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Why is there still racism with black qbs? (1 Viewer)

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Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.

Edited to add: I don't recall ever hearing black qbs compared to white qbs. Maybe once in a blue moon, but not very often.

Edited to add: Greg Russell made me realize that maybe racism is the wrong word to use in this context.

 
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Still happens with white WRs too. Nothing to see here.
True, but there are more slow white WRs than fast ones, but plenty of black QBs that are just as good as their white counterparts in every facet of the position. There's not too many fast white wrs.
 
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Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Brady vs. ManningBrees vs. RodgersStafford vs. BradfordMontana vs. MarinoFavre vs. ElwayYour right, they hardly ever cmpare white QBs. :yawn:
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Brady vs. ManningBrees vs. RodgersStafford vs. BradfordMontana vs. MarinoFavre vs. ElwayYour right, they hardly ever cmpare white QBs. :yawn:
I'll buy into the Brady vs Manning, but that's where it stops. I don't recall your other comparisions at all.
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Brady vs. ManningBrees vs. RodgersStafford vs. BradfordMontana vs. MarinoFavre vs. ElwayYour right, they hardly ever cmpare white QBs. :yawn:
I'll buy into the Brady vs Manning, but that's where it stops. I don't recall your other comparisions at all.
You're saying no one compares black QBs to white QBs.And no one compares white QBs to white QBs.So who are you saying they compare white QBs to? Mark Sanchez and Timmy Chang?
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Brady vs. ManningBrees vs. RodgersStafford vs. BradfordMontana vs. MarinoFavre vs. ElwayYour right, they hardly ever cmpare white QBs. :yawn:
I'll buy into the Brady vs Manning, but that's where it stops. I don't recall your other comparisions at all.
You're saying no one compares black QBs to white QBs.And no one compares white QBs to white QBs.So who are you saying they compare white QBs to? Mark Sanchez and Timmy Chang?
You never see white qbs compared to black qbs that I know of and very seldom hear of white qbs compared to other white qbs. Yes, you have the occasional comparison, but not at the same level that you have black qbs compared to each other.
 
Still happens with white WRs too. Nothing to see here.
True, but there are more slow white WRs than fast ones, but plenty of black QBs that are just as good as their white counterparts in every facet of the position. There's not too many fast white wrs.
But there you go doing the exact same thing. You're telling me that Wes Welker, Ed MaCaffrey and Eric Decker all fit the same mold. Get over yourself. Racism isn't about perception like the media and people like you want it to be. It's about opportunity. Last I checked, everybody has the same opportunity to succede in the NFL or anywhere for that matter. MLK would be offended that you are offended by this.
 
Google "Brandon Weeden comparison" and without going to even read each entire article returned, you find the following comparisons to white QBs in the first 20 hits:

Brandon Weeden: Comparing NFL Draft Pick to Carson Palmer ...

bleacherreport.com/.../1152624-brandon-weeden-comparing-nfl-dra...

1 day ago – Player Name: Brandon Weeden School: Oklahoma State Position: QB College football's stars of yesterday are ready to take the leap into the ...

Brandon weeden has limited mobility and can't throw when on the ...

www.thephinsider.com/.../brandon-weeden-has-limited-mobility-and...

Apr 8, 2012 – Brandon weeden has limited mobility and can't throw when on the run. Plus he needs ... You can't compare Weeden to Brady and Manning ...

Brandon Weeden Scout - The Football Fan Spot

www.footballfanspot.com/brandonweedenscout.htm

NFL Comparison: Jake Plummer. If Brandon Weeden were 22 or 23, I'd have a 2nd round grade or so on him. I'm tough on quarterbacks. Basically, I'd have him ...

Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com ...

www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272538

04/05/2012 - Brandon Weeden passed on a chance to attend the NFL draft in New ... Weeden also faces the inevitable comparisons to Chris Weinke, who at 28 ...

Picking Brandon Weeden at No. 22 is not too high - Browns ...

www.cleveland.com › Cleveland Browns › Browns

Apr 11, 2012 – Related topics: brandon weeden, Cleveland Browns .... For comparison, McCoy looked way better than this guy against college players, and at ..

Draft Winds: Breaking down Brandon Weeden's talent - Sun-Sentinel

weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/.../draft_winds_breaking_down_bran_1.ht...

Apr 3, 2012 – Or at least he had, until he coached Brandon Weeden at Oklahoma ..... Unfortunately, the only comparison is that of Chris Weinke of Florida ...
 
Still happens with white WRs too. Nothing to see here.
True, but there are more slow white WRs than fast ones, but plenty of black QBs that are just as good as their white counterparts in every facet of the position. There's not too many fast white wrs.
But there you go doing the exact same thing. You're telling me that Wes Welker, Ed MaCaffrey and Eric Decker all fit the same mold. Get over yourself. Racism isn't about perception like the media and people like you want it to be. It's about opportunity. Last I checked, everybody has the same opportunity to succede in the NFL or anywhere for that matter. MLK would be offended that you are offended by this.
I know thread like this make some people feel uncomfortable, I understand that, but the fact remains what I'm saying is true. I just thought we should be further past this by now, that is all.
 
Google "Brandon Weeden comparison" and without going to even read each entire article returned, you find the following comparisons to white QBs in the first 20 hits:

Brandon Weeden: Comparing NFL Draft Pick to Carson Palmer ...

bleacherreport.com/.../1152624-brandon-weeden-comparing-nfl-dra...

1 day ago – Player Name: Brandon Weeden School: Oklahoma State Position: QB College football's stars of yesterday are ready to take the leap into the ...

Brandon weeden has limited mobility and can't throw when on the ...

www.thephinsider.com/.../brandon-weeden-has-limited-mobility-and...

Apr 8, 2012 – Brandon weeden has limited mobility and can't throw when on the run. Plus he needs ... You can't compare Weeden to Brady and Manning ...

Brandon Weeden Scout - The Football Fan Spot

www.footballfanspot.com/brandonweedenscout.htm

NFL Comparison: Jake Plummer. If Brandon Weeden were 22 or 23, I'd have a 2nd round grade or so on him. I'm tough on quarterbacks. Basically, I'd have him ...

Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com ...

www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1272538

04/05/2012 - Brandon Weeden passed on a chance to attend the NFL draft in New ... Weeden also faces the inevitable comparisons to Chris Weinke, who at 28 ...

Picking Brandon Weeden at No. 22 is not too high - Browns ...

www.cleveland.com › Cleveland Browns › Browns

Apr 11, 2012 – Related topics: brandon weeden, Cleveland Browns .... For comparison, McCoy looked way better than this guy against college players, and at ..

Draft Winds: Breaking down Brandon Weeden's talent - Sun-Sentinel

weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/.../draft_winds_breaking_down_bran_1.ht...

Apr 3, 2012 – Or at least he had, until he coached Brandon Weeden at Oklahoma ..... Unfortunately, the only comparison is that of Chris Weinke of Florida ...
Of course you have fantasy sites put a comparison at the end of their snipits, but you don't hear comparisons very often in every day talk.
 
You never see white qbs compared to black qbs that I know of and very seldom hear of white qbs compared to other white qbs. Yes, you have the occasional comparison, but not at the same level that you have black qbs compared to each other.
So who are white QB's compared to then? :shrug:
 
I don't think this is as big a deal as you think it is.
Cam vs Vick and now RG3 vs Cam vs Vick. Just to name a few.
Who on earth could you compare Cam to athletically? Elway perhaps? Even then Cam has a size and speed that we haven't seen before.RG3 is in a class of his own as well. I compare him to Young, but he's got athleticism closer to Vick.
Fran Tarkenton was very athletic in his prime and Rodger Staubach was too early in his career. Bobby Douglas was very athletic and could run like crazy, but he was a pathetic passing QB.
 
I don't think this is as big a deal as you think it is.
Cam vs Vick and now RG3 vs Cam vs Vick. Just to name a few.
Well what white QB in the league that can run under a 4.6 40 like those 3 do you want these guys to be compared to?
Good point, but history tells us we're going to do this with black qbs whether they run fast or not. The same stereotype was applied to Donovan McNabb early in his career. The same could be said for Warren Moon, who was not a running QB.
 
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Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Their is a very interesting topic of discussion called 'shadow projecting'.Shadow projecting is when an individual or group of people project their own dark shadowns onto others.Classic examples are Nazi Germany projecting evils that they had within their own phyche upon whom they considered outside groups of people, Gypsies, Jews, Slavs, any who they felt were, physically, mentally or socially, inferior.The thing that is mentioned often but many do not grasp is that some of the top Nazi had Jewish blood and even insantity in their bloodlines that the sin of having mixed blood with undesireables may have been what motivated the greatest madmen in history including Hitler and his number two in charge Rienhard Heydrich who would have taken over if Hitler was killed. Heydrich was a quarter Jewish and he is the one who came up with the plan for the final solution. Hitler was part Jewish and had a historyy of insantity in his family and felt soo threatened by his Jewish past that he annialated his home town and put his mentally affected sister into hiding and eventually had her put to death. Nazi Germany is at the extreme end of shadow projection. In lessor ways we all do the same thing on smaller levels individually and as groups. That person looks shady, or those darn___ plug in any group you think are infereor to the group that you identify with.Their was a study done a few years ago with sports fanatics and the conclusions were interesting. They found that the most ardent sports fanatics suffered from low self esteeem and when they shouted and yelled and cursed other sports teams or the groups that followed those other teams that by cursing and shouting at others that the sports fanatics who suffered from low self esteem thought by bullying others into submission that it somehow would boost their low self esteem.Interesting eh? Bringing this back to limiting this to a loaded race quuestion. It could be that we all project our own individual evils onto others in order to make us feel better. Or maybe their really are evil guys out there just itching to get us with with racist comparisons. Probably not.
 
Coming soon ..........Aaron Rodgers to Robert Griffin III
Was gonna post the same thing. I think this is a great comparison, just don't see RGIII dropping in the draft, of course. Love the way they throw when rolling out
 
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Still happens with white WRs too. Nothing to see here.
True, but there are more slow white WRs than fast ones, but plenty of black QBs that are just as good as their white counterparts in every facet of the position. There's not too many fast white wrs.
But there you go doing the exact same thing. You're telling me that Wes Welker, Ed MaCaffrey and Eric Decker all fit the same mold. Get over yourself. Racism isn't about perception like the media and people like you want it to be. It's about opportunity. Last I checked, everybody has the same opportunity to succede in the NFL or anywhere for that matter. MLK would be offended that you are offended by this.
I know thread like this make some people feel uncomfortable, I understand that, but the fact remains what I'm saying is true. I just thought we should be further past this by now, that is all.
There's a couple of reasons why it's easier to compare black QB's to black QB's:- They look the same. That's not racism it's just easy.- Many of the recent athletic QB's have been black (Vick, Vince Young, McNair, Cunningham, and Kordell Stewart) while it's been longer than we've had athletic white QB's. At least if I mention Elway, Young, and Tarkenton people know who they are but if I compare someone to Bobby Douglass there probably just going to say 'Who?'
 
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Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Their is a very interesting topic of discussion called 'shadow projecting'.Shadow projecting is when an individual or group of people project their own dark shadowns onto others.Classic examples are Nazi Germany projecting evils that they had within their own phyche upon whom they considered outside groups of people, Gypsies, Jews, Slavs, any who they felt were, physically, mentally or socially, inferior.The thing that is mentioned often but many do not grasp is that some of the top Nazi had Jewish blood and even insantity in their bloodlines that the sin of having mixed blood with undesireables may have been what motivated the greatest madmen in history including Hitler and his number two in charge Rienhard Heydrich who would have taken over if Hitler was killed. Heydrich was a quarter Jewish and he is the one who came up with the plan for the final solution. Hitler was part Jewish and had a historyy of insantity in his family and felt soo threatened by his Jewish past that he annialated his home town and put his mentally affected sister into hiding and eventually had her put to death. Nazi Germany is at the extreme end of shadow projection. In lessor ways we all do the same thing on smaller levels individually and as groups. That person looks shady, or those darn___ plug in any group you think are infereor to the group that you identify with.Their was a study done a few years ago with sports fanatics and the conclusions were interesting. They found that the most ardent sports fanatics suffered from low self esteeem and when they shouted and yelled and cursed other sports teams or the groups that followed those other teams that by cursing and shouting at others that the sports fanatics who suffered from low self esteem thought by bullying others into submission that it somehow would boost their low self esteem.Interesting eh? Bringing this back to limiting this to a loaded race quuestion. It could be that we all project our own individual evils onto others in order to make us feel better. Or maybe their really are evil guys out there just itching to get us with with racist comparisons. Probably not.
Very interesting.
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Give me a break. You hear Luck compared to Manning all the time. RG3 is being compared to Steve Young. Why the mock outrage?
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Give me a break. You hear Luck compared to Manning all the time. RG3 is being compared to Steve Young. Why the mock outrage?
I didn't say there aren't any comparisons, just not as much as there are with black qbs. As for the RG3 to Young, sorry, but I haven't heard that one until now.
 
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I don't think this is as big a deal as you think it is.
Cam vs Vick and now RG3 vs Cam vs Vick. Just to name a few.
Who on earth could you compare Cam to athletically? Elway perhaps? Even then Cam has a size and speed that we haven't seen before.RG3 is in a class of his own as well. I compare him to Young, but he's got athleticism closer to Vick.
Fran Tarkenton was very athletic in his prime and Rodger Staubach was too early in his career. Bobby Douglas was very athletic and could run like crazy, but he was a pathetic passing QB.
Tarkenton was 6-0, 190 and Staubach was 6-3, 197. As a freak of nature they don't come close to Cam. Douglass is closer physically but I can't imagine people would be happy with that comparison. I think Elway and Cunningham are the closest we've had to him.
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Their is a very interesting topic of discussion called 'shadow projecting'.Shadow projecting is when an individual or group of people project their own dark shadowns onto others.Classic examples are Nazi Germany projecting evils that they had within their own phyche upon whom they considered outside groups of people, Gypsies, Jews, Slavs, any who they felt were, physically, mentally or socially, inferior.The thing that is mentioned often but many do not grasp is that some of the top Nazi had Jewish blood and even insantity in their bloodlines that the sin of having mixed blood with undesireables may have been what motivated the greatest madmen in history including Hitler and his number two in charge Rienhard Heydrich who would have taken over if Hitler was killed. Heydrich was a quarter Jewish and he is the one who came up with the plan for the final solution. Hitler was part Jewish and had a historyy of insantity in his family and felt soo threatened by his Jewish past that he annialated his home town and put his mentally affected sister into hiding and eventually had her put to death. Nazi Germany is at the extreme end of shadow projection. In lessor ways we all do the same thing on smaller levels individually and as groups. That person looks shady, or those darn___ plug in any group you think are infereor to the group that you identify with.Their was a study done a few years ago with sports fanatics and the conclusions were interesting. They found that the most ardent sports fanatics suffered from low self esteeem and when they shouted and yelled and cursed other sports teams or the groups that followed those other teams that by cursing and shouting at others that the sports fanatics who suffered from low self esteem thought by bullying others into submission that it somehow would boost their low self esteem.Interesting eh? Bringing this back to limiting this to a loaded race quuestion. It could be that we all project our own individual evils onto others in order to make us feel better. Or maybe their really are evil guys out there just itching to get us with with racist comparisons. Probably not.
Wow thanks for that post, very interesting.
 
I don't think this is as big a deal as you think it is.
Cam vs Vick and now RG3 vs Cam vs Vick. Just to name a few.
Who on earth could you compare Cam to athletically? Elway perhaps? Even then Cam has a size and speed that we haven't seen before.RG3 is in a class of his own as well. I compare him to Young, but he's got athleticism closer to Vick.
Fran Tarkenton was very athletic in his prime and Rodger Staubach was too early in his career. Bobby Douglas was very athletic and could run like crazy, but he was a pathetic passing QB.
Tarkenton was 6-0, 190 and Staubach was 6-3, 197. As a freak of nature they don't come close to Cam. Douglass is closer physically but I can't imagine people would be happy with that comparison. I think Elway and Cunningham are the closest we've had to him.
I can agree with that.
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Give me a break. You hear Luck compared to Manning all the time. RG3 is being compared to Steve Young. Why the mock outrage?
I didn't say there aren't any comparisons, just not as much as there are with black qbs. As for the RG3 to Young, sorry, but I haven't heard that one until now.
Why don't you pick up the slack and compare Newton and RGIII to some white QBs and be done with this ridiculousness.
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Give me a break. You hear Luck compared to Manning all the time. RG3 is being compared to Steve Young. Why the mock outrage?
I didn't say there aren't any comparisons, just not as much as there are with black qbs. As for the RG3 to Young, sorry, but I haven't heard that one until now.
Why don't you pick up the slack and compare Newton and RGIII to some white QBs and be done with this ridiculousness.
I did, I compared Bert Jones to Cam Newton, but IMO Jones was the better passer. Edited to remove the stereotyping reference out of the post to not cloud the purpose of the post.
 
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Comparing one black player to another black player doesn't = racism, imo.

And I just heard Plummer and Griffin talked about in the same conversation this morning.

 
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This isn't a question of racism by the general meaning that people will read from it... which implies a sense of judging inferior based on race. Using the word even when applicable is likely to put up people's backs. Using it when it isn't the case is like shooting yourself in the foot if you want good discussion.

Do people often find a comparison of the same race? Yes. Does it make sense they do? Given how our minds work in making a comparison, yes it makes sense it happens sometimes, even if it doesn't make for the best comparison. We look for something in our memory that reminds us of what we're seeing. Since race is something we notice, along with body style, speed, etc, it is going to be something that is going to play a role in many people's comparisons unless one is conscious to not do so.

Just think about how many comparisons there were between Laurence Maroney and Steven Jackson, and then consider if as many would have been made if one of them never had dreadlocks. But when it comes down to appearance, seeing those dreads flying behind them is a very significant visual factor and so when we go looking for a comparison their names often pop up together.

So it makes sense it happens based on how our brains are wired. Is it wrong, racism, for you to think white receivers are slower in general? Not unless you only think so because you believe it's one sign of a race being wholly inferior to another. If you've come to that conclusion because you know West African physiques tend more than European ancestries towards mesomorphic body types that are best suited for the speed and power of offensive skill positions (or if you intuitively know this is the case even if you never thought of it in such explicit terms), then there's nothing racist about it. Your belief in a general trend is based in a biological trend that is factual. And similarly you should probably expect that a black QB on average would be a better scrambler than a white QB, though like with anything else, specific individuals don't always follow the general trend and you would be wrong to ascribe that to every individual.

Are we at a point where we should expect there to be no racially biased thought? Hell no. We're not even close to a society yet where actual racism isn't rampant, let alone something more minor like the kind of comparison bias you're talking about here. The major change in our society regarding racism is that we no longer openly accept displays of racism. But it's still very much there, it's just not as openly visible.

The positive thing is now that it is not openly accepted, there should be fewer people embracing racism each generation. But we're nowhere near a color blind society. Just because we hold public figures accountable for displays of racism doesn't mean it isn't there. The number of people with racist views is still staggering. There are racists everywhere, but I came to realize how widespread it is when I moved to Texas, where people seem more likely to display their racism, though mainly in private. I've heard some things said, and by surprising people, where I was staggered that they thought that was something they could say in front of me without it negatively impacting my view of them.

And that's just the people I've heard speak about it openly. There are a lot of closet racists who make comments about racial topics - like the double standard in using the N word, or the Rooney Rule - and think they are clever in couching their racist-motivated comments in a way that someone won't call them on it openly. And likely no one will call them on it because they aren't blatant enough for a confrontation. Yet it's still not hard to discern after a few conversations on such topics if their views on them stem from racist roots.

 
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Comparing one black player to another black player doesn't = racism, imo.
Really? It is when you hardly ever hear do the comparisons to white QBs and yes, I still believe that is rarely done.
please explain how it is 'racist.'btw, as a fan of the Broncos I saw Tebow compared to Vick and Newton plenty. I've also seen Vick compared to Steve young. I disagree that 1.) it's racist to begin with and 2.) that people are only comparing black QBs to other black QBs.
 
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This isn't a question of racism by the general meaning that people will read from it... which implies a sense of judging inferior based on race. Using the word even when applicable is likely to put up people's backs. Using it when it isn't the case is like shooting yourself in the foot if you want good discussion.Do people often find a comparison of the same race? Yes. Does it make sense they do? Given how our minds work in making a comparison, yes it makes sense it happens sometimes, even if it doesn't make for the best comparison. We look for something in our memory that reminds us of what we're seeing. Since race is something we notice, along with body style, speed, etc, it is going to be something that is going to play a role in many people's comparisons unless one is conscious to not do so.Just think about how many comparisons there were between Laurence Maroney and Steven Jackson, and then consider if as many would have been made if one of them never had dreadlocks. But when it comes down to appearance, seeing those dreads flying behind them is a very significant visual factor and so when we go looking for a comparison their names often pop up together.So it makes sense it happens based on how our brains are wired. Is it wrong, racism, for you to think white receivers are slower in general? Not unless you only think so because you believe it's one sign of a race being wholly inferior to another. If you've come to that conclusion because you know West African physiques tend more than European ancestries towards mesomorphic body types that are best suited for the speed and power of offensive skill positions (or if you intuitively know this is the case even if you never thought of it in such explicit terms), then there's nothing racist about it. Your belief in a general trend is based in a biological trend that is factual. And similarly you should probably expect that a black QB on average would be a better scrambler than a white QB, though like with anything else, specific individuals don't always follow the general trend and you would be wrong to ascribe that to every individual.Are we at a point where we should expect there to be no racially biased thought? Hell no. We're not even close to a society yet where actual racism isn't rampant, let alone something more minor like the kind of comparison bias you're talking about here. The major change in our society regarding racism is that we no longer openly accept displays of racism. But it's still very much there, it's just not as openly visible. The positive thing is now that it is not openly accepted, there should be fewer people embracing racism each generation. But we're nowhere near a color blind society. Just because we hold public figures accountable for displays of racism doesn't mean it isn't there. The number of people with racist views is still staggering. There are racists everywhere, but I came to realize how widespread it is when I moved to Texas, where people seem more likely to display their racism, though mainly in private. I've heard some things said, and by surprising people, where I was staggered that they thought that was something they could say in front of me without it negatively impacting my view of them. And that's just the people I've heard speak about it openly. There are a lot of closet racists who make comments about racial topics - like the double standard in using the N word, or the Rooney Rule - and think they are clever in couching their racist-motivated comments in a way that someone won't call them on it openly. And likely no one will call them on it because they aren't blatant enough for a confrontation. Yet it's still not hard to discern after a few conversations on such topics if their views on them stem from racist roots.
That was one of the best posts I've ever read on this board.
 
I disagree that 1.) it's racist to begin with and 2.) that people are only comparing black QBs to other black QBs.
If I'm wrong about that assessment, I stand corrected. I guess I just don't see it and others do.Edited to bold the part I was posting to. Also, to say that maybe Racism is too strong of a word to use. Greg Russell made me see that.

 
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The word you're looking for is "stereotype" which is much different than "racism".
This is exactly what should have been said from the get go. By no means it is racism to compare a black athlete to another black athlete, there is NO HATE involved in that, which i equate to racism.I heard alot of people compare Cam to Ben before he was drafted.
 
Why do people still compare black athletic qbs to each other. You hardly ever hear white qbs compared to each other. I thought we would have moved past this by now.
Edited to add: Greg Russell made me realize that maybe racism is the wrong word to use in this context.
I don't think it's racism. It's just lazy thinking.
 
Still happens with white WRs too. Nothing to see here.
True, but there are more slow white WRs than fast ones, but plenty of black QBs that are just as good as their white counterparts in every facet of the position. There's not too many fast white wrs.
But there you go doing the exact same thing. You're telling me that Wes Welker, Ed MaCaffrey and Eric Decker all fit the same mold. Get over yourself. Racism isn't about perception like the media and people like you want it to be. It's about opportunity. Last I checked, everybody has the same opportunity to succede in the NFL or anywhere for that matter. MLK would be offended that you are offended by this.
I know thread like this make some people feel uncomfortable, I understand that, but the fact remains what I'm saying is true. I just thought we should be further past this by now, that is all.
:lmao: I saw someone compare RGIII to Steve Young. I saw someone compare Russell Wilson to Drew Brees.
 
Why is racism still everywhere? Because of ignorance.That being said, thats not whats going on here and if it is its taking place in elementary school when their coaches tell them they cant be anything but athletic qbs.

:lmao: I saw someone compare RGIII to Steve Young. I saw someone compare Russell Wilson to Drew Brees.
I hear someone compare tebow to steve young once a week on espn or fox sports radio. #stupid
 
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