Why FBGs so down on Mark Ingram Week One? (1 Viewer)

[Maurile Tremblay]

He's a massive bust because of Sproles. Forget fantasy, Sproles is a helluva player and has been forever. Why SD let him go?

They should have franchised him a third time.

 

[rzrback77]

I realize that not all leagues ar ppr, but it has to be concerning for Ingram ownerss that on a night when Drew Brees passed for over 400 yards, Mark Ingram had not even one target. I also know that Green Bay has an awesome defense and Mr. Raji is prime beef in the middle affecting the other team's rushing game, but the Saints will have these type of games where they need to throw for 400 yards and both Thomas and Sproles are both much better in the passing game. Brees did not even have Moore who was always highly targeted when Bush went missing.

The bright spot was that he had 62% of the rushing attempts, but that amounted to only 13 touches and as others have said those 13 featured many where he simply appeared to run into the pile. That pile though often included Raji and not all teams have that type of force opposing the offensive line.

 

[Sabertooth]

I'm reserving judgment on Ingram. They run into a buzzsaw just like Pittsburgh did in the Super Bowl. Mendenhall only has 15 touches in a very similar situation.

 

[hotdogcollars]

As an Ingram owner in a Keeper league, i'm mostly concerned with the fact that Ingram doesnt seem to fit the Saints style of O. Why draft a RB that you won't throw to? Or even have in the game on a down when there's even a chance of a pass?

Put Ingram on a team like the Jets, Dolphins, Redskins (Shanny), or even Falcons and i think he shines as a 20-25 cpg feature back. Put him in the Saints O and give him 10-15 touches per game and i'm regretting my early rd pick already

 

[GroveDiesel]

He's a massive bust because of Sproles. Forget fantasy, Sproles is a helluva player and has been forever. Why SD let him go?

They should have franchised him a third time.

Or, you know, offer him a similar deal to what the Saints offered him.

 

[glong989]

It's one game. If it's one thing you learn in fantasy after years of playing it's that one game means nothing.

A shortened camp for rookies coupled with the best 3rd down back and an experienced pass catcher in Thomas and why would you trot him out there in the passing game day 1? Yes, I do own Ingram in one League so I want to see him succeed, but he was getting goal line work and had the bulk of the carries. They wont always be in games where Brees is having to move them up and down the field ie needs experienced pass protection so I'm not too worried yet - he will be fine.

 

[FantasyTrader]

There's some subtle factors at play here which have me actually very encouraged for Ingram's value. In Payton's post-game conference, when asked about the final play of the game, he referred to Ingram as "our goal line guy". And (at lease that I know of) this is the first I've ever heard confirmation of that straight from the horse's mouth. The Saints figure to spend a L-O-T of time near the goal line this year and it won't always be the Packers on the other side.

As for the use of Sproles - I'll admit that he looked electric last night, but I have a hunch his stats were more meta-game than anything the Saints will be looking to do on a weekly basis. The Packers are one of the few offenses in the league who are good enough to jump out on the Saints and make them play catch up all game. Ingram/Thomas will be running out PLENTY of 4th quarter clocks this year.

 

[Rick James]

Honestly, I'm not worried about last night at all.

1) 13 carries

2) 60% workload

3) goal-line touches

I'm good.

 

[shader]

As an Ingram owner in a Keeper league, i'm mostly concerned with the fact that Ingram doesnt seem to fit the Saints style of O. Why draft a RB that you won't throw to? Or even have in the game on a down when there's even a chance of a pass?Put Ingram on a team like the Jets, Dolphins, Redskins (Shanny), or even Falcons and i think he shines as a 20-25 cpg feature back. Put him in the Saints O and give him 10-15 touches per game and i'm regretting my early rd pick already

Honestly, Payton wants to be able to show any type of "look" at any time. The concern I have is that he seems to telegraph what type of play it's going to be based on what RB is in the game. If Sproles is in the game, he is frequently the target. If Ingram is in the game, it seems like a run is coming most of the time. That being said, it's doubtful that New Orleans will play a team like Green Bay again this year. It's a horrible mix for a guy like Ingram. First of all, Green Bay scores tons of points and New Orleans needed to play catchup. And 2nd, Green Bay is very stout against the run, which keeps New Orleans from being able to control the clock. I'll revise my projections to 1100 yards and 12 tds, down from 15. 15 was probably a stretch, and judging from the way they used Sproles and also the poor run-blocking in short yardage situations, it makes me a little bit nervous for 2011.But Ingram is a proto-typical RB. Wow, what a talent.

 

[ppierce]

I have a feeling that they drafted Ingram to be guy line type guy and a closer when they are up big, which they should be more often then not this year. I don't think this was his type of game.

 

[Jason Wood]

Ingram looked great to me. Let's not forget they were up against an awesome rush defense last night.

 

[Late225]

They want to have a more balanced offense. It's hard to do that when you're down 14 after five minutes of play.

 

[Insein]

They want to have a more balanced offense. It's hard to do that when you're down 14 after five minutes of play.

That should be the fear. I'm not big on Ingram but you can't put his poor stats on him last night. Saints D will be his biggest opponent this year.

 

[Raider Nation]

Skimming the lists very briefly while at work, I had two major problems with the W1 rankings, and I'm confident my hunches are correct.

Without giving too much subscriber content away...

1) Mathews and Tolbert are ranked too closely. Mathews will have the better day, and I suspect he'll have the MUCH better day.

2) Ryan Fitzpatrick is ranked waaaay too low.

That is all.

Prediction #1 = ... Mathews had a fine day but Tolbert still killed him points-wise.Prediction #2 = ... 17-25 for 208 + 4 TDs. Great late-round value for his believers.