Why no Sunday Nighter? (1 Viewer)

[ShadowMaster]

I realize they did not play a Sunday night game because they did not want to compete with the World Series of Bumball, but........ Why not?

Baseball is, after all, their competition. Are they afraid of them? I gotta think, No. Do they want their players to have the option to watch? They play Thanksgiving and Xmas so, again - this has to be a No as Baseball < Xmas/Thanksgiving.

As a football fan who can't stand the lame, unbalanced, farce of a sport they call baseball - I'd like to see what would rate higher.

It would send a message to the fools who run Baseball to try a salary cap and revenue sharing and turn their poor excuse for a fair competition around. I'm sure they are too stuborn <cough> I mean "traditional" to do so, but at least we would all get another national NFL game to watch.

 

[Velcro]

I would have rather watched football also, but it's a very naive argument. Even if NBC got 60% of the sports audience, thus "winning" as you put it, the advertising revenue would be lower. Further, Fox who also carries football games, would be the "loser", and they ain't paying the NFL peanuts.

I'm sure it was ultimately the networks that drove the decision around scheduling. I also disagree with your notion that the NFL and MLB are competing. There's not much overlap in the television scheduling. It's like saying college football competes with the NFL. Hockey probably represents more relevant competition than baseball.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

it's been that way for as long as I can remember.

just like the NFL doesn't schedule games on Fridays or Saturdays that would conflict with high school or college football, perhaps they have an agreeement with MLB not to schedule a game on Sunday night during the World Series.

notice that baseball didn't have a WS game tonight which would conflict with football either, so it appears they are helping each other out a bit.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Today is a travel day for MLB although they would not put two sporting events as big as MNF and the World Series on the same night. It all comes down to advertising dollars and ratings.

 

[Capella]

If the NFL showed a game last night, their average rating from NBC would be lower. And they wouldn't be able to demand as much money from advertisers. Really that simple.

 

[suchislife]

If the NFL showed a game last night, their average rating from NBC would be lower. And they wouldn't be able to demand as much money from advertisers. Really that simple.

Besides, as much as I love the NFL I'm a sports fan in general. World Series>&gt3rd NFL game of the day). And I'm not a fan of either Detroit or St. Louis. Of course, I'd still have my FFL scoreboards on the computer screen

 

[Assani Fisher]

Further, Fox who also carries football games, would be the "loser", and they ain't paying the NFL peanuts.

This is the issue here. Fox pays the NFL a lot of money...no need to piss them off.

 

[Raptors]

Every year a potential World Series game 7 conflicts with football. Go figure.

 

[Yah_Shoor_Yoobetchya]

I realize they did not play a Sunday night game because they did not want to compete with the World Series of Bumball, but........ Why not?

Baseball is, after all, their competition. Are they afraid of them? I gotta think, No. Do they want their players to have the option to watch? They play Thanksgiving and Xmas so, again - this has to be a No as Baseball < Xmas/Thanksgiving.

As a football fan who can't stand the lame, unbalanced, farce of a sport they call baseball - I'd like to see what would rate higher.

It would send a message to the fools who run Baseball to try a salary cap and revenue sharing and turn their poor excuse for a fair competition around. I'm sure they are too stuborn <cough> I mean "traditional" to do so, but at least we would all get another national NFL game to watch.

So I guess it's safe to assume you're not a Yankees fan.

 

[posty]

Every year a potential World Series game 7 conflicts with football. Go figure.

Yeah I never understood this...

 

[DCThunder]

Every year a potential World Series game 7 conflicts with football. Go figure.

Yeah I never understood this...

Because the statistical likelihood of a Game 7 is that they usually aren't played thus no conflict. Even a WVU guy should be able to figure that out.

 

[delusional]

Eh

1. I fell asleep during both world series games so far

2. i played baseball half my life

3. i watched last nights football game online

Football > Baseball.

Ratings would have been one sided it wouldnt be funny.

 

[V1LL]

As a football fan who can't stand the lame, unbalanced, farce of a sport they call baseball - I'd like to see what would rate higher.

It would send a message to the fools who run Baseball to try a salary cap and revenue sharing and turn their poor excuse for a fair competition around. I'm sure they are too stuborn <cough> I mean "traditional" to do so, but at least we would all get another national NFL game to watch.

Yeah, I'm sick and tired of the Yankees winning all the time!! They musta won, what the last 7 WS championships in a row with that salary. What? the Yankees HAVEN'T won a world series since 2000? 2006 Detroit Tigers St. Louis Cardinals

2005 Chicago White Sox Houston Astros

2004 Boston Redsox St. Louis Cardinals

2003 Florida Marlins New York Yankees

2002 Anaheim Angels San Francisco Giants

2001 Arizona Diamondbacks New York Yankees

You're right, the competion isn't fair I mean look we've had a different champion every year since 2000. It's getting pretty old, eh?

 

[Capella]

Eh 1. I fell asleep during both world series games so far2. i played baseball half my life3. i watched last nights football game onlineFootball > Baseball. Ratings would have been one sided it wouldnt be funny.

Sooo...because you would've watched football, the ratings would be in your favor. The World Series ratings over the past 5 years have far trumped the primetime broadcast TV football game. Look it up yourself.

 

[DCThunder]

Eh 1. I fell asleep during both world series games so far2. i played baseball half my life3. i watched last nights football game onlineFootball > Baseball. Ratings would have been one sided it wouldnt be funny.

Sooo...because you would've watched football, the ratings would be in your favor. The World Series ratings over the past 5 years have far trumped the primetime broadcast TV football game. Look it up yourself.

And that especially applies to those infrequent NFL-WS Gm 7s that have occurred. MOre people want to see who wins the WS than who wins some lame regular season NFL game.

 

[ShadowMaster]

Nothing to do with the Yankees - I am not a fan of the whole sport itself. The day I really quit on Baseball was when they fired their own commish and replaced him with an owner (temporary - remember?). Another example of how stupid the sport is run, as Selig can not be impartial between players and owners (becasue he is on one side).

I do think football and baseball compete. All major sports are in competition with each other. They fight for fan base and sports revenue spent by the average fan. The NFL wants you to get a season ticket to football, baseball wants your money spent on their game. They fight for companies to spend advertising dollars on their porduct, thus driving up the bid proces to the various networks.

Capella must be right. It must come down to cold hard $.

The NFL is run by some smart people, and I have to assume they know what they are doing.

I'd just like to see the proof of what I am almost sure of...... ANY NFL game would out-draw the championship of the MLB. I think the message sent to MLB in that scenario MIGHT lead to improvements as to how the sport is run. It has nothing to do with who wins, but how fair I FEEL the game is managed in it's current state. If I felt the game was more evenly balanced between the teams involved, I might pay attention to the sport again. Until that happens, I only go to baseball when we have a work team building night at the stadium and I get free food and beer.

anyway........maybe they will go 7 games and I'll get my wish

 

[Capella]

I'd just like to see the proof of what I am almost sure of...... ANY NFL game would out-draw the championship of the MLB.

I posted it in another thread ... over the past 5 years the average World Series rating was a 13.something -- the average MNF rating over that time was about a 10, I believe. I don't feel like looking the thread up again. I used MNF since it was the broadcast TV weekly primetime game.So just using those numbers, no, an NFL game would not out-draw the championship of MLB. And the NFL knows that.

 

[posty]

Ratings were pretty damn good...

18.165 million viewers...

FOX (households: 10.2/16, #1; adults 18-49: 5.4, #1) finally saw some good news from its "MLB Baseball" (households: 10.4/16, #3; adults 18-49: 5.4, #3) as Game 2 of the World Series powered the network past the usually dominant ABC (households: 8.4/13, #T2; adults 18-49: 5.2, #2).

Last year...

FOX's (households: 9.2/14, #2; adults 18-49: 4.8, #2) coverage of "MLB Baseball: World Series, Game 2" (households: 9.2/14, #6; adults 18-49: 4.8, #5) wasn't enough to surpass ABC's (households: 10.2/16, #1; adults 18-49: 6.8, #1) juggernaut lineup on Sunday.

 

[ohyeah]

baseball sucks! I rather watch the hunting channel then a baseball game.

 

[imanidiot777]

baseball sucks! I rather watch the hunting channel then a baseball game.

baseball is great and at least the playoffs deserve priority, especially the world series

 

[brettdj]

quote name='ohyeah' date='Oct 25 2006, 10:32 AM' post='5787552']

baseball sucks! I rather watch the hunting channel then a baseball game.

 

[ren hoek]

you guys suck. it's like you can't like one sport without hating the other, and as a fantasy baseball nerd I take exception to that.

they are both excellent sports in their own right.

 

[joffer]

as long as i can remember, the world series goes:

sat-sun......tues-wed-thurs.......sat-sun

they do that so they're guaranteed to not miss the ratings of the weekend, and so they don't conflict with MNF

 

[posty]

baseball sucks! I rather watch the hunting channel then a baseball game.

I see that you have nothing useful to add...

 

[BlueOnion]

I'd just like to see the proof of what I am almost sure of...... ANY NFL game would out-draw the championship of the MLB.

I posted it in another thread ... over the past 5 years the average World Series rating was a 13.something -- the average MNF rating over that time was about a 10, I believe. I don't feel like looking the thread up again. I used MNF since it was the broadcast TV weekly primetime game.So just using those numbers, no, an NFL game would not out-draw the championship of MLB. And the NFL knows that.

Did you only look at Monday Night Football Games in October, or did you include ratings for football games played in December between two losing teams?