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Ahh, what short memories we have......
The talent is there, the health has not been.Not sure what Best has to do with this(?)
Best is relevant here because he is in a very similar situation..A guy who was hurt last season and his backup who was thought to take carries away this year goes down for the season. Difference is Best flashed great talent in a few games last season and is now moving up the rankings (also has a better offense on paper). Wells has looked alright but nothing spectacular so his stock is rising but not exponentially. Neither has shown the ability to stay healthy and produce over extended stretches of games..
Yes. The problem is, it's gotten to the point where many "experts" are like politicians. In today's day and age of rankings proliferation, they often check to see what all the other "experts" are doing, in terms of rankings before "updating" their's. Thus you end up with "status quo rankings" - with few thinking outside the box enough to see forward moving trends. Also, while many that rank players are famous for saying things like "you can't project injury" - many do (or at least assume it). Once a player gets an "injury risk" tag it's tough to shake (see Fred Taylor for examples).Interestingly, almost the opposite happens with rookies at this time a year - they tend to enter everyone's rankings a little too high (because in TC and preseason, we've heard/seen them and "forgotten" the older vets who may not run the 40 quite as fast but know how to play the game and are thus used by their coaches once the regular season starts).I was surprised to see Wells still ranked about the 30th RB. He has virtually zero competition in the Cards backfield right now. If Wells projects to be the workhorse back and get goal line carries, shouldn't he be in the top 15-20 RBs? Is one of the unknowns on the Arizona roster expected to get the goal line carries? If so, who?
I see what you're saying but I think we disagree. I see the knock on Wells as mostly durability (and to an extent, fumblitis) rather than ability.
Should I post that highlight video again?
Beanie Wells fumbles lost in 2010 -- 0 (1 fumble total)
Ahhh...reality vs. perception.
On one side they had Kurt "All-World-Passer" Warner at QB with Larry "the best WR in the league" Fitzgerald + Bolden...high octain passing game that was WAY out of balance toward the pass....leaving some open running lanes but few opportunities. Warner retires, and the SUCK happened. No threat of a passing game, stack the box, no holes, horrible production. Fast forward to now, they sign Kolb (Matt Cassell-esque----not all world, not all suck). I think we have to clear the slate and see what Beanie can do in an offense that will have to be balanced as Kolb isn't Peyton/Brady/Rodgers.....and Beanie isn't ADP/CJ3.Jury is out in my mind, but the potential to crawl out of the SUCK is very much there. As a Williams owner...it's been painful.
I agree he should be moving up but he still hasn't proven he can be an every down back. I would rather take Wells in the 4th/5th round instead of taking someone like Bradshaw in the 2nd/3rd.
Rk Player Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Att Yds Y/A TD Y/G13 Jerome Bettis 1994 22 1-10 RAM NFL 16 16 319 1025 3.21 3 64.120 Thomas Jones 2000 22 1-7 ARI NFL 14 4 112 373 3.33 2 26.625 Chris Wells 2010 22 1-31 ARI NFL 13 2 116 397 3.42 2 30.526 Darren McFadden 2009 22 1-4 OAK NFL 12 7 104 357 3.43 1 29.831 Ricky Williams 1999 22 1-5 NOR NFL 12 12 253 884 3.49 2 73.733 Dalton Hilliard 1986 22 2-31 NOR NFL 16 5 121 425 3.51 5 26.642 Karim Abdul-Jabbar 1996 22 3-80 MIA NFL 16 14 307 1116 3.64 11 69.843 LaDainian Tomlinson 2001 22 1-5 SDG NFL 16 16 339 1236 3.65 10 77.344 Charlie Garner 1994 22 2-42 PHI NFL 10 8 109 399 3.66 3 39.949 Marshall Faulk* 1995 22 1-2 IND NFL 16 16 289 1078 3.73 11 67.453 Tiki Barber 1997 22 2-36 NYG NFL 12 6 136 511 3.76 3 42.659 O.J. Simpson* 1969 22 1-1 BUF AFL 13 0 181 697 3.85 2 53.6
His point about short term memories is valid.Heading into last year Beanie was viewed as a guy with immense talent who looked fantastic in his rookie year but was in a bad situation.The situation is now much better, but he plays one year while hurting and suddenly there's this notion that he hasn't looked good. I'm sorry, but not only did pre-injury Beanie look every bit as good as pre-injury Best, but he looked better and did it for longer. Best basically had one big screen pass to get everyone to go gaga over him. In his other two games prior to getting hurt he averanged 1.4ypc in week 1 and scored twice through gaping holes that my deceased grandmother could have scored through, and 3.6 yards in week 3.How quickly we all forget that the most used term that floated around to describe Beanie after his rookie year was "man among boys".It's all based on their post-draft perceptions. For the most part Beanie was looked down upon around here heading into his rookie year, so even with a rookie season where he looked great people were quick to jump on the "aha, see he really does suck!" bandwagon when looked bad while playing hurt.Best, on the other hand, was a FBG darling, to an extent I've almost never seen around here before. So of course when suffers the same fate as Beanie, only with a meager 1 game of looking good before getting hurt and playing poorly (as opposed to Beanie who did it for an entire season), people are quick to forgive him in order to vindicate the immense love that they gave him out of the gate.
+1. Average talent, average situation.Wells isn't gonna see the gaping holes saw when Warner/Boldin/Fitz were doing their thing.
I agree here though. He should be higher up in the 20s based on the fact that he has no competition at this point.I was surprised to see Wells still ranked about the 30th RB. He has virtually zero competition in the Cards backfield right now. If Wells projects to be the workhorse back and get goal line carries, shouldn't he be in the top 15-20 RBs? Is one of the unknowns on the Arizona roster expected to get the goal line carries? If so, who?
You lost me here.
Blount is already in a better situation and I don't see anybody calling him a Top 5 back.
People are already projecting Bount for 250+ carries, and (virtually) no one is calling him a top 5 back. You actually have some good points buried beneath the ridiculous rhetoric. Tone it down.
Not convinced of this at all.
A few things to keep in mind. First off, any RB that is brought in now will take time to learn the offense. Secondly, any WW RB brought in now will be nowhere near the ability level of Williams or Wells (if they were, they wouldn't be getting cut by their respective teams). Third, as a Bears fan watching Chester Taylor all last season and this preseason, if the Cardinals bring him in, he will be absolutely no threat to Wells - he will be a warm body to pick up 4-6 carries a game and pass block once in a great while. As far as Choice, I honestly don't think the Cowboys will cut him.
Concur. Choice is a perfectly acceptable replacement level back, but he is wholly unexceptional. He wouldn't take as much work from Wells as Williams would have.
Lonyae Miller?
I'll be the first to say that I havent watched every carry of his career but I have this pre-season and last season and he looks like #### to me...He doesnt seem to run with power for as big as he is and doesnt look to have much agility either...JMO
And that's the subjective part of the equation...okay to agree to disagree there. I see a back that finishes his runs, doesn't dance if there's a hole and has surprising wiggle for a back his size.'Couch Potato said:Yeah, that was kind of weird. No one can be a top-5 back that catches 10 passes a year, unless you think he's gonna get over 400 carries, and that's just not gonna happen.'Teef said:You lost me here.'Shutout said:
