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Guy had 100+ rec and 96 Return yrds
great game
and all i see is Eddie Royal
great game
and all i see is Eddie Royal
Royal was in a nationally televised game. Royal was going against DeAngelo Hall. DeSean went against the Rams.Guy had 100+ rec and 96 Return yrdsgreat game and all i see is Eddie Royal
And Denver isn't? Remember they had a 100 catch guy there last year.I think Jackson is a much better prospect for this season. He is on an offense that has proven it can be productive.
And while that's true, Royal is playing second fiddle to him right now. Not that I don't <3 Royal, I just like DeJax a little bit better.And Denver isn't? Remember they had a 100 catch guy there last year.I think Jackson is a much better prospect for this season. He is on an offense that has proven it can be productive.
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Considering the buzz out of Philly all preseason and now, I wouldn't be so sure of that. He made some outstanding grabs -- easily better than things I've seen from either Curtis or Brown.I think most of us assume that when Curtis and Brown get healthy that they will resume starting positions and that Jackson's numbers will go down for at least this season. Also, people may worry about McNabb's injury history and what will happen if he gets hurt. Myself, I am still not sold on a guy that small being consistently productive. Steve Smith is the exception that proves the rule.
Jackson is also filling in for injured starters. While he may very well have cemented himself as one of those starters he is also playing behind other guys. Although I think we are splitting hairs here. The obvious elite of this rookie WR class are Royal and Desean. Royal just was on a bigger stage and had more pub....And while that's true, Royal is playing second fiddle to him right now. Not that I don't <3 Royal, I just like DeJax a little bit better.And Denver isn't? Remember they had a 100 catch guy there last year.I think Jackson is a much better prospect for this season. He is on an offense that has proven it can be productive.
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Come on 100+ rec 97 return in one game thats greati fully agree with the view that Royal is going to drop off dramatically with Marshall's return. Cutler would have been throwing most of those passes his way Monday night. Jackson, however, seems to have more upside because he doesn't have that same stud in the wings he is standing in for. I think he's the guy to have right now, and were I a betting man, i'd put money on Royal not equaling his production against the raiders again all year. He's already peaked.
Pretty good point.Royal is a #2 WR, at best. Which looks to be the case. Jackson could be #1 targetted WR on the Eagles. Westbrook will take some targets. But the Eagles pass A LOT. They have enough targets for any play maker on that team. And right now it's Westbrook, Jackson/Curtis. Brown is garbage. Based on the amount Philly passes the ball, no true #1 WR ahead of him, I'd give the edge to Jackson. But Denver has shown they love to pass to the WRs, and both Royal and Marshall could easily get 80+ catches in a season. People are a little down on Jackson because he's small. And I read somewhere based on his BMI it's pretty much impossible for him to be a WR in the NFL, let alone catch a pass without it shattering his hands like glass. I was shocked he was able to wear and helmet and still lift his head up to see the ball coming in. With that staggeringly poor BMI, he's pretty much a medical miracle.i fully agree with the view that Royal is going to drop off dramatically with Marshall's return. Cutler would have been throwing most of those passes his way Monday night. Jackson, however, seems to have more upside because he doesn't have that same stud in the wings he is standing in for. I think he's the guy to have right now, and were I a betting man, i'd put money on Royal not equaling his production against the raiders again all year. He's already peaked.
See, that data tells me that if McNabb has an elite WR he can make him one of the two best WRs in fantasy football. Hell, he made KEVIN CURTIS #16. To your other bolded point, thus far Desean looks more like a Pro Bowl talent than not.I really think if he is healthy he puts up WR1 numbers; my issue is, I have doubts he can handle a 16-game season. But I would wager on a PPG basis Desean finishes in the Top 12.Statcruncher said:According to my league's scoring (No PPR) the top 2 Eagle REC's (not including RB's) rank each year in fantasy points per game played have been:
2007
16 Kevin Curtis
57 Reggie Brown
2006
23 Donte' Stallworth
27 Reggie Brown
2005
1 Terrell Owens
67 Reggie Brown
2004
2 Terrell Owens
79 Todd Pinkston
2003
100 James Thrash
101 Todd Pinkston
In my book the Eagle WR positions are pretty much a wasteland other than some guy named Owens who was there for a couple of years. Add in the slightly higher injury potential to McNabb and Westbrook and there is really nothing enticing about anyone catching the ball. To say Philly WR's don't have value isn't true. I just don't think their offensive scheme is conducive to great WR numbers unless there is a Pro Bowl caliber WR on the roster. Thus their value to me drops them low enough that they are always gone before I would pick one. Jackson may be a special talent that changes all that but I'm not gambling on a rookie who had an injury start and put up great numbers against a crummy D.
True... Why go hear when you can go they're?, I should really go their.right hearWhere?
one week wonder hype is rampant in here... Guy plays in an offense with a couple of decent WR's coming back from injury this week or next.Guy plays in an offense with other good hands people like Baskett, Lewis, LJ, Westbrook , Curtis, Brown.Guy's chances of catching 40+ balls in 2008, slim to none.too many mouths to feed in Philly,not enough footballs to go around.Guy had 100+ rec and 96 Return yrdsgreat game and all i see is Eddie Royal
So barring an injury to Jackson. You think it's slim to none that he catches 34 more passes in 15 games.. Wow.. can I take that bet or what.. you have to be kidding right..one week wonder hype is rampant in here... Guy plays in an offense with a couple of decent WR's coming back from injury this week or next.Guy plays in an offense with other good hands people like Baskett, Lewis, LJ, Westbrook , Curtis, Brown.Guy's chances of catching 40+ balls in 2008, slim to none.too many mouths to feed in Philly,not enough footballs to go around.Guy had 100+ rec and 96 Return yrdsgreat game and all i see is Eddie Royal
If you are playing fantasy football based on last year, you are absolutely correct. If you are playing on this years prospects, then you need to realize or accept how fantastic Cutler and the Denver offense looks. Both Royal and Jackson should be productive, but last year is almost meaningless.I think Jackson is a much better prospect for this season. He is on an offense that has proven it can be productive.
Hall is disgustingly overrated, but he's not disgustingly bad. NFL GMs aren't dummies. They might be wrong a lot, but an NFL GM knows the difference between an acceptable starter and a disgusting liability, and they don't throw big-time money at disgustingly bad players. Sometimes they throw superstar money at average starters, or average starter money at total liabilities... but if the market in the NFL seems to think Hall is a quality corner, then odds are he's a quality corner. He'll never challenge for the best CB in the league title, but he's almost certainly among the top 32 at his position.And Royal made him look BAD. Really, really bad.I shake my head when I read you guys repeatedly saying Hall is "a quality cb". He is digustingly bad.
The Raiders were said to be the only team interested and we all know how sad of a franchise the Raiders have become. Their front office decisions are the guidline for ineptitude. He WAS good a few years ago, but he obviously became in love with himself a few years back. I have watched him over 25 times in the past couple seasons and he is well below average. I'm no scout but I'd like to think I've watched enough football that when I see a player enough I get a good idea about him.Hall is disgustingly overrated, but he's not disgustingly bad. NFL GMs aren't dummies. They might be wrong a lot, but an NFL GM knows the difference between an acceptable starter and a disgusting liability, and they don't throw big-time money at disgustingly bad players. Sometimes they throw superstar money at average starters, or average starter money at total liabilities... but if the market in the NFL seems to think Hall is a quality corner, then odds are he's a quality corner. He'll never challenge for the best CB in the league title, but he's almost certainly among the top 32 at his position.And Royal made him look BAD. Really, really bad.I shake my head when I read you guys repeatedly saying Hall is "a quality cb". He is digustingly bad.
Week one receptions. Jackson 6 G. Lewis 5 H. Baskett 2 J. Avant 3 L. Smith 5 B. Celek 2 T. Hunt 1 B. Westbrook 2I didn't post Denver because it is moot without Marshall, but no one but Royal caught more than 2.The number one reason to be excited about DeSean over Royal is that he only has Reggie Brown and Kevin Curtis to steal balls.
It's possible they both end up being very good.awesomeness said:Royal is 'The Chosen One' by the premature ejacs who cant help themselves from jumping the gun. We'll see how Royal plays when hes jammed at the line this week so that should be something to look for.The way DeSean was able to catch balls in traffic was VERY exciting. He's gonna be goood.
2nd WR ever to go back to back 100 yard games, last one was 1940. While djax should have had a td, and Royal shouldn't have had a td, both have been pretty damn good.DeSean Jackson is going to be something special in this league. However, the Rams are - and especially their defense is - a joke at times. We'll see what Jackson does when he's not up against Haslett.
I'm pretty sure a WR has had back-to-back 100 yard games at least once since 1940.teamroc said:2nd WR ever to go back to back 100 yard games, last one was 1940. While djax should have had a td, and Royal shouldn't have had a td, both have been pretty damn good.DeSean Jackson is going to be something special in this league. However, the Rams are - and especially their defense is - a joke at times. We'll see what Jackson does when he's not up against Haslett.
True, but to clarify for everyone I think it was first rookie WR to gain 100 yards in his first two games since 1940, right?I'm pretty sure a WR has had back-to-back 100 yard games at least once since 1940.teamroc said:2nd WR ever to go back to back 100 yard games, last one was 1940. While djax should have had a td, and Royal shouldn't have had a td, both have been pretty damn good.DeSean Jackson is going to be something special in this league. However, the Rams are - and especially their defense is - a joke at times. We'll see what Jackson does when he's not up against Haslett.