Will D. Anderson kill Fitz status as an elite WR (1 Viewer)

[coltsnut]

I was worried about Fitz, even before Anderson become the apparent starting QB, and before he hurt his knee. But, he has been falling hard in drafts and I see him staring at me in round 2, along with guys like Marshall and Jennings.

How badly does D. Anderson hurt his value? Is he a steal in the 2nd round or do you avoid him like the plague?

 

[Banger]

I think he hurts him but not as much as Leinart would have. I'm avoiding Cards unless they are ridiculously cheap. I think that team is going to have a tough, tough year.

 

[thehornet]

not trying to be a thread polic, but there is literally dozens of threads on this topic.

 

[Phil McRevis]

Phil thinks Anderson helps his value a lot more than Leinart would have. At least Anderson has a big arm and isn't afraid to lock onto his wr and let Fitzgerald go fight for the ball. Leinart was content to dink and dunk at 6 yards a pop.

Phil's back on Fitzgerald's bandwagon.

 

[thehornet]

Phil thinks Anderson helps his value a lot more than Leinart would have. At least Anderson has a big arm and isn't afraid to lock onto his wr and let Fitzgerald go fight for the ball. Leinart was content to dink and dunk at 6 yards a pop.Phil's back on Fitzgerald's bandwagon.

phil is wrong. phil hasn't seen anderson play.

 

[HAM]

Absolutely not. Fitz is a freak of nature. He could still drop 1300 yards on you with Chris weinke running the offense

 

[latrops]

Anderson isn't really THE problem. People were just as concerned (if not moreso) with Leinart. Fitz gets a significant downgrade at qb either way. He also has a knee problem. He also lost a very good #2 wr, meaning defenses can focus more on him. The Cards figure to try to run more than they did with Warner/Fitz/Boldin. There are lots of reasons to downgrade Fitz and expect him to under-produce relative to his draft position...his qb is just one of them.

 

[Phil McRevis]

Phil thinks Anderson helps his value a lot more than Leinart would have. At least Anderson has a big arm and isn't afraid to lock onto his wr and let Fitzgerald go fight for the ball. Leinart was content to dink and dunk at 6 yards a pop.Phil's back on Fitzgerald's bandwagon.

phil is wrong. phil hasn't seen anderson play.

Phil didn't mean to imply Anderson is actually a good qb. Just better than Leinart. Leinart would dink and dunk and would kill Fitzgerald's value. Anderson will at least throw some bombs in the general vicinity of Fitzgerald and give him a chance to rack up some big yardage and snag some touchdowns. Phil just mean Fitzgerald's value was rightfully dropping a lot with Leinart. Phil thinks Fitzgerald's value should rise a bit with Anderson.

 

[coltsnut]

not trying to be a thread polic, but there is literally dozens of threads on this topic.

Truly sorry, I am still trying to figure out the search function...it doesn't always give me what I am looking for.

 

[Football Critic]

Playmakers make plays!

 

[coltsnut]

I don't think Fitz will come close to his previous year's numbers...but, is he value in the 2nd round....over guys like Marshall, Jennings, DJax, etc.?

Just having a hard time putting a value on him this year. He seems to always fall to me in the mid 2nd round and I've yet to draft him based on my apprehension of his upcoming prospects for 2010.

 

[VaTerp]

Anderson isn't really THE problem. People were just as concerned (if not moreso) with Leinart. Fitz gets a significant downgrade at qb either way. He also has a knee problem. He also lost a very good #2 wr, meaning defenses can focus more on him. The Cards figure to try to run more than they did with Warner/Fitz/Boldin. There are lots of reasons to downgrade Fitz and expect him to under-produce relative to his draft position...his qb is just one of them.

I agree with this and these are the reasons I had Fitz lower on my board than most all summer.But I do think that Anderson will actually be better for Fitz than Leinart because he will go down field more and take more chances. Also, see Braylon Edwards 2007 season with Anderson at QB and I don't think you can suggest that Anderson alone will kill Fitzs status as an elite WR.

 

[urbanhack]

was being discussed here

 

[coltsnut]

Anderson isn't really THE problem. People were just as concerned (if not moreso) with Leinart. Fitz gets a significant downgrade at qb either way. He also has a knee problem. He also lost a very good #2 wr, meaning defenses can focus more on him. The Cards figure to try to run more than they did with Warner/Fitz/Boldin. There are lots of reasons to downgrade Fitz and expect him to under-produce relative to his draft position...his qb is just one of them.

I agree with this and these are the reasons I had Fitz lower on my board than most all summer.But I do think that Anderson will actually be better for Fitz than Leinart because he will go down field more and take more chances. Also, see Braylon Edwards 2007 season with Anderson at QB and I don't think you can suggest that Anderson alone will kill Fitzs status as an elite WR.

I considered this, but I think that season may have been an anomaly for Edwards....as he was unable to produce anything close to that after. Fitz is way more talented than Edwards, obviously, so perhaps it was more of Edwards propensity for the drops that led to his falloff.

 

[Ghost Rider]

His knee is my biggest concern, not who his QB is.

 

[T.Rex]

Braylon Edwards down?

80-1289 -16 TD'S

153 targets

Anderson locks onto his favorite WR like no other. I expect him to get AJ type targets 170 targets.

Fitz plus 170 targets... I love Fitz this year.

Its all about opportunity while people focus on the QB, they should be looking more at how Anderson locks on to his favorite target.

whats the odds of Fitz not having a good year with all those targets.... Barring injury a LOCK for top 5

 

[thehornet]

Braylon Edwards down? 80-1289 -16 TD'S153 targetsAnderson locks onto his favorite WR like no other. I expect him to get AJ type targets 170 targets.Fitz plus 170 targets... I love Fitz this year. Its all about opportunity while people focus on the QB, they should be looking more at how Anderson locks on to his favorite target.whats the odds of Fitz not having a good year with all those targets.... Barring injury a LOCK for top 5

that was like 4 years ago in DA's best ever season. not gonna ever happen again.

 

[jon_mx]

Anderson won't be as bad as expected. Not a popular opinion, but I think he actually might have a decent year. Nothing huge, but over 3,000 yards and over 20 TD's. He will be an adequate QB #2.

 

[steelwind]

Yes.

 

[Wilbur Wood]

From roto today. Pure speculation, but the Batch fires are stoking:

Charlie Batch has played just 17 snaps this preseason, and has not taken a single training camp rep with the Steelers' second- or first-team offense.Batch still mustered 44 yards and a TD on four pass attempts in Sunday's preseason game. The Cardinals should keep close tabs on Batch's situation. Pittsburgh may opt to carry only Byron Leftwich and Dennis Dixon until Ben Roethlisberger returns, making Batch a free agent. The 35-year-old doesn't have a whole lot left, but is familiar with Arizona's coaching staff and would figure to be a more game-ready alternative to Derek Anderson

I don't really get this. I thought part of the reason Leinart stands to be cut was because the Cards didn't want to cut either Skelton or Hall, and speculation was that neither would make it to the practice squad.

Fitz' value with Anderson is much better than with Leinart. Also, bear in mins that the Cards will be playing from behind a lot more than with Warner. Fitz will feed at garbage time nicely. Very good value in the early 3 rd round