, was seen at Sunday's Vikings-Ravens game, and sources close to the club said he was there partly to see Childress and partly to negotiate a new deal.

Childress is in the fourth year of a five-year contract and was supposed to be under a Win-or-Else ultimatum this season. Well, he's won, and while management does not have to address his situation immediately it appears it will. One source said an extension is so close that an announcement could come early next month, but another indicated that nothing is "imminent."

Maybe, but it sure looks as if something will be done at or around mid-season. Childress' success seems to have resonated with the team's owner, Zygi Wilf, who has seen the club go from six to eight to 10 wins in Childress' first three seasons. Now at 6-0, it's safe to assume the Vikings will exceed Childress' 10 victories of last year. The hitch, of course, is that two of their toughest games this season are the two taking them into the bye -- at Pittsburgh and at Green Bay. But when I asked one source what obstacle could sabotage a potential deal I was told, "nothing." We'll see.

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b) they've improved each year under Childress
This one always cracks me up.2005 9-7 M.Tice2006 6-10 B.Childress + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent2007 8-82008 10-6
It's really not that huge of a drop that everyone likes to make it out to be. The Vikes were 6-8 going into the final weeks of the season, and Childress handed the team over to rookie Tarvaris Jackson for the last two weeks to see what they had. If Brad Johnson starts against the Packers, it is well within the realm of possibility that the Vikes win that game (they only lost 9-7). The Vikes likely lose week 17 regardless, as the Rams smoked the Vikes, so realistically, the Vikes were only two games worse in the win column. Childress took a team over that had a bare cupboard as far as offensive talent goes. They bring in a new offense, a new defense, and have to rebuild the roster. It's not as simple as you make it.Now, I'm not a huge Childress fan, so I'm not saying he deserves the extension. Personally, I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship to deserve an extension. If he doesn't get there this year, he might as well find a new job, in my book.
 
Now, I'm not a huge Childress fan, so I'm not saying he deserves the extension. Personally, I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship to deserve an extension. If he doesn't get there this year, he might as well find a new job, in my book.
I'm with you.I'd like to see Bill Cowher coach this team. His Steelers were great at using multi-talented players in different ways (Kordell, Ward, Randle-El). Imagine what he could do with Percy Harvin...
 
b) they've improved each year under Childress
This one always cracks me up.2005 9-7 M.Tice2006 6-10 B.Childress + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent2007 8-82008 10-6
It's really not that huge of a drop that everyone likes to make it out to be. The Vikes were 6-8 going into the final weeks of the season, and Childress handed the team over to rookie Tarvaris Jackson for the last two weeks to see what they had. If Brad Johnson starts against the Packers, it is well within the realm of possibility that the Vikes win that game (they only lost 9-7). The Vikes likely lose week 17 regardless, as the Rams smoked the Vikes, so realistically, the Vikes were only two games worse in the win column. Childress took a team over that had a bare cupboard as far as offensive talent goes. They bring in a new offense, a new defense, and have to rebuild the roster. It's not as simple as you make it.Now, I'm not a huge Childress fan, so I'm not saying he deserves the extension. Personally, I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship to deserve an extension. If he doesn't get there this year, he might as well find a new job, in my book.
How many Asst Coaches have they added since Red left?How much have they spent improving the facilities at Winter Park since Red left?2006 - FA Hutchinson* -Leber -Longwell -Taylor D Greenway-Griffin-Edwards2007 - FA Shiancoe D Peterson*- Rice2008 - FA Allen* -Berrian - MWilliamsAm I missing anyone? B.Childress + 3 years + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent = 1 game improvement. It's Zygi's $. In my opinion it would be better spent on someone else.
 
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TeamDingo said:
Bull Dozier said:
TeamDingo said:
Titus Pullo said:
b) they've improved each year under Childress
This one always cracks me up.2005 9-7 M.Tice2006 6-10 B.Childress + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent2007 8-82008 10-6
It's really not that huge of a drop that everyone likes to make it out to be. The Vikes were 6-8 going into the final weeks of the season, and Childress handed the team over to rookie Tarvaris Jackson for the last two weeks to see what they had. If Brad Johnson starts against the Packers, it is well within the realm of possibility that the Vikes win that game (they only lost 9-7). The Vikes likely lose week 17 regardless, as the Rams smoked the Vikes, so realistically, the Vikes were only two games worse in the win column. Childress took a team over that had a bare cupboard as far as offensive talent goes. They bring in a new offense, a new defense, and have to rebuild the roster. It's not as simple as you make it.Now, I'm not a huge Childress fan, so I'm not saying he deserves the extension. Personally, I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship to deserve an extension. If he doesn't get there this year, he might as well find a new job, in my book.
How many Asst Coaches have they added since Red left?How much have they spent improving the facilities at Winter Park since Red left?2006 - FA Hutchinson* -Leber -Longwell -Taylor D Greenway-Griffin-Edwards2007 - FA Shiancoe D Peterson*- Rice2008 - FA Allen* -Berrian - MWilliamsAm I missing anyone? B.Childress + 3 years + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent = 1 game improvement. It's Zygi's $. In my opinion it would be better spent on someone else.
The Tice going 9-7 argument is one of the stupidest arguments out there. The Vikings had the EASIEST strength of schedule in 2005 and only managed 9 wins. If that team were really any good, they would've been pushing for home field advantage in the playoffs, but instead they didn't even make the playoffs. The Tice Vikings were an embarrassment both on and off the field(love boat anyone?) Childress was supposed to come in and improve the talent on the field and take care of the off-field problems. He's done both and despite some poor game management, this team is one of the best in the league now. He deserves an extension.
 
TeamDingo said:
Bull Dozier said:
TeamDingo said:
Titus Pullo said:
b) they've improved each year under Childress
This one always cracks me up.2005 9-7 M.Tice

2006 6-10 B.Childress + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent

2007 8-8

2008 10-6
It's really not that huge of a drop that everyone likes to make it out to be. The Vikes were 6-8 going into the final weeks of the season, and Childress handed the team over to rookie Tarvaris Jackson for the last two weeks to see what they had. If Brad Johnson starts against the Packers, it is well within the realm of possibility that the Vikes win that game (they only lost 9-7). The Vikes likely lose week 17 regardless, as the Rams smoked the Vikes, so realistically, the Vikes were only two games worse in the win column. Childress took a team over that had a bare cupboard as far as offensive talent goes. They bring in a new offense, a new defense, and have to rebuild the roster. It's not as simple as you make it.Now, I'm not a huge Childress fan, so I'm not saying he deserves the extension. Personally, I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship to deserve an extension. If he doesn't get there this year, he might as well find a new job, in my book.
How many Asst Coaches have they added since Red left?How much have they spent improving the facilities at Winter Park since Red left?

2006 - FA Hutchinson* -Leber -Longwell -Taylor D Greenway-Griffin-Edwards

2007 - FA Shiancoe D Peterson*- Rice

2008 - FA Allen* -Berrian - MWilliams

Am I missing anyone? B.Childress + 3 years + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent = 1 game improvement. It's Zygi's $. In my opinion it would be better spent on someone else.
The Tice going 9-7 argument is one of the stupidest arguments out there. The Vikings had the EASIEST strength of schedule in 2005 and only managed 9 wins. If that team were really any good, they would've been pushing for home field advantage in the playoffs, but instead they didn't even make the playoffs. The Tice Vikings were an embarrassment both on and off the field(love boat anyone?) Childress was supposed to come in and improve the talent on the field and take care of the off-field problems. He's done both and despite some poor game management, this team is one of the best in the league now. He deserves an extension.
I was RIGHT WITH YOU until the bolded. Let him win a playoff game or 3 first, otherwise all the hard work hasn't gotten any actual results.
 
John 14:6 said:
Bull Dozier said:
Now, I'm not a huge Childress fan, so I'm not saying he deserves the extension. Personally, I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship to deserve an extension. If he doesn't get there this year, he might as well find a new job, in my book.
I'm with you.I'd like to see Bill Cowher coach this team. His Steelers were great at using multi-talented players in different ways (Kordell, Ward, Randle-El). Imagine what he could do with Percy Harvin...
Cowher had flaws of his own, one being playing Kordell Stewart at the QB position for too long when it was clear that Stewart was not suited for being the QB anymore.
 
TeamDingo said:
Bull Dozier said:
TeamDingo said:
Titus Pullo said:
b) they've improved each year under Childress
This one always cracks me up.2005 9-7 M.Tice2006 6-10 B.Childress + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent2007 8-82008 10-6
It's really not that huge of a drop that everyone likes to make it out to be. The Vikes were 6-8 going into the final weeks of the season, and Childress handed the team over to rookie Tarvaris Jackson for the last two weeks to see what they had. If Brad Johnson starts against the Packers, it is well within the realm of possibility that the Vikes win that game (they only lost 9-7). The Vikes likely lose week 17 regardless, as the Rams smoked the Vikes, so realistically, the Vikes were only two games worse in the win column. Childress took a team over that had a bare cupboard as far as offensive talent goes. They bring in a new offense, a new defense, and have to rebuild the roster. It's not as simple as you make it.Now, I'm not a huge Childress fan, so I'm not saying he deserves the extension. Personally, I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship to deserve an extension. If he doesn't get there this year, he might as well find a new job, in my book.
How many Asst Coaches have they added since Red left?How much have they spent improving the facilities at Winter Park since Red left?2006 - FA Hutchinson* -Leber -Longwell -Taylor D Greenway-Griffin-Edwards2007 - FA Shiancoe D Peterson*- Rice2008 - FA Allen* -Berrian - MWilliamsAm I missing anyone? B.Childress + 3 years + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent = 1 game improvement. It's Zygi's $. In my opinion it would be better spent on someone else.
In my book you can't judge it yet. I think 4 years is a fair test. It's obviouly with the Vikings start that the team has continued to get better through the years. Why the short hook and why ignore 2009? They haven't lost yet, Favre apparently is doing exactly what Childress brought him here to do. Why keep harping on Tice's 9-7 record with his team that was out of control off the field?Look at the history of Super Bowl winning coaches. Every coach, since 1980, that won a Super Bowl made it to the conference championship with the team he won with in his first four seasons with that tea. Every one. Since 1980. That's proof enough for me.He has all the pieces now. If the Vikes make it to the CC, Childress can stay in my book. If he fails to do so, if he doesn't win in the post season, if the Vikes fall apart in the 2nd half, can him. If he makes it to the CC, he buys himself 3 more years as far as I'm concerned.
 
TeamDingo said:
Bull Dozier said:
TeamDingo said:
Titus Pullo said:
b) they've improved each year under Childress
This one always cracks me up.2005 9-7 M.Tice

2006 6-10 B.Childress + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent

2007 8-8

2008 10-6
It's really not that huge of a drop that everyone likes to make it out to be. The Vikes were 6-8 going into the final weeks of the season, and Childress handed the team over to rookie Tarvaris Jackson for the last two weeks to see what they had. If Brad Johnson starts against the Packers, it is well within the realm of possibility that the Vikes win that game (they only lost 9-7). The Vikes likely lose week 17 regardless, as the Rams smoked the Vikes, so realistically, the Vikes were only two games worse in the win column. Childress took a team over that had a bare cupboard as far as offensive talent goes. They bring in a new offense, a new defense, and have to rebuild the roster. It's not as simple as you make it.Now, I'm not a huge Childress fan, so I'm not saying he deserves the extension. Personally, I think he needs to get to the NFC Championship to deserve an extension. If he doesn't get there this year, he might as well find a new job, in my book.
How many Asst Coaches have they added since Red left?How much have they spent improving the facilities at Winter Park since Red left?

2006 - FA Hutchinson* -Leber -Longwell -Taylor D Greenway-Griffin-Edwards

2007 - FA Shiancoe D Peterson*- Rice

2008 - FA Allen* -Berrian - MWilliams

Am I missing anyone? B.Childress + 3 years + huge infusion in money spent by ownership and talent = 1 game improvement. It's Zygi's $. In my opinion it would be better spent on someone else.
The Tice going 9-7 argument is one of the stupidest arguments out there. The Vikings had the EASIEST strength of schedule in 2005 and only managed 9 wins. If that team were really any good, they would've been pushing for home field advantage in the playoffs, but instead they didn't even make the playoffs. The Tice Vikings were an embarrassment both on and off the field(love boat anyone?) Childress was supposed to come in and improve the talent on the field and take care of the off-field problems. He's done both and despite some poor game management, this team is one of the best in the league now. He deserves an extension.
:lmao:
 
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I stand behind my original post (#1). Childress is a fool and you can see him doing the same things he did last year that cost the team wins, only this year doing it with Favre. Plenty of times there have been 1st and goal and Favre has been given free reign to throw to the endzone without giving Peterson a chance. It has worked so far but it (his play calling) WILL come back to haunt this team.

If I'm Childress I'm dying to get a new contract because:

1. What happens if Favre slows down in the second half like he has the past couple of years?

2. Favre doesn't come back next year.

Take Favre away from this team and they are 4-2 at BEST, probably 3-3. If I'm Childress I'm getting my money while I can. If I were the owners I would wait until after the season and try to make a deal after you see how the season works out. Lets just say they go 12-4 and lose in the 1st round of the playoffs and Favre doesn't come back next year. I wouldn't bee too excited to have Childress back.

 
THIS NEEDS TO BE BUMPED. THE GAME WAS JUST LOST RIGHT THERE.

1st and goal from the 1 foot line and you aren't running 3 or 4 times with THE BEST RB in football?

You my friend are an idiot!

 
THIS NEEDS TO BE BUMPED. THE GAME WAS JUST LOST RIGHT THERE.1st and goal from the 1 foot line and you aren't running 3 or 4 times with THE BEST RB in football?You my friend are an idiot!
I hate when coaches try to show how smart they are.Sometimes the obvious solution is the obvious solution because is the best solution.
 
BusterTBronco said:
They ran ADP twice in a row and he got stuffed both times.
No they didn't. They ran him 1st and goal from the 1. He was stuffed. 2nd and goal was an incomplete pass, 3rd and goal was an incomplete pass. 4th down field goal.
 
BusterTBronco said:
BusterTBronco said:
They ran ADP twice in a row and he got stuffed both times.
No they didn't. They ran him 1st and goal from the 1. He was stuffed. 2nd and goal was an incomplete pass, 3rd and goal was an incomplete pass. 4th down field goal.
They ran in twice in a row. First time he got stuffed for -1 yards but there was a penalty on the Steelers D.
Sorry didn't see that. What I did see however was a coach throw the ball twice from the 1 when they have the best back in football. That series of calls will cost them the game.Watch the post game shows, there's a reason most commentators will reference that series and question the coaching.
 
I just love it when fantasy-obsessed people call for the firing of a coach whose team is 6-0 and still has a very viable chance of winning against a quality opponent to go 7-0.

Brilliant.

 
Peterson just proves that he is capable of catching a pass, he is after all the best player in the NFL.

They get into a position where they score they win and Childress decides to take out the most dynamic player in the game!!

NICE MOVE DUMMY!

That freak (ADP) just got you down into scoring position and you take him out??

This loss iis the first of the season that is totally on Childress for his piss poor play calling!

Many more to come.

 
Inexcusable play calling today. The coaching staff, and Favre, did everything possible to prevent their team from WINNING. Two chances to tie the game with a FG late, and both times they call risky pass plys that result in pick six. I'm flabbergasted they did it a second time.

The Minnesota Defense and Adrian Peterson have to on the verge of a mutiny right now.

 
I just love it when fantasy-obsessed people call for the firing of a coach whose team is 6-0 and still has a very viable chance of winning against a quality opponent to go 7-0. Brilliant.
How about NOT fantasy obsessed, just a Minn fan who is sick and tired of watching this coach try to outsmart everyone. this team was NOT 6-0 because of Childress. they were 6-0 dispite him. There's a big difference.Can you really come up with a reason to take out the most dynamic pplayer in the game when the game is on the line??He just ran over a defense man to get you into scoring position and is pumped, so now you take the ball out of his hands. Nice coaching!
 
I just love it when fantasy-obsessed people call for the firing of a coach whose team is 6-0 and still has a very viable chance of winning against a quality opponent to go 7-0. Brilliant.
The team is ridiculously talented on both sides of the ball at about every position.Winning is winning, but I don't see Childress and his staff getting the best out of their team. It's hard to fire a coach that is winning but I just think they can do a lot better than the staff they have now.
 
Inexcusable play calling today. The coaching staff, and Favre, did everything possible to prevent their team from WINNING. Two chances to tie the game with a FG late, and both times they call risky pass plys that result in pick six. I'm flabbergasted they did it a second time. The Minnesota Defense and Adrian Peterson have to on the verge of a mutiny right now.
Favre played really well today IMO. If you are referencing his fumble and interception, neither was his fault. Favre had them in position to win multiple times late in the game. A bad officiating call, his fumble as the result of a pass blocking breakdown, and an interception that should have been a catch by Taylor lost it.
 
Inexcusable play calling today. The coaching staff, and Favre, did everything possible to prevent their team from WINNING. Two chances to tie the game with a FG late, and both times they call risky pass plys that result in pick six. I'm flabbergasted they did it a second time. The Minnesota Defense and Adrian Peterson have to on the verge of a mutiny right now.
Favre played really well today IMO. If you are referencing his fumble and interception, neither was his fault. Favre had them in position to win multiple times late in the game. A bad officiating call, his fumble as the result of a pass blocking breakdown, and an interception that should have been a catch by Taylor lost it.
Let's not forget it is absurd to suggest that the team should have run it straight ahead until they hit 4th down and then kicked a FG. That sort of playcalling would be bemoaned as that idiot Childress trying to outsmart himself out of a win. You just can't please some people.
 
Inexcusable play calling today. The coaching staff, and Favre, did everything possible to prevent their team from WINNING. Two chances to tie the game with a FG late, and both times they call risky pass plys that result in pick six. I'm flabbergasted they did it a second time. The Minnesota Defense and Adrian Peterson have to on the verge of a mutiny right now.
Favre played really well today IMO. If you are referencing his fumble and interception, neither was his fault. Favre had them in position to win multiple times late in the game. A bad officiating call, his fumble as the result of a pass blocking breakdown, and an interception that should have been a catch by Taylor lost it.
No, No and No. Both plays were his fault. Your number one job as a QB at that stage of the game - in the red zone where a chip shot FG ties the game - is NOT to turn the ball over. No excuses.
 
Inexcusable play calling today. The coaching staff, and Favre, did everything possible to prevent their team from WINNING. Two chances to tie the game with a FG late, and both times they call risky pass plys that result in pick six. I'm flabbergasted they did it a second time. The Minnesota Defense and Adrian Peterson have to on the verge of a mutiny right now.
Favre played really well today IMO. If you are referencing his fumble and interception, neither was his fault. Favre had them in position to win multiple times late in the game. A bad officiating call, his fumble as the result of a pass blocking breakdown, and an interception that should have been a catch by Taylor lost it.
No, No and No. Both plays were his fault. Your number one job as a QB at that stage of the game - in the red zone where a chip shot FG ties the game - is NOT to turn the ball over. No excuses.
Are you disputing that he threw a TD that was called back by a bad call? Your three nos appear to be disputing each of the three things I listed.If you blame Favre for the interception, then you are really just saying the playcalling should have been to run there... and that isn't Favre's decision. Favre hit Taylor in the hands with the pass, and it was very clear Taylor took his eyes off the ball... Favre can't catch it for him. No way that one is Favre's fault.I think the fumble is debatable, though the guy who stripped came from behind Favre. The only real issue one could have is that he should have gotten rid of the ball faster, but it didn't seem like he really held it too long... seemed to me that it was more a combination of the pass blocking breaking down and a great play by the defense.The worst thing Favre did was his lackluster effort at making the tackle on both defensive TD returns.But I see from your other thread that you have an agenda here in ripping Favre, so it's probably pointless to keep discussing it.
 
Inexcusable play calling today. The coaching staff, and Favre, did everything possible to prevent their team from WINNING. Two chances to tie the game with a FG late, and both times they call risky pass plys that result in pick six. I'm flabbergasted they did it a second time. The Minnesota Defense and Adrian Peterson have to on the verge of a mutiny right now.
Favre played really well today IMO. If you are referencing his fumble and interception, neither was his fault. Favre had them in position to win multiple times late in the game. A bad officiating call, his fumble as the result of a pass blocking breakdown, and an interception that should have been a catch by Taylor lost it.
I agree 100%. You can't have that many plays called back and expect Favre to beat the Pittsburgh defense multiple times.
 
Jesus people, have a little perspective. It was a tough game against a tough opponent in a hostile environment. The Vikings played a good game and they came prepared. I thought Pitt was gonna pass all over the Vikings based on last week and losing Winfield, but they did a great job in the secondary against a very good passing team. Credit coaching for bringing them prepared. Then, after having a tough go at it in the first half, the coaches made some excellent adjustments in the second half and they basically moved the ball at will in the second half. Give the credit to Pitt's D making two big plays. (Vikings homerism: and the poor reffing)

This game was not lost by Childress in any way. Sure I thought they should've tried pounding the run from the 1 a few more times, but they've been passing very effectively from there all year long, so it's not surprising for them to try it again. This team is playing with passion and hustle. I don't want them playing for a tie at the end. If they had, then I'd be #####ing about the play calling. I'm glad they were aggressive at the end of the game. I want to see them going for the win and not accepting a chance at overtime.

 
BusterTBronco said:
BusterTBronco said:
They ran ADP twice in a row and he got stuffed both times.
No they didn't. They ran him 1st and goal from the 1. He was stuffed. 2nd and goal was an incomplete pass, 3rd and goal was an incomplete pass. 4th down field goal.
They ran in twice in a row. First time he got stuffed for -1 yards but there was a penalty on the Steelers D.
Sorry didn't see that. What I did see however was a coach throw the ball twice from the 1 when they have the best back in football. That series of calls will cost them the game.Watch the post game shows, there's a reason most commentators will reference that series and question the coaching.
I'm glad somebody posted this. Huge screw up by Childress. If you're a championship caliber team, you hammer home a TD with Peterson on 1st and goal from the 1. Quit trying to get cute. Also, on the 1st defensive TD by the Steelers I'm baffled why Tahi was in the game? It was 3rd and goal from the 8. At the very least, he absolutely has to stay in for pass protection. But no, they send on out on his patented route to the line of scrimmage, because when they do dump it to him Tahi's elite RAC skills typically result in a 0 yard gain. It's beyond idiotic. That game was there for the taking, and its little decisions like these by Childress that leave me convinced that he still isn't an NFL ready head coach.
 
I've got no horse in this race as I am a Denver homer and the only morning game on (In Portland) was the PITT/VIKES game (not complaining) but that was some piss poor coaching/play calling by Childress at the goal line.

Yes - Its the PITT D

and YES

APD scored earlier

but

If you cant run it down their throats with the best back in football (like he did earlier) form the one freaking yard line and four downs then you deserve to lose

and that's just what happened....

and all I could think about is that is what Shanahan always did in his later years with the Broncos...tried to out-think and out "cute" the other team

Terrible play calling

 
terrible play calling at the goal line.

don't take the best player in the game out of the game just because you have a 'third-down back.' 4 catches for 60 yards. peterson has shown he can catch the ball. get the ball in the hands of your best player. that's all.

 
Completely agree on the play calling at the goal line when it was first and goal at the 1.

That said, there was a 14 point swing in this game when a TD throw to Rice was negated by a pretty weak tripping call on the MN offensive line and then Pitt took a fumble to the house a play or two later.

 
I'm glad somebody posted this. Huge screw up by Childress. If you're a championship caliber team, you hammer home a TD with Peterson on 1st and goal from the 1. Quit trying to get cute.

Also, on the 1st defensive TD by the Steelers I'm baffled why Tahi was in the game? It was 3rd and goal from the 8. At the very least, he absolutely has to stay in for pass protection. But no, they send on out on his patented route to the line of scrimmage, because when they do dump it to him Tahi's elite RAC skills typically result in a 0 yard gain. It's beyond idiotic. That game was there for the taking, and its little decisions like these by Childress that leave me convinced that he still isn't an NFL ready head coach.
Quoting myself, because in addition to the above questionable decisions I myself forgot to add the most egregious that was literally the icing on the cake to end the day. There's 13 seconds left in the game and you're down by 10. You've just completed a pass down to the Pittsburg 36 yard line. What's the ONLY POSSIBLE WAY you can send this game to overtime? If you answered "throw a short pass to Adrian Peterson," well then you may just have a place on Coach Childress' staff. It would be an extremely unlikely series of events, but at least you have a chance by doing what any casual fan could figure out at that point:

- Kick the 53 yard field goal (likely takes 4-5 seconds off the clock)

- Now you've got 8 seconds left, a few of which are burned on an onside kick recovery

- A recovery gives you a shot at a hail mary and at least a chance to tie the game

Even if Favre goes to the end zone for a TD on that play from the 36 with 13 seconds left, and assuming there's even 4-5 seconds left at that point...if you recover the onside kick you're still not in FG range, so you're attempting another hail mary anyways.

The guy is a dunce, and the fact that the Vikes finally have a relatively competent quarterback is only masking that fact.

 
I thought Pitt was gonna pass all over the Vikings based on last week and losing Winfield, but they did a great job in the secondary against a very good passing team. Credit coaching for bringing them prepared.
They looked poorly coached in the 2-minute drill when Ben got 90 yards in like a minute.The resulting field goal wasn't a gamebreaker but it's the sort of thing people forget in games like this.
 
I've got no horse in this race as I am a Denver homer and the only morning game on (In Portland) was the PITT/VIKES game (not complaining) but that was some piss poor coaching/play calling by Childress at the goal line.Yes - Its the PITT Dand YESAPD scored earlierbutIf you cant run it down their throats with the best back in football (like he did earlier) form the one freaking yard line and four downs then you deserve to loseand that's just what happened....and all I could think about is that is what Shanahan always did in his later years with the Broncos...tried to out-think and out "cute" the other teamTerrible play calling
:tinfoilhat: I think Childress lost site that Farve is able to do what he does b/c of a great oline and LB's respecting ADP. He is the best chance for Minny to win and to not run him at the one yard line sent a bad message to the Vikes oline/team. Taking him out in order to get Chester in on a passing play, well, once again he just does not seem to get it. 18 carries in that big of a game is simply poor play calling. I know there was a lot of talk about poor officiating, but that loss was on Childress and the play calling, plain and simple.
 
The guy is a dunce, and the fact that the Vikes finally have a relatively competent quarterback is only masking that fact.
That's the problem, and it's beyond just the competent quarterback.The Vikings have assembled such a talented team that they will win a bunch despite of Childress which will:

1. Reinforce to Childress that his terrible play calling are the right calls.

2. Likely get Childress an extension.

 
I just love it when fantasy-obsessed people call for the firing of a coach whose team is 6-0 and still has a very viable chance of winning against a quality opponent to go 7-0. Brilliant.
How about NOT fantasy obsessed, just a Minn fan who is sick and tired of watching this coach try to outsmart everyone. this team was NOT 6-0 because of Childress. they were 6-0 dispite him. There's a big difference.Can you really come up with a reason to take out the most dynamic pplayer in the game when the game is on the line??He just ran over a defense man to get you into scoring position and is pumped, so now you take the ball out of his hands. Nice coaching!
I think you are missing the real issue. They ran twice and got stuffed twice. Once was called back by penalty. So throwing was not the issue, the issue was not going for it on 4th down.That being said, I believe they throw too much at the goal line, but I am a ADP owner and may be bias
 
I just love it when fantasy-obsessed people call for the firing of a coach whose team is 6-0 and still has a very viable chance of winning against a quality opponent to go 7-0.

Brilliant.
How about NOT fantasy obsessed, just a Minn fan who is sick and tired of watching this coach try to outsmart everyone. this team was NOT 6-0 because of Childress. they were 6-0 dispite him. There's a big difference.Can you really come up with a reason to take out the most dynamic pplayer in the game when the game is on the line??

He just ran over a defense man to get you into scoring position and is pumped, so now you take the ball out of his hands. Nice coaching!
I think you are missing the real issue. They ran twice and got stuffed twice. Once was called back by penalty. So throwing was not the issue, the issue was not going for it on 4th down.That being said, I believe they throw too much at the goal line, but I am a ADP owner and may be bias
DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS DRIVE:Minnesota Vikings at 10:59 4th Quarter

1-10-MIN35 (10:59) B.Favre pass short right to S.Rice to MIN 44 for 9 yards (I.Taylor).

2-1-MIN44 (10:29) A.Peterson up the middle to MIN 46 for 2 yards (C.Hampton; L.Timmons).

1-10-MIN46 (9:53) B.Favre pass short right to N.Tahi to MIN 44 for -2 yards (L.Timmons). Pressure by #56 Woodley.

2-12-MIN44 (9:13) B.Favre pass short right to S.Rice ran ob at MIN 49 for 5 yards.

3-7-MIN49 (8:42) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass short left to P.Harvin to PIT 44 for 7 yards (I.Taylor; J.Farrior). Penalty on PIT-L.Timmons, Defensive Offside, declined.

1-10-PIT44 (8:11) B.Favre pass short left to G.Lewis to PIT 44 for no gain (W.Gay).

2-10-PIT44 (7:32) B.Favre pass incomplete short right to C.Taylor (L.Woodley) [L.Woodley].

3-10-PIT44 (7:28) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass short left to J.Johnson to PIT 35 for 9 yards (R.Clark).

4-1-PIT35 (6:47) B.Favre pass short middle to S.Rice to PIT 1 for 34 yards (T.Polamalu).

1-1-PIT1 (6:07) A.Peterson left tackle to PIT 2 for -1 yards (J.Harrison, L.Timmons).

PENALTY on PIT-C.Hampton, Defensive Offside, 0 yards, enforced at PIT 1 - No Play.

1-1-PIT1 (5:41) A.Peterson up the middle to PIT 1 for no gain (K.Fox, J.Farrior).

2-1-PIT1 (4:59) B.Favre pass incomplete short middle to S.Rice. Coverage by #57 Fox, #51 Farrior.

3-1-PIT1 (4:52) B.Favre pass incomplete short middle to J.Kleinsasser [J.Harrison]. Coverage by #51 Farrior.

4-1-PIT1 (4:47) (Field Goal formation) R.Longwell 18 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-C.Loeffler, Holder-C.Kluwe.

WHAT ABOUT THIS DRIVE BEFORE THE HALF:

Minnesota Vikings at 10:34 2nd Quarter

1-10-PIT21 (7:23) B.Favre pass incomplete short left to B.Berrian. Coverage by #22 Gay.

2-10-PIT21 (7:19) (Shotgun) B.Favre pass short right to V.Shiancoe to PIT 12 for 9 yards (J.Farrior).

3-1-PIT12 (6:41) A.Peterson left guard to PIT 3 for 9 yards (R.Clark, W.Gay).

1-3-PIT3 (6:05) A.Peterson left guard to PIT 2 for 1 yard (J.Farrior, C.Hoke).

2-2-PIT2 (5:22) B.Favre pass incomplete short middle to N.Tahi. Pressure by #93 Eason, #76 Hoke; Coverage by #51 Farrior.

3-2-PIT2 (5:17) A.Peterson left guard for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN. MIN-N.Tahi was injured during the play.

Maybe Childress should have followed the same pattern of plays calls as was called the drive before the half. ADP was basically untouched on 3rd and Goal at the 1 just before the half. :thumbup:

 
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