I will preface this by saying that this is a team management question; but it is pertinent to the thread. I am carrying three qbs. I have Romo, Wilson, and Rivers. I hate to just give up Romo, but should I? Matthews is sitting on our waiver wire as we speak. I could drop Moreno, but as a Miller owner I am hesitant to do that. So what should I do here?
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Why no Ryan Mathews love...? (1 Viewer)
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UMDterps26
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
see i dont understand this. Mathews went before moreno in every league and now woodhead is done INCREASING his value. Plus they both have similar time frames on their injuries. Why would someone stash Moreno over Mathews. What is the rationale here?
UMDterps26
Footballguy
yea, Mathews > Moreno rest of season, although I believe both are stashable in standard leagues
shadyridr
Footballguy
without a doubt, neither should be on waivers.
shadyridr
Footballguy
haha made that exact trade three days ago. Luckily for me the mathews owner was 0-3 and literally had no rbs to start this week.
UMDterps26
Footballguy
That is tough, a part of me thinks Romo is more valuable than Rivers rest of season because the Chargers can hold their own on defense - and Romo will need to put up points to be successful ... probably drop Romo for him ... if its not a 2 QB league you shouldnt roster 3 QB's, QB's arent all that valuable this year
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Are you sure about the time frames?
Moreno is making noises he will be back week 6. What's the earliest Mathews could come back?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
3 more weeks? We know he's coming back week 7? Or week 8?shadyridr said:
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shadyridr
Footballguy
sprained mcl is usually 3-4 weeks.
grateful zed
Footballguy
sitting oh him and gordon, bench is thin right now, just hoping to make the playoofs.
thekidd2009
Footballguy
I'm sitting on those two as well and it's going to be a challenge with only 4 spots open. If I get an injury Gordon is heading to the waivers bc no one will offer anything half decent for him.
goodoldalky
Footballguy
Doesn't matter much if you play in a league with Mathews and Rivers on the waiver wire. You should be in contention no matter what against the other 2 teams in the league.
Polish Hammer
made of glass
I just acquired him in a PPR for Chris Johnson. Feeling pretty good about that.
TartanLion
Footballguy
So....
Matthews initial diagnosis was 4-5 weeks. As of this weekend, 3 weeks will have passed by.
On one of the FFG podcasts Dr Gene said something along the lines of 'when Matthews comes back in a week or two'. However, in one of Bryant's latest emails it says 'There's no timetable for Matthews return, but he could back in around a month'.
This seems like a fairly large gap of 2-3 weeks in terms of estimated return time. Anybody any clearer as to his current situation ?
Matthews initial diagnosis was 4-5 weeks. As of this weekend, 3 weeks will have passed by.
On one of the FFG podcasts Dr Gene said something along the lines of 'when Matthews comes back in a week or two'. However, in one of Bryant's latest emails it says 'There's no timetable for Matthews return, but he could back in around a month'.
This seems like a fairly large gap of 2-3 weeks in terms of estimated return time. Anybody any clearer as to his current situation ?
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TartanLion
Footballguy
Totally understand, I drafted upside down this year and ended up with a pool of Spiller, Matthews ( injured ) and Rice ( banned ) as my highest drafted RB's. I was kind of hopeful Matthews might be back for OAK next week because of the podcast, now I have literally no idea if he'll be back by week 9.
mquinnjr
Footballguy
Good bump, was wondering the same reading Joe's email.
Can't really dig up any recent articles on this via Google regarding his injury status. He's becoming droppable if it's now indefinite as per Joe's email. Link in the daily email redirected to his FBG's page.
This is newsworthy enough for an update.
ETA: Figure Chargers have to had considered PUP or short term IR if it was as serious as Joe insinuated, or they're doing a horrible job monitoring Mathews' injury on the Chargers roster management end.
Can't really dig up any recent articles on this via Google regarding his injury status. He's becoming droppable if it's now indefinite as per Joe's email. Link in the daily email redirected to his FBG's page.
This is newsworthy enough for an update.
ETA: Figure Chargers have to had considered PUP or short term IR if it was as serious as Joe insinuated, or they're doing a horrible job monitoring Mathews' injury on the Chargers roster management end.
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mquinnjr
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LawFitz
Footballguy
The more troubling part of that article for me was the point about the OL continuity late last year, and the lack thereof this year. DBrown has looked awful. I know Mathews is a better RB, but I think he too, would be underperforming right now with the lack of effecting blocking.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Mathews is not eligible for the PUP list because he was active during preseason. And he's not eligible for the short-term IR because the Chargers already used that spot for Melvin Ingram.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Same here man, couldn't justify keeping him when I had other RB and QB troubles. The reason I posted was that the podcast caused me to re pick him up this week, now I'm questioning whether I should have bothered after Bryants email
flapgreen
Footballguy
Tough decision to make when you take a guy that early but you have to move on at some point. I think it ended up being McKinnon I put in his place.
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Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
My team is a playoff lock but weak at rb. Didn't draft any until round 7 and that was ray rice. So I'm holding Matthews until playoffs. Only have to play 1 rb. I can get by with miller and Vereen until then.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
I'd love to nab him but I'd have to drop Crowell or Asiata to get him and stash him.
I don't know.
I picked him up off waivers in one league...a *FREE* random Yahoo public league (10 teams, only 2 RB, no flex, free, in other words, meaningless and barely even pay attention to it). Short of that situation I don't know how he could possibly be available. I traded Ben Tate/Justin Forsett for him in my primary league a couple weeks ago
In my league, the Jamaal Charles owner also has Mathews. I'm considering offering Kniles Davis for him. Is that fair value?
I do like that this thread has hit on his upside and downside. If his injury lingers, he could be less effective when he gets back and not be worth owning for the season. But with Brown sucking and Woodhead gone...
I do like that this thread has hit on his upside and downside. If his injury lingers, he could be less effective when he gets back and not be worth owning for the season. But with Brown sucking and Woodhead gone...
the spanker
Footballguy
Alonzo Mosely
Footballguy
Peak
Footballguy
Very true. My league's bench is only three spots deep. One of mine is filled with Gordon, the other two are Zak Stacy and DeAndre Hopkins. Both Mathews and Ingram are on the WW in our league as people are scrambling for RBs to fill bye weeks. Would Ingram or Mathews be a step up over Stacy? Schedule-wise, they are about the same. I would think Ingram has a step above both due to the talent on the team to take the focus away from the running game. SD's shaky OL has me concerned for him the rest of the way. Stacy just has some tough matchups coming with a young offense. Not sure what will happen there.Alonzo Mosely said:
TartanLion
Footballguy
No idea man. I'm currently carrying Matthews AND Gordon on my bench ( six bench spots ), and its limiting me doing more mining in areas I'm weak in ( RB and QB ).
Its kind of looking like we won't get any further solid update until early next week
TartanLion
Footballguy
Unfortunately, that's the same article that was already posted
Insein
Footballguy
shadyridr
Footballguy
what risk? I traded sjax for him. People are picking him up from the waiver wire.
I'm trying to use him as a sweetener in a league...they don't seem to be biting though.
Offering Graham + Mathews for LeVeon (he also has Charles and only TE is Witten) to one guy and for Lynch to another. Don't think it will work, in which case Mathews would seem to not really have much value. :(
Offering Graham + Mathews for LeVeon (he also has Charles and only TE is Witten) to one guy and for Lynch to another. Don't think it will work, in which case Mathews would seem to not really have much value. :(
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blake
Footballguy
That's exactly what I'm thinking. He has been out a couple of weeks, and instead of getting a clearer timetable on when he'll be back, it is getting more vague. I get even more hesitant when a brittle player with questionable toughness then says he wants to be 100% when he comes back. Personally, I wouldn't trade a guy like Steven Jackson for him right now.
I replaced Mathews With Mark Ingram (a guy whose arrival on the field is getting clearer instead of more hazy) in the offer.
the spanker
Footballguy
Hmmm I feel the opposite as I did trade Jackson who's in 4-man committee for a guy who will be a 3-down back upon his return.
Insein
Footballguy
You give up anything for him and he may not be back till November. Not really worth that in redraft.
I have teams where I would rather be on either side of that, depending on whether I needed a startable RB right or could afford to wait who-knows-how-long for a theoretically better guy.
Mostly I'd rather have Mathews, except one or two RB DESPERATE leagues (like, Bradshaw, Reaves, Mathews, Ingram)
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